Why This Japanese Politician Taking Paternity Leave Is A Major Culture Shock

Why This Japanese Politician Taking Paternity Leave Is A Major Culture Shock

100 thoughts on “Why This Japanese Politician Taking Paternity Leave Is A Major Culture Shock

  1. I think Americans should focus on improving their own parental leaves since their country doesn't even have mandatory Maternal leave.

  2. I think that with him doing so, it will spark emotions in people and with the Japanese being so devout, it will take time but i feel like it will give more fathers to feel like they can have a family and work without it getting in the way of each other….and i had no idea that their population has started to decline. I hope it can rebound.

  3. If you want population growth, make it easy to grow your family. Punish employers who fire/demote employees and don’t scrutinize men who wants to stay at home with their kids.
    I’m lucky enough that I live in a country where you get full pay for a year and the father HAS to take 12 weeks of that year.

  4. I love how progressive yet regressive Japan and other Asian countries are. He should have taken more time off! As I say, if you’re going to sin then sin right and all the way!

  5. I'm far too cynical the think this one high profile case will change anything. Given the culture of the country and just how much more they weigh the role of the mother over the role of the father.

  6. Japan need to have friendly immigration practices. If they had just enough people moving in to replace 75% of what the lose they'd be okay.

  7. I'll wait after Summer 2020 to see if there's birth rate rise from it. Hopefully I go to it…..it's not like to find anyone….baka.

  8. In my opinion how much leave he should take really shouldn't matter to anyone, while yes it is a major culture shock in Japan, the amount of leave he should feel comfortable taking should be up to his wife. Because, i feel it should be the wife's call to say "hey I can handle the baby on my own now, go back to work." Whether or not that's a few months or the full year.

  9. Maternity/Paternity leave should be equal between both are givers regardless if you are heterosexual or LGBGTQI, it should also be flexible and paid.
    Leave should be flexible from birth until child leaves school.
    Yes babies need you and that bond needs to form but at different stages of life the older child needs you as much if not more especially with huge pressure re social media, bullying, exam stats and results.
    In UK my husband was given 16 weeks paid leave to be used from birth until our daughter was 15.
    It was a huge bonus.
    My daughter really gained from having my husband around by keeping some leave to be used at key times like moving from Primary to Secondary School, Exam time etc.
    He was able to use leave in flexible manner which meant his work benifited from him being in part of week so additional cover not required, by daughter gained by having additional support at home during stressful times and my husband gained stronger relationship with her but did not feel swamped with workload.
    Paternity / Maternity leave worldwide needs all over radical overhaul getting support for next generation essential just look at mental health crisis we currently have and you only get one go at getting it right.
    Looking outside of box we can meet needs of child, care giver and employer.

  10. Lol Japan changing societal expectations? Just because they paper law says they can doesn't mean they won't passive aggressively retaliate for using benefits earned xD

  11. In Denmark parents has immunity from being fired for taking parentaleave. It differs on which union that negotiated your salary on how long you can take paid leave otherwise you get a salery from the government when that time is used up. Dads or second mom gets 2 weeks around the birth then there is 32 week that can be shared between the two parents. Mom that gives birth gets 4 weeks before term date then 14 weeks after birth before the 32 shareable weeks

  12. People (particularly conservatives) constantly complain about the degradation of the traditional family unit.

    And yet in the same breath they scorn men who actually take the time to be a father figure in their children’s lives. It’s the height of hypocrisy.

  13. Most companies don't give a shit about their employee's personal life and they expect them to work hard and not make any excuses. My dad one time said he complained about back pain when he was working for Fed Ex they didn't care how much pain he was in they still forced him to work. He got so fed up that he ended up leaving the company.

  14. Japan make Lost in Emotion and pay cuts after someone comes back from maternity leave or massively fine the companies that do so to the point that if they kept doing it they would go bankrupt

  15. This is such a big issue for both men and women in Japan. It makes it hard for women to get hired because they are assumed to one day leave and have a child just because they are women! And if they do have a child, they rarely get to come back without some repercussions if they aren't just fired outright. And if they get married it's even more of a struggle. So many women are just deciding to never get married or have children if they want to keep their job. Which doesn't help a population of young men in Japan who are lonely and having trouble meeting women. It's just a mess. The Japanese women's "Me Too" movement centered around this discussion so that's where I've read a lot of these stories. A lot of aspects of the culture are making having children a really difficult decision.

  16. As an estonian it is crazy to hear about people taking off like 2 weeks, our paternity leave is 3 years. It really baffles me to hear about US having practically no laws about that subject

  17. I was just in a debate without someone saying American companies nor the government should not give paid maternity/ paternity leave to parents because it's a "personal choice" that the company shouldn't pay for. There's really people looking at Japan spiraling into pre industrial population numbers and thinking that's something to emulate.
    I don't care if it's fair to the company or not- our children are literally our future and not letting people take the time to have them is directly putting entire countries in danger of collapse.

