The National for Nov. 17, 2019 — Hong Kong clashes, Tik Tok concerns, Maestro Fresh Wes

The National for Nov. 17, 2019 — Hong Kong clashes, Tik Tok concerns, Maestro Fresh Wes


(*)>>Ian: TONIGHT, FIRE AND EXPLOSIONS IN HONG KONG. POLICE CLASH WITH PROTESTERS AFTER AN ALL-NIGHT STANDOFF ON ONE OF THE MOST VIOLENT WEEKENDS YET.>>>PRINCE ANDREW ON HIS TIES TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN.>>UNBECOMING? HE WAS A SEX OFFENDER.>>I’M SORRY, I’M BEING POLITE.>>Ian: THE INTERVIEW TURNED P.R. NIGHTMARE FOR THE PALACE.>>>HE’S OUT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AFTER HIS BANK WIRED IT TO FRAUDSTERS.>>I DON’T DO THIS EVERY DAY. THEY DO.>>Ian: NOW HE’S “GOING PUBLIC.”>>NICE TO MEET YOU.>>Ian: AND THE “SUNDAY INTERVIEW” WITH MAESTRO FRESH-WES, THE GODFATHER OF CANADIAN HIP-HOP GETS HIS PLACE IN THE SONGWRITERS’ HALL OF FAME.>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*)>>>AN EXPLOSIVE STAND YAIF WITH HONG KONG POLICE AT A UNIVERSITY CAMPUS HAS LED TO PROTESTERS TRAPPED. POLICE FORCING THEM TO CHOOSE BETWEEN A LAST STAND AND A LAST CHANCE. THERE WAS A MOMENT OF PANIC AT HONG KONG’S POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY, BURNING AS POLICE RUSH THE ENTRANCE. HUNDREDS OF PROTESTERS BARRICADED INSIDE, BATTLING TO HOLD GROUND. THE STATUS OF AN OFFER TO LEAVE PEACEFULLY UNCLEAR AFTER POLICE THREATEN TO MEET VIOLENCE WITH LETHAL FORCE. TINA LOVGREEN SHOWS US A HONG KONG POISED TO ENTER A DANGEROUS NEW PHASE.>>Reporter: THE IMAGES FROM INSIDE OF THE UNIVERSITY APOCALYPTIC. PROTESTERS FIGHTING THROUGH THE HAZE OF SMOKE AND FIRE, IN AN EFFORT TO KEEP POLICE FROM STORMING IN. THE PROTESTERS HAD BARRICADED THEMSELVES INSIDE THE HONG KONG POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY SINCE FRIDAY.>>[speaking foreign LANGUAGE].>>Reporter: BATTLING THROUGH BARRAGES OF TEAR GAS AND WATER CANNONS AS THEY CONTINUED CALLING FOR FREE ELECTIONS AND OTHER MAJOR REFORMS.>>I WANT DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM TO COME TO HONG KONG. BUT IT SEEMS FAR AWAY FROM US. BUT STILL WE WILL FIGHT AT THE LAST MOMENT TO RECEIVE IT. AND SO I’M NOT SCARED NOW.>>Reporter: THE CLASH IS TRIGGERING THIS VIDEO MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSITY TO PROTESTERS.>>IF THE PROTESTERS DO NOT INITIATE THE USE OF FORCE, THE POLICE WILL NOT INITIATE THE USE OF FORCE.>>Reporter: THE DEMONSTRATORS MAY NOT TRUST THE MESSAGE AFTER THIS ULTIMATUM FROM POLICE.>>[speaking foreign LANGUAGE].>>Reporter: WARNING THEY WILL USE LIVE AMMUNITION IF THE CLASHES CONTINUE. FOLLOWING FIVE MONTHS OF UNREST THIS WEEKEND WAS ONE OF THE MOST VIOLENT YET. EARLIER IN THE DAY PROTESTERS FOUGHT WITH BOWS AND ARROWS. THESE IMAGES SHARED BY HONG KONG POLICE SHOWING A LIAISON OFFICER SHOT IN THE LEG. FOR SOME IN HONG KONG THIS ALSO IS OMINOUS, SOLDIERS FROM CHINA’S PEOPLE’S LIBERATION ARMY CLEANING UP THE STREETS, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A NON-THREATENING ACT BUT IT’S THE ONLY SECOND TIME THAT CHINESE TROOPS HAVE BEEN SEEN ON HONG KONG STREETS SINCE 1997.>>THIS IS THE SIGNAL WARNING HONG KONG PEOPLE THAT THE TROOPS ARE JUST NEXT TO YOU, RIGHT. AND WE ARE NOW SENDING THE TROOPS AND WE ARE READY TO TAKE DRASTIC MEASURES. SO THIS IS I THINK THE STRONGEST SIGNAL SO FAR.>>Reporter: THOSE WARNING SIGNALS ARE MOUNTING AS HONG KONG HEADS TO LOCAL ELECTIONS IN A WEEK. TINA LOVGREEN, CBC NEWS, VANCOUVER.>>Ian: AND IN IRAN THERE ARE REPORTS OF GUNFIRE AMID PROTESTS IN RESPONSE TO A RECENTLY ANNOUNCED HIKE IN FUEL PRICES. DRIVERS ABANDONED CARS ON MAJOR ROADS AND PROTESTERS ALLEGEDLY SET FIRES, BUT IMAGES AND INFORMATION ARE SCARCE. THE GOVERNMENT HAS SHUTDOWN THE INTERNET ACCESS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND CLOSED BORDER CROSSINGS. THE COUNTRY’S SUPREME LEADER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE HAVE BEEN DEATHS AND DENOUNCED SOME PROTESTERS AS “THUGS.”>>>PRINCE ANDREW WOKE UP TO A STORM OF CRITICISM TODAY AFTER HE GAVE A TELEVISION INTERVIEW TO ADDRESS THE ALLEGATION THAT HE’D HAD SEX WITH AN UNDERAGED TEEN. THE PRINCE WAS TRYING TO CONTROL THE DAMAGE BUT INSTEAD HE SEEMED TO CAUSE MORE. NOT ONE SINGLE WORD OF REMORSE, NO SWEAT AND NO REGRET. JUST A FEW OF THE MANY BRITISH HEADLINES CALLING HIM OUT TODAY. SHANNON MARTIN SHOWS US WHAT THE PRINCE SAID.>>Reporter: YOU WERE STAYING AT THE HOUSE WITH A CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER.>>Reporter: 49 MINUTES FROM START TO FINISH, PRINCE ANDREW AIMING TO CLEAR HIS NAME AND TARNISHED REPUTATION. INSTEAD, WHAT MANY FOUND PARTICULARLY OFFENSIVE, THE PRINCE’S REPEATED REFUSALS TO EXPRESS ANY REGRET OVER HIS YEARS OF PARTYING WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN, THE DISGRACED BILLIONAIRE SEX TRAFFICKER WHO DIED IN PRISON.>>Reporter: IT’S UNBECOMING? HE WAS A SEX OFFENDER.>>I’M SORRY, I’M BEING POLITE.>>Reporter: AND THEN THE ACCUSATIONS FROM VIRGINIA GIUFFRE. SHE SAID THAT SHE WAS FORCED BY EPSTEIN TO HAVE SEX WITH THE DUKE OF YORK ON THREE OCCASIONS, ONCE WHEN SHE WAS JUST 17.>>I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION OF EVER MEETING THIS LADY.>>Reporter: SO WHAT OF THIS PHOTOGRAPH THEN? THE PRINCE ADMITS THAT IT IS HIM BUT SAYS THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN DOCTORED. IN COURT DOCUMENTS GIUFFRE HAS SWORN TO OTHER SPECIFICS, AS A TEEN DANCING WITH THE PRINCE AT THIS LONDON CLUB. IMPOSSIBLE, HE SAYS, HE WAS WITH HIS KIDS AT THIS PIZZA PLACE. AS FOR HER CLAIMS THAT HE WAS SWEATING PROFUSELY ON THE DANCE FLOOR?