The National for Tuesday, Oct. 22 — Next steps for minority government, At Issue panel

The National for Tuesday, Oct. 22 — Next steps for minority government, At Issue panel


(*) (*)>>Andrew: TONIGHT, READING CANADA’S NEW POLITICAL MAP AFTER YOUR VOTE. THE SAME PRIME MINISTER BUT WITH LESS POWER AND MORE OBSTACLES. HOW WILL IT WORK?>>Andrew Scheer: WHEN THIS ROSEMARY IS IN OTTAWA AND IAN HAS THE VIEW FROM THE WEST AND ADRIENNE IS IN THE 905.>>>PLUS, WHY THIS MINORITY MIGHT HAVE LEGS. AND WHAT A STRONGER BLOC QUÉBECOIS REALLY WANTS. “AT ISSUE” IS HERE. AND ALSO TONIGHT… STUNNING TESTIMONY IN DONALD TRUMP’S IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.>>>AND THE TORONTO RAPTORS DO THEIR PART FOR NATIONAL UNITY. AFTER THRILLING CANADIANS WITH A SPRINGTIME TITLE, THE TEAM RAISES AN AUTUMN BANNER.>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*) (*)>>>MORE CANADIANS MARKED A CONSERVATIVE BALLOT THAN ANY OTHER, BUT NOT ENOUGH OF THEM AND NOT IN THE RIGHT PLACES FOR THE PARTY TO FORM GOVERNMENT. SO CANADIANS AGAIN HAVE A LIBERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT THIS TIME A MINORITY. NOW THE MORNING AFTER A WIN MAY FEEL LIKE A WIN.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: YOU ARE SENDING OUR LIBERAL TEAM BACK TO WORK.>>Andrew: BUT FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU, IT WILL NOT BE BUSINESS AS USUAL. THE LIBERALS ARE LESS POWERFUL WHICH COULD MEAN MORE FOR THE PARTY THAT CAME FOURTH.>>Jagmeet Singh: THIS GIVES US A CHANCE TO FIGHT FOR THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE LAID OUT.>>Andrew: BUT THIS REVEALS THE CHALLENGE — A MORE DEEPLY DIVIDED CANADA ON POLITICAL AND REGIONAL LINES. IN QUÉBEC, A SWATH OF BLOC BLUE. IN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN, A CONSERVATIVE SEA.>>Andrew Scheer: WE’LL KEEP HOLDING JUSTIN TRUDEAU TO ACCOUNT AND KEEP FIGHTING FOR OUR VALUES AND PRINCIPLES.>>>Andrew: TONIGHT WE’RE IN OTTAWA, QUÉBEC AND THE 905 AND THE WEST REACTION AND AN EYE TO WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE FUTURE. LET’S START IN OTTAWA WHERE, ROSIE, THE HARD WORK OF FIGURING THIS ALL OUT WILL TAKE PLACE.>>Rosemary: BESIDES THE USUAL WORK OF GOVERNMENT, WHICH IS PRETTY IMPORTANT, THERE WILL BE A LOT OF DEAL MAKING FOR THE LIBERALS TO TRY TO GET THINGS DONE, IF NOT TO ACTUALLY SURVIVE AS GOVERNMENT. AND THAT COMES DOWN TO SHEER NUMBERS. THAT’S THE WEST BLOCK THERE BEHIND ME. AND ITS HOME TO THE COVETED 338 SEATS. THE LIBERALS, REMEMBER, THEY WON 157, SO 13 SHY OF THAT MAJORITY. SO THEY NEED SOME FRIENDS IN THIS PARLIAMENT. AND AS DAVID COCHRANE EXPLAINS, THE N.D.P. COULD FILL THAT ROLE.>>Reporter: THE MORNING AFTER THE ELECTION THE CROWDS ARE A LOT SMALLER AND SO IS HIS GOVERNMENT. JUSTIN TRUDEAU WILL FACE A DIVIDED PARLIAMENT BUT A PARLIAMENT THAT LEANS LEFT. AND SENIOR LIBERALS SAY THAT ADVANCING PROGRESSIVE ISSUES IS THE PATH TO MAKING IT WORK. THAT MAY START WITH THE NEWLY DIMINISHED PRIME MINISTER FINDING COMMON GROUND WITH THE NEWLY DIMINISHED NEW DEMOCRATS.>>Jagmeet Singh: EVERYTHING IS ON THE TABLE, I CAN SAY THAT MUCH, THAT WE’RE NOT RULING OUT ANYTHING, BUT WE’RE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE THAT HERE.>>Reporter: SINGH ALREADY SPELLED OUT HIS CONDITIONS FOR SUPPORT DURING THE CAMPAIGN, THE PARTIES CAN LIKELY COME TOGETHER ON ISSUES SUCH AS PHARMACARE, HOUSING AND STUDENT DEBT. BUT SINGH HAS VERY PRACTICAL REASONS TO KEEP THIS PARLIAMENT ALIVE. OVER THREE ELECTIONS, THE N.D.P. HAS PLUMMETED FROM OFFICIAL OPPOSITION TO THE FOURTH PARTY. THEIR HISTORIC BREAKTHROUGH IN QUÉBEC BROKEN BY THE BLOC. (*) THE PARTY ITSELF IS ALSO BROKE. ITS FUNDRAISING HAS LAGGED BEHIND THE OTHERS. IT MORTGAGED THE BUILDING IT OWNS IN DOWNTOWN OTTAWA TO PAY FOR THIS ELECTION, THEY CAN’T AFFORD ANOTHER ONE.>>Jagmeet Singh: WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BUILD ON THAT SUPPORT. WE HAVE BUILT UP A STRONG FOUNDATION AND WE’LL CONTINUE TO WORK HARD.>>Reporter: SO THERE IS A PATH FOR TRUDEAU TO WORK ACROSS THE AISLE, THE PATH FOR FILLING HIS CABINET IS LESS CLEAR. HISTORICALLY EVERY PROVINCE GETS A CABINET MINISTER. BUT THE WIPEOUT IN THE WEST COST TRUDEAU KEY MINISTERS IN AMARJEET SOHI AND RALPH GOODALE.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: TWO CANADIANS IN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN KNOW THAT YOU ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR GREAT COUNTRY. I’VE HEARD YOUR FRUSTRATION AND I WANT TO BE THERE TO SUPPORT YOU.>>Reporter: BUT HOW TO SUPPORT THEM ISN’T CLEAR. THERE ARE NO LIBERALS TO REPLACE THEM IN ALBERTA OR SASKATCHEWAN. THE HISTORIC OPTION OF APPOINTING A SENATOR MAY NOT BE AN OPTION AS TRUDEAU KICKED THE LIBERAL SENATORS OUT OF HIS CAUCUS YEARS AGO AND HAS BEEN APPOINTING INDEPENDENT SENATORS SINCE BECOMING PRIME MINISTER. IT’S A HANDCUFF OF HIS OWN CREATION, JUST AS THE VOTERS HAVE ADDED NEW RESTRAINTS. DAVID COCHRANE, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Rosemary: NOW ANDREW SCHEER FACES A DIFFERENT CHALLENGE, JUST FIGHTING HIS FAILURE TO KNOCK OUT A PRIME MINISTER MADE VULNERABLE BY CONTROVERSY. TODAY KATIE SIMPSON WAS THERE AS THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER PLAYEDED UP WHAT HE DID ACHIEVE.>>Reporter: ANDREW SCHEER HAS NO TIME TO CATCH HIS BREATH. AFTER A GRUELING 40-DAY CAMPAIGN, THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER IS BRACING FOR POSSIBLE ATTACKS FROM WITHIN.>>Andrew Scheer: I AM STAYING AS LEADER OF THE PARTY. WE OBVIOUSLY ARE VERY HAPPY WITH THE MANY ASPECTS OF THE CAMPAIGN. WE, OBVIOUSLY, WE WISHED THAT WE HAD BETTER RESULTS BUT WE POINT TO THE FACT THAT WE WON THE POPULAR VOTE.>>Reporter: TO PREVENT A LEADERSHIP CHALLENGE, SCHEER IS SPINNING HIS LOSS AS “NOT SO BAD,” HIGHLIGHTING THE FACT THAT HIS PARTY MADE SEAT GAINS AND IMPROVED ITS OVERALL POPULARITY.>>Andrew Scheer: MORE CANADIANS SUPPORTED MY PLATFORM AND OUR TEAM LAST NIGHT THAN ANY OTHER PARTY.>>THANK YOU.