WOW! Secret Group Exposed, Harry Styles Louis Tomlinson Fanfic Outrage, & Nike Betsy Ross Pull

WOW! Secret Group Exposed, Harry Styles Louis Tomlinson Fanfic Outrage, & Nike Betsy Ross Pull

– ‘Sup you beautiful bastards, hope you’re having a fantastic Tuesday. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco Show also, a note, the beginning of
yesterday’s show was a joke. I learned, oh, a lot of people have issues with certain sounds. I feel like I could have claimed that I had aggressive
and consensual relations with your mother and it probably would
have been better received, at least comparatively. But with that said, hit the like button and let’s just jump into it. And the first thing we’re
gonna talk about today, is a story involving One Direction, and no, you were not just
randomly thrust back in time, there’s a story now surrounding
HBO’s new show Euphoria and members of the band One Direction. And the fact that this show is in the news isn’t surprising, it’s already made headlines for being kind of a
controversial show to some. I mean before it even aired, there were reports that
HBO had to edit a scene that contained too much nudity, which was kind of surprising, just because there is so much nudity there was, I think, a scene
that showed 30 penises or is it penii, whatever. And there are the sex scenes. You have high schoolers
doin’ a ton of drugs. This time around the controversy at hand surrounds a fan fiction
that one of the characters in the show, Kat, writes. And that fanfic is about
two members of the, definitely not former
they’re just on a hiatus, boy band One Direction. Specifically, Harry Styles
and Louis Tomlinson. And in it there is a scene depicting the two engaging in oral sex. And it’s not just written
and read out loud, the show actually makes
an animation of it, so you can actually see the act happening with cartoon versions of Harry and Louis. Both of them are referred to by name and the animations look like they did when they were in the band, with Zendaya’s character
Rue narrating the scene. And right now it appears
that they did this without, kind of, the permission
or blessing of either two. We saw Louis address the
scene in a tweet yesterday. Responding to a tweet that read, “just going to sit and hope that they” “for some reason approved it because” “surely they had to to get it aired.” Harry seems quite friendly with the people involved but you can just tell
Louis’ not gonna like it. To which Louis responded, “I can categorically say that,” “I was not contacted
nor did I approve it.” And it appears that
that upset a lot of fans that HBO did this without his consent. Because a little background
and context here, around One Direction, and
these two specifically, there are fans who really believe that, at one point, Harry and
Louis were in a relationship. They referred to them as Larry, and as teen stan culture goes, some of those fans wrote
fanfictions about the two. But of course, there
were a lot of other fans that thought that that was inappropriate. Because here you’re not dealing
with fictional characters, right, its not like
characters from Harry Potter, you have Harry and Louis who are real. They never actually said
that they were dating or they did anything and so it’s kinda just being thrust on these two very real people. So all of a sudden
seemingly out of nowhere, you have this show
tackling a sensitive issue to this passionate and loud group of fans. And so unsurprisingly, the
reactions online were strong, with both those who believed in Larry and those who didn’t
largely upset with HBO. People saying, “the amount of disrespect” “this has towards Harry and Louis” “has gotten me over the top disappointed.” “HBO better get sued for this.” People calling it “inappropriate
and uncalled for.” Saying, “the Euphoria thing
just shows how objectified” “Harry and Louis are by the media.” There was even a petition
started to get HBO to remove it. As of recording this video, the petition has just now
passed 15,000 signatures. However, of course, there were people who didn’t take issue with the scene. Some saying that there were
fans who wrote content like, this and that HBO should not be blamed for depicting something
that really happened. Saying, “its not Euphoria’s fault” “that people took Larry too far.” “That’s why it’s on there,” “because it was such a massive
part of teenagers’ lives” “and because it’s fucking gross,” “not because they’re trying to
profit off Harry and Louis.” “You fuckheads.” Also, Barbie Ferreira,
who plays the character that’s behind this fanfiction, she addressed the scene in an interview. Saying she lived through
the big One Direction hype and that she related to
the escapism behind it. Saying, “it’s such a
reality for so many people,” “and so many children
and teens that are fans” “that just have this escapist world.” “You completely give yourself
to this persona of a person” “you don’t even know, or five guys,” “and imagining the way they interact” “the escaping from your own reality.” “It’s really interesting to me” “because I was definitely a part of that,” “where I wanted to escape my own life” “and focus on others
because it was easier” “and felt more meaningful.” And as far as my own
personal reaction from this, and I understand the
Stan’s that’ll come in, and maybe mass dislike this video. Hello, sorry you’re angry,
thank you for the view. I personally don’t believe that
this is that big of a deal. The show appears to be trying to showcase a certain version of high schoolers. This is something that
people actually did, and it is a showcasing of a character that is a part of that. And personally, the way that I viewed it, it wasn’t this endorsing of this action, it was a showcasing of how,
just random and strange it was. Also, as far as the people calling for there to be a lawsuit. I’d be interested to see
what that road looks like. Just because, if there’s a
conversation about, you know, celebrities featured in an animation maybe without their permission. You know I just look
at all the celebrities that have been depicted doing, the weirdest stuff on South Park. And I say that as someone that, I don’t really have an issue with people that do weird shit that