>>I DIDN’T SWEAT AT THE TIME BECAUSE I HAD SUFFERED WHAT I WOULD DESCRIBE AS AN OVERDOSE OF ADRENALIN IN THE FALCON’S WAR WHEN I WAS SHOT AT.>>Reporter: THE REACTION FROM ROYAL WATCHERS — I EXPECTED A TRAIN WRECK, THAT WAS A PLANE CRASHING INTO AN OIL TANKER, CAUSING A TSUNAMI, TRIGGERING A NUCLEAR EXPLOSION LEVEL BAD.>>IF HE WAS THINKING THAT IT WAS GOING TO GO AWAY, IT’S CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. IT’S THERE FOR THE WORLD TO SEE.>>Reporter: BECAUSE THE INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE INSIDE BUCKINGHAM PALACE, SOME SPECULATED THAT THE QUEEN WAS ON BOARD, BUT NOT NECESSARILY.>>I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD NOT READ ANYTHING INTO THAT OTHER THAN THE QUEEN GAVE PERMISSION TO USE THAT ROOM. I DON’T THINK THAT THE QUEEN WOULD HAVE GIVEN HER APPROVAL FOR THAT IF SHE HAD KNOWN EXACTLY WHAT WAS COMING. AND I THINK THAT SHE’D BE HORRIFIED HOW THE INTERVIEW HAS GONE.>>Reporter: SO FAR NO OFFICIAL RESPONSE FROM THE PALACE AND INSIDERS SAY DON’T EXPECT ONE. SHANNON MARTIN, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Ian: NOW TO A CBC NEWS INVESTIGATION REVEALING NEW DETAILS TONIGHT ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE BY CLERGY WITHIN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC ARCHDIOCESE OF VANCOUVER. “THE FIFTH ESTATE” HAS OBTAINED INTERNAL INFORMATION THAT SHOWS THAT THE ARCHDIOCESE HAS RECORDS OF DOZENS OF ABUSE CASES WITHIN ITS JURISDICTION, MANY OF THOSE INVOLVING CHILDREN. IT’S ALL PART OF A BIGGER INVESTIGATION BY “THE FIFTH ESTATE” HOST GILLIAN FINDLAY INTO ABUSE AND ACCOUNTABILITY IN THE CHURCH. AND, GILLIAN, NO CATHOLIC CHURCH HAS EVER MADE INFORMATION LIKE THIS MADE PUBLIC?>>Reporter: NO, IAN, IT COMES FROM THE OWN INTERNAL ARCHIVES. WHAT THE REVIEW FOUND IS THIS — 36 CASES IN VANCOUVER OF NO ONE — KNOWN SEXUAL ABUSE BY CLERGY GOING BACK TO THE 1950s. 26 OF THEM INVOLVING CHILDREN. AND, INTERESTINGLY, THREE CASES OF PRIESTS WHO FATHERED CHILDREN. NOW THE FINDINGS OF A CASE REVIEW COMMITTEE THAT WAS STRUCK BY VANCOUVER’S ARCHBISHOP MICHAEL MILLER.>>Ian: THAT HAPPENED AFTER A BOMBSHELL REPORT CAME OUT OF PENNSYLVANIA?>>Reporter: THAT’S RIGHT. IN 2018, A GRAND JURY IN THAT STATE FORCED ACCESS TO CATHOLIC CHURCH ARCHIVES THERE AND FOUND NAMES, NOT ONLY OF 300 PRIESTS WHOM THE CHURCH ITSELF HAD DEEMED CREDIBLY ACCUSED BUT ALL OF THE WAYS THAT CHURCH OFFICIALS HAD COVERED UP THE ABUSERS OVER THE YEARS. IT WAS A BIG SCANDAL. TO HIS CREDIT, ARCHBISHOP MILLER DECIDED PERHAPS THERE WAS VALUE IN DOCUMENTING WHAT HAD HAPPENED IN HIS DIOCESE. FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL AS YOU SAY, IT’S THE FIRST TIME THAT ANY DIOCESE IN CANADA HAS DONE THIS.>>Ian: YOU CAME ACROSS THIS INFORMATION IN THE COURSE OF MAKING A DOCUMENTARY ABOUT SEXUAL ABUSE SURVIVORS TRYING TO HOLD THE CHURCH TO ACCOUNT?>>Reporter: THAT’S RIGHT. AND ONE OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE FOLLOWING ENDED UP SITTING ON ARCHBISHOP MILLER’S COMMITTEE. LEONA HUGGINS WAS ABUSED BY HER PARISH PRIEST IN VANCOUVER AS A TEENAGER. HAVING HELPED TO ASSEMBLE THAT LIST OF 36 NAMES SHE’S PUSHING THE ARCHBISHOP TO MAKE THEM PUBLIC SO THAT OTHER VICTIMS MIGHT ALSO COME FORWARD.>>I THINK THAT THE CHURCH HAS AN ETHICAL AND A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO REVEAL THOSE NAMES, TO SHED LIGHT ON THE LEGACY, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE MEN ARE STILL ESTEEMED WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES THEY WORK IN.>>Reporter: OF COURSE, ALL OF THIS RAISES IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT CHURCH OFFICIALS KNEW ABOUT ABUSE THEY ACKNOWLEDGE HAPPENED AND WHAT THEY DID. WE’VE LEARNED THAT SOME PRIESTS, INCLUDING THE ONE WHO ABUSED LEONA HUGGINS, ENDED UP WORKING IN A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION. AND THAT VICTIMS SOMETIMES WERE PAID MONEY AFTER SIGNING NON-DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS. IN A LETTER VANCOUVER’S ARCHDIOCESE CONFIRMED THAT SETTLEMENTS WERE CERTAINLY PAID, BUT DENIED KNOWING ANYTHING ABOUT OFFENDING PRIESTS BEING TRANSFERRED.>>Ian: SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE COMMITTEE SENT ITS REPORT TO THE ARCHBISHOP IN JULY BUT HE’S NOT MADE ANY OF THIS PUBLIC?>>Reporter: NOPE, THAT’S RIGHT, IAN, NOT YET. ARCHBISHOP MILLER DECLINED TO BE INTERVIEWED FOR OUR DOCUMENTARY BUT HIS PEOPLE NOW TELL US THAT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE CASE REVIEW COMMITTEE’S FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS WILL BE RELEASED LATER THIS WEEK. SO STAY TUNED.>>Ian: ALL RIGHT, GILLIAN, THANK YOU. YOU CAN SEE GILLIAN’S ENTIRE INVESTIGATION ONLINE AT CBC.CA/FIFTH, AND ON CBC GEM.>>>NOW AN INVESTIGATION INTO HOW EMAIL FRAUD ARE COSTING CANADIANS, LEADING TO COMPLAINTS BANKS SHOULD BE DOING A BETTER JOB TO PROTECT CLIENTS. A CALGARY MAN WAS DUPED AND ASKED HIS BANK TO WIRE $800,000 TO THE SCAMMERS. AS ERICA JOHNSON TELLS US, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE BANK DID.>>Reporter: THIS ISN’T HOW ROD McLEOD HAD PLANNED TO SPEND CALGARY’S COLDER MONTHS. HE AND HIS WIFE HAD HOPED TO BE VACATIONING HERE AS PROUD NEW OWNERS OF THIS CALIFORNIA CONDO. BUT INSTEAD HIS BANK WIRED $800,000 FOR THE CONDO TO FRAUDSTERS IN DENVER.>>IT’S LIKE PICKING A SCAB THAT HURTS OVER AND OVER AGAIN.>>Reporter: BACK IN OCTOBER OF 2018, McLEOD RECEIVED AN EMAIL SUPPOSEDLY FROM HIS REALTOR GIVING NEW WIRING INSTRUCTIONS. HE DIDN’T KNOW THAT IT WAS A FRAUD, FORWARDED IT TO HIS BANK, CIDL. IT’S ONE OF THE PRIVATE BANKS THAT CATER TO PEOPLE WITH BIG BANK ACCOUNTS. WHEN CIDEL GOT THAT EMAIL IT WAS FLAGGED “SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE.” THE RETIREE DIDN’T NOTICE, BUT SAYS THAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A RED FLAG FOR HIS BANK.