>>Reporter: BUT THAT POPULARITY IS ROOTED IN LOPSIDED WINS IN ALBERTA AND SASKATCHEWAN. HE FELL FLAT IN ONTARIO AND QUÉBEC, THE TWO PROVINCES WHERE THE PATH TO VICTORY IS SHAPED.>>WE NEED TO FOCUS ON MOVING FORWARD AND HOW TO ACTUALLY MAKE SURE THAT WE’RE REACHING OUT TO THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT MAY NOT HAVE VOTED CONSERVATIVE THIS TIME AROUND.>>Reporter: SCHEER MAY BE FEELING DEFENSIVE, SINCE DURING THE FINAL STRETCH OF THE CAMPAIGN THAT PARTY INSIDERS OPENLY SPECULATED THAT FORMER CABINET MINISTER PETER MacKAY COULD BE CONVINCED TO TAKE A RUN AT THE LEADERSHIP. BUT IF SCHEER’S FOCUS ON THE POSITIVE RESONATES, HE COULD SURVIVE.>>I THINK THAT MR. SCHEER DID ENOUGH TO KEEP HIS LEADERSHIP INTACT. I THINK THAT THERE’S A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES WHO MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LITTLE DISAPPOINTED LAST NIGHT, BUT IF THEY WERE HONEST WITH THEMSELVES THAT’S THE OUTCOME THAT MOST OF US — TWO YEARS AGO WE THOUGHT THAT JUSTIN TRUDEAU WOULD STEAMROLL TO ANOTHER MAJORITY GOVERNMENT.>>Reporter: SCHEER AND HIS TEAM WILL NOW DO A DEEP DIVE ON WHAT WENT WRONG AND WHY, PARTICULARLY IN QUÉBEC AND ONTARIO. IF THEY CAN’T ADDRESS THOSE CHALLENGES, THERE WILL BE VERY LITTLE ROOM FOR THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY TO GROW ITS SUPPORT. KATIE SIMPSON, CBC NEWS, REGINA.>>Rosemary: NOW, OF COURSE, MANAGING A MINORITY GOVERNMENT WON’T BE THE ONLY CHALLENGE FOR THE PRIME MINISTER. HE ALSO WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH A STRONG COLLECTION OF CONSERVATIVE PREMIERS, MANY OF WHOM OPPOSE HIS POLICIES, ESPECIALLY ON THE CARBON TAX. ALREADY TODAY JUSTIN TRUDEAU FACED FRESH DEMANDS.>>LISTEN, THERE IS FRUSTRATION HERE IN THE PRAIRIE PROVINCES.>>Rosemary: SASKATCHEWAN PREMIER SCOTT MOE WANTS A NEW DEAL FOR HIS PROVINCE.>>WE’RE AT A CROSSROADS IN IN OUR NATION, IF YOU WILL. AND THAT IS DUE TO THE POLICY THAT THE PRIME MINISTER HAS PUT FORWARD AND WE’RE ASKING HIM TO CHANGE THAT COURSE.>>Rosemary: ALBERTA’S JASON KENNEY SAID THAT HE’D WORK WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IF THE PRIME MINISTER COMMITS TO COMPLETING THE PIPELINE EXPANSION.>>IF HE WANTS TO STRENGTHEN NATIONAL UNITY AND THE CANADIAN ECONOMY, THEN HE NEEDS TO LISTEN TO THE PROVINCES THAT PRODUCE A DISPROPORTIONATE AMOUNT OF WEALTH IN THE FEDERATION.>>Rosemary: BUT MANITOBA PREMIER, BRIAN PALLISTER, NOT EXACTLY A FRIEND OF THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT, SAYS THAT HE’S READY TO WORK TO TEMPER WESTERN FRUSTRATION.>>WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE COUNTRY WORK, WE WILL WORK TOGETHER ON IT. WE MAKE A COMMITMENT TO IT. IT’S A RELATIONSHIP.>>Rosemary: SO, ANDREW, OBVIOUSLY SOME OF THE PREMIERS BELIEVE THEY HAVE A LITTLE MORE LEVERAGE WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAN THEY HAD JUST YESTERDAY. THEY’RE GOING TO TRY TO USE IT. I SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT, ANDREW, THAT THE PRIME MINISTER SPENT MUCH OF THE DAY CALLING PREMIERS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT HE WAS ON THE RIGHT TRACK WITH THEM.>>Andrew: OKAY, ROSIE. AND YOU’LL BE BACK WITH “AT ISSUE” IN ABOUT 15 MINUTES’ TIME AND WE’RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.>>>LET’S STAY IN WESTERN CANADA AND THAT FRUSTRATION THAT YOU HEARD FROM THE PREMIERS IS QUITE APPARENT IN THE RESULTS. TAKE A LOOK — THE CONSERVATIVES COMPLETELY SHUT OUT THE LIBERALS IN SASKATCHEWAN AND ALBERTA. AND ASIDE FROM ONE SPECK OF ORANGE IN THE RIDING OF EDMONTON-STRATHCONA, IT WAS A BLUE SWEEP. NOW IAN BROUGHT US THOSE ALBERTA RESULTS LAST NIGHT BUT TONIGHT HE’S BACK IN THE WEST AT HOME IN VANCOUVER. IAN?>>Ian: ANDREW, B.C. IS ANOTHER WESTERN PROVINCE WHERE THE CONSERVATIVES PICKED UP SEATS IN METRO VANCOUVER AND IN THE INTERIOR. THAT’S THE EASTERN PART OF BRITISH COLUMBIA THAT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO THE ALBERTA BORDER. AND IN THAT PROVINCE THE RESULTS MAKE IT CLEAR HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THE ECONOMY, THE PAST FOUR YEARS, AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE FUTURE. CAROLYN DUNN SPOKE TO VOTERS THERE TODAY.>>Reporter: TO SAY PEOPLE IN DEVON, ALBERTA, ARE ANGRY TODAY IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. THE PERSPECTIVE AMONG MOST HERE IS THAT THE COUNTRY HAS AGAIN VOTED IN A GOVERNMENT THAT IS HOSTILE TO OIL AND GAS, DISMISSIVE OF THE PROVINCE.>>I AM ASHAMED OF CANADA. I’M ASHAMED OF CANADIANS RIGHT NOW.>>I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW THERE’S A LOT OF EMOTION AND PASSION. PERSONALLY I’M NOT GOING TO STOP THE FIGHT. I TOOK MY CANADA FLAG DOWN THIS MORNING IN MY BACKYARD.>>Reporter: #WEXIT WAS TRENDING ON SOCIAL MEDIA. THAT STANDS FOR “WESTERN EXIT,” THOUGH IT’S DRIVEN MOSTLY BY ALBERTANS. IT WAS CATCHING ON FIRE ON TALK RADIO TOO.>>WELL, WE’RE NOT GETTING INTO THIS CONFEDERATION AT THE MOMENT. I THINK THAT WE’RE GOING TO REALLY TALK ABOUT A SERIOUS CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY.>>Reporter: THIS POLITICAL SCIENTIST WONDERS IF ALL OF THIS TALK COULD LEAD TO A CHANGE IN ALBERTA’S POLITICAL LANDSCAPE.>>DO YOU SEE AN ALBERTA FIRST TYPE PARTY THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE’RE NOT GOING TO SEPARATE, WE JUST WANT THE AUTONOMY THAT QUÉBEC IS ADVOCATING?>>Reporter: IN THE SHORT TERM ALBERTANS ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT ON THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY AND ITS PIPELINE PROJECTS.>>WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE PIPELINE, WHETHER IT SITS UNDEVELOPED OR IF IT GETS SOLD OR IF IT GETS DEVELOPED IMPROPERLY.>>YEAH, PEOPLE ARE PRETTY SHAKEN UP I THINK.>>I DEFINITELY DO THINK THEY NEED TO PAY MORE ATTENTION TO THE WEST. I THINK THAT PEOPLE GET PRETTY UPSET ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE VOTES OVER EAST COUNT FOR SO MUCH MORE.>>Reporter: BUT IT’S NOT ALL GLOOM AND DOOM.>>THE REALITY IS THAT CANADA IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE AND WE TAKE OUR LUMPS, IT’S ONLY FOUR YEARS. WE’LL FIGURE IT OUT AND MOVE ON.