involves like my name. There’s Philip DeFranco fanfic that also involves bimbofication, which, years ago we found
out existed together. You know, and as long as
those stories aren’t trying to be passed around as real
life, I kinda don’t care. But that, I also understand that’s just my personal feeling on it. So with the kinda story explained, my personal opinion on it, I then pass the question off to you. What are your thoughts on this? Do you think that this
was wrong of Euphoria? I mean, should they apologize
or delete the scene? Or no, nothing wrong
happened this was just a tool that was used to tell a story? Any and all thoughts, I’d
love to hear from you. The one truth of the matter, though, is that this show just
got so much free press. I feel like, for the creators of the show, that might have been the
expected and hoped for result. But from that, I wanna share
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trending on Twitter. So if you didn’t see it last week, it was announced that
Nike would be releasing a new shoe to celebrate Independence Day. It was set to drop on July 4th, and feature the Betsy Ross flag, which is the flag the United
States originally used during the late 1700s. And around this news you
had many criticizing Nike, saying that this flag symbolized a time before slavery was abolished and the design was insensitive. I mean one example, the Instagram post featuring the sneakers, it was flooded with comments like, “I wasn’t free yet.” Someone referred to the
sneakers as the Air Slaveries. And you get the point, but the reason we’re
talking about it today is because the Wall Street
Journal reported yesterday that Nike was pulling the sneaker. This after Colin Kaepernick, one of Nike’s biggest spokespeople, asked the company to reconsider. And according to the report,
Nike had already sent the shipments of the
shoe out to retailers, but once Kaepernick saw the design, he told the company he and others view the flag as offensive, which resulted in Nike
asking for their shoes back and nixing the launch altogether. With a spokesperson reportedly saying, “Nike has chosen not to release” “the Air Max 1 Quick
Strike Fourth of July” “as it featured the old
version of the American flag.” Following this we saw
people, like Senator Ted Cruz criticizing the decision in a tweet, saying “it’s a good thing Nike
only wants to sell sneakers” “to people who hate the American flag.” As well as other’s
defending the flag itself, with responses like, “if
we use Kaepernick’s logic,” “we need to shut down Mount Vernon,” “melt down The Liberty Bell,” “close Colonial Williamsburg,” “tear down Paul Revere’s house, right?” “Every symbol of colonial
America should disappear.” “Is that what Nike wants?” “My latest Nike Panders.” Another writing, “I support
Kaepernick’s kneeling campaign” “and activism against racism,” “but feel this is going too far.” “The Besty Ross flag was only tied” “to America’s era of slavery
due to when it was created, “not ideology.” “It was our original flag
and has great significance.” But of course, we also saw people supporting Nike’s decision. You had activist Adrienne
Lawrence tweeting, “the market for the Betsy Ross
shoe was those who wanted” “to implicitly support white supremacy” “and play dumb when questioned.” “Anyone know who Nike had signed” “to be the spokesperson for the shoe?” “I’d like to hear from that individual.” Others echoing Kaepernick’s view of the flag with tweets like. “The Betsy Ross flag has
been turned into a symbol” “of white nationalism
and domestic extremism.” “Conservatives will whine, but
Colin Kaepernick was right” “to speak out and Nike was
right to pull the products.” And if that white nationalism
claim sounds familiar, it’s because this isn’t
actually the first time that the Betsy Ross flag
has created controversy. Back in 2016, there was
a high school in Michigan that received backlash
after pictures of students waving a Trump flag along with
a Betsy Ross flag went viral. At that time, the school
district superintendent condemned the act, later
saying in a letter. “To wave a historical
version of our flag,” “that to some symbolizes
exclusion and hate,” “injects hostility and
confusion to an event” “where no one intended to do so.” And at that time, we
also saw the president of the NAACP Greater Grand Rapids branch responding to that situation saying, that the flag has quote, “been appropriated by the
so called Patriot Movement” “and other militia groups
who are responding” “to America’s increasing
diversity with opposition” “and racial supremacy.” But also at the same time, it’s worth noting that the Betsy Ross flag is also not a relic of the past. The Department of Veterans Affairs also has a Betsy Ross
flag within its’ seal. But, this part of the story,
some of the background, that is not where this ends. One of the biggest, and probably
most meaningful, reactions came from Arizona’s governor Doug Ducey. At around 2:00 a.m.
local time this morning, the governor tweeted out
that he was withdrawing from a financial incentive deal with Nike. A deal where the company
had reportedly agreed to build it’s next U.S.
manufacturing facility in the city of Goodyear, near Phoenix. As well as, create a least 505
full-time manufacturing jobs, provide an average salary
of around $48,000 a year, pay a minimum of 65%
of healthcare premiums, and invest at least
$184.5 million back into the city of Goodyear, as
well as, the facility. And in exchange, the
city had agreed to waive almost one million dollars
in plan reviews and fees, as well as, reimburse
Nike one million dollars for the jobs created. And the timing of all of this
is one of the craziest parts, because the city council had just met and signed off on the agreement yesterday. Right so it, seemingly, is something that got killed within 12 hours. And in his tweets, Governor Ducey says, “words cannot express my disappointment” “at this terrible decision.” “I am embarrassed for Nike”. “Nike is an iconic American
brand and American company.” “This country, our system of government” “and free enterprise have allowed them” “to prosper and flourish.” “Nike has made its decision,
