Why Don’t Syria, Iran, Iraq And Turkey Want A Kurdistan? | AJ+

Why Don’t Syria, Iran, Iraq And Turkey Want A Kurdistan? | AJ+

The Kurds they’re a world’s largest
ethnic group without a country. They’re spread across one of the most volatile
regions in the world. And you’ve definitely heard of them. Kurdish
militias across Iraq and Syria have gained some popularity in the United
States, but there still isn’t much support for an independent Kurdish state.
Why is that the case? Well it’s complicated
hey guys I’m Sunna this is AJ plus and this Sunday I want to talk about why
making a Kurdish state happen is gonna be tough so the Kurds have been getting
a lot of international attention in the last few years because of their role in
the conflicts in Iraq and Syria Kurdish militias have been battling Isis Syrian
rebels the Iraqi and Syrian government’s to stake claim to land and to also
protect Kurdish communities and October 2017 Kurds in Iraqi Kurdistan took part
in a referendum in which 93% of those who voted chose independence but the
Iraqi government called a referendum illegal and non-binding and while the
referendum was considered a big moment in Kurdish political history what
happened in Iraqi Kurdistan didn’t necessarily represent the direction of
all Kurdish people and Annisa coogee a lecturer at UC Berkeley breaks down why
that’s the case there is no single Kurdish independence
movement after the world war 1 Kurdistan was divided into 4 nation-states Iran
Iraq Turkey and Syria so with that let’s roll back a bit and look at how the
Kurds have ended up where they are today the Kurds are the fourth largest ethnic
group in the region and make up sizeable minority populations across Iran Iraq
Syria and Turkey despite having big numbers they didn’t get their own state
after the fall of the Ottoman Empire when the United Kingdom and France were
busy carving up the region the infamous sykes-picot agreement split the Ottoman
Empire into nation-states but it didn’t really care about how
ethical a diverse the region actually was the Kurds left out of sykes-picot
had negotiated their own state under the Treaty of 7 but that didn’t work out the
treaty was supposed to split modern-day turkey into different zones including
one for the Kurds but it wasn’t ratified thanks to one Turkish nationalists led
by Kemal Ataturk Turkey’s first president Riek
captured all of modern Turkey from the Europeans fast forward to the 1930s 40s
and 50s when we start seeing countries across the region and gain independence
from European colonialism a huge part of pushing back against European
colonialism was the cultivation of various nationalisms pan-arabism for
instance turkeys camel ism or Iranian nationalism all of this meant that
Kurdish sovereignty was either not a priority for pan Erebus leaders in Iraq
and Syria or was a threat for Kamala’s Turkey and for Iran that meant that over
the 20th century the Kurds across these four countries saw a lot of
marginalization there was displacement political repression loss of rights and
massacres and it’s not as though the Kurds didn’t resist their oppression
time and time again they did now the brunt of the state violence faced by
Kurds was in Turkey in Iraq in Turkey the government forcibly displaced over a
million Kurds after several Kurdish revolts in the 1920s and 30s Kurdish
language and culture was banned and violence against a Kurdish population
including torture and destruction of villages was widespread Kurds in Iraq
saw the height of state repression in the late 80s and early 90s under the
leadership of Saddam Hussein the Iraqi government / saw several massacres of
Kurdish civilians during the iran-iraq war the government accused Kurdish
fighters along the Iranian border of assisting the Iranians and led what was
called the unfiled campaign it lasted two years and claimed thousands of
Kurdish lives by the end of the 1980s Iraq in the 90s saw the first Gulf War
Kurdish civil war and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths as a result of
the international sanctions then we get to the early 2000s where there was the
American invasion of Iraq so that brings us now to today a push for Kurdish
independence and the resistance to it Iraqi Kurdish journalist Abdullah hueso
told me how it’s important to think of Kurdistan as more than just a political
aspirations so the idea of having a Kurdish state is not only political
dream it’s actually part of the culture of Kurds it’s part of their identity
they have been raised with thinking that Kurds deserve a statement so who’s
standing in the way let’s start with Turkey and Iran Iran and Turkey are very
much against the establishment of a Kurdish state