>>Reporter: FOUR YEARS AT THE MOST. NO MATTER HOW LONG THE GOVERNMENT LASTS, PLENTY OF TIME FOR ANGER AND A GROWING SENSE OF FRUSTRATION TO DISSIPATE OR FESTER. CAROLYN DUNN, CBC NEWS, CALGARY.>>Ian: HERE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA, THE ELECTION STORY WAS HIGHLIGHTED BY THREE PROMINENT WINNERS. ONE IS A HIGH-PROFILE FORMER CABINET MINISTER AND TWO PARTY LEADERS FOR WHOM THE RESULTS WERE BITTERSWEET.>>IT WAS PRETTY INCREDIBLE. AND I’M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT WE PUT IN.>>Ian: HIS VOICE WAS HOARSE AFTER A LONG CAMPAIGN. JAGMEET SINGH WON HIS SEAT BUT THE N.D.P. LOST 15, MOST IN QUÉBEC.>>Jagmeet Singh: WE’RE NEVER GOING TO GIVE UP, NEVER GIVE UP ON QUÉBEC.>>Ian: AND SINGH FEELS NO PRESSURE TO QUIT.>>Jagmeet Singh: NOT AT ALL.>>Ian: B.C. IS ALSO HOME TO THE GREEN PARTY LEADER AND ELIZABETH MAY HAD HIGH HOPES.>>Elizabeth May: THE CHANCES THAT WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ALL SEVEN SEATS ON VANCOUVER ISLAND ARE EXCELLENT.>>Ian: IN THE END THEY HELD TWO, PLUS GAINED ONE IN NEW BRUNSWICK.>>Elizabeth May: I THINK THAT AS A RESULT OF THIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN THAT WE HAVE MANY MORE PEOPLE WHO COULD SEE THEMSELVES IN LEADERSHIP ROLES.>>Ian: THE SURPRISE OF THE NIGHT WAS HERE IN VANCOUVER. THAT LITTLE GREY SPOT, THE RIDING OF VANCOUVER-GRANVILLE, NOW HOME TO THE COUNTRY’S SOLE INDEPENDENT M.P., JODY WILSON-RAYBOULD. OF COURSE WILSON-RAYBOULD WAS A CENTRAL FIGURE IN THE SNC-LAVALIN AFFAIR AND AS SHE RETURNS TO OTTAWA AND WITH A MINORITY GOVERNMENT WE’LL BE WATCHING TO SEE IF THE OPPOSITION TRIES TO PUT THAT ISSUE BACK ON THE POLITICAL AGENDA. FOR NOW, BACK TO ANDREW IN TORONTO.>>Andrew: OKAY, IAN. SO HERE’S THE QUESTION — WHAT DOES THIS ELECTION RESULT MEAN FOR YOU? THE LIBERALS MADE PROMISES THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN TO MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE FOR CANADIANS. PETER ARMSTRONG TAKES A LOOK AT HOW SOME KEY PROMISES MIGHT BECOME REALITY IN THIS NEW POLITICAL LANDSCAPE.>>Reporter: EVEN THIS MINORITY GOVERNMENT WILL HAVE A MAJOR FOCUS ON YOUR POCKETBOOK. (*) ONE KEY LIBERAL PLATFORM PROMISE WOULD CUT TAXES FOR CANADIANS IN THE LOWEST TAX BRACKET. THEY SAY THAT THE MEASURE WOULD PULL 40,000 CANADIANS OUT OF POVERTY AND SAVE THE TYPICAL FAMILY $585 A YEAR. THE CONSERVATIVES HAD A SIMILAR POLICY, SO THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD ENJOY SUPPORT. THE LIBERALS WILL PROBABLY PUSH AHEAD WITH PROMISES TO LOWER CELLPHONE BILLS. AND THE DETAILS ARE VAGUE, BUT THE LIBERALS VOWED TO CUT BILLS BY 25% WITHIN FOUR YEARS.>>Rt. Hon. Justin Trudeau: YOU ARE SENDING OUR LIBERAL TEAM BACK TO WORK, BACK TO OTTAWA, WITH A CLEAR MANDATE. WE WILL MAKE LIFE MORE AFFORDABLE. (*)>>Reporter: IT’S EASY ENOUGH TO FIND COMMON GROUND, THOUGH THE N.D.P. AND THE LIBERALS HAD PLANS TO GIVE A BREAK TO THOSE WITH STUDENT LOANS. THE N.D.P. PROMISED TO REMOVE ALL INTEREST ON FEDERAL STUDENT DEBT, THE LIBERALS PROMISED TO INCREASE CANADA’S STUDENT GRANTS AND GIVE STUDENTS MORE TIME TO REPAY THOSE LOANS. BOTH LEFT-LEANING PARTIES PROMISED TO CREATE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF NEW CHILD CARE SPACES.>>Jagmeet Singh: I’M HOPING THAT MR. TRUDEAU RESPECTS THE FACT THAT THERE’S A MINORITY GOVERNMENT NOW, WHICH MEANS THAT WE’VE GOT TO WORK TOGETHER. (*)>>Reporter: POLITICS CAN BE UGLY AND DIVISIVE, BUT HOPE ALWAYS SEEMS PERCHED ON A NOT-TOO-DISTANT HORIZON. THE MAJORITY OF M.P.s IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS SUPPORT THE BASIC IDEA OF A NATIONAL PHARMACARE PROGRAMME. TRUDEAU MADE SOME VAGUE PROMISES TOWARD IMPLEMENTING PHARMACARE. IT WOULD BE UNWIELDILY AND IMMENSELY COMPLICATED JUST TO GET SUPPORT AMONG FEDERAL PARTIES. AND THEN THE GOVERNMENT WOULD HAVE TO NEGOTIATE A DEAL WITH THE PROVINCES. IF YOU THINK THAT THE COMMONS IS DIVIDED, JUST LOOK AT THE POLITICAL MAP OF THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW. PETER ARMSTRONG, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Andrew: OKAY, WE’RE BACK IN TWO MINUTES WITH MORE ELECTION COVERAGE. “AT ISSUE” IS STANDING BY. WE’LL ALSO HEAD TO QUÉBEC WHERE THE BLOC HAD A BIG NIGHT BUT HOW MUCH POWER WILL THEY HAVE IN OTTAWA?>>>AND UP NEXT, WE’LL HEAD OUT TO THE RIDINGS SURROUNDING TORONTO, THE 905. ADRIENNE?>>Adrienne: ANDREW, I’M IN MISSISSAUGA TONIGHT. VOTERS HERE AND ACROSS THIS AREA PAVED THE WAY FOR THAT LIBERAL VICTORY. JUST ONE RIDING CHANGED HANDS. WE’LL TAKE YOU THERE. WE’RE BACK IN TWO. (*)>>Adrienne: WELCOME BACK. I’M STANDING IN ONE OF THE BATTLEGROUNDS THAT HELPED TO CLINCH JUSTIN TRUDEAU’S MINORITY VICTORY. MISSISSAUGA IS PART OF THE 905, NAMED FOR THE AREA CODE OUTSIDE OF TORONTO. THESE 31 RIDINGS, DENSELY PACKED WITH VOTERS, WERE HEAVILY COURTED BY EVERY PARTY RUNNING HERE.>>Andrew Scheer: I WANT TO ASK YOU — ARE WE GOING TO WIN BRAMPTON NORTH? [Cheers and Applause]>>Adrienne: AFTER ALL, THE 905 WAS KEY TO STEPHEN HARPER’S MAJORITY. FOUR YEARS AGO TRUDEAU LIBERALS CLAIMED 23 OF THESE RIDINGS AND THEN LAST NIGHT ONLY ONE SEAT FLIPPED. SNATCHED AWAY FROM CONSERVATIVES. LISA RAITT, A FORMER CABINET MINISTER AND A DEPUTY PARTY LEADER, WAS PUSHED ASIDE BY ADAM van KOEVERDEN, AN OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALLIST TURNED LIBERAL M.P.-ELECT. SWING VOTERS THROUGHOUT THE 905 DECIDED NOT TO SWING THIS TIME AROUND, SO TODAY WE WANTED TO FIND OUT WHY. (*) WHEN “THE NATIONAL” CHECKED IN WITH THE RADIO STATION A FEW WEEKS AGO, THE CHATTER WAS ALL ABOUT DOUG FORD. THE QUESTION OF WHETHER PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HIM PROVINCIALLY WOULD SO REGRET IT NOW THAT THEY’D STEER CLEAR OF FEDERAL CONSERVATIVES. THAT WAS AMEET SINGH’S PREDICTION THEN AND HE’S SURE THAT IT CAME TRUE. THEY SAW THIS BEFORE?>>THEY HAVE, AND THEY SAW THE ENDING OF THAT MOVIE AND THEY DIDN’T LIKE IT, SO THAT’S THE REASON THAT THINGS WENT THE WAY THEY WENT.