  18. The idea that it's your duty to "love your job" is incredibly weird and incredibly damaging. Your job is not you, it's just what you do in order to survive. People need to stop romanticizing "working hard". Working haɾd generally just makes you sick from stress and wears your body out. And for what? Generally, someone else's bank account. We as a society need to reconsider what we see as valuable.

  19. That's practically no time off at all. I think they really need to do something to get men to take way more time off for parental leave although I'm pretty sure it's more of an issue with not taking enough time off in general than just men for parental leave. In the US I feel like most people don't take enough time off but I'm pretty sure that people take way less time off in Japan so the focus should probably be on the broader issue of general time off if that is actually the case.

  20. Support for the mother after a birth greatly reduces post partum depression risk and paternity leave helps with father child bonding, two factors that only serve to incentivize having more kids.

  21. Japan haven’t been having enough children. Anything they can do that can support families is in the country’s best interest

  22. He's taking fourteen days off of work spread over three months and people are freaking out? That's like almost nothing. I mean, kudos to him for doing it since it's such a big deal, but…why is so little such a big deal?

  23. If you want your population to increase, then make child care easier for the parents (especially first time parents). No one wants their child to have a difficult upbringing.

  24. This could be because I live in Canada but don't most countries have parental leave? I know the US does not but I'm sure most developed countries have it. My wife is taking a year off here (we didn't pick the 18 month option) in Canada no questions asked. Company knows about it, government paper is ready to be filed for payments and her job is making it easier for her up to the due date by making her work less hours at the same pay and already are talking about when she comes back. i have the option to take leave as well but our income would be less if i did due to how much I bring in. Still can't believe the US doesn't have this in place.

  25. I really hope things change for Japan, it's not great here in the USA but men taking parental leave in Japan is almost non existent. Wish they'd have better laws in the united states to offer more. I was only able to take off 2 weeks here in Utah when my sweet baby was born.

  26. 5 days of paternity leave (in the case of a healthy labor and delivery) was perfect for me. The money from longer paternity leave isn't enough to compensate me for the lost career opportunity. Myself and my employer would rather I take one week off and extra 3 weeks salary, than four weeks of leave. I need money, not time.

    but many think its best for the government to mandate something the market is already moving towards.I don't believe government mandates are useful as to many fall through the cracks.

  27. As a woman living in Denmark I got 3 months on my own my husband got 2 weeks and then we had a year that we could hold together. I took 9 months and my husband is taking the rest. I think it's important that men take more leave to be with their kids.

  28. My first kid my wife had a hemorrhage and had to be in the hospital for a week. She was to weak to even hold the baby. I would have loved to been able to take some time off to help her. However my work didn't offer paternity leave so I had to go to work during the day and spend my nights at the hospital caring for the baby.

  29. Hopefully paternity leave becomes more common but if not then it's not the end of the world, it's certainly not as troubling as Japan's work culture itself.

  30. When my daughter was born I had to take off work without pay, I would have loved to been able to have more time with her right after she was born. But ya know, work

  31. I've heard some Japanese women are actually afraid or have no desire of having children due to their employers forcing them to retire early, or straight up quit, so they end up choosing their careers over having a family.

  32. So Japan wants to give no paternal leave, drive women away from having children because they don't let them integrate back into the work force and give them less promotion simply for being women, working their population to death and then cry about their decreasing birthrate ? Wow .

  33. He might not love his job? Yeah I would hope not, you don't work for enjoyment, you work to pay for the things you enjoy- like family.

  34. this is a much bigger deal than people think it is cause in Japan your job is expected to be your number one priority even over family you literally live to work over there and no matter how many laws they put on paper that is a sentiment that won't go away easily and when you talk into account the low birthrate in Japan and also take into account that Japan has one of the highest suicide rates most of those having to do with stress induced by people jobs to the point where Japan has a specific word for working yourself to death called karoshi you begin to see what a serious issue this man taking leave really is

  35. It will take a large movement of fathers taking parental leave. I’m living and working in Japan currently and the social pressure to conform is crazy compared to my American upbringing. Unless there is a large enough movement to make this practice a social norm, this will remain a taboo.

  36. I don't believe it will change much, but it could be the start of something slowly. I also believe, he should've taken more time off.

  37. Equality is a two way street whether in the workplace or home life. How this is viewed by others is irrelevent.
    This above all, to thine own self be true.

  38. I've never been able to see why people from outside of the country defend all aspects of Japanese culture. There's a lot to love, but there's also a lot to dislike, and the borderline slavery that happens in the workplace, to the point where collapsing on the streets due to exhaustion is considered a medal of honor, is unacceptable in a developed country.