even outside of the borders because they feel that if there is a Kurdish
political entity anywhere in the Middle East this would threaten the so-called
national unity of these two countries turkey considers groups like the PKK aka
the Kurdistan Workers Party to beat terrorist groups and threats to national
security Turkey also fears an independent Kurdish state in Iraq would
be used as a base for the PKK to launch attacks on the Turkish military and
civilian populations Turkish nationalists see Kurdish aspirations
inside its borders and outside as a threat to while Turkish state identity
remember I mentioned how back in the 1930s Kurds were barred in Turkey from
speaking their own language and practicing your own culture well it was
only in 2012 that they were allowed to teach their own language and culture in
private schools then there’s Iran Iran also has no
interest in seeing an independent Kurdish state given its own Kurdish
population in the country’s Northwest as well as its relationship with Iraq
currently Iran has very close relations with the Iraqi government seeing it as a
buffer between itself and hostile regional neighbors a Kurdish state that
would be seen as friendly to the United States and Israel isn’t exactly the most
tantalizing thought for the Iranians then we’ve got Iraq and Syria both
embroiled in conflict following the Krenim the Iraqi government responded by
launching an offensive to take the city of Kirkuk which had been under Kurush
control since 2014 who waste by the way says that Kirkuk is central to Kurdish
statehood a vital part of any kurdish project for
statehood not only because of its wealth and its oil which is actually very
important for for any any kurdish state especially economically but also
historically worse thing without per cube a quarter state would be very poor
even culturally then there syria workers have seen some reforms in recent years
and workers forces have been integral in the battle against Isis in 2011 as
protests were spreading across Syria the government granted around 300,000
undocumented Kurds citizenship citizenship that was stripped back in
1962 but serious Kurds are seeking a federal system in the country similar to
Iraqi Kurdistan’s autonomous as for the Americans while they’ve
supported the Kurds throughout the decades they don’t actually support a
Kurdish state according to the official line a Kurdish state in Iraq where the
movement is the strongest who would mean further destabilization of a vital US
ally but its closest ally in the region Israel has actually been vocally
supportive of an independent Kurdish state Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
sees Kurdistan as a potential ally for Israel in a region where it feels
surrounded by well not that many allies so what is the likelihood of there being
a Kurdish state anytime soon or at all well according to ways not too likely
Kurds have realized without have seeking support from their regional and
international powers it’s almost impossible to build a state especially
that Kurdistan is a small region and it’s landlocked surrounded by hostile
countries so for that it’s very difficult to build a state without
building a strong diplomatic approaches it’s also worth noting that not all
Kurdish populations follow the Iraqi Kurdish movement for independence per se
when you look at other parts of Kurdistan for instance the Turkish part
the Syrian part in both parts – Kurdish nationalist movement is not asking for
independence actually they are seeking a solution within the existing borders so
they are trying to democratize the state so that no curse would have a favorable
environment and as the QG also says that lack of political cohesion is because of
weak leadership it has a lot to do with the fragmentation of the Kurdish society
along tribal regional and linguistic lines and again the inability of the
Kurdish leadership to bring all the segments together to create one voice
which would carry the curse – initially the Kurds have a long history of not
only marginalization but of resisting that marginalization but given how the
Kurdistan region is surrounded by hostile countries lacks political
cohesion and even agreement on the nation’s future it’s not very likely
that the world’s largest nation without a state will be getting one anytime soon
so we barely scratched the surface when it comes to the Kurdish independence
movement encouraged politics in general let us know in the comments what other
communities that are searching for homeland you want to know about and
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100 thoughts on “Why Don’t Syria, Iran, Iraq And Turkey Want A Kurdistan? | AJ+