>>Adrienne: FOR THE AUDIENCES CALLING IN TODAY –>>I MYSELF WAS VERY SURPRISED BUT I DO KNOW THAT I FEEL LIKE THAT FEAR PLAYED A HUGE FACTOR IN THIS.>>Adrienne: THE TALK WASN’T HOW THE LIBERALS EARNED VOTES HERE BUT HOW THE CONSERVATIVES FAILED TO CAPTURE THEM. DARSHAN MARWAJA, AN ACCOUNTANT, THOUGHT THAT THE SOCIALLY AND FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE VOTERS HERE WOULD CHOOSE DIFFERENTLY. HE MAINTAINS THAT THE PARTY WAS COMPLACENT.>>THEY COULD HAVE MADE A BETTER EFFORT, MAYBE SELECTED BETTER CANDIDATES. AND GONE ABOUT THEIR CAMPAIGNING IN A DIFFERENT STYLE.>>THE BASIC KNOCKING ON DOORS APPROACH?>>ABSOLUTELY.>>Adrienne: DOOR KNOCKING MIGHT BE WHAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE FOR LIBERAL ADAM van KOEVERDEN IN THE RIDING OF MILTON. THAT HE WOULD UNSEAT LISA RAITT, VYING FOR A FOURTH TERM, IS HARDLY EXPECTED. THE SCALE OF HIS WIN BY SOME 8,000 VOTES TOOK EVEN HIM ABACK.>>WHAT SURPRISED ME YESTERDAY WAS THE MARGINS. WE WERE, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON A CAMPAIGN THAT WOULD BE WON OR LOST BY HUNDREDS OF VOTES. PEOPLE CAME OUT TO VOTE. AND PEOPLE PUT THEIR CONFIDENCE IN ME.>>I SEEN ADAM’S PEOPLE CAME AROUND TO THE DIFFERENT HOMES AND I DIDN’T SEE NOBODY FROM HER PARTY COMING AROUND. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A DIFFERENCE.>>Adrienne: GOOD SPOT FOR van KOEVERDEN TO HAVE A MORNING COFFEE, LARGELY WELCOMED AND SUPPORTED BY PEOPLE WHO KEPT TELLING HIM THAT HIS ENTHUSIASM MADE THE DIFFERENCE.>>I THINK THAT THINGS COULD HAVE BECOME STEAL AND SHE’D BEEN IN HER POSITION FOR SO LONG THAT PEOPLE WANTED A CHANGE. AND HE’S YOUNG, HE’S ENTHUSIASTIC.>>Adrienne: SO THIS IS ABOUT A LOCAL –>>YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS A DECISION TO BE MADE LOCALLY.>>Adrienne: FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS AT WORK HERE, THAT THE VOTES HAVE TO BE EARNED. PEOPLE IN THE 905 KNOW THE HEFT OF THEIR RIDING AND HAD EXPECTATIONS OF THE CANDIDATES. THEY DON’T AND THEY WON’T FORGIVE WHEN POLITICIANS DON’T DELIVER. THE EXPECTATION TO DELIVER WILL BE EVERYWHERE, INCLUDING IN QUÉBEC. VOTERS THERE HAD A BIG IS LAST NIGHT, BUT JUST AS THE 905 HELP HELPED THE LIBERALS TO STAY IN POWER, QUÉBEC’S SURGE FOR THE BLOC MAY HAVE STYMIED A SECOND MAJORITY. ALISON NORTHCOTT EXPLAINS.>>[Speaking French] [Applause]>>Reporter: WE’VE COME A LONG WAY, BLOC QUÉBECOIS LEADER YVES-FRANCOIS BLANCHET SAID LAST NIGHT, BUT WE WILL GO EVEN FURTHER. THE BLOC’S CAMPAIGN FOCUSED MORE ON A REENERGIZED QUÉBEC NATIONALISM THAN SOVEREIGNTY. BLANCHET ALIGNED HIMSELF WITH QUÉBEC’S POPULAR PREMIER FRANÇOIS LEGAULT, PROMISING TO DEFEND IN OTTAWA THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENT’S DECISIONS ON LANGUAGE, CULTURE AND VALUES. TODAY LEGAULT REPEATED ONE OF HIS MAIN DEMANDS TO JUSTIN TRUDEAU — DON’T INTERFERE WITH QUÉBEC’S SECULARISM LAW, BILL 21.>>THE MESSAGE IS CLEAR THAT IF YOU WANT NEXT TIME MORE SUPPORT, SUPPORT THE BILL 21.>>Reporter: BLANCHET SAYS THAT THE BLOC CAN HAVE INFLUENCE IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS, EVEN IF THE LIBERALS DON’T NEED HIS PARTY SUPPORT TO GOVERN.>>I WILL HAVE TO INVITE YOU TO WATCH CLOSELY HOW THE THINGS WILL DEVELOP IN COMMITTING MONTHS. I EXPECT US TO HAVE QUITE A GOOD LEVERAGE.>>WHEN YOU HAVE 32 SEATS OUT OF 78, YOU HAVE LEVERAGE. BUT NOW IT HAS TO APPLY THAT LEVERAGE. AND HOW YVES-FRANCOIS BLANCHET AND THE BLOC QUÉBECOIS WILL BE APPLYING THAT LEVERAGE IS STILL A MYSTERY.>>Reporter: BLANCHET SAYS THAT OIL PIPELINES ARE MORALLY UNACCEPTABLE AND WON’T ACCEPT ONE GOING THROUGH QUÉBEC ON. SOVEREIGNTY HE SAID THAT THE BLOC WON’T PUSH FOR INDEPENDENCE NOW, THAT WILL COME FROM QUÉBECERS WHEN THEY’RE READY. THIS BLOC M.P. SAYS THAT THE PARTY’S STRENGTH COMES FROM ITS NEWLY REGAINED OFFICIAL PARTY STATUS.>>FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TO BEG FOR A PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY, TO BEG THE RIGHTS TO MAYBE CHANGE SOMETHING IN THE BILL AND MOST OF THE TIME IT WAS JUST NO.>>Reporter: BLANCHET SAYS THAT HE WANTS THE PRIME MINISTER TO RECONVENE PARLIAMENT QUICKLY SO HE AND HIS M.P.s CAN GET TO WORK ON QUÉBEC ISSUES. ALISON NORTHCOTT, CBC NEWS, MONTRÉAL.>>Adrienne: LATER WE’RE GOING TO TURN OUR “MOMENT” OVER TO YOU, THE VOTER. WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM THIS MINORITY GOVERNMENT? FOR NOW THOUGH, BACK TO OTTAWA AND ROSIE.>>Rosemary: THANKS, ADRIENNE. NOW THEY’VE HAD A DAY TO DIGEST THE RESULTS THE “AT ISSUE” PANEL CAN’T WAIT TO WEIGH IN AGAIN. WHERE DOES JUSTIN TRUDEAU GO FROM HERE? THEY ARE UP NEXT. (*) (*)>>Rosemary: A MINORITY GOVERNMENT BRINGS, OF COURSE, A NEW REALITY FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU, ONE WITH NEW CHALLENGES IN A MORE DIVIDED COUNTRY. SO HOW WILL HE GOVERN? “AT ISSUE” IS BACK FOR A SPECIAL TUESDAY EDITION AFTER A MARATHON ELECTION SPECIAL. WE SHOULD HAVE JUST SPENT THE WHOLE NIGHT TOGETHER, GUYS. CHANTAL HEBERT AND ANDREW COYNE AND ALTHIA RAJ, THEY ARE ALL STILL IN TORONTO TONIGHT AND I’M HERE BACK IN OTTAWA. THANKS AGAIN FOR BEING HERE AGAIN TONIGHT. SO LET’S START WITH HOW JUSTIN TRUDEAU IS GOING TO APPROACH THIS. AND WHETHER WHAT WE’VE SEEN OF HIM IN THE PAST AS PRIME MINISTER GIVES US ANY SORT OF INDICATIONS ABOUT HOW HE WOULD APPROACH A MINORITY GOVERNMENT THIS TIME. ANDREW, I’LL START WITH YOU.>>I DON’T THINK THAT WE’VE SEEN A GREAT DEAL, I MEAN, HE HASN’T HAD THIS SITUATION IN THE PAST. I DON’T THINK THAT ON HIS TRACK RECORD THAT CONCILIATION AND MEDIATION IS NECESSARILY HIS STRONG POINT. AND HE’S IN A DIFFERENT WORLD THAN WHEN HE COULD HAVE EDICTS AND HIS MAJORITY WOULD PASS IT. SO HE’S GOT TO DEAL NOT ONLY WITH A PARLIAMENT UNLIKE ANYTHING THAT HE’S SEEN BEFORE, BUT PARTLY BECAUSE HE’S SO WEAKENED AND A MUCH STRONGER OPPOSITION IN THE PROVINCE AS WELL. PEOPLE SMELL BLOOD IN THE TRADITIONAL POLITICAL WAY, AND YOU CAN SEE HIS OPPONENTS CIRCLING AROUND. THIS IS GOING TO TEST ALL OF HIS POLITICAL SKILLS.