  39. Fathers should take more time off to rais their children. I think 3 months is a good number for men to take off to help rais their new born children. However, I don't think we should worry about birth rates dropping around the world. The world is already over populated. There will be short term financial hurdles to face unil the older generation dies, but only short term.

  40. Please for the love of god make these real deep dives. This is all just surface level knowledge, I love this channel and I want it to grow but it wont with quick 5 minutes videos.

  41. unfortunately japans issues are systemic and revolve around there culture of the honor system. It might not be law now but even as your story shows even if you follow the laws put in place workplaces will still fire you for not following the honor systems expected. it leads to major problems in japan and is leading to the highest suicide rates in a developed country, and this declining birth rate.

  42. I feel that Japan as a culture is either currently experiencing a burnout or it will or soon from the workaholic nature that is there.

  43. I'm a father, and I think this is is a ridiculous concept. Unless the extremely rare situation occurs where the father is given sole custody of a new born child (i.e. mother passed during child birth or mother immediately loses custody due to incarceration or deemed unfit as a parent by a court.), the father should not be given paid paternity leave. With one parent at home, the household needs to have sufficient income and not be a hassle unto others to have to support them. If this hasn't been a concept that has proven to have work for thousands of years, then, and only then,should this be brought up as a conversation. Now if the paternity leave is an unpaid thing just to make sure a father doesn't lose their job if they choose to take advantage of the optional leave for a few months, okay, no big deal. When you start saying paid, that's the problem.

  44. This "most progressive laws in the developed world" is only true if you do not count many European countries as developed world. 3 years with financial support and job guarantees is common I Germany and many other countries. I liked this channel for their long, deep videos that did not come too often to dilute the content by mass production. With the start of the new year xiz guys suddenly started darting out short blah blah videos with trending hashags. That's not good. Revert to the old style please.

  45. I think Koizumi taking any kind of maternity leave is a huge step; even though it's a couple weeks, even though its spread out over several months, the fact that he is voluntarily taking time away from work is a big deal. He's right in that more and more men will need to take time off in this way for a movement to start, but I think it's a single step that will be the start of something worthwhile. Japan's culture of overwork is a whole topic on its own, and changing that in any way will be a titanic effort.

  46. This seems insane to me. My partner and I are expecting our first child in 9 weeks. My husband is the head of the IT department at a University and he is still taking 2 and a half months off once bub is born.

  47. I've lived in Japan for 30 years. For most of this time I've had a job that requires me to call students at home on a weekly basis. Back in the 90's, I used to dread the rare occasion fathers would answer the phone. They were gruff and clueless. Some would just hang up. One yelled at me. Almost all would just grunt or say nothing and hand the phone to the wife. There has been a shift. I can't say when exactly. Nowadays way more fathers answer the phone and across the board they are friendly and bright. They know exactly what is going on and go get the kids themselves. The Sunday Papa thing was real. But now you can see dads around fairly often taking care of kids; carrying them, laughing, playing while like shopping. So I can definitely say fathers are more involved now. I can't say much about paternity leave, but my wife did get a full year of paid maternity leave no problem. I can also say the family structure here is a bit different from the US. New mothers aren't generally left completely on their own. My wife was in the hospital a full week for a normal child birth. It's common for a mother to go stay with her parents (her mother really) when a child is born. My brother-in-law lives next door to grandma. The family in the house across from us have two generations; grandparents live on the top.

  48. I think these Rouge Rocket dives are too short! It genuinely feels like we aren't getting a full picture. It's my opinion, I could be wrong

  49. Change is granular. The people who broke ground were the men who took time off and sued their employer. Koizumi is certainly an exclamation point on the bid for paternal leave, though.

  50. Love seeing men taking parental leave. Will this change anything? Immediately no. But all positive changes starts somewhere, and this is it.

  51. Living in Japan and seeing how stuff blew up when Koizumi announced this, I couldn't do anything but applause him. I wish he would take longer leave to make a point, but when changing standards I guess you can't go to the extremes immediately.
    I get the impression of that the younger generation (those who are 30-40 today) here in Japan are very open for this kind of change, but the people at the top are still living by the old rules and that's why clashes happens. It's very sad and frustrating but also understandable. People are scared of change.
    But, change like this is needed. Koizumi alone probably can't change everything but because he's such a big, public figure I hope that him taking leave is the start of something that eventually will make things better. More humane, even.

  52. Great, now how about not allowing kids to be abducted and not locking up parents in inhumane conditions who are only trying to contact their abducted kids. You're supposed to be a first world country. https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-scott-mcintyre-fight-for-his-kids

  53. Men should have parental leave, but trying to spur the birth rate is stupid. There are far more reasons to NOT have children than there are to have them with the current geopolitical/environmental climate. If your economic system is built on infinite population growth, your model is fundamentally unsustainable and therefore a terrible nation-planning idea. Give parental leave to all so that every parent can contribute equally, but do not coerce the population into breeding the next generation of consumers. They're unlikely to die natural deaths at this point.