  2. Do one on the pashtoons killings and freedom fighters in Pakistan please. As well the discrimination against them In Afghanistan

  3. Orospu çocukları Türkiye'nin toprağınımı böleceğinizi sanıyorsunuz.Türkiye Türk milleti size kıyameti yaşatır bölemezsiniz buna gücünüz yetmez.


  5. If Iran (my ancestral home)was smart they would support Kurdish separatism. They would look human, undermine USA (which is their kink), and strengthen their proxy state Iraq. Cos if Iraqi Kurdistan Separate Iraq would be more Shia

  6. As per my knowledge.The world's largest ethnic group without a country is tamils not kurds. kindly make ground work & fact checks before posting videos

  7. Kurd nation deserves a sovereign state with their historical geographical boundaries… Best wishes for the brave and lovely people.

  8. Same as Balochistan, it is divided in three countries, Iran pakistan and Afghanistan but it is a nation as a whole, I really really wish there is Balochistan and kurdistan Two new brothers

  9. Everything in the video dreamy. If we die then we leave from our land. You need to kill 70 million people to establish Kurdistan. But the Turkish army is one of the world's top 8 army

  10. I want to know about the Assyrians, the indigenous people of modern day Iraq. The genocides and multiple massacres committed against them by Arabs and Kurds alike simply for having a Christian faith. If anyone deserves a country it is the indigenous Christians that have been eradicated from their ancestral homeland. Kurds don’t have a country because they never belonged to the Fertile Crescent, they come from modern day Iran.

  11. kurds are actually from iranic ethnicity and as a persian, my view on kurds is like if they're my brothers. Love for my kurdish brothers from Iran.

  12. I don't think that islam wanted us to be divide or that every one declears his own state.
    Please stop dividing our countries with your nationalism.
    Rather than dividing place even further how about uniting all the nations together.

  13. I’m from Armenia, and that map is incorrect. We don’t have any Kurds in Armenia. Only Yazidis, but they’re very few and definitely not the majority in the highlighted regions of Armenia on that map.

  14. Think.. If kurds get their country iraq, Turkey, Syria and Iran will lose alot of land.. I dont think any of these countries want to lose land.

  15. It's like a second Israel but actually legitimate.
    Non the less: stop playing with Arab borders.
    No country would want an antagonistic country by it's borders.

  16. I'm an American and I have nothing but love for my Kurdish brothers and sisters and where rojava biji biji Apo biji biji pyd

  17. There are a part of syria and rest and trust me if there was a kurdistan the people around it will kill it

  18. We saw what happens when terrorists want to annex land from countries in Syria and the IS.
    And the PKK YPG is an international operating terror organisation.

  19. I support Kurdish independendence however most of Kurdish men are mad and are liars on the net with women and Even are asking Them Money! In Europe they are not well accepted and for a few of them innocent people are suffering the consequences, I Think Kurdish men should meditate on this, otherwise Will Be expelled from Europe and other countries they asked for help. I have seen and read sadly many cases like This.

  20. actualy u have to say that becouse of the teacher killed in the east of turkey the world 1st women pilot bomb them by the order of atatürk…. kürds dont have to be pitied they tried to have land ı respect them but think like that we got these lands with blood so we have to give up ? just like that idiot propagandas ?

  21. think about that as mercenary ı thought about that there is a oil resourcess which are not hitted by nato ^^

  22. I wish kurdish people get their rights. But can't see why would they ally with Israel,which murders their brothers in Palestine.

  23. you all should know most places in Iraq does not have internet, which means most of the civilians don't even know who or what they are at war with. trust me i lived there for a bit of my child hood.

  24. Why not create them a state near egypt like they should invade kenya massacre the kenyans replace them with Kurds

  25. Maybe it would be in Turkey's best interest to establish a Kurdish state, then carve up other Kurdish parts from Iraq, Syria and Iran.
    Because, that Kurdish state would be a strategic ally for Turkey.
    Also, together with Israel, these three can dominate Middle East.

  26. whats about north african amazigh they dont have a country and im pretty sure there are other ethnic groups without a country its just the united states who wants them so they use them as killing machine

  27. Why do black americans do not have their own state? Or the native americans? Or the north and the south of USA (like the border of 1861)? Because if you are united, you are stronger. Forget independent Kurdistan! Israel wants to divide (divide et impera) – but we need united middle-east.