>>Rosemary: OKAY, WELL, I’LL GET TO THE PROMISES IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE THEY WERE ALL CERTAINLY SHARPENING THEIR KNIVES TODAY. ALTHIA, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT WE KNOW OF JUSTIN TRUDEAU AND HOW — HOW THAT MIGHT INDICATE HOW HE’S GOING TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS?>>I THINK THAT THERE’S A PART OF HIM THAT LIKES TO BE CAPTAIN CANADA. AND WE SAW THAT IN THIS LAST BIT OF THE ELECTION WITH HIM GOING TO CALGARY, FOR EXAMPLE. NOT A PLACE THAT LIBERALS REALLY THOUGHT REALISTICALLY THEY WOULD WIN SEATS BUT THEY WANTED TO SEND A MESSAGE. SO I THINK HE’S GOING TO — AND I SAY THIS PERHAPS LIKE HOPEFULLY — TO TRY TO BRING THE COUNTRY TOGETHER BECAUSE WE DIDN’T SEE THAT IN THE SPEECH LAST NIGHT. I DON’T THINK THAT HE NEEDS TO FORM A COALITION OR A TYPE OF FIXED AGREEMENT WITH ANY OF THE PARTIES IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS. HIS MINORITY IS ACTUALLY PRETTY STRONG. AND CASE-BY-CASE YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE N.D.P., THE GREENS, EVEN THE BLOC, WOULD HAVE AN INTEREST IN SUPPORTING HIS AGENDA. I WOULD HAVE SAID THAT EVEN THE CONSERVATIVES, EXCEPT FOR MR. SCHEER’S SPEECH EARLIER TODAY. IT DOESN’T SEEM THAT MR. SCHEER WANTS TO WORK WITH JUSTIN TRUDEAU AT ALL. SO I WOULD BE SURPRISED THAT THE CONSERVATIVES ACTUALLY SUPPORT SOME OF THE LEGISLATION WHERE, FRANKLY, THERE’S KIND OF AN OVERLAP IN THEIR PLATFORMS. YOU KNOW, LIKE ON MATERNITY BENEFITS, FOR EXAMPLE. YOU COULD SEE A SCENARIO WHERE PERHAPS THE CONSERVATIVES COULD COME ONSIDE, BUT I DON’T SEE THAT AT THE MOMENT.>>Rosemary: CHANTAL, AFTER A LITTLE BIT OF SLEEP, HAVE YOU HAD MORE THOUGHTS ON HOW JUSTIN TRUDEAU MIGHT APPROACH ALL OF THIS?>>I THINK THAT HE WAS LUCKY THAT THE N.D.P. GOT ENOUGH SEATS THAT THE TWO OF THEM TOGETHER ACTUALLY WORK OUT TO A MAJORITY WHICH BASICALLY MEANS THAT HE DOESN’T HAVE TO WAKE UP EVERY MORNING WONDERING WHAT THE BLOC QUÉBECOIS IS THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING. AND THAT MAKES HIS LIFE A BIT EASIER. IN THE PAST THE CAUCUS MANAGEMENT — WHEN YOU HAVE A MINORITY GOVERNMENT — IT’S TENDED TO BECOME A BIT EASIER BECAUSE MOST MEMBERS DO NOT WANT TO GO IN AN ELECTION AND I CAN NAME ONE PREMIER — BILL DAVIS — WHO HAD THE MINORITY GOVERNMENT, TWO IN A ROW, ACTUALLY, WHO ENJOYED IT MORE. IT KEPT THE MORE EXTREME ELEMENTS OF HIS CAUCUS IN LINE, THAN THE MAJORITY RULE WHICH HE FOUND A BIT BORING. SO I THINK THAT THERE’S PLENTY OF GROUNDS IN THIS PARLIAMENT FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU, IF HE DOES WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO, TO MAKE IT WORK AND TO MAKE IT WORK FOR A LONG TIME. THE N.D.P. AND THE GREEN PARTY, THE BLOC, NONE OF THEM IS KEEN TO GO BACK TO AN ELECTION AND TO LOSE THAT POSITION OF INFLUENCE. THEY’RE ALL BROKE. AND THERE IS, FRANKLY, NO — UNLESS YOU MANUFACTURE IT, NO REAL REASON FOR THAT TO HAPPEN. THE CONSERVATIVES, YES, ARE UNDER ANDREW SCHEER AND ARE SAYING WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY’RE SAYING, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY NO MINORITY GOVERNMENT DEPENDS ON THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION TO SURVIVE.>>CAN I JUST ADD SOMETHING? I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT YVES-FRANCOIS BLANCHET, THE BLOC LEADER TODAY, ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT HOW A MANDATE IS FOUR YEARS. AND HE PERSONALLY DOESN’T SEE WHY THE MINORITY GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT LAST FOUR YEARS. AND WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT, LIKE TWO YEARS, BECAUSE THAT’S USUALLY WHAT IT IS. BUT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT HE WAS LIKE, NOPE, YOUR MANDATE SHOULD BE FOUR YEARS AND YOU SHOULD STAY THERE FOR FOUR YEARS.>>AND AS A SENIOR LIBERAL TOLD US IN REUTERS TODAY THAT THERE’S A LOT OF M.P.s WHO NEED TWO MORE YEARS TO GET THEIR SIX-YEAR PENSION ELIGIBILITY. [laughter]>>Rosemary: NOT A SMALL THING, NOT A SMALL THING, THAT’S RIGHT.>>WHAT YOU WILL ALSO SEE, OF COURSE, IS THAT NO ONE WANTS TO BE SEEN, ESPECIALLY AS EAGER FOR ANOTHER ELECTION. SO EVERYONE WILL PROFESS THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK TOGETHER AND IT’S ONLY BECAUSE OF THE OTHER PARTY THAT I’M FORCED TO DO THIS — WHATEVER THIS MEASURE IS.>>Rosemary: THOUGH THE CONSERVATIVE LEADER DID SOUND A BIT CHOMPING AT THE BILT TODAY. — BIT TODAY. AND I DON’T THINK THAT’S A REAL THING BUT HE DID SUGGEST TODAY THAT THEY WOULD BE READY TO TAKE HIM DOWN, THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP TO FORMING GOVERNMENT. I DON’T KNOW IF THAT’S — IF THAT’S JUST RHETORIC OR IF THERE’S SOMETHING MORE THERE TO UNDERSTAND?>>LET’S UNDERSTAND THAT ANDREW SCHEER IS NOW FIGHTING A BATTLE ON TWO FRONTS. YES, HE IS THE OFFICIAL OPPOSITION AND A MINORITY PARLIAMENT, BUT HE IS ALSO A LEADER WHO HAS NOT DELIVERED THE KIND OF RESULTS THAT A LOT OF THE MEMBERS HAD HOPED FOR. AND IT IS IN HIS BEST INTEREST TO KEEP THE PARTY THINKING, AND I DON’T THINK THAT WILL WORK. BUT TO KEEP THE PARTY THINKING THAT AN ELECTION COULD BE JUST AROUND THE CORNER. SO THIS IS NO TIME TO GO AFTER THE LEADER. I AM NOT CONVINCED THAT THAT’S GOING TO DO THE TRICK.>>THAT’S A REALLY GOOD POINT. I MEAN, EVEN IN THE WORDS THAT HE SAID IN HIS PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY, LIKE, WE HAVE — THE LARGEST VOTE — THE PEOPLE VOTED FOR ME, THEY VOTED FOR MY PLATFORM. LIKE THE “ME” AND THE “MY” WERE REALLY INTERESTING. USUALLY PEOPLE TALK ABOUT “OUR PARTY” AND “OUR PLATFORM” AND THAT WAS DIRECTED TO A LEADERSHIP REVIEW, WHICH ACCORDING TO THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY RULES HAS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THEY LOST THE ELECTION STOA. ME THAT WAS ABOUT FENDING OFF LEADERSHIP CHALLENGERS.>>Rosemary: THERE WAS SOMETHING REALLY SMART THAT A FORMER CONSERVATIVE STAFFER SAID ON “POWER & POLITICS” EARLIER TODAY AND I’LL PUT THIS TO YOU, ANDREW — THAT IS, AS MUCH AS IT’S A STRUGGLE FOR JUSTIN TRUDEAU IN PARTS OF THE COUNTRY SHE ALSO POINTED OUT THAT THE OTHER DANGER HERE IS FOR ANDREW SCHEER TO RETREAT INTO THE WESTERN CANADA BASE. AND TO END UP WITH NOTHING MORE. HOW DANGEROUS AND HOW RISKY IS THAT FOR MR. SCHEER?