  54. Having a strong work ethic and dedication to a job is a great thing, but it sounds like the work culture in Japan is toxic in this regard. Employers want dedicated employees who work hard and are reliable, of course. But there needs to be work/life balance. If employees feel shame and guilt in taking just a few days off to attend to family matters then there is a serious problem.

  55. We have had a year paid maternity leave for years. The time can be taken by the mother or father or shared between the two. So mom could take 6 months and dad the other 6 or 3 & 9 or what ever but they only switch once.

  56. This is a start in the right direction but I think things will have to get worse before they get better. Only when the gravity of the situation really hits the ones who can affect change will wide-scale change happen. I'm guessing more of the population will have to die of old age with no replacements or elderly company bosses will have to wonder why company growth has stagnated before people think about having more babies again.

  57. Major cultural shifts always start with one voice, but only pick up speed with a rise of like-minded voices chipping in. In all honesty, Japan better get to it or else They're gonna have to start easing up on immigration…

  58. Japan's rigid cooperate our work culture controls too much of an individual's personal life. Not only do people overwork but people must go drinking, karaoke, etc with their bosses afterwards, then start the day over again. Women are also culturally bound to the domestic sphere as well, they cannot enter the work force as a permanent worker as easily as a man can because companies demand or require so much work from their employees on top of housework or child rearing. The concept of" you work in order to live" is backwards and instead " you live to work". I'm not an expert but this was the impression I got having lived there for a year and from my peers there. Cultural values and stigma doesn't change over night. I believe it would beneficial to somehow strike a balance to alleviate pressure for "salarymen" and more work friendly to women. And for immediate problem of the gap between the working class and the aging population is of course to allow immigrants with work permits.

  59. The "low birth rate crisis" in japan is a crisis entirely of its own making. Its totally avoidable, but conservative, racist old men in power refuse to adapt. Either stop mistreating and abusing your employees and stop being incredibly sexist, or allow immigration and stop being so horribly zenophobic. Its an incredibly easy fix and I have no sympathy whatsoever for what befalls Japan in the future as they continue to fail to try to fix any of this in a meaningful way.

  60. The problem isn't only the stigma against parental leave, it's the work culture of this country. I work in Japan. I work 7days a week. Never home before 8pm(and that's on my early days). When I tell Japanese people this, they praise me. Working laws have to change and be inforced. Because even if there are laws…people are still too afraid to change their ways.

  61. In Germany the woman can take 2 years or woman and men take each 1 year off. Easy spoken. I heard that something changed a little bit but basically it still is some kind like that.
    I don't think that it will change the whole country through one men but it's a start to talk about it more openly and future generations will perhaps bring the change.

  62. He opened the doors. With any social issue, it will first get worse before it gets accepted.
    And with his particular partial leave: I support it. You can't step out of the spotlight for too long as a politician or leave the function of leader empty for too long. He's one of the few cases where I think a partial leave is better than a full leave.

  63. I respect Koizumi. I have lived in Japan for the last five years and am married to a Japanese man. I've become frustrated with this idea of people, men in particular, slaving at work. My husband wakes up around 6:30AM, works overtime for free (as most Japanese people are expected to do), and doesn't come home until on average around 7:30PM. I know many people who don't take days off because of the fear of retaliation, but also this idea that they will be a burden amongst their coworkers. My husband's company is small, and everyone is fond of him since he was able to build great relationships in the beginning, but he is still very unwilling to take days off regardless because he knows how understaffed his company always is. I try to argue that it's the company's fault and problem for being the way it is, but he still can't change his mindset, regardless of him understanding that…Japan can be such a wonderful country for so many reasons, but the overworking and lack of compensation (free overtime, unable to use days off, etc.) can be a very dark park.

  64. As someone who doesn't have kids and don't plan on it, can I take "marriage" leave? I'd love an extra few weeks off to just hang out with my wife apart from our regular vacations. That would be awesome

  65. I believe he's become a symbol for that cultural shift, and will be viewed as an important part of a slow change to come.

  66. Critics of paternal leaves seem to hold this sexist sentiment that men are second-rate parents and mothers are the primary ones.
    I feel like encouraging both parents to take leave can be beneficial for companies. Because there can be less time in between each leave for each parent.
    Also we need paternity leave for gay fathers.

  67. Two weeks spread out over months?! Go big AND go home man.

    On a serious note, I don't think the pronatalist policies in Japan will change their birthrates at all when the culture is what it is. The labor division is extreme, and the pressure is high. As a woman I would be disinclined to produce in those conditions.

  68. I think paternity leave should be available to anyone who has a newborn. The mother and father should share the responsibility of a newborn.

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