>>I DON’T DO THIS EVERY DAY, YOU KNOW. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS TOTALLY NEW TO ME. THEY DO.>>Reporter: FRAUDSTERS HACKING INTO EMAILS, IMPERSONATING REALTORS AND OTHER BUSINESS TYPES AND TRICKING PEOPLE AND THEIR BANKS INTO REDIRECTING WIRE TRANSFERS. IT’S A MULTIBILLION DOLLAR PROBLEM IN NORTH AMERICA. THIS FORMER F.B.I. AGENT TURNED PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR WAS HIRED BY McLEOD. HE WAS THE FIRST TO NOTICE THE SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE WARNING ON THE FRAUDSTER’S EMAILS. IT SAYS BANKS IN CANADA AND THE U.S. NEED NEW LAWS.”>>TO MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT OF THE BANKS TO PROTECT THEIR CUSTOMERS AND TO ASK CERTAIN THINGS ON EVERY WIRE TRANSFER AND TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT A LITTLE BETTER FOR THIS SORT OF THING.>>Reporter: McLEOD IS NOW SUING HIS BANK, ALLEGING THAT IT SHOULD HAVE DONE A BETTER JOB OF SAFEGUARDING HIS MONEY, INSTEAD OF PUTTING HIS SNOWBIRD DREAMS ON ICE.>>Ian: AND ERICA IS JOINING US NOW. WHAT IS THE BANK SAYING ABOUT ALL OF THIS?>>Reporter: WELL, IAN, WE ASKED CIDEL FOR AN INTERVIEW AND IT DECLINED OUR REQUESTS. AND IT ALSO HAS NOT RESPONDED YET TO THE ALLEGATIONS IN THE LAWSUIT. HOWEVER, THE C.E.O. OF CIDEL HAS TOLD HIS CLIENT THAT HE’S SORRY FOR THE CLIENT’S LOSSES, BUT HE DOESN’T FEEL THAT THE BANK IS UNDER ANY OBLIGATION TO REIMBURSE HIM BECAUSE THAT FRAUDULENT EMAIL INITIALLY CAME FROM ROD McLEOD.>>Ian: SO IT APPEARS THAT NO CLEAR LEGAL REQUIREMENT FOR BANKS TO VERIFY THE MONEY IS GOING TO THE RIGHT PERSON?>>Reporter: NO, THERE’S PAPERWORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE AND SO YOU HAVE TO GET THE NAME AND ADDRESS OF THE SENDER AND THE RECEIVER, FOR INSTANCE. BUT THERE’S NO LAW TO VERIFY THAT THE MONEY IS GOING TO THE INTENDED RECIPIENT AND NOT TO CRIMINALS.>>Ian: THANK YOU, ERICA. WE DID GET A WRITTEN STATEMENT FROM CIDEL. THE C.E.O. SAYS THAT THE BANK FOLLOWED INDUSTRY PRACTICES FOR WIRE TRANSFERS AND COMPLIED WITH ITS CLIENT’S WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS.>>>IF YOU HAVE A STORY OR A TIP FOR OUR “GO PUBLIC” TEAM YOU CAN GET IN TOUCH WITH US AT [email protected]>>>WELL, WASHINGTON IS HEADING INTO WHAT IS PROMISING TO BE ANOTHER BLOCKBUSTER WEEK OF TESTIMONY, THE SECOND WEEK OF PUBLIC IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS. THIS IS AFTER THE REPUBLICANS LOST ANOTHER STATE ELECTION. LOST ANOTHER STATE ELECTION. AS PAUL HUNTER TELLS US, EVERY DEVELOPMENT, BIG OR SMALL, SEEMS TO BE TAKING ON ADDED SIGNIFICANCE.>>Reporter: WHEN IT COMES TO DONALD TRUMP ON THE MATTER OF IMPEACHMENT, UNSURPRISINGLY, IT DEPENDS WHO YOU ASK. AND TO WHICH POLITICAL PARTY YOU BELONG.>>THE CRIMES AND THE OFFENSES THAT HAVE BEEN DETAILED IN HIS TESTIMONY ARE ABSOLUTELY DAMNING.>>I THINK THAT THE EVIDENCE IS CRUMBLING AND I THINK THAT THE DEMOCRATS KNOW THEY’RE IN TROUBLE ON THIS.>>Reporter: IT’S STILL ALL ABOUT THAT KEY QUESTION — DID TRUMP ABUSE THE PRESIDENCY BY LEVERAGING U.S. MILITARY AID TRYING TO PRESSURE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY ON FINDING DIRT ON TRUMP RIVAL, JOE BIDEN? SAID THE MOST POWERFUL DEMOCRAT ON CAPITOL HILL TODAY, TRUMP IS WORSE THAN RICHARD NIXON, WHO FAMOUSLY QUIT BEFORE HE COULD BE IMPEACHED.>>AT SOME POINT RICHARD NIXON CARED ABOUT THE COUNTRY ENOUGH CARED ABOUT THE COUNTRY ENOUGH TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS COULD NOT CONTINUE.>>Reporter: WHICH BRINGS US TO THIS COMING WEEK AND A POTENTIAL GAME-CHANGER. AMONG THOSE SET TO TESTIFY — GORDON SONDLAND WEDNESDAY, A BIG-TIME TRUMP SUPPORTER, HE’S THE U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE EUROPEAN UNION WHO APPARENTLY CALLED TRUMP IN JULY TO TALK ABOUT UKRAINE. WITH TRUMP SAID TO HAVE BEEN OVERHEARD PRESSING HARD FOR A BIDEN INVESTIGATION. SAY DEMOCRATS, WHEN SONDLAND RECOUNTS THAT CALL THIS WEEK IT’S TIME FOR HIM TO CHOOSE A SIDE.>>MR. SONDLAND HAS TO DECIDE WHETHER HIS PRIMARY LOYALTY IS TO AMERICA OR WHETHER HIS PRIMARY LOYALTY IS TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.>>Reporter: ANOTHER QUESTION — WHERE NOW LIES THE LOYALTY OF U.S. VOTERS? LAST NIGHT IN LOUISIANA, A DEMOCRAT WAS RE-ELECTED GOVERNOR IN A PRO-TRUMP STATE. AND IN THE FACE OF HARD CAMPAIGNING FOR THE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE BY TRUMP HIMSELF. IT’S THE SECOND TIME THIS MONTH THAT TRUMP HAS FAILED TO SWAY ENOUGH VOTERS IN A STATE-WIDE CONTEST. WHEN RESULTS CAME IN, THE DEMOCRATIC WINNER, TONGUE-IN-CHEEK, THANKED TRUMP FOR TRYING BUT FAILING AGAIN.>>AND AS FOR THE PRESIDENT, GOD BLESS HIS HEART.>>Reporter: THE CROWD LAUGHED AND ROARED. PAUL HUNTER, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Ian: AND BESIDES GEORGE SONDLAND, SEVEN OTHER WITNESSES ARE SET TO TESTIFY. THEY INCLUDE THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL’S ALEXANDER VINDMAN WHO WAS ON THAT PHONE CALL IN QUESTION BETWEEN TRUMP AND UKRAINE’S PRESIDENT. AND KURT VOELKER, THE SPECIAL REPRESENTATIVE TO UKRAINE. AND FIONA HILL, A SENIOR DIRECTOR FOR RUSSIA AT THE N.S.C. A FEW OF THE HIGHLIGHTS TO WATCH FOR AND WHAT COULD BE AN EVEN BIGGER WEEK OF TESTIMONY.