>>WELL, THIS IS THE PERMANENT CONSERVATIVE DILEMMA, RIGHT, AND IT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WHICH IS THAT THEY OWN THE WEST, THEY’VE OWNED THE WEST SINCE THE 1950s. BUT THEY EITHER CAN’T OR THEY WON’T FIND IT WITHIN THEMSELVES TO REACH OUT BEYOND THAT. AND PARTICULARLY TO REACH URBAN VOTERS IN CENTRAL CANADA. I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT’S FINE TO BE RACKING UP 80% MAJORITIES IN ALBERTA, BUT IF THEY COULD WIN A FEW 40% PLURALITIES IN ONTARIO THEY’D BE FURTHER AHEAD. SO THIS ISN’T JUST REGIONAL BUT IT’S ALSO CULTURAL, YOU KNOW, IT’S EDUCATED — HIGHER EDUCATED VERSUS LESS EDUCATED CANADIANS AND MEN VERSUS WOMEN. CONSERVATIVES HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THIS OF TRYING TO BROADEN THEIR BASE OUT SO THEY CAN GET BOO OF GET ABOVE THAT ROCK SOLID, 32%, 33%, AND ACTUALLY ASPIRE TO THE 40%, WHICH IS WHERE YOU START WINNING MAJORITIES.>>Rosemary: GO AHEAD, CHANTAL.>>IT’S NOT BEEN 24 HOURS BUT WHAT WE SAW IS THE KIND OF ALLIANCE OF CONSERVATIVE PREMIERS THAT KIND OF RALLIED BEHIND ANDREW SCHEER IN THE LEAD-UP TO THE ELECTION IS ALREADY SHOWING DEEP CRACKS WITH THE PREMIER OF NEW BRUNSWICK SAYING THAT I’M GOING TO FIGURE OUT MY OWN CARBON TAX. WHERE ONTARIO GOES FROM HERE IS VERY MUCH A QUESTION MARK. I DON’T THINK THAT DOUG FORD FEELS THAT HE WAS TREATED PROPERLY BY ANDREW SCHEER. AND THAT ANDREW SCHEER HAS THE RESULTS TO SHOW FOR THAT STRATEGY. AND, FRANKLY, ONTARIO DOES NOT REALLY HAVE A DOG IN THE BATTLE FOR PIPELINES. SO THIS — THIS KIND OF FRONT MAY WELL START TO FALL APART, LEAVING SASKATCHEWAN AND ALBERTA ON THEIR OWN.>>Rosemary: YEAH, AND I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT THE MANITOBA PREMIER TODAY, BRIAN PALLISTER, ACTUALLY SAID THAT I’M WILLING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON’T GET SOME SORT OF WESTERN ALIENATION. AND HE’S CERTAINLY NOT A PAL OF THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT. GO AHEAD, ANDREW.>>THE CONSERVATIVE, COREY, WAS ON TV WITH US LAST NIGHT AND SAYING THAT IT WAS ESSENTIAL FOR THE CONSERVATIVES TO HOLD ON TO THEIR BEACHHEAD IN QUÉBEC, AND THAT’S TRUE. BUT IF YOU ONLY WIN A THIRD OF THE SEATS IN ONTARIO YOU’LL JUST NEVER GOING TO FORM A GOVERNMENT. AND ALL OF THOSE SEATS IN THE 905 THAT WERE THERE TO BE HAD, IF THE CONSERVATIVES — THEY CAN’T WIN THAT, THEY’RE NOT EVEN IN THE GAME.>>Rosemary: ALTHIA, ON THAT, ON THE PREMIERS AND HOW THEY’RE POSITIONING THEMSELVES? BECAUSE, OF COURSE, THE MOST FORCEFUL LANGUAGE IS COMING FROM SASKATCHEWAN AND ALBERTA BECAUSE AT THIS POINT THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE, THERE’S NO RED SEATS THERE. NOT THAT IT WAS A BASTION OF THE LIBERAL PARTY ANYWAY.>>AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS RHETORIC AND WHAT IS ACTUALLY GETTING DONE. WHAT YOU ALREADY FROM THE ALBERTA PREMIER, FOR EXAMPLE, TODAY, JASON KENNEY TODAY, LIKE, HIS TANGIBLE ASKS ARE THINGS THAT THE PRIME MINISTER HAS ALREADY SAID YES TO. I MEAN, HE’S PURCHASED THE TRANS MOUNTAIN PIPELINE, THE PIPELINE THAT THE LIBERAL GOVERNMENT WANTS TO BUILD IT. SO THEY’RE SINGING FROM THE SAME SONGBOOK ON THAT. WHEN IT COMES TO DISAGREEMENTS ABOUT THE CARBON PLAN, I MEAN, YOU COULD SAY THAT THOSE THINGS COULD PROBABLY BE WORKED OUT IF YOUR MAIN ASK IS A PIPELINE AND THE PERSON THAT YOU’RE ASKING FOR HAS ALREADY SAID, YES, THEN IT SEEMS THAT YOU COULD BE PARTNERS IF YOU WANTED TO BE PARTNERS.>>Rosemary: OKAY, SO TOMORROW WE WILL HEAR FROM JUSTIN TRUDEAU AND TODAY HE WAS JUST OUT SHAKING HANDS, BUT TOMORROW HE’LL GET QUESTIONS FROM THE MEDIA. I’M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU WHAT YOU WOULD ASK HIM — BUT WHAT DOES HE NEED TO SAY TO CANADIANS THAT HE DIDN’T SAY LAST NIGHT. BECAUSE EVERYONE AGREES THAT NO ONE’S SPEECH DID WHAT IT NEEDS TO DO. CHANTAL?>>HE HAS TO SHOW SOME SENSE THAT THIS WAS NOT A BIG WIN. AND THAT THE REGIONS THAT HAVE FELT LEFT BEHIND, IT RAISES SERIOUS UNITY CONCERNS. SO RATHER THAN A TRIUMPH, YOU KNOW, HERE ARE MY LINES KIND OF PRESS CONFERENCE, IT WOULD BE NICE AND VOTERS HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR THAT IF THERE’S A REAL JUSTIN TRUDEAU OUT THERE FOR HIM TO COME OUT TOMORROW.>>Rosemary: ANDREW?>>I MEAN, THE ONE THING THAT WAS DEFINITELY MISSING FROM LAST NIGHT’S SPEECH WAS A SENSE OF HUMILITY. THIS IS THE SMALLEST SHARE OF A POPULAR VOTE FOR ANY WINNING PARTY IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY. 33%. SO HE’S GOT SOME BRIDGE BUILDING TO DO, NOT JUST IN PARLIAMENT WHERE HE’S GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK WITH THE N.D.P. IN PARTICULAR, WHETHER IT’S AGREEMENT OR JUST WORKING ON LEGISLATION BY LEGISLATION, BUT HE’S GOT TO ALSO BUILD OUT IN THE COUNTRY. HE’S GOT TO RESTORE HIS CREDIBILITY AND CACHE WITH THE COUNTRY AT LARGE. IT’S ONE THING TO HAVE SEATS AND THAT’S IMPORTANT. BUT YOU’VE GOT TO HAVE A SENSE THAT THE COUNTRY IS BEHIND AND THAT YOU HAVE THE WIND AT YOUR BACK. IN HIS FIRST TERM WHEN HE WAS HIGH IN POPULARITY, THAT’S WHEN HE HAD HIS BEST SUCCESSES WITH THE PREMIERS IN PARTICULAR. AND RIGHT NOW HE’S NOT SOMEONE THAT THEY’RE PARTICULARLY AFRAID OF.>>Rosemary: ALTHIA?>>HUMILITY, OF COURSE. THE SPEECH LAST NIGHT WAS LIKE A SPEECH HE WOULD HAVE GIVEN IF HE WON A MAJORITY. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DID NOT VOTE FOR HIM. BUT ALSO I THINK THAT HE NEEDS TO ADDRESS THE FACT THAT NOBODY IN SASKATCHEWAN AND NOBODY IN ALBERTA VOTED FOR HIM AND WHAT IS HE GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? NATIONAL UNITY WITH QUÉBEC, BUT ALSO WITH WESTERN CANADA.>>Rosemary: OKAY, THANK YOU, EVERYBODY, AND THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK AGAIN TONIGHT. AND, DON’T WORRY, I’LL MAKE THEM COME BACK AGAIN ON THURSDAY BECAUSE IT’S A BUSY WEEK AND A LOT TO TALK ABOUT. SO I’LL SEE YOU ALL THEN. THANK YOU.>>THANK YOU.