  28. Funny how Kurds aren't allowed their own state despite constituting a majority in most of the regions that they claim, yet Jews got their own state back in the day despite being a clear minority in Palestine at the time… just because Holocaust.

  29. The info you're giving out is not %100 accurate. Sykes-Picot Agreement divided Kurdistan between three countries: Turkey, Iraq and Syria. Iran formerly known to the West as Persia wasn't part of the agreement as it wasn't part of the Ottoman Empire. The whole Kurdistan was part of Iran until 1600s that Safavid Empire lost a big portion of it in a war to Ottoman Empire. So, the Iranian Kurdistan has been always part of Iran. Kurds are Iranic people and I understand if they want to get independence from Turkey, Iraq or Syria because Arabs and Turkish are not Iranic people. Kurds are Iranians and wherever they are it is Iran!! Persians and Kurds are Aryans and that's why we celebrate Norooz. Long live Iran and Kurdistan!!

  30. You know more than 90% of the people in turkey are mixed kurdish arabian and mongoles they are afraid when they are giving the kurds a nation there is gonna be no turkey they are all kurds they just dont want to mention iraquisch kurds iranian kurds and in turkey espacailly america does not want that there will grow a strong nation so they keep them small hate them but they have to fear the kurds are doing nothing now but they are there and fighting with or without violence for their rights they are even not allowed to talk their own language…

  31. Because Kurdistan is a project of The USA.
    The USA don't wants an alliance between Turkey,Iran,Iraq and Syria therefore they want a Kurdistan.
    Today Turkey,Syria and Iran are allied of Russia and The USA is afraid of this situtation for this reason The USA wants divided these countires.

  32. Dağ domuzlarına Toprak yok, Kürtler Terörist değildir, YPG,PKK teroristtir. Binlerce insanin savasarak,Ölerek aldigi bu kutlu topraklari 3-5 Çapulcuya birakmayiz. Osmanli zamaninda Bunlari Asimile etseydik, Bugun dunyada 1 tane Kürtce konusan insan olmazdi, Kürt kültürü olmazdi. Ama biz bunlari yapmadik. Insanligimizdan yapmadik. Kürtleri Doğu Roma Baskisindan kurtardik. Sonucuna bakin ! Ayrica Irakta Bagimsiz bir Kurdistan kurulursa, Adana antlaşmasina gore Turkiye'nin Mudahale hakki doguyor. Zamaninda Avrupa devletleri imzaladi bu antlaşmayi, Şimdi yaptigimiz mudahaleye kimse bir sey diyemez. Binlerce masum insan olduren serefsizleri, Soysuzlari hicbir sekilde kimse Savunmamalidir.

  33. Jews are disgusting and filthy allahu akbar. – Palestinians

    Kurds… I've never heard of them – Any country opposing Kurdistan

  34. Why don't I get a helpful message from Google about the funding of the media organisation behind this channel when I watch BBC content or Fox News or any other "Western" channel? Surely our friendly tech giants aren't making biased political stances in delivering our media!? 😉

  35. Kurds are racist. Iraq gave them their own place but they bit the hand that fed them and started being racist to Iraqis.

  36. They never had a country they are nomads all of these lands belong to Turks and Arabs Kurds belong back to Persia

  37. This whole region needs to pull itself together and unite. Otherwise, in the next world war, whenever that is they will all be annihilated along with their great greivences and great justifications and great righteousnesses! And honestly, with so much infighting and bickering and oppression, I will find it very difficult to sympathize with them.

  38. Isn't there a template for unity?

    Isn't there a mutual threat for unity?

    Isn't there a common ideology for unity?

    Isn't there a common identity for unity?

    Only you are holding yourselves back. Only you, dear Middle East, will be responsible for the consequences.

  39. That’s all because of agreement between British and franc and Russia also helped them viva Kurdistan we will return what we are before and becoming a country inshallah ✌🏼

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