>>>HERE’S SOME OF THE OTHER STORIES THAT WE’RE FOLLOWING TONIGHT ON “THE NATIONAL”…>>>VENICE HAS BEEN HIT WITH MORE SEVERE FLOODING. HIGH TIDES PEAKED TODAY AT A METRE AND A HALF, THE THIRD SUCH TIDE IN A WEEK. BEFORE NOW THAT LEVEL HAS NEVER BEEN REACHED EVEN TWICE IN ONE YEAR. BEFORE NOW THAT LEVEL HAS NEVER BEEN REACHED EVEN TWICE IN ONE YEAR.>>>BACK HERE AT HOME AN INQUIRY INTO THE DEATHS OF A FORMER CANADIAN SOLDIER AND HIS FAMILY. WE’LL HEAR FROM THE FIRST WITNESSES TOMORROW. ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO LIONEL DESMOND SHOT HIS YOUNG DAUGHTER, WIFE AND MOTHER AND THEN HIMSELF. DESMOND HAD PTSD AND HAD SOUGHT TREATMENT. THE INQUIRY WILL LOOK INTO ANY WARNING SIGNS AND ASK WHY HE WAS ABLE TO BUY A RIFLE.>>SLEEPLESS NIGHTS ALL WEEK ARE MOSTLY ABOUT THIS. DON IS MY GUY AND I’M IN A FOXHOLE WITH DON AND I HAVE DECIDED TO GO ONE WAY AND HE ANOTHER.>>Ian: AND “HOCKEY NIGHT IN CANADA’S” RON McLEAN TALKED FROM THE HEART LAST NIGHT ABOUT THE FORCED DEPARTURE OF HIS CO-HOST, DON CHERRY, OVER COMMENTS THAT CHERRY MADE ON THE BROADCAST LAST WEEK. ANITA BATHE IS HERE TO BREAKDOWN WHAT McLEAN HAD TO SAY AND HOW IT’S GOING OVER.>>Reporter: WELL, IAN, THAT FIRST INTERMISSION OPENED IN A STRANGE NEW WAY FOR FANS OF “HOCKEY NIGHT IN CANADA.” AFTER 34 YEARS –>>”COACH’S CORNER” IS NO MORE.>>Reporter: AN EMOTIONAL MESSAGE FROM RON McLEAN.>>WE ARE ALL HURTING. I HAVE COLLAPSED A HUNDRED TIMES THIS WEEK, IF NOT MORE. THIS ONE PLUNGED DEEPLY INTO OUR HEARTS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT’S ABOUT RELATIONSHIPS.>>Reporter: BUT THAT MESSAGE LEFT SOME PEOPLE UNSATISFIED, SAYING THAT IT SOUNDED LIKE DON CHERRY’S EULOGY.>>I LOVE YOU VERY MUCH, AND WE HONOUR YOU TONIGHT IN THIS LAST TALK ABOUT “COACH’S CORNER.”>>I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A LITTLE BIZARRE AND OVERWROUGHT.>>HE STILL HAS STOOD BY DURING A LOT OF BAD MOMENTS.>>Reporter: OTHERS ARE QUICK TO DEFEND McLEAN.>>I GOT A SENSE THAT HE AND DON CHERRY WERE CLOSE AND THAT HE FELT VERY TORN BY THE SITUATION>>I THOUGHT THAT RON WAS IN A TOUGH SPOT.>>Reporter: McLEAN WAS FORCED TO CHOOSE PRINCIPLE OVER FRIENDSHIP. McLEAN GAVE MORE CLARITY ON WHAT HAPPENED IN THE DAYS BEFORE THE FIRING. HE SAID THAT THERE WERE STEPS THAT NEEDED TO BE TAKEN AND CHERRY DIDN’T WANT TO TAKE THOSE STEPS. AND McLEAN REVEALED THAT HE TRIED TO CALL CHERRY BUT THAT CALL WENT UNANSWERED. IAN?>>Ian: I WAS WATCHING LAST NIGHT AND IT WAS QUITE A MOMENT. THANK YOU, ANITA.>>>IN HEALTH NEWS TONIGHT, DECADES OF MEDICAL WISDOM ARE BEING CALLED INTO QUESTION SUGGESTING THAT SOME PEOPLE WITH HEART DISEASE MIGHT BE UNDERGOING SURGERY THEY DON’T NEED. AND AS JAELA BERNSTIEN EXPLAINS, IN MANY CASES MEDICATION MAY DO THE TRICK.>>Reporter: ROBIN LOBB IS 52 YEARS OLD AND HAS SUFFERED THREE CARDIAC EVENTS.>>I FELT THAT I HAD A BAD CHEST COLD. AND I’M LOOKING ALL AROUND MY APARTMENT FOR SOME ICY HOT TO RUB ON MY CHEST. AND THEN I REALISED THAT I COULDN’T PUSH THE BATHROOM DOOR OPEN.>>Reporter: HE RECEIVED A STENT IMPLANT TWO YEARS AGO TO PROP OPEN HIS ARTERY BUT HE WISHES THAT THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT OTHER OPTIONS.>>THEY SAY WE HAVE TO TELL YOU THE RISK. ONE IN A THOUSAND THAT SOMETHING COULD GO, YOU KNOW, TERRIBLY WRONG. IT JUST LEAVES YOU, LIKE, SCARED.>>Reporter: A STUDY RELEASED THIS WEEKEND LOOKED AT MORE THAN 5,000 PATIENTS, ALL WITH SIMM SEM. THAT’S WHEN A CORONARY ARTERY NARROWS AND BLOOD FLOW TO THE HEART IS REDUCED. IT CAN CAUSE PERIODIC CHEST PAIN. RESEARCHES ARE FOUND STABLE PATIENTS TREATED WITH ONLY MEDICATION AND LIFESTYLE CHANGES WERE NO MORE AT RISK OF A HEART ATTACK OR DEATH THAN THOSE WHO RECEIVED STENTS AND BY-PASS SURGERIES.>>FOR THE ROUGHLY 25% OF PATIENTS WHO UNDERGO THESE PROCEDURES ELECTIVELY, WHO HAVE NO SYMPTOMS, WE SHOULD REALLY STOP DOING THAT.>>Reporter: THE STUDY DIDN’T APPLY TO PEOPLE SUFFERING FROM A HEART ATTACK OR WHO HAVE CHEST PAIN AT REST. AND SURGERY COULD STILL IMPROVE SOMEONE’S QUALITY OF LIFE.>>THOSE PROCEDURES HELP TO CONTROL SYMPTOMS, BUT I THINK THAT IT’S IMPORTANT FOR PATIENTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT IT’S SAFE NOT TO UNDERGO THESE PROCEDURES.>>Reporter: THIS MONTRÉAL CARDIOLOGIST IS NOT SURPRISED. HE SAYS THAT SOME CARDIOLOGISTS HAVE BEEN GOING IN THAT DIRECTION.>>I THINK THAT DOCTORS AND PATIENTS SHOULD HAVE A CONVERSATION TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHY WE’RE DOING THIS PROCEDURE. I THINK THAT THERE’S A LOT OF PATIENTS WHO THINK THAT THEY’LL LIVE LONGER IF YOU UNBLOCK THE ARTERY. AND I THINK THAT WHAT WE SEE FROM THIS DATA IS THAT IS NOT THE CASE.>>Reporter: THOSE CONVERSATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. RESEARCHERS PLAN TO FOLLOW THE STUDY PARTICIPANTS FOR ANOTHER FIVE YEARS TO SEE WHETHER THE RESULTS SHIFT OVER THE LONG TERM. JAELA BERNSTIEN, CBC NEWS, MONTRÉAL.>>Ian: MORE NEWS AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL.” THE SHORT VIDEO APP TIK TOK IS EXPLODING IN POPULARITY, BUT U.S. GOVERNMENT AGENCIES ARE RAISING RED FLAGS OVER SECURITY CONCERNS. WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW NEXT.>>>PLUS, INSIDE SICK KIDS’ INTENSIVE CARE UNIT — SORT OF. WHY THE HOSPITAL IS GIVING PEOPLE A DRAMATIC LOOK INSIDE IN AN ELABORATE MOCK-UP OF THEIR INTENSIVE CARE WARD.>>>FIRST AS WE GO TO BREAK, AN UPDATE ON A YOUNG WOMAN WHO REALLY STRUCK A CHORD WITH CANADIANS. THE FIRST TIME MOST OF US MET MADDISON YETMAN WE KNEW THAT SHE DIDN’T HAVE LONG TO LIVE. THE 18-YEAR-OLD FROM WINNIPEG SAID SO IN A VIDEO THAT SHE POSTED ONLINE DURING LAST MONTH’S FEDERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN. SHE’D BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH TERMINAL CANCER AND SHE WAS URGING EVERYONE TO GET OUT TO VOTE BECAUSE, AS SHE SAID –>>IF I CAN FIND THE TIME TO VOTE, YOU CAN FIND THE TIME TO VOTE.