>>Rosemary: BEFORE WE GO SUBSCRIBE TO “AT ISSUE,” THE PODCAST EDITION. AND LOOK FOR IT ON iTUNES AND ANY MAJOR PODCAST APP AND OUR WEBSITE cbcnews.ca/thenational. AND THE ELECTION MAY BE OVER BUT ELAMIN ABDELMAHMOUD AND I STILL HAVE MORE EPISODES OF “PARTY LINES” COMING YOUR WAY ON THURSDAY. WE’LL BREAK DOWN WHAT HAPPENED. YOU DON’T WANT TO MISS THAT EITHER.>>Andrew: STAY WITH US. COMING UP, THE TRUMP IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARD DISTURBING TESTIMONY TODAY FROM A KEY WITNESS, THE TOP U.S. DIPLOMAT IN UKRAINE. (*)>>Andrew: A RISING SASKATCHEWAN CURLER HAS DIED IN CHILDBIRTH. ALY JENKINS HAD JUST DELIVERED A LITTLE GIRL. BONNIE ALLEN HAS MORE ON HER LIFE.>>Reporter: ALY JENKINS WAS A FIERCE COMPETITOR.>>SHE’S HANDLING THE PRESSURE.>>Reporter: SHE WAS ADMIRED FOR HER DEDICATION TO CURLING IS IT TO HER YOUNG FAMILY. SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A A BABY GIRL AND THEN DIED FROM A RARE COMPLICATION IN WHICH AMNIOTIC FLUID SEEPS INTO THE BLOODSTREAM AND THE HEART FAILS AND THE LUNGS COLLAPSE.>>THE UNEXPECTED MAKES THINGS VERY DIFFICULT, BUT WHAT A GREAT PERSON THAT ALY WAS.>>Reporter: DR. JENNIFER BLAKE SAYS THAT THE CAUSE OF AMNIOTIC FLUID EMBOLISM IS UNKNOWN AND UNPREVENTABLE.>>THE RATE IS ABOUT ONE IN 20,000 BIRTHS AND THAT SOUNDS PRETTY RARE EXCEPT WHEN YOU THINK IN A CITY OF TORONTO, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU’D HAVE WELL OVER 20,000 BIRTHS IN A YEAR.>>Reporter: AND IT’S OFTEN FATAL. A MOTHER’S ONLY HOPE FOR SURVIVAL IS LIFE-SAVING MEASURES BY MEDICAL STAFF. BLAKE SAYS THAT THE COUNTRY NEEDS A BETTER WAY TO TRACK AND REDUCE ALL MATERNAL DEATHS DURING CHILDBIRTH.>>I DON’T THINK THAT MOST CANADIANS REALIZE THAT WE DON’T HAVE THE SYSTEM TO GET THE DATA.>>Reporter: SHE BELIEVES IF THAT HAPPENS, THAT MORE DEATHS COULD BE PREVENTED. BACK IN SASKATOON, ALY JENKINS’ TEAMMATES AND FRIENDS ARE REELING.>>I DIDN’T WANT TO BELIEVE IT BECAUSE, HONESTLY, ALY IS SUCH A STRONG PERSON. LIKE, SHE — SHE WAS SUCH A FORCE.>>THE CURLING COMMUNITY HAS LOST A GREAT ONE. SHE BROUGHT IT EVERY TIME.>>Reporter: THEY’RE RAISING MONEY TO SUPPORT HER HUSBAND, SCOTT AND THEIR THREE CHILDREN, INCLUDING JENKINS’ NEWBORN DAUGHTER SYDNEY STILL IN INTENSIVE CARE.>>I THINK SHE’S A LITTLE FIGHTER AND I THINK THAT SHE GETS THAT FROM HER MOM.>>Reporter: BONNIE ALLEN, CBC NEWS, REGINA.>>Andrew: IN THE U.S., A KEY WITNESS IN THE PRESIDENTIAL IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY GAVE SOME DAMNING TESTIMONY TODAY, BUT WHAT’S GRABBING MORE HEADLINES IS DONALD TRUMP’S COMMENTS ABOUT THE INQUIRY ITSELF. AS SUSAN ORMISTON TELLS US, HE COMPARED IT TO A LYNCHING.>>Reporter: IT’S A INCENDIARY COMPARISON AND IT DREW POLITICAL BLOOD.>>HOW DARE THE PRESIDENT COMPARE LYNCHING TO IMPEACHMENT. HOW DARE HE DO THIS. DOES HE NOT KNOW THE HISTORY OF LYNCHING IN THIS COUNTRY? DOES HE NOT KNOW THAT THOUSANDS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS WERE LYNCHED, MOBBED, VIOLENCE?>>Reporter: MORE THAN 4,000, MOSTLY AFRICAN AMERICANS, WERE LYCHED IN THE U.S. UP TO 1978, A VISCERAL PAINFUL CHAPTER, WHICH THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER RECOGNISED.>>GIVEN THE HISTORY IN OUR COUNTRY I WOULD NOT COMPARE THIS TO A LYNCHING AND THAT WAS AN UNFORTUNATE CHOICE OF WORDS.>>Reporter: BUT STILL IN TODAY’S DARK POLITICS ON CAPITOL HILL, TRUMP HAD SOME SUPPORT.>>WHEN IT’S ABOUT TRUMP, WHO CARES ABOUT THE PROCESS. AS LONG AS YOU GET HIM. SO, YEAH, THIS IS A LYNCHING IN EVERY SENSE, THIS IS UN-AMERICAN.>>Reporter: THIS ON THE DAY THAT BILL TAYLOR, ACTING AMBASSADOR TO UKRAINE WAS A KEY AND LAWMAKERS SAY A DAMNING WITNESS AT THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. DRAWING A CLEAR CONNECTION BETWEEN TRUMP WITHHOLDING MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE AND PROMISES TO INVESTIGATE THE BIDEN FAMILY’S DEALINGS IN THE COUNTRY. IN SEPTEMBER, TAYLOR TEXTED IT WAS “CRAZY TO WITHHOLD SECURITY ASSISTANCE FOR HELP WITH A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN.” I BELIEVED IT TODAY, HE SAID I STILL DO. BILL TAYLOR DETAILED HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP MADE IT CLEAR THAT UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT WOULD NOT GET A VISIT TO THE WHITE HOUSE OR SECURITY AID UNLESS HE PLEDGED PUBLICLY TO INVESTIGATE TRUMP’S POLITICAL RIVAL. TONIGHT THE WHITE HOUSE SAID THAT’S TRIPLE HEARSAY AND A POLITICAL SMEAR. SUSAN ORMISTON, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Andrew: OKAY, STILL TO COME, HOW TO CAP OFF A CHAMPIONSHIP SEASON.>>5, 4, 3, 2, 1… [Cheers and Applause] * WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS MY FRIENDS *>>Andrew: TONIGHT THE TORONTO RAPTORS RAISED IT TO THE RAFTERS. (*)>>Ian: WELCOME BACK TO VANCOUVER. IT WAS A DIFFICULT DAY FOR SEVERAL CANADIAN FAMILIES, INVOLVED IN THE ETHIOPIAN AIRLINES CRASH.>>YOU KNOW, IT’S JUST A LONG PROTRACTED PROCESS OF — OF TRYING TO FIND CLOSURE.>>Ian: AFTER A SEVEN-MONTH WAIT, THE RELATIVES RETURNED HOME WITH THE REMAINS OF LOVED ONES WHO WERE KILLED LAST MARCH. 18 CANADIANS AMONG THE 157 PEOPLE ON BOARD. AND AN INVESTIGATION CONTINUES INTO WHY THE BOEING 737 MAX 8 PLUMMETED INTO THE GROUND JUST SIX MINUTES AFTER TAKING OFF.>>>CALGARY-BASED HUSKY ENERGY SAYS IT’S LAYING OFF STAFF, BUT IT’S NOT SAYING HOW MANY. OUTSIDE OF THE CALGARY HEADQUARTERS THE CABS WERE LINED UP TO TAKE PEOPLE HOME AS THEY FILED OUT WITH THEIR BELONGINGS. THE COMPANY SENT A BRIEF EMAIL SAYING THAT IT’S BEEN TAKING STEPS TO BETTER ALIGN THE WORKPLACE WITH ITS CAPITAL PLAN AND STRATEGY. HUSKY SAYS THEY’RE PLANNING TO CUT SPENDING BY 10% UNDER A NEW FIVE-YEAR PLAN.>>>FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT JIMMY CARTER IS IN A GEORGIA HOSPITAL, RECOVERING FROM WHAT IS BEING DESCRIBED AS A MINOR PELVIC FRACTURE. IT’S THE SECOND TIME THIS MONTH THAT THE 95-YEAR-OLD HAS BEEN INJURED IN A FALL. HE GOT 14 STITCHES AND SUFFERED A BLACK EYE IN AN EARLIER INCIDENT. HIS NON-PROFIT ORGINISATION SAYS THAT CARTER IS IN GOOD SPIRITS AND IS LOOKING FORWARD TO RECOVERING AT HOME.