and now we’re making ours,” “I’ve ordered the Arizona
Commerce Authority” “to withdraw all financial
incentive dollars” “under their discretion that
the State was providing” “for the company to locate here.” “Arizona’s economy is doing
just fine without Nike.” “We don’t need to suck up to companies” “that consciously denigrate
our nation’s history.” Ultimately, that’s where we are right now. And for me, I think, it’s
gonna be interesting to see what happens with Nike here, right? Because public outrage and
backlash isn’t something that the company is unfamiliar with. We look back to something somewhat recent, when Nike had their
Kaepernick ad campaign. There was massive outrage. You had people burning and
cutting up their Nikes. But since that ad was
released, reportedly, Nike has posted higher sales, boosted by strong demand
in both the U.S. and China. In the fourth quarter, sales
rose 4% to $10.18 billion. And adding, its share price
has climbed more than 15% so far this year. And so the question becomes
more bout the consumer base? Does this move put off the same people that were already angry at the company or does that number now
include more people, and in a meaningful way? So it brings up the question, like, the people outraged to the point where they would no
longer buy a Nike product? Does that now include a
much larger group of people than when they launched
the Kaepernick campaign? Or is it essentially the
same or a similar group and number of people, and thus
this is just free promotion? And you know, I think it’s
one of those situations. Time will tell. Also, kind of a final side note, if you were one of the people that were able to snag a pair
before the shoes got pulled, congratulations on you getting your hands on a crazy exclusive pair of shoes. The shoe was set to retail for $120, the lowest asking price that
I found on StockX, $2,495. Obviously the price is going to fluctuate. Man, this just became a killer
in the secondary market. Then let’s talk about some updates around the situation and crisis
at the U.S. Mexico border. Last week, as you might remember, we talked about a border
patrol facility in Clint, Texas where about 350 children were being held. A group of lawyers went to that facility and interviewed the children reporting that the children were hungry and living in unsafe and
unsanitary conditions. Many of them didn’t have access to showers, soap, or toothbrushes. Babies were left unattended or
cared for by other children. There are outbreaks of flu and lice. And some of those children, who under the law can only
be held in these facilities for no more than 72 hours, had been there for three weeks. And after the lawyers report came out, we saw a lot of outrage
especially from politicians. And just yesterday, more than a dozen lawmakers
toured border patrol facilities in Clint and El Paso. And the lawmakers reported
that most of the children had been moved from the Clint facility, but they were horrified by the conditions at the El Paso facility where they said several hundred
people were still detained. Now Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
was one of the people who toured the facilities and after going to the El
Paso center she said this, – There’s abuse in these
facilities, there’s abuse. This was them on their best behavior and they put them in a
room with no running water and these women were
being told by CBP officers to drink out of the toilet. – [Philip] She also
took to Twitter writing. “Now I’ve seen the inside
of these facilities.” “It’s not just the kids, it’s everyone.” “People drinking out of toilets,” “officers laughing in front
of members of Congress.” “I brought it up to their superiors.” They said quote “officers
are under stress” “and act out sometimes.” “No accountability.” Then adding, “after I
forced myself into a cell” “with women and began speaking to them,” “one of them described their treatment” “at the hands of officers
as psychological warfare,” “waking them at odd hours for no reason,” “calling them whores, etc.” “Tell me what about that is
due to a lack of funding.” Also after leaving El Paso, AOC told CNN “in the last facility I was
not safe from the officers.” And in a tweet she said that
“the Border Patrol officers” were being quote, ” physically and sexually
threatening towards her.” The Washington Examiner
later reported that AOC had screamed at Border Patrol. AOC’s communications office
then responded to the article in a statement calling it an
inaccurate depiction of events, and adding, the Congresswoman
spoke sternly to a CBP agent that tried to take a stealth selfie with the Congresswoman
in a mocking manner, despite the gravity of the situation. Other lawmakers who toured
the facilities also backed up what AOC said about detainees being told to drink from toilets, but you also had Border Patrol officials denying those accusations with Border Patrol Chief
of Operations telling CNN that “there are ample supplies” and adding, “a lot of our
stations look like Costco.” Also we saw other lawmakers
who went to the facilities sharing their experiences. Representative Madeline Dean tweeting, “just left the first CBP facility.” “The conditions are far worse” “than we ever could have imagined.” “15 women in their 50s 60s sleeping” “in a small concrete
cell, no running water.” “Weeks without showers.” “All of them separated
from their families.” “This is a human rights crisis.” Representative Joe
Kennedy telling reporters, “it feels like a jail and
they’re treating them like” “they’re in jail.” With Kennedy also tweeting about the Border Patrol agents writing, “CBP was very resistant to
Congressional oversight.” “They tried to restrict what
we saw, take our phones,” “block photos and video.” “Atmosphere was contentious
and uncooperative.” Which on that note, despite the fact that their cell phones were taken away, Representative Joaquin
Castro was actually able to sneak in a device. And he later tweeted
out a video that he took of several women detained
in a cramped cell writing, “this moment captures
what it’s like for women” “in CBP custody, to share a cramped cell.” “Some held for 50 days.” “For them to be denied
showers for up to 15 days” “and life saving medication.” “For some, it also means being separated” “from their children.” “This is El Paso Border
Station number one.” And after touring the facilities, the lawmakers had a news conference. And while they spoke, you also heard protestors
yelling over them, forcing then them to yell to be heard. There were also reports
that some protestors yelled racist and sexist slurs
at some of the Congresswomen. We also saw moments like when
Representative Rashida Tlaib was giving a speech,
protestors were yelling at her, – [Crowd members] We don’t
want Sharia law here. We don’t care about Sharia law,
we care about Jesus Christ. – There was that. Now, as you may have noticed
there were a lot of responses from the Representatives centered around, the Border Patrol agents. And that appears to be partly because, right before the lawmakers
toured the facilities, ProPublica published a report
about a secret Facebook group for Border Patrol agents. Where it was reported that
agents reportedly joked about migrant deaths
and posted sexist memes. According to ProPublica, the group was created in August of 2016 and consists of 9,500
current and former agents. Reportedly it’s called I’m 10-15, which is the Border Patrol
code for aliens in custody. And according to the report, the agents in the group, quote, “joked about the deaths of migrants,” “discussed throwing burritos
at Latino members of Congress” “visiting a detention
facility in Texas on Monday” “and posted a vulgar
illustration depicting” “Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez” “engaged in oral sex
with a detained migrant.” With a caption, “lucky illegal immigrant” “glory hole special starring AOC.” And among other things, they
also provided a screenshot of a doctored photo where
AOC is engaging in oral sex with Donald Trump, which
we’re not gonna be showing for obvious reasons. There’s also another
screenshot from the group showing an article with a picture of AOC and Representative Veronica
Escobar with a comment, “let’s start a GoFundMe for
one CTX agent brave enough” “to throw a 10-15 burrito
at one of these bitches.” The report also said that agents, “joked about a 16 year old Guatemalan boy” “who died in Border
Patrol custody in May.” Another post appeared to show one agent making fun of a viral picture
of a father and daughter who had drowned trying
to cross the Rio Grande. And ProPublica also
reported that they were able to link the participants in
those online conversations to apparently legitimate Facebook profiles belonging to Border Patrol agents. And reportedly that included a supervisor based in El Paso, Texas and an agent in Eagle Pass, Texas. Now after this report came out, we saw CBP quickly publishing a statement, saying that “the CBP contacted” “the Department of
Homeland Security Office” “of the Inspector General and
initiated an investigation.” With the U.S. Border Patrol
Chief also condemning the page, saying, “these posts are
completely inappropriate” “and contrary to the honor
and integrity I see,” “and expect, from our
agents day in and day out.” “Any employees found to have violated” “our standards of conduct
will be held accountable.” We also saw the lawmakers who toured the facility responding. Representative Judy Chu
posted a video on Twitter addressing the Facebook page, saying, – If they have these kind
of derogatory feelings about us, you can only imagine what they’re thinking
about these detainees. These are the ones who
are in charge of them? Well, there seriously
has to be some change. – [Philip] Representative
Castro also spoke about the page during a press conference. – That was a vulgar,
disgusting, and vile page. (mumbles) – [Crowd member] Traitor. – That shows, unfortunately. – [Crowd member] Traitor. – That there are many within
CBP who become desensitized to the point of being dangerous to the migrants in their care and to their coworkers. – [Philip] And AOC also
tweeted about the news, saying, “this isn’t about a few bad eggs.” “This is a violent culture.” “9,500 CBP officers sharing
memes about dead migrants” “and discussing violence
and sexual misconduct” “towards members of Congress.” “How on Earth can CBP’s
culture be trusted” “to care for refugees humanely?” But on the other side of this, you have the likes of Tomi Lahern responding to one of AOC’s tweets. Specifically, the one where she says, “I see why CBP officers
were being so physically” “and sexually threatening towards me.” To which Tomi Lahern responded, “you have zero awareness
of what our CBP officers” “do on a daily basis.” “Are you surprised they
don’t want to be around you?” “No law enforcement official would.” “You’re completely out of line” “and a disgrace to this nation.” “I feel sorry for our CBP
officers who had to be near you.” And ultimately that’s where we
are with this story right now and it’s gonna be interesting
to see how this moves forward. Because, obviously,
while a lot of this news has to do with the CBP, right, the personnel, the Facebook group. There is, of course, the massive
issue of the overcrowding, the horrible conditions. And on that note, just
yesterday we saw Donald Trump sign a $4.6 billion border aid bill that was approved by Congress last week. And while we have a good number of, both Democrats and Republicans
hoping that this bill will provide further funding
for detention centers so migrants don’t have to be kept at Border Patrol facilities
for extended periods of time. You also, at the same time,
have others, like AOC, who voted against the bill
and said in a tweet yesterday, “they just wrote a multi-billion
dollar blank check” “for misconduct.” Which isn’t surprising
because in the past, she’s said that she wants
a pure, humanitarian bill, as well as, saying the bill
lacked humanitarian provisions. Ultimately, like I said
this is where we are today, and, of course, I’d love
to know your thoughts on this story. And that’s where I’m
going to end today’s show. And hey, if you’re new here, you want more of these daily dives, be sure to hit that subscribe button, definitely ring that bell
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they even snag Chris Evans from Not Another Teen Movie fame? (laughing) Ah, that’s so stupid.

100 thoughts on “WOW! Secret Group Exposed, Harry Styles Louis Tomlinson Fanfic Outrage, & Nike Betsy Ross Pull

  1. Hi! I'm sorry about those mouth sounds yesterday. But only a little. 😉
    Time codes: Euphoria 00:21 – TIA 4:37 – Nike 6:11 – Border 11:10

  2. PLEASE stop throwing in Tommy lahren's (don't care to sleep her name right she's a nasty person) opinion. If you're trying to be a credible news source that's not the way to do it.

  3. They didn't have to specifically mention them like they could have talked about the culture or the escapism of it wothout specifically saying that these are louis and harry begore their show in TMH they mentioned the names and drew tyem to be exactly like them to geth the money and attention they know this will get them

  4. I must be the last to know that the original colonial flag of the USA is racist. When can we start celebrating history again?

  5. On the euphoria situation:
    I wouldn't have cared if the men were contacted about the scene, but because they were unaware of it, I think that's a bit of a problem, especially with such a provocative scene. If the show used fictional or satirical characters that would be ok. I just couldn't imagine just watching tv one day and seeing a cartoon version of myself fondling another real person I personally know without consent

  6. Is no one going to acknowledge that the picture for the petition says “that’s gonna be a fucking yikes from me bro”?😂

  7. I had no intentions of ever buying Nike already because 1.) Their products are very poor quality, 2.) They are expensive, 3.) Their product in unethically made in sweatshops, 4.) They repeated insult my country and the country that allowed them to flourish

  8. HBO has done a show with penises before with Oz. I'm all for it cause I'm tired of seeing only woman naked.

  9. How would it go if HBO depicted images of real women doing sexual things without their consent? How is this different?

  10. Free advertisements for Nike, Euphoria, and AOC's clown car reality show. I thought you were better than this. Don't be a sellout.

  11. That Governor is amazing at his job, it's like it's trendy to say fuck the nation that gave us the ability to be at the position we're at. Get out of America if you're gonna bitch about it that much.

  12. As soon as they won't let public officials in with a camera you know there is a problem. In any normal prison if they fefused to allow journalsits any acess and then later allowed congress in but no cameras or recording devices that prison would be on the fast track to being shut down. This situation is a disgrace and will be a stain on our reputation and moral authority for a long time. Kind of difficult for us to fave a finger at human rights abuses when we are also doing that.

  13. the only answer to stupid divisiveness is civil war, and we all know who will survive, not those vegan baristas with unknown gender with a degree with gender studies

  14. man what an old argument with shipping real people, I have seen this play out on tumblr a thousand times, I remember when I was much younger I shipped Tobusucs and Jacksfilms I even wrote a shitty fanfic of them hooking up. I think it's just harmless fun, if you don't like it done seek it. Now that i'm older I see the problem in shipping real people and I see how it's wrong!! but I really think people are over reacting. As long as there are 10 to 16 year olds, inappropriate ships will exist haha

  15. People are really outraged Nike isn't using a flag that is indeed not the American Flag? Yet people have no opinion of Southerners driving around in pickup trucks flying the American flag next to the confederate flag.

  16. Euphoria is a great show, it shows the very real side of growing up in this generation that people don't want to see/believe but is happening right now

  17. as a total outside why do americans make EVERYTHING a left vs right, democrat vs conservative issue? these your issues affect you all. it changes the point of the debate.

  18. These "migrants" are illegal! They broke the law when they entered the USA not using a point of entry or by legal means. They should not be a kept at the Hilton. What is the deterent to stop this illegal activity?! This is costing US citizens a ton of money, you can't afford to take care of your vets, elderly, public schools, homeless but you want to spend billions helping illegal migrants who knew damn well they were breaking the law?! What the hell is wrong with these people on the left? The USA is screwed, the western world is going to destroy itself listening to the insanity of the left. As for kids being separated, well of course they get separated, can't put then in jail, if I rob a bank with my kid in tow do you think they will put him in a cell with me? The fact this is even a discussion shows how downhill the United States is headed. You are no longer the greatest country in the world, you are becoming a joke, can't get anything done. Democrats have done nothing but complain about trump, done nothing for the country. If the left gets their way the USA may as well accept that they are going to become a second world or even third world country. Just look at sanfrancisco, visited on business a few months back, what a pile of garbage that once beautiful city has become, California is a mess. This is what happens when you underfund your education to the point where the majority of your population becomes stupid. The self entitled millennials have never had to face adversity, they are going to face a very difficult future that they will only have themselves to blame but by then its too late so it won't matter. Good luck USA, too bad Russia and China are going to leave you in the dust.

  19. Everyone knows it's zarry lol jk and this is why Fandom gets looked at wrong I still feel it's a bit strange to depict that in a show I believe Fandom should stay in a Fandom bubble not mass consumed to be made fun of I guess.

  20. "History offends me! Make it stop!" So fucking ridiculous. These people are terrorists, holding anyone with common sense hostage to their opinions.

  21. we should not be required to provide these people with anything at all. they chose to come here, they chose to break our laws, they chose to try to impose their will on our nation, and we're suppose to pay their utilities? go fuck yourself.

  22. The government really does care more about illegal immigrants than the army vet sleeping on the sidewalk who can't afford healthcare

  23. I used to write Larry fanfic when I was younger and even I think that’s hella cringy to put in a TV show 😂

  24. AOC: blocks funding bill for aid to camps
    Also AOC: why aren't we spending more money helping these people?

  25. The CBP story is truly disgusting. This kind of situation is something one wouldn't think existed in a developed country. It's absolutely horrible and everyone should be disgusted by this.

  26. Always fun to see US citizens fighting each other for stupid things. I just hope it gets worse, just so people get the taste of the medicine their government has been serving all around the world.

  27. Really? Not going to comment on the drinking from toilets and no running water being complete fabrications? Not going to talk about that one? Really?

  28. So I didn't hear about this story and I volunteered to dress up like Besty Ross for people to take photos with at a free veterans event on the 4th and I WAS SO CONFUSED WHY PEOPLE WERE YELLING AT ME ABOUT NIKI ALL DAY

  29. The border has a lot of crisis, people coming in, camps, supplies, etc etc. And all needs money and funds. And as far as i can see, the parties cannot come to an agreement with the bill. The bill doesnt have to be complete, just put what you guys agree and send money for that (not all the money). And they they can debate after for the remaining. Any help to the resources may it be for the people or the officers would help them to deal with this better.

  30. It makes me sad my hometown is always in the news for the border crisis. El Paso has other shit going on, I swear.

  31. Larry was a huge deal for Harry and Louis. They couldn't even be alone together without people speculating and it put a stain on their friendship. I think it was very disrespectful for them not to get permission from the pair.

  32. I think the difference between this and south park is that south park's audience knows it's depiction of famous people is meant to be parady. It's the nature of the show. In the case of Euphoria, the two individuals are actors on the show, and it can be easily assumed they were involved in the creative direction of their characters, making it seem as though they were aware and signed off on this decision. But they weren't.
    This seems like the creators of the show took advantage of the two actors and previous gossip surrounding them. I can see how they might not want to revisit that.

  33. If Apple can sue a production company for using their logo without their consent, why wouldn’t that apply to REAL PEOPLE?

  34. 1. HBO definitely should have at least reached out to Harry and Louis out of respect. I remember that whole internet mess and the way those guys were fetishized by millions of people publicly online was honestly kind of scary. I couldn't blame them for being upset that this is getting dragged up again; that time couldn't have been easy on them.
    2. We have concentration camps in America again and there is not nearly enough concern about it.

  35. The Betsey Ross Flag/Nike logic is why I don’t think there can ever be enough reparations for those who will seek it. If the founding of our country is considered racist, I don’t think there’s a way forward.

  36. It's ironic that people take so much offense to a flag that symbolizes their freedom to speak out and detest the way the world functions… The United States broke free from old world thinking to pursue a different path and yet is demonized more than any other country for even unintentionally reminding people that we have discrepancies within our society… Have you simply forgotten that this country has made strides in tolerance quicker and more effective than any other country? Have you forgotten that it's because this country paved the way for the disenfranchised to cry their laments that they now are free? Obviously this country still has issues and obviously we still are far away from being the essence of what that flag should stand for; however, the mere fact that we have expanded our flag from 13 colonies to 50 states is a testament to the progress and capability of this country to foster different thoughts and ideas of how we should govern ourselves. To denounce that kindling, is to piss on the fire that it sparked even though the fire grants you warmth, s'mores and hot-dogs…

  37. Literally anytime i hear something from Tomi Lahren I die a little. Shes so hateful and uncaring without any reason or proof. The fact that there are like-minded, grown human beings that take what she says to heart terrifies me.

  38. How is the flag racist?? If that's the case, then anything fucking cotton, and all tobacco products are racist as well. Those products were made by slaves

  39. I support Kaepernicks kneeling but the Betsy Ross flag thing is ridiculous. It doesn’t stand for slavery or anything, just our original flag which is cool. How about the fact that Nike literally already uses slavery?

  40. I’m not one of those idiots that cut up their shoes but my Nikes needs to be replaced soon and since they want to pander so much over such an idiotic thing such as the American flag 🇺🇸 I will be buying another brand of shoes and help their rivals make more money and keep my money out of Keapernick’s pocket

  41. Thank you so much for the Chris Evans "Not Another Teen Movie" bit, and for blessing this video with it a second time at the end!!! <3 I loved it! #BestHollywoodChris #TheAssAmericaDeserves #CaptainAmericAss? #CaptainBeautyBooty #HumanDorito #ThatRatio!

  42. Cartoon animation laws are that you can depict anyone doing anything as long as you did not ask them to voice act in it and they said no, so it is only legal if you did not ask them and if you did, they said yes

  43. Larry destroyed the friendship between Harry and Louis. They said it themselves that it ruined a deep connection they had. Now instead of Larry being on wattpad and tumblr it’s on TELEVISION! These are real people with real feelings and there’s REAL consequences. Adding that scene when the real people you’re depicting are NOT comfortable with it makes others feel uncomfortable as well. Very disappointed.

  44. People were so upset about the flag, and gave up all those jobs people wouldve gotten had the dumby politican not gotten involved. Omg.

  45. I'm actually more offended by the flag being called the "Betsy Ross Flag" more than it's iconic representation of what a new country with a different approach on governance would be. Her descendants were the ones to push that propaganda into our textbooks. She wasn't a part of that process. The person who was is constantly being screwed over by not being recognized as the real creator.

  46. I don't see the big deal with the Euphoria thing, but I also associate the term Euphoria with hardcore BDSM guro visual novels.

  47. In my opinion the shoe thing is equivalent to saying that you have a problem with the majors advancements in technology like steam engine the telephone the light bulb and etc.

  48. Fanfics never need permission.
    An animated fanfic? Still doesn't need permission.
    An animated fanfic shown on TV? I used to watch a show that starred only celebrities put into violent situations. This feels on the same level and that did not need permission.
    An animated fanfic that exists within another show that aired on TV? …That's a little meta but, probably more okay than the above example.

    Personally I like that they showed how important shipping is in modern fandoms. It's such a huge thing that no-one talks about other than to bash it. This was a harmless and cool move.

  49. I’m sure there’s other states who support Nike’s actions and would give them a deal to build a factory in their state… I understand that this flag was not meant to have anything to do with slavery, I wasn’t aware racists were repurposing this flag, but people whose ancestors were slaves have the right to be offended. It’s not as bad as if it was the confederate flag. I feel like Nike was going to get backlash either way, BUT I feel like they made the right decision for their brand and to show support and respect to POC who were offended. ✌🏼💕

  50. @phil did you also see the video of the "water from the toilets"? Ya it isnt out of the bowl of the toilet, it is from the sink above attached to the toilet. Aoc is a moron.

  51. oh my god forest hills is so close to my school i swear to gOd i’m gonna scream. i have cousins who go there and are not white. none of us are, we are all mexican. i hate seeing that my family has to live in an environment like this

  52. Hey, I just want to let everyone know that Arizona’s economy is NOT doing just fine. ESPECIALLY IN GOODYEAR! Idiot.

    “We don’t want Sharia law here” to the woman not wearing a hijab..

  53. From my point of view, me, who was a massive fan of one direction and as a fan of the show euphoria, I want to say that yes, they maybe went too far with the animation but because the show talks a lot about things that are taboo and more important the character that Kat is; I think that the fact that she wrote mature sexual content as an early teenager is the thing that should matter since that really defines the way she acts in the show. And thanks to that I can relate a lot to her, eventhough as I said maybe they overdid the whole thing with the animation but i dont know, it is just a show and more important it is/was a reality that many many fans went through.

  54. How can the US act like they are the greatest country yet treat people on their borders like THAT ? And not bat an eyelid?

  55. I don’t get the controversy with Nike when it comes to those shoes specifically. It’s not like they put the confederate flag.

  56. Nah. Nothing wrong with the Euphoria thing. It's art depicting a real phenomenon from the past. It's fine. And yeah I put myself in their shoes too. I still wouldn't be up in arms. Embarrassed? Probably. But all if any ire would be directed at the people who began the phenomenon in the first place. And they were just horny lonely teenagers. So… yeah. There's really no one to be legitimately mad at here. It just is what it is.

  57. I am hard pressed to think that Nike's marketing wasn't aware of the current sociopolitical context surrounding the Betsy Ross flag. They were trying to sneak in as neutral of an appeal to the right leaning masses as possible to compensate for the previous campaign. They were caught, and appropriately reprimanded. That right leaning individuals reacted negatively to it is of no concern to me. When their opinions are ass backwards to begin with as they are, such convictions simply come with the territory I imagine. A shame the governor decided to forsake so many innocent people for his misguided opinions. May he and all those who helped lead to that decision suffer appropriately.

  58. I currently want nothing more than to personally disembowel any individual who engaged in, and/or continues to engage in the sick shit I saw on those facebook pages. I want all of them fired. Every motherfucking guard, supervisor, clerk, congressman, president, general, soldier, civilian. Every waste of oxygen who defends these camps and the culture they support. I want them all starving on the fucking streets. I want to watch them suffer. They are wrong. Indefensibly wrong. There is no moral grey area here. Hence why people like Tomi Lahren have no defense save mindless insults. I want those camps abolished. I want proper infrastructure put in place to VERY temporarily house these migrant human beings. I want the non-violent criminals properly integrated into our society. It's possible. Raise the taxes if you have to. I don't care. I could use some fiscal responsibility anyway. I'm so violently angry right now. And yet… I won't go down there. I won't put my life on the line for these innocent people. I'll continue to type away here and live my own life, contributing only with words and votes. So… in the end… am I not part of the problem?

  59. The flag thing is ridiculous. I'd even support a shoe with a confederate flag on them.
    It sounds to me like you could force an association with a flag and a group of people and totally destroy the flags original purpose/history/etc. Private business can do what they want but their reasoning is flawed and just straight up incorrect.

  60. I mean… fanfic is one thing, but to see it on the "big screen" normalizes the idea that they could be in a gay relationship with one another. I don't know if they are or aren't gay, and if they are then that's there business. BUT, imagine waking up to this and people thinking you are gay when in fact you're not. When you go out and you may have to keep telling guys that you're not gay and reject them over and over. Or when you try to go on dates, some women may think that you're bi and would now have to compete with both sexes. On another front, what if they were already in a relationship and their partner doesn't like that people keep "shipping" the person they love with someone else, that can make their partner feel bad about the situation. Personally, I would sue because it's defamation. Hell there were actors who sued for defamation against south park, but the big difference is the fact that South Park made sure to parody them in such a way where it was so different from the real person that it was protected. This just changes their sexual orientation and not necessarily their character.

  61. Why I didn’t like the Harry/Louis scene: I was a fan of 1D and had a front row seat to all these rabid gaggle of individuals and they are NUTS. Like it’s weird that they were so convinced that Harry and Louis we’re dating in the first place, but then they took it further when they started contacting their parents, siblings, and other friends and family on twitter and threatened them and called their girlfriend beards. They said terrible things to their family all because they thought they could insert themselves in other peoples lives.

    On top of that once Louis had a kid they started saying the kid was fake or that the baby had different parents that were being paid off
    and even wished death on his baby. It even came between Louis and Harry to the point they stopped interacting with each other. This isn’t a minor incident. These are real people who had their lives effected by this behavior and I find it hard to shrug this off when I’ve seen the horrendous lengths people will go to.

    I get the whole fanfiction thing, I was there too, but there’s a 4th wall that needs to be acknowledged and threatening someone’s girlfriend because you think he’s dating his best friend is fucked up and shouldn’t be laughed off. I get not everyone knows the details of this, it’s definitely not common knowledge, but there’s more to it then just “people thought they were secretly dating”. It took a dark turn and I can’t even believe there are people to this day who still believe Louis and Harry are seeing each other.

  62. I had no clue the Betsy Ross flag had anything to do w/ white supremacist groups until this "controversy" happened & I bet many people didn't either, so Adrienne Lawrence is making big assumptions when she said that those groups were who Nike was marketing, too. All Nike saw when they put the flag on the shoe was a historical flag. That's it. There was no malice.

  63. Just a question: It is still illegal to illegally enter the US right? If so why are people surprised when aliens that broke the law are locked up in a camp?

  64. I don't have a problem. It's fanfiction. FICTION=Not real. I used to write fanfiction for a fandom I was in ages ago. shrug

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