>>Ian: THIS MORNING MADDISON’S UNCLE ANNOUNCED HER DEATH ON TWITTER, SAYING THAT SHE WAS STRONGER THAN ANYONE COULD IMAGINE AND LEFT A WONDERFUL MARK ON THIS WORLD. HER VIDEO HAS BEEN VIEWED ABOUT 800,000 TIMES. (*) (*) * I CAN’T NO MORE >>Ian: IT HELPED TO BOOST THE POPULARITY OF ONE OF THIS YEAR’S BIGGEST SONGS. YOUNG ACTIVISTS USE IT TO GET THEIR MESSAGE OUT. (*) THE NFL TO ATTRACT A NEW GENERATION OF FANS. AND EVEN THE U.S. ARMY USED IT AS A CONTROVERSIAL RECRUITMENT TOOL. TIK TOK, ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING APPS IN THE WORLD IS MAKING A MAJOR PUSH INTO CANADA. BUT AS TASHAUNA REID TELLS US, IT HAS SOME U.S. LAWMAKERS AND TECH COMPANIES WORRIED. (*)>>Reporter: IN AS LITTLE AS 15 SECONDS CREATORS LIP-SYNC AND DANCE AND PERFORM ALL WITH THE HOPES OF GETTING NOTICED. THIS IS TIK TOK, A CHINESE-OWNED VIDEO-SHARING APP WITH 1.5 BILLION USERS WORLDWIDE. (*) FRIENDS BLOW UP QUICKLY, FROM CHOREOGRAPHED DANCE CHALLENGES TO ARTS AND CRAFTS AND JUST THE PLAIN OLD SILLY.>>MY NAME IS ERIC STRUK AND I’M FAMOUS ON TIK TOK.>>Reporter: 18-YEAR-OLD ERIC STRUK IS ONE OF THE TOP TIK TOK CREATORS. HIS VIDEOS HAVE ATTRACTED 3. FOLLOWERS IN ONE YEAR.>>IT’S NOT LIKE HIGH PRODUCTION. 6 MILLION IT’S LIKE GRAB YOUR PHONE AND TAKE A VIDEO AND YOU POST IT. AND THAT FEELING OF BEING SO CONNECTED TO SOMEBODY AND MAKING IT SO NATURAL, IT JUST FEELS SO GOOD.>>Reporter: HE’S ALSO MAKING MONEY. THROUGH BRAND PARTNERSHIPS AND HE SAYS THAT HE’S EARNED SIX FIGURES. TIK TOK’S USER DEMOGRAPHIC IS A SWEET SPOT FOR ADVERTISERS AND BRANDS, SAYS THIS EXPERT.>>13 TO 24-YEAR-OLDS ARE AT A TIME WHEN THEY’RE TRYING TO FIND OUT WHAT BRANDS THEY’RE INTERESTED IN. AND IF YOU CATCH THOSE USERS AT THAT STAGE IN THEIR LIFE, THEY COULD BE A LIFETIME CUSTOMER OF YOUR PRODUCT. (*)>>Reporter: IT’S WHY AMERICAN TECH COMPANIES ARE TRYING TO GET IN THE GAME. FACEBOOK IS TESTING A SIMILAR SHORT VIDEO MUSIC APP WHILE GOOGLE IS EYEING TO PURCHASE ONE. BUT TIK TOK ISN’T WITHOUT CONTROVERSY. THIS MONTH U.S. LAWMAKERS CALLED FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE BEIJING-BASED COMPANY, CITING NATIONAL SECURITY CONCERNS OVER ALLEGED ILLEGAL DATA COLLECTION AND CENSORSHIP.>>AS THEY INTERNATIONALIZE, THEY WILL HAVE TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT AND THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER TO LOCAL LAWS IN THE COUNTRY THEY OPERATE.>>Reporter: TIK TOK HAS DEFENDED ITS PRIVACY STANDARDS AND DENIED SHARING USER DATA WITH CHINESE AUTHORITIES. THE COMPANY SAYS THAT IT STORES ALL USER DATA IN THE UNITED STATES WITH BACKUPS IN SINGAPORE. AND SAY THEY’RE NOT REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH CHINESE LAW.>>THIS IS YOUR MOBILE STATE.>>Reporter: TIK TOK’S MAIN PRIORITY — EXPANSION. AND NOW IT’S MAKING A PUSH INTO CANADA. AT SOCIAL MEDIA WEEK IN TORONTO, THE COMPANY’S NEWLY APPOINTED CANADIAN WEED MADE A PITCH TO MARKETING AND BRANDING EXECUTIVES.>>SO WHAT ON EARTH IS TIK TOK? I THINK THAT IT’S INTERACTIVE THEATRE.>>Reporter: NO MENTION OF CONTROVERSY HERE, JUST A MESSAGE THAT TIK TOK IS JUST GETTING STARTED. TASHAUNA REID, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Ian: UP NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL”…>>>A GROUNDBREAKING ADDITION TO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS’ HALL OF FAME. * LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE * JUST LET IT SLIDE >>Ian: “LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE” IS THE FIRST OF ITS KIND TO GET THE DISTINCTION, SO ANDREW MET THE MAN BEHIND IT, MAESTRO FRESH-WES WHERE IT ALL BEGAN. “THE SUNDAY INTERVIEW” IS NEXT. (*) (*) (singing) (*) * LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE >>Ian: 30 YEARS AGO THAT SONG MADE CANADIAN MUSIC HISTORY, “LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE” BY MAESTRO FRESH-WES WAS THE FIRST GOLD RECORD BY A CANADIAN RAPPER. NOW IT’S MAKING HISTORY AGAIN. THIS THURSDAY IT WILL BE HONOURED AS THE FIRST RAP SONG TO BE INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS’ HALL OF FAME. ANDREW CAUGHT UP WITH MAESTRO FRESH-WES TO TALK ABOUT THE MEANING OF THIS MOMENT. * THIS IS A THROWDOWN * A SHOWDOWN * HELL NO, I CAN’T SLOW DOWN >>Andrew: WES WILLIAMS, A.K.A. MAESTRO FRESH-WES, HE LAID THE FOUNDATION FOR TODAY’S MEGA-STARS OF CANADIAN HIP-HOP. IN 1989, HIS DEBUT SINGLE WAS THE FIRST CANADIAN RAP SONG CERTIFIED GOLD. [Applause] (*) ITS SUCCESS FORCED A VERY WHITE, VERY CONSERVATIVE INDUSTRY, TO TAKE NOTICE.>>AND MAESTRO FRESH-WES IS HERE WITH ME. IT’S UNBELIEVABLE.>>Andrew: IN THE 1990s HE CONTINUED ATTRACTING ATTENTION WITH A UNIQUE STYLE THAT WAS UNABASHEDLY CANADIAN. (*) * THESE EYES * LET ME SAY IT AGAIN (*) * THESE EYES * SEEN A LOT OF HIGHS AND LOWS BUT THAT’S JUST THE WAY THAT LIFE GOES *>>Andrew: BUT FOR WES WILLIAMS, HIS LIFE HAS BEEN ABOUT MORE THAN JUST MUSIC. HE’S WORKED AS A MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER.>>AND WHEN YOU DO SOMETHING AND YOU SAY SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REMEMBER YOU YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS LATER.>>Andrew: AS AN ACTOR.>>HOW ARE THEY TREATING YOU SO FAR>>Andrew: AND HE’S NOT DONE ? YET. HE’S ALWAYS ON THE LOOKOUT FOR HIS NEXT PROJECT AND, OF COURSE, HE’S STILL HAVING AN IMPACT ON THE SCENE THAT HE HELPED BUILD. I SAT DOWN WITH WES WILLIAMS EARLIER THIS WEEK IN THE VERY PLACE THAT THE MAESTRO WAS BORN — PARKLAND MALL IN SCARBOROUGH, ONTARIO. HELLO, SIR, NICE TO MEET YOU. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME. THIS IS YOUR HOUSE?>>I DON’T KNOW THIS IS MY HOUSE BUT THIS IS WHERE I WROTE SOME SONGS BACK IN THE DAY.>>Andrew: SO TELL ME, WHAT DID YOU DO HERE?>>SECURITY BACK IN THE DAY. THAT WAS LIKE 1987, 1988 AND I TOOK THE GRAVEYARD SHIFT AND THAT WAY I COULD WORK ON MY DEMOS.>>Andrew: YOU TOOK THAT JOB SO YOU COULD WRITE LYRICS?>>BECAUSE IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR ME TO, LIKE, BE THERE WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING AND JUST CONCENTRATE ON MY MUSIC.>>Andrew: DID ANYTHING COME OUT OF YOUR TIME HERE?>>I WROTE THE SONG AND I DON’T KNOW IF YOU HEARD IT, IT’S CALLED “LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE.”>>Andrew: OH, YEAH, YEAH. [laughter] (*) LOOKING AROUND, I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE STARING AT YOU EVEN RIGHT NOW.>>YEAH.>>Andrew: BUT I BET THEY DON’T KNOW THAT THIS IS SORT OF HALLOWED GROUND WHEN IT COMES TO THE BIRTH OF THE MAESTRO.>>YEAH, NO DOUBT. THERE USED TO BE A TUXEDO ROYAL NOT TOO FAR IN THE MALL. I HAD A FRIEND NAMED OUR SMALLS AND I USED TO GO BY FRESH WES, AND HE SAID THAT FRESH WES IS COOL BUT YOU ARE FRESHER THAN FRESH WES AND YOU NEED A TITLE. SO I WAS THINKING OF A TITLE, SOMETHING TO PUT ON TOP OF MY NAME, YOU KNOW, AND I PASSED BY THE TUXEDO ROYAL THAT WAS USED THERE BY THE METRO THERE AND I GO MAESTRO. (*) (singing).>>Andrew: I SHOULD HAVE STARTED BY SAYING CONGRATULATIONS.>>WELL, THANK YOU.>>Andrew: “LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE” INDUCTED INTO THE CANADIAN SONGWRITERS’ HALL OF FAME.>>YEAH, YEAH.>>Andrew: THE FIRST RAP SONG EVER.>>YEAH, YEAH.>>Andrew: TO HAVE THAT RECOGNITION. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO YOU?>>THAT MEANS THAT IT’S GOOD FOR ME BUT GREAT FOR THE GENRE OF MUSIC AND GREAT FOR HIP-HOP. WE STARTED AT THE BOTTOM AND NOW WE’RE HERE DOING INTERNATIONAL THINGS. CANADA, WE’RE THE TOP OF THE GLOBAL FOOD CHAIN WHEN IT COMES TO MUSIC, YOU KNOW. AND I’M HONOURED TO BE PART OF THAT, THAT PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT I DO. AND I HAVE A SLOGAN, DON’T MAKE RECORDS, MAKE HISTORY. SO “LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE” IS PART OF THE HISTORY, THE CULTURAL IMPACT THAT IT MADE IN THIS COUNTRY, IT’S MONUMENTAL. SO I’M GLAD THAT I WROTE IT. AND THIS IS WHERE I WROTE IT RIGHT HERE.>>Andrew: 1990. YOU REMEMBER THIS? TOM COCHRANE IS INTRODUCING AND YOU YOU’RE PERFORMING AT THE 1990s JUNOS.>>CANADA I THINK IS KNOWN FOR A RICH HERITAGE OF FOLK ARTISTS AND FOLK MUSIC. — HERITAGE OF FOLK ARTISTS AND –>>Andrew: GORDON LIGHTFOOT AND LEONARD COHEN. AND THEN HE SAYS –>>THERE’S A NEW KIND OF MUSIC AND IT’S CALLED RAP MUSIC AND THIS IS CANADA’S CONTRIBUTION IN THAT AREA. HE’S A GREAT ARTIST. * THIS IS A THROWDOWN >>WICKED MAN. THAT’S DOPE, MAN. THAT WAS THE HIGHWAY, MAN, YOU KNOW? [laughter]>>Andrew: BUT DID YOU — DID YOU FEEL THEN LIKE YOU WERE — YOU WERE DOING SOMETHING GROUNDBREAKING?>>YEAH. DEFINITELY. I DIDN’T KNOW HOW GROUNDBREAKING BUT DEFINITELY, WE DEFINITELY KNEW THAT WE WERE DOING SOMETHING SPECIAL. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN ITS INFANCY HERE AND THAT CANADA HAD NEVER SEEN BEFORE. YOU FEEL ME? SO I KNEW — COME ON, IMAGINE PERFORMING AT THE JUNOS. (*) * JUST LET IT SLIDE * JUST LET IT SLIDE WHO DID THAT BEFORE? I’M DEFINITELY ON TO SOMETHING. GETTING NOMINATED. I DIDN’T WIN THAT YEAR BUT I WAS NOMINATED FOR “DANCE” BECAUSE THEY HAD NO CATEGORY.>>Andrew: YEAH, YEAH.>>I’M THE REASON WHY THERE’S A JUNOR FOR BEST RAP RECORDING OF THE YEAR.>>Andrew: THAT’S WHY THEY CALL YOU THE GODFATHER.>>THE GRANDFATHER, YOU KNOW WHAT I’M SAYING? BUT I’M THAT REASON, MAN.>>Andrew: I WANT TO PUT YOU A LITTLE BIT ON THE SPOT HERE. IS THERE — IS THERE ANOTHER SONG THAT YOU WROTE THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU FEEL LIKE PEOPLE DON’T — DON’T APPRECIATE AS MUCH AS YOU WISHED THEY HAD BECAUSE IT’S A SONG THAT WAS KIND OF REALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU AND YOU THOUGHT THAT IT WAS — HAD AN IMPACT AND IT WAS POWERFUL. SOMETHING THAT WAS MEANINGFUL TO YOU?>>I MEAN, MY FAVOURITE SONG I EVER WROTE IS A SONG CALLED “I KNOW YOUR MOM” AND THAT’S KIND OF DOPE. [laughter] THAT’S MY FAVOURITE SONG I EVER WROTE. IT’S IN THE TOP 10 OF PEOPLE’S FAVOURITES? NO. BUT FOR ME I KNOW THAT YOUR MOM IS A DOPE RECORD. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT HAS IMPACT. * I KNOW YOUR MOM * HER NAME IS TRACY AND DON’T MAKE ME SAY THINGS BECAUSE SHE’S A NICE LADY *>>Andrew: WELL, GIVE ME SOME INSIGHT INTO YOU, WHY THAT ONE?>>FROM AN INTERGENERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, WHERE THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GREW UP LISTENING TO MY MUSIC BUT A LOT OF THE YOUNG GENERATION DIDN’T NECESSARILY KNOW WHO I AM. BUT, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU LOOK FAMILIAR. I KNOW YOUR MOM. SO THAT’S KIND OF — SO IT WAS WITTY AND IT WAS FUN BUT IT WAS ALSO SO — A TOUCH OF SOCIAL COMMENTARY, BUT INTERGENERATIONAL.>>Andrew: I THINK ABOUT POWERFUL SONGWRITING AND CAN I TELL YOU WHAT SONG COMES TO MY MIND?>>PLEASE, YEAH.>>Andrew: “NOTHING AT ALL.”>>”NOTHING AT ALL” IS ONE OF THEM, YEAH.>>Andrew: RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, IN THAT SONG –>>YEAH.>>Andrew: YOU SAY A LOT OF POWERFUL, IMPORTANT THINGS.>>* SO LISTEN * I WANT AN EXPLANATION * WHY THEY ARE KICKED OUT * EVICTION * AND THE NATIVE MAN OF THE LAND IS WHO YOU’RE KILLING * (*) * FRAMING EVERY MAN * I HATE TO SEE WHAT Y’ALL GOT PLANNED FOR MY PEOPLE * THAT’S A VERY IMPORTANT RECORD.>>Andrew: WHY DID YOU WRITE THAT?>>BECAUSE I FELT THAT I’M BLESSED TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE CHECKING ME. AND LABELS ARE MAD AT ME AND THEY WANT TO HEAR ANOTHER “BACKBONE” AND ANOTHER PARTY RECORD AND I CAN DO ALL OF THOSE TOO. BUT LET ME SAY SOMETHING RIGHT HERE AND THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO DO. I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING THAT WAS NOTEWORTHY, YOU FEEL ME? SO THAT SONG RIGHT THERE IS THE FIRST CANADIAN HIP-HOP RECORD ON SOCIAL COMMENTARY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY.>>Andrew: HAS HIP-HOP LIVED UP TO ITS POTENTIAL IN THEN IN YOUR MIND? WHEN YOU THINK OF POWERFUL SONGS AND WHAT THE GENRE CAN DO –>>THAT’S AN INTERESTING QUESTION. I THINK THAT IT HAS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF ARCHITECTS AND DOCTORS AND YOU’VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO GREW UP AND IN THE FORMATIVE YEARS WERE LISTENING TO HIP-HOP AND PUBLIC ENEMY AND SERIOUS PROFESSIONALS MAKING AN IMPACT ON THE GLOBE.>>Andrew: OKAY, BUT THEN EXPLAIN FOR ME THE I AM EMPTY, AND 30 YEARS OF QUOTES AND TALKING ABOUT RAPPER COMING UP, RIGHT? AND YOU BOZOS GOT NO FOCUS.>>THAT’S RIGHT. * ALL YOU BOZOS GOT NO FOCUS (*) BECAUSE AN ELEMENT OF HIP-HOP IS ALWAYS THE BATTLE. SO I COULD BE 30 YEARS FROM NOW AND MY OBJECTIVE OF M.C. AND A PART OF THAT IS TAKING SOMEONE’S HEAD OFF LYRICALLY. BUT IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT “DIE EMPTY,” WHAT AM I REALLY, REALLY SAYING? THAT I WILL WANT TO CONTINUE MAKING MUSIC UNTIL I DON’T HAVE ANY MUSIC LEFT IN ME. SO WE COULD DISSECT CERTAIN PARTS OF THAT WHICH I’M ADDRESSING, BUT I’M SAYING THAT THE REASON THAT I WROTE “DIE EMPTY” IS SPECIFICALLY TO SAY THAT ARTISTS LIKE ME, I’M GOING TO CONTINUE DOING MUSIC AS LONG AS I CAN. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ARTISTS LIKE ROLLING STONES, THEY’RE STILL MAKING MUSIC AND DOING STUFF. AND PUBLIC ENEMY, THEY’RE STILL MAKING MUSIC. THEY’RE GOING TO DIE EMPTY, THERE’S GOING TO BE NO MUSIC LEFT. THAT’S WHAT I WANT TO ENCOURAGE ARTISTS TO DO.>>Andrew: ARE YOU FEELING THAT THE YOUNGER GUYS ARE DROPPING THE BALL IN A WAY? THEY COULD USE THEIR PLATFORM SO MUCH MORE?>>IS THERE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION? ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY. BUT IT’S UP TO ME TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE. ARTISTS OF MY GENERATION TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND THAT’S WHAT I’M DOING. SO I’M PROUD OF MY LAST ALBUM, YOU FEEL WHAT I’M SAYING, I AM PROUD THAT I STILL HAVE THE ENERGY TO CONTINUE TO EVOLVE AND CONTINUE PUSHING MYSELF. THE THING WITH ME, I DIDN’T HAVE ANY ARTISTS THAT WERE OLDER THAN ME TO LACK UP TO TO MAKE RECORDS OUT OF CANADA. I HAVE BEEN TRAINING AS A YOUNG AGE FORMATIVELY TO LISTEN TO THE YOUNGER ONES AND ASKS QUESTIONS. THAT’S HOW I GROW. IF IT WASN’T FOR ME HUMBLING MYSELF AND LISTENING TO THESE ARTISTS COMING UP, I STILL WOULDN’T BE ABLE TO DO WHAT I’M DOING RIGHT NOW, YOU FEEL WHAT I’M SAYING? I’M 51 YEARS OLD AND MY BACKBONES ARE STILL SLIDING, MAN. * MY LYRICS ARE AWESOME * AND THE BLACK IS BLUE * AND THE BLAST OF THE BLADES * IT’S A BLOOD SPORT * MAKE YOUR VISION GO BLURRY WHILE YOUR MIND GOES BLANK * INTO OBLIVION * (*) * LET YOUR BACKBONE SLIDE WRITTEN HERE RIGHT IN PARKWAY MALL AND SCARBOROUGH, I WROTE THAT AROUND 2:00 a.m..>>Andrew: YOU REMEMBER THE MOMENT?>>RIGHT DOWN TO THE MOMENT. RIGHT AROUND 2:00 a.m.>>Andrew: HEY, MAESTRO, THIS WAS REALLY NICE TALKING TO YOU.>>Ian: IT’S TIME FOR A QUICK BREAK. UP NEXT WE’LL TAKE YOU INSIDE A DRAMATIC AND INTENSE FUNDRAISING EVENT. IT PUTS YOU IN THE CENTRE OF A PERSONAL CRISIS. DAVID COMMON SPENDS THE DAY IN A MOCK I.C.U.>>>BUT FIRST, HERE’S ADRIAN WITH A PART OF AN INTERVIEW THAT YOU WILL SEE HERE TOMORROW NIGHT.>>Adrienne: SOMEONE IS ABOUT TO HAVE A BIG BIRTHDAY AND MAYBE MARGARET ATWOOD HAS ALREADY HAD HER GIFT. HER BOOK “THE TESTAMENTS” HAS BROKEN RECORDS.>>THIS IS MORE THAN A BOOK RELEASE. THIS IS A CULTURAL MOMENT.>>Adrienne: THE SOON-TO-BE 80-YEAR-OLD CO-WON THE MAN BOOKER PRIZE. AND THERE’S A PROJECT FOR SO DEEP INTO THE FUTURE THAT NO ONE ALIVE WILL EVER GET TO SEE WHAT IT IS. COULD YOU THROW A GIRL A BONE? IN TERMS OF WHAT IT’S ABOUT?>>NOPE, NOPE, NOPE. YOU HAVE TO SWEAR IT TO SECRECY.>>Adrienne: THERE IS A LOT TO TALK ABOUT AND SO SITTING DOWN IN THE PLACE THAT HOLDS SO MANY OF HER TREASURED NOTES JUST SEEMED THE RIGHT THING TO DO. THAT IS TOMORROW ON “THE NATIONAL.” (*)>>Ian: TORONTO’S HOSPITAL FOR SICK CHILDREN IS UNDER PRESSURE. IT HAS AN I.C.U. THAT IS OUTDATED AND OVERCROWDED. THE TASK OF RAISING ENOUGH MONEY TO EXPAND IS MONUMENTAL. DAVID COMMON CAUGHT WIND OF AN UNUSUAL FUNDRAISER, FOR PARTICIPANTS BOTH HEARTRENDING AND EYE-OPENING.>>[indiscernible]>>YOU GOT A PULSE?>>[indiscernible]>>Reporter: IT TAKES JUST SECONDS AFTER THE ALARM SOUNDS FOR THE PAEDIATRIC TEAM TO POUR IN.>>ARE YOU OKAY, DO YOU NEED –>>Reporter: IN THE NATION’S LARGEST CHILDREN’S HOSPITAL, ONE OF ITS TINIEST PATIENTS IS IN DEEP DISTRESS.>>[indiscernible]>>Reporter: THIS IS THE I.C.U. AT SICK KIDS. OR A MOCK-UP OF IT ANYWAY. A NEAR EXACT REPLICA OF THE REAL THING…>>[indiscernible]>>Reporter: AND YOU’LL NEVER GUESS HOW WE FOUND IT. IT SHOWED UP ON AIRBNB, WHERE A BED COST NEARLY $2,500. THE REAL COST OF RUNNING THE I.C.U. FOR JUST ONE PATIENT A DAY.>>HI.>>HI.>>HELLO.>>Reporter: THOSE WHO FUNDRAISED, LIKE THIS GROUP FROM I.B.M., HELP THE HOSPITAL FINANCIALLY AND IN RETURN GET A CLOSE-UP EXPERIENCE.>>IT’S A TOUGH EXPERIENCE. YOU ARE GOING TO HEAR SOUNDS AND YOU’RE GOING TO SEE THINGS AND YOU’RE GOING TO START THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT PERHAPS YOU HAVE NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT.>>Reporter: DR. LENNOX WANG RUNS THE REAL I.C.U. JUST A FEW HALLWAYS AWAY. HE SET UP ROLES FOR EACH OF US PARTICIPATING AND THAT INCLUDES ME.>>SO WE HAVE CARDS OF A KID, JORDAN 5, FROM BRAMPTON, ONTARIO, NOT EVEN AN HOUR FROM HERE. AND THE STORY FOR JORDAN IS THAT JORDAN HAD A FEVER, SHORTNESS OF BREATH AND ENDED UP HERE AT THE SICK KIDS WHEN IT GOT WORSE. AND NOW IT’S BEEN DIAGNOSED AS LEFT SIDE PNEUMONIA. SO WHY GO THROUGH SUCH AN ELABORATE EXERCISE? THIS IS ABOUT CHANGE, THE REAL I.C.U. IS JUST AS CRAMPED. FOUR PATIENTS TO A ROOM, THEIR PARENTS SQUISHED IN, AND MORE THAN ONE GUEST AT A TIME, MOM AND DAD, FOR INSTANCE. NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE. AND THEN YOU ADD IN THE MEDICAL TEAMS AND INEVITABLY THE NEED TO DELIVER BAD NEWS IN A SPACE THAT’S FAR FROM PRIVATE. EVEN IN A MOCK-UP, THIS IS HARD FOR ANY PARENT.>>SO THEY PUT THE HEADPHONES IN AND I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY BECAUSE BEING SO CLOSE THERE’S OBVIOUSLY PRIVACY CONCERNS.>>MR. AND MRS. PATEL, AS YOU KNOW JORDAN’S SEIZURES HAVE PROGRESSIVELY GETTING WORSE. AFTER LOOKING OVER HIS MOST RECENT IMAGING NUMEROUS TIMES, THEY HAVE REVEALED AN ADVANCED GRADE TUMOUR. DO YOU WANT TO TELL ANY RELATIVES TO COME TO SEE JORDAN AND SAY GOODBYE? YOU SHOULD SOON. I AM SO VERY SORRY.>>IT’S TIGHT, IT’S HARD. I MEAN, WE ARE SHIMMYING BESIDE, AND THERE’S NO SPACE, NO PERSONAL SPACE.>>Reporter: YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THESE ANNOUNCEMENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE VERY HARD TO KEEP YOUR MIND STRAIGHT AND GET SLEEP. AND YET, YOU KNOW, IT’S SOMETHING ELSE WATCHING THE STAFF TRYING TO DO GYMNASTICS AROUND ONE ANOTHER AND WORKING IN A REALLY TIGHT SMALL SPACE TO TRY TO PULL THIS OFF. BASICALLY TO TRY TO KEEP A KID ALIVE. WHILE THE CHILD PATIENTS IN THE I.C.U. ARE OFTEN SEDATED, THEY AND THEIR PARENTS CAN STILL BE EXPOSED TO TRAUMA. ONE IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN HERE.>>EMERGENCY ROOM 14. EMERGENCY ROOM 14.>>[indiscernible]>>CONTINUE CHEST COMPRESSIONS.>>Reporter: THIS IS TERRIFYING. BUT IT’S ALSO WORKING. A REALISTIC PORTRAIT THAT HAS HELPED DRIVE A BIG JUMP IN DONATIONS. ALL PART OF THE PLANS TO BUILD A NEW HOSPITAL, ONE WITH MORE PRIVACY, FRANKLY, ROOM FOR MOMS AND DADS TO BE THERE TOGETHER.>>CAN WE DO A BLOOD PRESSURE?>>Reporter: DR. ALICE MICHAEL-MOGA KNOWS HOW EMOTIONALLY DRAINING THIS CAN BE.>>AND WHAT ARE THE WORDS THAT JUMP OUT TO PEOPLE THAT YOU EXPERIENCED?>>I’D SAY INTENSE. I’D SAY SURPRISING, SHOCKING.>>I DON’T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST TRIPPING OVER EVERYTHING REALLY. I’M JUST AMAZED.>>THIS IS A WORLD-CLASS INSTITUTION AND WE DELIVER WORLD-CLASS CARE BUT YOU DON’T REALIZE THAT WE’RE DOING IT IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS NOT EVEN LIKE IT’S NEUTRAL. IT ACTUALLY HURTS US, IT MAKES OUR JOB MORE DIFFICULT AS OPPOSED TO HELPING US EVERY SINGLE DAY.>>Reporter: THE AIM IS THAT THAT WILL CHANGE, THAT NO ONE WANTS TO BE IN THE PAEDIATRIC I.C.U., BUT IF YOU HAVE NO CHOICE THE HOPE IS TO MAKE IT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR PATIENTS, PARENTS AND STAFF. DAVID COMMON, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Ian: A CHANGE OF PACE COMING UP. “THE MOMENT” UP NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL.” A MOMENT OF ON-ICE TEAM BUILDING AFTER A PRE-GAME BREAKDOWN RIGHT AFTER THIS. (*)>>Ian: I BET THAT YOU’VE NEVER SEEN THIS BEFORE. FOR A MINOR HOCKEY TEAM ON PRINCE EDWARD ISLAND, THE ONLY WAYS THEY WERE GOING TO GET TO PLAY WAS TO JUMP ON THE ICE AND PUSH. THAT’S BECAUSE THE RINK’S ZAMBONI BROKE DOWN, AND THE TEAM, BY THE WAY, WENT ON TO WIN THE GAME. BUT THAT WAS ONLY THE ICING ON THE CAKE OF A MEMORABLE NIGHT. THE STORY OF HOW THAT HAPPENED IS OUR “MOMENT.” (*)>>HURRY, HURRY HARD.>>THE ZAMBONI BROKE DOWN AND WE HEARD A BIG THUD AND IT STOPPED AT ONE END OF THE RINK AND IT WAS THE FAR END OF THE RINK. AND SO THE FIRST THING THAT CAME THROUGH MY MIND IS THAT WE WOULDN’T GET THE GAME IN. AND THE SECOND THING IS, I WONDER IF THE GUYS WILL COME OUT AND PUSH IT DOWN THE LENGTH OF THE ICE, LIKE A BOBSLEIGH.>>SKATE, SKATE, SKATE.>>WE JUST KIND OF WANTED TO GET THE GAME GOING BECAUSE WE WERE RUNNING A BIT LATE. SO IT WAS NOT GOING TO PUSH ITSELF.>>WE HAVE 16 SKATERS AND TWO GOALIES AND I’M SURE THAT EVERYBODY CHIPPED IN.>>IT WAS PRETTY HEAVY AND IT TOOK THE WHOLE TEAM TO GET IT OFF.>>IT WAS A PRETTY GOOD GAME FOR US, YEAH. WE MANAGED TO WIN THE GAME.>>A WIN IS GOOD BUT YOU GET THAT, AND IT’S EXTRA SPECIAL. A COOL THING TO REMEMBER.>>A GOOD NIGHT. A LOT OF FUN AND A LOT OF LAUGHS. GREAT TEAM BUILDING THAT YOU DIDN’T PLAN TO DO.>>Ian: FIRST OF ALL, IT CLEARLY IS HARDER TO PUSH A ZAMBONI ON ICE THAN I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT. YOU SAW AT THE BEGINNING HOW THOSE KIDS WERE DIGGING INTO THE ICE. AND THE OTHER THING, OF COURSE, WE’RE IN A TIME RIGHT NOW, IN THE LAST 10 DAYS OR SO WITH A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOCKEY AND WHERE IT FITS INTO THE CANADIAN COMMUNITY. AND THAT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE AS HE SAID OF TEAM BUILDING EXERCISE.>>>THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 17th. GOODNIGHT.

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