>>>STILL AHEAD THERE’S NO PLACE LIKE HOME FOR THE TORONTO RAPTORS AS THE NEW SEASON BEGINS, AND ONE LAST CELEBRATION FOR THE REIGNING NBA CHAMPS. (*)>>Andrew: A BIG NIGHT FOR THE TORONTO RAPTORS. THE FRANCHISE’S 25th ANNIVERSARY SEASON HAS BEGUN UNDER A CHAMPIONSHIP BANNER, A SELLOUT CROWD, ELATED TO SEE THEIR HEROES IN ACTION AND HUNGRY FOR A RETURN TRIP TO THE PLAYOFFS. THE QUESTION IS, CAN THEY DO IT WITHOUT KAWHI LEONARD? HERE’S JAMIE STRASHIN.>>LET’S DO IT AGAIN!>>Reporter: THE NOW FAMOUS JURASSIC PARK IT SEEMS THAT THE PARTY NEVER STOPPED.>>BEEN A RAPTORS FAN FOR 25 YEARS. SO THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING AND I HAD TO BE HERE. I COULDN’T MISS IT. TO SEE THE BANNER RAISED TONIGHT.>>CANADA, THE NBA…>>Reporter: YOU HAVE TO ADMIT IT STILL HAS A NICE RING TO IT DEFENDING NBA CHAMPS. THE EUPHORIA OF LAST SEASON’S IMPROBABLE TITLE STILL WASHES OVER THE NATION. THIS CHAMPIONSHIP BANNER CAN NEVER BE TAKEN AWAY.>>THAT BANNER IS THERE FOREVER, IN THIS FRANCHISE’S HISTORY, NO MATTER WHAT. AND THAT’S REALLY, REALLY, REALLY COOL.>>Reporter: ON OPENING NIGHT, RINGS FOR THE PLAYERS, AND GLITZY REPLICAS FOR THE FANS WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH THAT RING?>>WEAR IT ALL THE TIME.>>I HAVE BEEN COMING HERE SINCE I WAS 7 YEARS OLD WITH MY UNCLES AND GRANDPA AND NOT ALL OF THEM COULD BE HERE FOR THIS MOMENT, BUT FOR ME TO GET THIS RING, IT MEANS A LOT. IT MEANS A LOT.>>Reporter: TO BEGIN THE SEASON, THERE’S OPTIMISM.>>WE BELIEVE THAT WE CAN BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD AND CHASE THAT GOLD BALL AGAIN. AND THAT’S THE ONLY REASON THAT WE PLAY IS TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP.>>Reporter: BUT THIS IS A DIFFERENT TEAM.>>THE TORONTO RAPTORS…>>Reporter: KAWHI LEONARD IS GONE, OFF TO LOS ANGELES AFTER SPURNING THE CHANCE TO PURSUE ANOTHER RING NORTH OF THE BORDER.>>I DON’T LIKE TO LIVE WITH A CHIP ON MY SHOULDER AND I DON’T REALLY LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. I JUST SAY THAT — I FLIP IT AND SAY IT’S MORE OF A CHANCE TO PROVE OURSELVES RIGHT.>>Reporter: THE RAPTORS HOPE TO BE COMPETITIVE BUT ODD-MAKERS SAY THAT 12 OTHER TEAMS HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF WINNING AN NBA TITLE. THE REST OF THE SEASON WILL DECIDE THAT. TONIGHT WAS ABOUT CELEBRATING AND KEEPING THE PARTY GOING. JAMIE STRASHIN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Andrew: NOW A SIDE NOTE, GOOD NEWS FOR THE RAPTORS PRESIDENT MASAI UJIRI. YOU REMEMBER THAT COURTSIDE IPSZ DENT FROM GAME SIX OF THE NBA FINALS? IT SOUNDS THAT IT’S BEEN RESOLVED. TO RECAP WHAT HAPPENED, UJIRI WAS TRYING TO MAKE HIS WAY TO THE FLOOR WHEN HE AND A SECURITY GUARD GOT INTO AN ALTERCATION AND NOW THE LOCAL DISTRICT ATTORNEY’S OFFICE DETERMINED THAT UJIRI WILL NOT BE CHARGED OVER WHAT HAPPENED.>>>OKAY, YESTERDAY, CANADIAN VOTERS HAD THEIR SAY. TONIGHT THEY’RE OUR “MOMENT.”>>I DON’T THINK THAT ANYBODY COMES AWAY FROM AN ELECTION FULLY SATISFIED.>>Rosemary: THIS ELECTION WAS ALL ABOUT THE VOTERS BEING HEARD, YOUR VOTE, YOUR VOICE, YOUR SAY, AND AS THE RESULTS POURED IN, YOU REACTED. SO WE WANT TO HAND THE END OF TONIGHT’S SHOW OVER TO YOU, REFLECTIONS PROBLEM CANADIAN VOTERS THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION. THAT IS OUR “MOMENT.”>>WELL, WITH A STRONG MINORITY GOVERNMENT, IT WILL TAKE SOME NEGOTIATION AND PATIENCE AND HOPEFULLY WE ARE NOT CALLED TO THE POLLS TOO SOON.>>I DIDN’T STAY UP FOR THEM. I THINK THAT THE LIBERALS WON A MINORITY GOVERNMENT, RIGHT?>>WE WANT TRUDEAU BUT WE DON’T TRUST HIM AS MUCH AS WE USED TO.>>IT’S A PRIVILEGE TO VOTE, SO, YEAH.>>THE PEOPLE SPOKE, THAT’S ALL WE CAN SAY, IS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN.>>NOT ONE PARTY TO HAVE ALL OF THE POWER AND OTHER PARTIES CAN HAVE A SAY. I THINK THAT IT’S WONDERFUL.>>I DON’T THINK THAT ANYBODY COMES AWAY FROM AN ELECTION FULLY SATISFIED.>>IT’S POLITICS, EH, YOU JUST NEVER KNOW.>>I THINK THAT IT WAS ABOUT WHAT I EXPECTED.>>I THINK WE’RE IN A CRITICAL TIME AS A COUNTRY AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS TOGETHER.>>I WASN’T SURPRISED WITH THE RESULTS. BUT IT LEAVES ME FEELING — NOT KNOWING NOW WHAT WE CAN EXPECT MOVING FORWARD.>>Rosemary: THAT’S WHAT EVERYONE IS ASKING THEMSELVES AND WE’LL FIND OUT IN THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS. MY FAVOURITE PART OF ELECTION NIGHT IS THAT I DON’T KNOW WHAT PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED SO IT’S SORT OF LIKE CHRISTMAS, FINDING OUT HOW CANADIANS HAVE VOTED AND WHAT THEY HAVE CHOSEN AND LAST NIGHT WAS JUST THAT.>>Adrienne: AND SPEAKING OF LAST NIGHT, I MEAN, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW YOU HAVE ANY WORDS OR ANY VOICE LEFT OR ANY OF YOU ARE STILL STANDING. BUT INTERESTINGLY TODAY IN THE 905, I DIDN’T MEET ANYONE WHO WAS DISAPPOINTED THAT IT’S A MINORITY GOVERNMENT, REGARDLESS IF THEY VOTED LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE, THEY’RE HAPPY THAT IT’S A MINORITY GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY FEEL THAT IT MEANS MORE COMPROMISE AND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY.>>Ian: I’VE ONLY BEEN BACK HERE IN VANCOUVER FOR A COUPLE HOURS BUT AT A COFFEE SHOP PEOPLE ARE SAYING TO ME, WHAT EXACTLY DID WE DECIDE IN B.C.? THIS IS A PROVINCE THAT ENACTED A FEW MORE CONSERVATIVES AND STILL LIBERALS AND N.D.P. AND, OH, YEAH, AN INDEPENDENT. SO, ROSIE, “AT ISSUE” WILL HAVE TO FIGURE THIS OUT FOR US. [laughter]>>Andrew: WELL, I’LL SAY THAT I JUST THINK OF ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO CARE SO DEEPLY ABOUT THE OUTCOME. AND I THINK OF THE TURNOUT, RIGHT. 66%. WHICH IS REASONABLY HIGH BY ANY METRIC OF THE LAST QUARTER CENTURY OR SO, EXCEPT THAT STILL ONE IN THREE PEOPLE WHO DIDN’T VOTE. THAT’S SOMETHING WORTH THINKING ABOUT.>>>THAT’S “THE NATIONAL” FOR THIS TUESDAY, OCTOBER 22nd. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.>>Adrienne: GOODNIGHT.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *