The National for June 9, 2019 — Plastics Ban, Raptors Game 5, Hong Kong Protests

The National for June 9, 2019 — Plastics Ban, Raptors Game 5, Hong Kong Protests


>>Rosemary: TONIGHT, OTTAWA SAYS IT’S TIME TO SAY GOOD-BYE TO SINGLE-USE PLASTICS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYS PLASTIC BAGS, CUTLERY, PLATES, STRAWS, AND MORE WILL BE BANNED AS EARLY AS 2021. SO WHAT’S THE ALTERNATIVE?>>Andrew: SHE SAYS SHE FACED DEMEANING TREATMENT AT THE HANDS OF CANADIAN BORDER AGENCIES. WE FIND OUT THAT IT’S THE ONLY AGENCY IN THE COUNTRY THAT INVESTIGATORS ITSELF.>>Rosemary: AND ONE MORE WIN. >>IT’S TOTALLY WORTH IT. THIS IS HISTORY BEING MADE. >>Rosemary: RAPTORS FANS CAMPED OUTSIDE JURASSIC PARK, HOPING TO WITNESS HISTORY TOMORROW NIGHT. IS TORONTO READY? IS CANADA READY? THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” [*]>>Rosemary: CBC NEWS HAS LEARNED TOMORROW MORNING, THE GOVERNMENT IS MOVING TO BAN SINGLE-USE PLASTICS IN THIS COUNTRY. IT COMES AFTER AN INTERNATIONAL PROMISE TO REDUCE PLASTIC IN THE ENVIRONMENT. THIS WOULD BE A FULL BAN, ESTABLISHED BY A PRIVATE SECTOR OVERTIME. — >>Reporter: STILL, MANY NOW SAY THERE’S A SENSE OF URGENCY. >>CANADA SAYS THEY WANT TO TAKE ACTION, BUT IT’S CLEARLY DRIVEN BY THE OUTRAGE OF CONTINUED PROMISES FOR ACTION WITH NO ACTION COMING FORTH. >>Reporter: CERTAINLY SOME INTERNATIONAL OUTRAGE AS CANADIAN WASTE ROTTING IN THE PHILIPPINES AND MALAYSIA LED TO DIPLOMATIC TROUBLES AND HEADLINES. WITH MONDAY’S ANNOUNCEMENT, THE TRUDEAU LIBERALS WILL TRY TO CONVINCE THE PUBLIC THAT IT’S THE ONE WITH A PLAN. THE FEDERAL CONSERVATIVES WILL OUTLINE THEIR PLAN LATER THIS MONTH. SALIMA SHIVJI, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Rosemary: THERE ARE ALREADY SEVERAL COMMUNITIES ON THEIR WAY TO TACKLING SINGLE-USE PLASTICS.>>IF YOU WANT WATER DRIP COFFEE, THIS IS WHEN YOU’RE GOING TO GET HERE. >>Reporter: A COMMON SOUND AT THE BLUE HOUSE CAFE MARKET. IT’S TRYING TO GO ZERO WASTE, AND CUSTOMERS BRING IN REUSABLE CONTAINERS. >>THESE ARE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO USE. >>Reporter: THE MARKET WANTED TO DO EVEN MORE ITSELF AFTER LEADING A SUCCESSFUL PUSH FOR A TOTAL PLASTIC STRAW BAN IN THIS TORONTO NEIGHBORHOOD. HONEY DOUGHNUTS OWNER SAYS IT’S WORTH IT. >>IF YOU LOOK AT THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF CLEANING THE ENVIRONMENT, IT’S COSTING EVERYBODY MORE MONEY. >>Reporter: HE WELCOMES A COMPLETE BAN ON SINGLE-USE ITEMS. >>IF THERE’S AN OPTION, OF COURSE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO USE THE PLASTIC, BUT IF YOU DON’T GIVE THEM AN OPTION, THEY’RE NOT GOING TO USE IT. >>. >>Reporter: AND CUSTOMERS FLOCKING TO THE DOUGHNUT SHOP ARE LOVING THE CHANGE. >>IT WORKS JUST AS GOOD AS ANY OTHER STRAW. IT DOESN’T BOTHER ME AT ALL. IT’S NICE THAT IT’S RECYCLABLE OR COMPOSTABLE.>>Reporter: WHILE SOME BUSINESSES SAY IT’S NOT A BIG DEAL, RESTAURANTS SAY IT’S MORE OF A CHALLENGE. SOME SAY UNDER A TOTAL BAN, IT WOULD BE TOUGH TO MANAGE TAKEOUT ORDERS. BUT FROM DRINK CONTAINERS TO COFFEE LIDS, PLASTIC IS STILL EVERYWHERE IN THIS ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS COMMUNITY. MANY HERE DO HOPE IT WILL BE ELIMINATED ENTIRELY. ANITA BASS, CBC NEWS, NORTH VANCOUVER.>>Rosemary: A PLASTICS BAN COULD OF COURSE MEAN HAVING TO FIND AN ALTERNATIVE. A STUDY FOUND THAT PLASTIC BAGS USE LESS WATER AND ENERGY TO PRODUCE THAN PAPER AND THOSE REUSABLE COTTON BAGS. RESEARCHERS ALSO FOUND THAT A PAPER BAG NEEDS TO BE USED FOUR TIMES, AND A COTTON BAG USED 131 TIMES TO MATCH THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF A PLASTIC BAG. SO THE IDEA, AN DREDREW, IS JUST TO USE THEM AND USE THEM AND USE THEM.>>Andrew: THIS COULD BE ANY “BOHEMIAN RHAPSODBAR IN ANYWHERE IN CANADA RIGHT NOW, BUT IT’S NOT. THIS VIDEO COMES FROM SHANGHAI, CHINA. SO WE, THE NORTH, AND EVERY WHERE ELSE, TOO. PEOPLE AND PUPS ALIKE ARE PRACTICALLY LIVING IN THEIR RAPTS GEAR. >>I’VE BEEN LIVING IN THIS THE WHOLE FINALS. >>Reporter: HAVE YOU WASHED IT?>>YES. >>Andrew: THERE HAVE BEEN QUIRKIER TRENDS, LIKE SPELLING RAPTORS ON YOUR RUNNING ROUTE, AND THAT NAME GIVING RISE TO A NEW NAME.>>IT WAS A JOKE TO THE TEAM BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING RAPTOR FOOT, RAPTOR FOOT. >>Andrew: NO QUESTION, FANS ARE READY. THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES SPOKE ABOUT THAT TODAY, AND IF THINGS DO GO THE RAPTORS WAY TOMORROW, THE CITY ITSELF WILL HAVE TO BE PREPARED. LISA SHENG TAKES US THROUGH IT ALL.>>Reporter: JUST BLOCKS AWAY FROM WHERE THE RAPTORS PRACTICE AND PLAY IN DOWNTOWN TORONTO, DEDICATED FANS WORK ON THEIR OWN THREE-POINTERS. >>KAWHI IS MY FAVORITE PLAYER. >>Reporter: WHY?>>BECAUSE HE GETS SOME CLUTCH BUCKETS, AND HE’S ALWAYS HERE FOR US. >>Reporter: MOST OF THESE PLAYERS COME TO THIS COURT EVERY WEEKEND, BUT THERE’S A DIFFERENT KIND OF ENERGY TODAY. THEIR TEAM, NOW CANADA’S TEAM IS SO CLOSE. >>I MEAN, IT’S BIG FOR OUR COUNTRY. WE ONLY HAVE ONE TEAM IN THE NBA. IT’S TORONTO. >>IT’S A PRETTY BIG ACHIEVEMENT AND THERE’S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT IN SCHOOL AND OUT OF SCHOOL. >>Reporter: TODAY, THE BIGGEST STAR GAVE A SHOUTOUT TO THE FANS. >>JUST ENJOY THE SUPPORT AND THE ENERGY THEY’RE BRINGING TO THE TEAM.>>Reporter: ENERGY COULD BE A BIT OF AN UNDERSTATEMENT. IF THE RAPTORS WIN TOMORROW, EXPECT THE CITY TO ERUPT IN CELEBRATION, AND SCENES LIKE THESE FROM RECENT WINS COULD PALE IN COMPARISON. TORONTO POLICE WON’T SAY WHAT THEIR CROWD CONTROL PLAN IS, BUT THEY’LL ONLY SAY THAT THEY’RE WORKING WITH THE CITY. TOMORROW, CONCRETE BARRIERS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE AND MORE OFFICERS WILL BE PATROLLING. >>WE’VE SEEN THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN ONE OF THE BIGGEST CITIES IN NORTH AMERICA CELEBRATING PEACEFULLY. >>Reporter: THIS SPORTS WRITER SAYS IT’S BEEN DECADES SINCE SHE’S SEEN THE CITY SO ENAMORED WITH A TEAM. >>IT’S REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW EVERYBODY’S ADOPTED, AND THIS IS SO MUCH FOR ME THIS IS WHAT THE RAPTORS ARE ABOUT. THEY ARE LITERALLY SPREADING JOY.>>Reporter: AND EVEN IF TOMORROW DOESN’T GO THEIR WAY, REMEMBER, THERE ARE STILL TWO MORE CHANCES. LISA SHENG, CBC NEWS, TORONTO.>>Andrew: HERE’S THE CRAZY PART ABOUT ALL OF THIS. RAPTORS FANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN GATHERING IN JURASSIC PARK TO WATCH THE GAME ON THE BIG SCREEN. THAT IS A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL OF FAN DEDICATION. >>IT IS. SOME FANS ARRIVED ON FRIDAY, SOME ARRIVED ON SATURDAY, AND SOME HAVE ARRIVED TODAY. THERE’S PLENTY, PLENTY OF SUPPORT FOR THE RAPTORS. LOTS OF SIGNS HERE. WE’VE GOT IAN, ANDY, THE SIGN GUY, HOLDING THE SIGN HERE. ARE THERE RAPTORS FANS IN THE PHILIPPINES?>>OH, YEAH, RAPTORS FANS IN THE PHILIPPINES. >>Reporter: YOU ALSO HAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE WARRIORS. YOU WANT TO TURN THAT AROUND?>>WARRIORS EXIT THAT WAY. >>Reporter: ANDY, WHAT DOES ALL IN MEAN? ALL IN MEANS WE TRADE SOME OF THE OTHER PLAYERS AND WE GOT THE BEST PLAYERS, AND HOPEFULLY WE GOING TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, THAT WE GAMBLE AND EVERYBODY’S IN, NOT JUST FOR TORONTO, BUT THE WHOLE COUNTRY OF CANADA.>>Reporter: AND IAN, ARE THE RAPT I DON’T REMEMBERS RAPTORS GOING TO TAKE IT TOMORROW?>>YES. >>Reporter: SO THERE IS MY LUGGAGE, I’M GOING TO STAY HERE TONIGHT. WE’LL SEE HOW IT GOES. >>Andrew: I WISH YOU LUCK TONIGHT AND OVERNIGHT. YOU CAN BET WE’LL BE THERE TOMORROW WITH ALL-TO-WALL COVERAGE NO MATTER HOW THE GAME GOES. BUT LET’S PUT ONE MORE THING IN THE MIX, HOW THE RAPTORS FOUND THEIR WAY TO THE CANADIAN OPEN. THAT WAS RORY McILROY WITH THE WINNING SHOT, AND HOISTING A RAPTORS JERSEY IMMEDIATELY AFTER.>>Rosemary: NOW IN OTHER NEWS, IMAGES FROM HONG KONG, CITIZENS ARE IN A MASSIVE PROTEST OVER A NEW EXTRADITION LAW THAT WOULD ALLOW HONG KONG RESIDENTS TO BE MOVED TO MAINLAND CHINA FOR TRIAL. THERE IS A CONCERN THAT IT WOULD ERODE HONG KONG’S SEMIAUTONOMOUS LEGAL SYSTEM. THE RESPONSE ON THE STREETS HAS BEEN UNPRECEDENTED.>>Reporter: THE DAY ENDED VIOLENTLY, PROTESTERS PUSHING THROUGH BARRICADES TRYING TO DISRUPT HONG KONG’S LEGISLATURE AFTER A PROTEST THE HONG KONG GOVERNMENT ACKNOWLEDGED WAS PEACEFUL. THE CROWDS NOTED FOR THEIR SIZE AND DIVERSITY, FEAR OVER THE GOVERNMENT’S EXTRADITION BILL IS WIDESPREAD. >>I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO OPPOSE THIS EVIL LAW, THIS WOMAN SAYS. EVERYONE CAN FEEL THIS TODAY. THE PROPOSED LAW WOULD GIVE OFFICIALS IN BEIJING THE POWER TO BRING THOSE WANTS IN HONG KONG TO MAINLAND CHINA. >>THERE’S NO RULE OF LAW, NO FAIR TRIALS, NO — NO HUMANE PUNISHMENT GUARANTEES, SO — AND IT’S GOING TO AFFECT NOT JUST HONG KONGERS BUT ANYONE LIVING OR JUST PASSING THROUGH HONG KONG. THIS IS REALLY SCARY.>>Reporter: WHEN BRITAIN RETURNED HONG KONG TO CHINA IN 1997, IT WAS UNDER WHAT’S KNOWN AS THE ONE COUNTRY, TWO SYSTEMS FRAMEWORK, ALLOWING A SEPARATE LEGAL SYSTEM IN THE TERRITORY. IN A JOINT STATEMENT LAST MONTH, THE CANADIAN AND BRITISH SYSTEMS EXPRESSED CONCERN FOR THEIR CITIZENS IN HONG KONG, WARNING THE LAW COULD HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS. THE UNITED STATES HAS EXPRESSED SIMILAR CONCERNS. MUCH OF THE BACK LASH HAS BEEN DIRECTED AT BEIJING’S CHIEF EXECUTIVE, BUT IT’S UNCLEAR WHAT IMPACTS, IF ANY, THIS WILL HAVE. BEIJING APPOINTS MOST OF HONG KONG’S LAW MAKERS. DO YOU FEEL THAT THIS PROTEST WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE?>>NOT A THING. >>Reporter: THEN WHY DO IT?>>BECAUSE YOU FIGHT FOR IT UNTIL THE END. >>Reporter: IN A STATEMENT, THE GOVERNMENT OF HONG KONG SAID IT RESPECTS PEOPLE’S VIEWS AND PROMISED TO LISTEN TO CONCERNS. LINDSEY DUNCOMBE, CBC NEWS, WASHINGTON.>>Rosemary: CANADA IS HOME TO HALF A MILLION PEOPLE OF HONG KONG DESCENT, AND THERE WERE RALLIES IN SEVERAL CANADIAN CITIES TODAY.>>POWER TO THE PEOPLE. TOGETHER WE STAND.>>Rosemary: THIS WAS THE SCENE OUTSIDE THE CHINESE CONSULATE IN TORONTO TODAY. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PROTESTERS CARRYING YELLOW UMBRELLAS THAT BECAME A SYMBOL IN THE 2014 DEMOCRACY PROTEST. THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROTESTS OUTSIDE OF HONG KONG.>>>DOZENS OF PEOPLE IN CUBA ARE CALLING ON THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THE EMBASSY STOPPED PROCESSING VISA APPLICATIONS, AND THE CANADIAN CITIZENS DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT. >>Reporter: A DESPERATE PLEA FROM FAMILIES STUCK IN LIMBO. >>IF YOU ARE A COUNTRY THAT TRULY BENEFITS FROM IMMIGRATION, YOU OWE IT TO THESE PEOPLE TO FACILITATE ACCESSIBLE VISAS. >>CANADIANS SEPARATED FROM THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS MADE THIS VIDEO, AFTER THE EMBASSY SHUTDOWN THE VISA PROCESS IN CUBA AFTER WORKERS FELL MYSTERIOUSLY ILL AFTER COMPLAINING OF HEADACHES, DIZZINESS, AND NAUSEA THAT HAVE NEVER BEEN EXPLAINED. CANADIAN JACQUELINE STEIN LIVES IN CUBA WITH HER HUSBAND. SHE APPLIED TO SPONSOR HIM TO COME BACK WITH HER TO TORONTO, BUT NOW, SHE MAY HAVE TO LEAVE WITHOUT HIM. >>IT’S PRETTY HEARTBREAKING, ESPECIALLY BEING A NEW MOM. >>AMANDA REYE S IS TRYING TO GET A VISA FOR HER MOTHER-IN-LAW. IT COULD TAKE ANOTHER YEAR FOR THE APPLICATION TO CLEAR. >>IT’S LIKE THEY JUST DON’T CARE.>>Reporter: THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT HAS NO IMMEDIATE PLANS TO REOPEN APPLICATION PROCESSING IN HAVANA. >>WE HAVE EVERY INTENTION AND DESIRE OF CONTINUING TO PROVIDE STRONG CONSULARAND IMMIGRATION SUPPORT. AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE A REALLY STRONG RESPONSIBILITY AND DUTY OF CARE TO OUR DIPLOMATES, AND WE CAN’T EXPOSE THEM TO DANGER. >>Reporter: THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TELLING CUBANS TO TRAVEL TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO COMPLETE THEIR APPLICATIONS, AN EXPENSIVE AND TIME-CONSUMING PROCESS THAT’S SIMPLY OUTSIDE OF THE QUESTION FOR MANY. MOST CUBANS MAKE FEWER THAN 50 CANADIAN PER MONTH. OLIVIA STEFANOVICH, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Andrew: OKAY. I WANT TO TAKE YOU OUT TO VANCOUVER RIGHT NOW. WE’VE GOT BRIAR STEWART BECAUSE WE’VE GOT BREAKING NEWS COMING OUT OF THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC BASEBALL PLAYER. >>FORMER MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL PLAYER DAVID ORTIZ HAS BEEN SHOT IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. HE WAS AT A DISCO WHEN HE WAS SHOT IN THE BACK. HE WAS TRANSFERRED TO A MEDICAL CENTRE WHERE HE UNDERWENT SURGERY. NOW SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DETAINED IN CONNECTION TO THE SHOOTING. ORTIZ, WHO WAS ORIGINALLY FROM THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC RETIRED FROM MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL IN 2016 AFT 2016 AFTER 20 SEASONS. HE STILL LIVES IN BOSTON, STILL WORKING FOR THE RED SOX IN A VARIETY OF ROLLS BUT IS FREQUENTLY IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC WHERE HE DOES BUSINESS AND RUNS A CHILDREN’S CHARITY. WE’LL CONTINUE TO CHECK BACK ON THIS STORY THROUGHOUT THE EVENING. BACK TO YOU ON “THE NATIONAL.”>>Andrew: AND THE CHILD THAT STUNNED KYLE LOWRY WITH A QUESTION. THAT’S OUR “MOMENT,” BUT FIRST, SHE SAID SHE WAS SUBJECTED TO A STRIP SEARCH WHEN CANADIAN BORDER OFFICERS COULDN’T FIND THE DRUGS THEY WERE CONVINCED SHE WAS CARRYING. >>HE ACTUALLY RAISED HIS VOICE AND SAID I THINK YOU’RE A DRUG>>Andrew: A CALGARY WOMAN SAID SHE IS SCARED TO FLY BECAUSE SHE WAS SO BADLY MISTREATED BY CANADIAN BORDER OFFICERS IN VANCOUVER. SHE SAID SHE WAS FALSELY ACCUSED OF BEING A DRUG SMUGGLER AND STRIP SEARCHED, AND AS ERICA JOHNSON REVEALED FROM OUR GO PUBLIC TEAM, SHE’S NOT THE ONLY ONE RAISING CONCERNS.>>Reporter: IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO JILL KNAPP WHEN SHE TRAVELS. THREE YEARS AGO, SHE WAS CONNECTING THROUGH CALGARY FOR A TRIP BACK FROM MEXICO. SHE WAS SINGLED OUT FOR SECONDARY INSPECTION, AND THE CANADIAN BORDER SECURITY OFFICER WAS ALMOST INSTANTLY AGGRESSIVE. THE OFFICER CHECKED HER SUITCASE. NOTHING. CALLED IN A SNIFFER DOG, NOTHING. >>AND I ACTUALLY SAW THE RAGE COME OUT OF HIM. HE WAS MAD THEY COULDN’T FIND ANYTHING. >>Reporter: HE CONFISCATES HER PHONE. SHE ASKED FOR A LAWYER, BUT ONE NEVER SHOWS UP. HUNGRY AND EXHAUSTED, WORRIED THAT HER PARENTS IN CALGARY DON’T KNOW WHERE SHE IS, JILL LEARNS THE ONLY WAY SHE’LL BE RELEASED IS IF SHE AGREES TO A STRIP SEARCH. >>I HAD NOTHING ON FROM THE WAIST DOWN, AND THEY MADE ME TURNAROUND, OPEN UP MY BUTT CHEEKS, AND SQUAT. >>IT’S INCREDIBLY CONCERNING THAT SOMEBODY WOULD AGREE TO A STRIP SEARCH JUST TO BE RELEASED. ALSO, IT SPEAKS TO THE POWER THAT CANADIAN BORDER AGENTS HAVE. >>WITH THAT POWER COMES A CODE OF CONDUCT. CBC DID AN ACCESS TO INFORMATION REQUEST FOR CANADA’S BIG THREE AIRPORTS IN TORONTO, VANCOUVER, AND MONTREAL ASKING FOR OFFICER COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT OVER TWO YEARS. WE DISCOVERED HUNDREDS OF OTHER PASSENGERS ALLEGING THEY’VE BEEN BULLIED, YELLED AT, EVEN THREATENED. >>I HAVE TO SAY IT IS REPULLSIVE THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS WHEN THEY’RE JUST TRYING TO GET TO THEIR DESTINATION. >>Reporter: WE ASKED FOR CBSC TO SUBMIT TO AN INTERVIEW, BUT THEY DECLINED.>>MY HUSBAND IS GOING TO MEXICO TO SEE HIS MOM, AND I DON’T WANT TO GO. IT’S HARD BECAUSE I LOVE HIS FAMILY AND I WANT TO SEE THEM, BUT I’M SCARED.>>Reporter: ERICA JOHNSON, GO PUBLIC.>>Rosemary: STILL AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL,” THE EFFECTS OF WHISTLE BLOWING. IN THE SUNDAY EDITION, ADRIENNE INTERVIEWS EDWARD SNOWDEN ON HIS LIFE TODAY. >>Andrew: AND WE>>Rosemary: SIX YEARS AGO THIS MONTH, EDWARD SNOWDEN BETRAYED HIS GOVERNMENT, AND IN THE EYES OF MANY, BECAME A HERO. HE REVEALED THE EXTENT TO WHICH THE U.S. GOVERNMENT SPIED ON ITS CITIZENS. TODAY, THE ISSUES HE REVEALED ON GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE REMAIN ALL TOO RELEVANCE. JUST LAST MONTH, HE REVEALED A CONFERENCE AT DALHOUSIE UNIVERSITY THE WAY THAT GOVERNMENTS MANIPULATE YOUR INFORMATION. ADRIENNE SAT DOWN WITH HIM.>>Reporter: SIX YEARS AGO, EDWARD SNOWDEN CHANGED THE WORLD WHEN HE SPILLED THE BEANS ON HIS OWN EMPLOYER, HIS OWN GOVERNMENT. HE REVEALED A DOCUMENT THAT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WAS COLLECTING INFORMATION ON MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT WEREN’T EVEN UNDER INVESTIGATION AT ALLALL. AS OLIVER STONE PORTRAYED IT, SNOWDEN WAS ON HIS WAY TO RUSSIA, BUT STILL, HE MADE LEGIONS OF FANS AND LEGIONS OF FOLKS. STILL IN RUSSIA, HE DOESN’T SPEAK TO MANY FOLKS, BUT HE AGREED TO SPEAK TO US. YOU THINK CANADIANS NEED TO BE WORRIED?>>I THINK SO.>>Reporter: I SPOKE WITH HE HADHAD — EDWARD SNOWDEN FROM MONTREAL.>>Reporter: THERE’S STILL LOTS OF SECRECY, LOTS OF CONFIDENTIALITY. PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE WITNESS STA STAND — WONDERING, WHAT ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT?>>LOOK, WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT THAT CONSIDE THAT — OR CORPORATION THAT CONSIDERS CERTAIN INFORMATION CLASSIFIED, AND THE GOVERNMENT PROHIBITS ANYBODY FROM MAKING A DEFENSE TO THAT IN COURT. YOU CAN’T TELL THE JURY WHY YOU DID WHAT YOU DID, SO THERE’S NOT KIND OF FAIR TRIAL AVAILABLE, THERE’S NO SYSTEM OF JUSTICE FOR MANAGING THESE BASICALLY CONTESTS IN THE UNITED STATES BETWEEN WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS PEOPLE ARE PERMITTED TO KNOW AND WHAT THEY ACTUALLY NEED TO KNOW TO BE ACTIVE MEMBERS OF THEIR DEMOCRACY. SO WHEN WE’RE ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND THE GOVERNMENT GOES OH, YOU’VE BROKEN THE LAW, RIGHT NOW, THEY JUST KIND OF SNAP THEIR FINGERS AND YOU GO TO JAIL FOR A DECADE OR HALF A DECADE OR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. >>Reporter: DO YOU THINK THEY’RE GOING TO FIND YOU THERE?>>I THINK UNDER THE CURRENT U.S. REGIME, THEY PRACTICE IN WHAT’S CALLED EXTRAORDINARY RENDITION. IT BASICALLY MEANS KIDNAPPING. IT DOESN’T MATTER IF YOU HAVE ASYLUM OR PROTECTION FROM THE COUNTRY THAT YOU’RE IN, THEY CAN JUST SNATCH YOU IN THE U.S. SYSTEM OF LAW AND THROW YOU BACK IN JAIL.>>Reporter: OKAY. SO THAT’S WHY YOU’RE SO CAREFUL, WHY WE NEVER SEE MORE THAN JUST YOUR HEAD, WHY WE DON’T KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE — >>WELL, I’M ACTUALLY JUST IN MY APARTMENT, BUT YEAH, THIS IS MY WALL.>>Reporter: DO YOU GET RECOGNIZED ON THE STREETS IN RUSSIA?>>THAT’S WHAT THIS IS FOR. I ACTUALLY — I DON’T GET RECOGNIZED VERY OFTEN, BUT IT DOES HAPPEN OCCASIONALLY. IT’S FUNNY. IT’S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HAPPENS IN PARTICULAR CONTEXTS. IF I’M IN THE GROCERY STORE, NO ONE RECOGNIZES ME. IF I’M ON THE MESS ROW, NO ONE RECOGNIZES ME. IF I GO INTO A COMPUTER STORE, LIKE, I HAVEN’T EVEN WALKED INTO THE DOOR AND EVERYONE RECOGNIZES ME. IT’S THE WEIRDEST THING, BUT I THINK IT’S THE WAY YOUR BRAIN SORT OF PRIMES YOU FOR ASSOCIATIONS.>>Reporter: AND HOW DO YOU SPEND YOUR DAYS?>>WORKING. I’M THE PRESIDENT OF THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS ORGANIZATION, AND THE MAJORITY OF MY DAY IS ACTIVISM AND OUTREACH. I’VE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF THE POLICIES OF THE RUSSIAN REGIME RIGHT NOW, PARTICULARLY AS IT RELATES TO INTERNET FREEDOMS AND SENSORSHIP. WE SEE THIS ALSO HAPPENING IN EUROPE IN PLACES THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN’T TRADITIONALLY EXPECT IT. >>Reporter: WHEN YOU SAID YOU’VE BEEN CRITICAL OF HOW THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT HAS HANDLED PRESS FREEDOM, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO POKE YOUR HOSTS IN THE FACE LIKE THAT?>>LOOK, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT RUSSIA’S POLITICS HAVE BEEN TROUBLED. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT’S CONTROVERSIAL OR SURPRISING TO A RUSSIAN CITIZEN ON THE STREET, RIGHT? NOW, OF COURSE THE GOVERNMENT MIGHT OBJECT TO THAT. THEY MIGHT BE UPSET ABOUT THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I’M LITERALLY A FORMER C.I.A. AGENT. THE RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT DOESN’T CARE WHAT I SAY BECAUSE THEY CAN DISCREDIT ME IN AN INSTANCE BY POINTING THEIR FINGER AND SAYING HEY, THE C.I.A. AGENT DOESN’T LIKE WHAT WE’RE SAYING. SURPRISE. BUT I THINK THE MORE VOICES THAT TALK ABOUT GOVERNMENT GOING TOO FAR, THE MORE SKEPTICISM THAT PEOPLE HAVE IN THEIR GOVERNMENT THAT INCREASES, AND THAT’S A VITAL THING. WE KNOW THAT A GOVERNMENT THAT’S TRUSTED TOO FREELY AND GIVEN TOO MUCH LEASH, TIME HAS PROVEN IN HISTORY THAT THEY’RE GOING TO GET WRAPPED UP IN THAT LEASH AND TAKE US DOWN WITH THEM. >>Reporter: IT’S A STRANGE POSITION FOR SNOWDEN TO BE IN. HE TOLD SECRETS IN ORDER FOR PEOPLE TO BE MORE PRIVATE. NOW HE’S ASKING CANADA TO TAKE FOR REFUGEES, THE PEOPLE WHO ONCE HIT HIM, AND HE SAYS CANADA IS NOT AS FREE AS WE ASSUME IT TO BE. >>WHAT WE’VE FORGOTTEN OVER THE LAST CENTURY IS THE KIND OF PEACE AND LIBERTYS THAT WE’VE INHERITED FROM THE WORK OF PAST GENERATIONS IS NOT GUARANTEED. THAT IS THE PRODUCT OF A CONSTANT STRUGGLE TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND MORE FREE. WE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING AGAINST THE SORT OF REACTIONARY PRESSURES OF PEOPLE WHO GO, WE’VE GONE FAR ENOUGH. IT’S A DANGEROUS WORLD, THERE’S DANGEROUS PEOPLE, AND THAT IS TRUE, RIGHT? BUT THE WAY TO PROTECT AGAINST THESE DANGERS IS TO LIVE LESS FREELY. IT’S TO CONSTRAIN WHAT EVERYONE CAN DO, AND THIS IS KIND OF THE IDEA THAT IN ORDER TO PROTECT AN OPEN SOCIETY, WE NEED TO KILL IT OURSELVES FIRST, AND THAT’S SOMETHING THAT I FUNDAMENTALLY DISAGREE WITH, AND I THINK THAT EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES IN THE VALUE OF A FREE AND OPEN SOCIETY SHOULD BELIEVE IT.>>Reporter: GIVEN WHO YOU ARE, WHAT SECRETS DO YOU THINK NEED TO BE TOLD NEXT?>>THERE’S SO MANY. I THINK A VITAL DOCUMENT THAT EVERYONE HAS FORGOTTEN ABOUT, IT’S DISAPPEARED IN THE UNITED STATES POLITICAL CONVERSATION BUT IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND CONSEQUENTIAL IS THE TORTURE REPORT, THE SECRET REPORT OF THE U.S. INVOLVEMENT IN THE TORTURE AND KILLING OF PEOPLE WHO WERE SUSPECTED OF INVOLVEMENT IN TERRORISM, BUT IN MANY CASES WERE ENTIRELY INNOCENT. THOSE PEOPLE ARE CRIMINALS, AND NOT JUST ANY CRIMINALS, BUT WAR CRIMINALS. AND TO THIS DAY, THEIR IDENTITIES HAVE BEEN PROTECTED, AND THEY HAVE FACED NO CONSEQUENCES AT ALL, EITHER DOMESTIC STICKILY OR INTERNATIONALLY, AND I THINK THAT’S A TRAGEDY, AND I THINK IT’S AN EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT OR AT LEAST THE FORM OF GOVERNMENT THAT WE ASPIRE TO HAVE. >>Reporter: CONSIDERING HOW PRECIOUS PRIVACY IS, AT WHAT POINT DO YOU ASK YOURSELF IF WHAT YOU DID WAS WORTH IT OR MADE A DIFFERENCE?>>WELL, I THINK THE THING HERE IS IT’S LED TO LEGAL REFORMS IN THE UNITED STATES, IN CANADA, BASICALLY EVERY COUNTRY IN EUROPE. WE HAVE THE ENTIRE WAY THE INTERNET DOES BUSINESS, WHICH IS SURVEILLANCE CAPITALISM, COMING UNDER PRESSURE AND BEGINNING TO CHANGE. EVERYONE, EVEN ACTUALLY, IRONICALLY, OFFICIALS IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY THAT CONDEMNED ME, HAVE SAID THIS WAS A GOOD THING. THIS WAS SOMETHING THEY THEMSELVES SHOULD HAVE ADMITTED YEARS PRIOR, AND THEN, IT WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN A SCANDAL BECAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE HAD CLEAN HANDS. EXPOSING UNLAWFUL OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTIVITIES IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE A RISKY THING, BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE A DANGEROUS THING. >>Reporter: ARE YOU ALWAYS LOOKING OUT, THINKING IS THIS MAN GOING TO KIDNAP ME? IS THIS MAN GOING TO RENDER ME BACK?>>NO. IT’S BEEN SO MANY YEARS NOW. IF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO TAKE SOME ACTION AGAINST ME, IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO, GOD FORBID, ASSASSINATE ME ON THE STREET, I’M GOING TO CONTINUE TO DO MORE IN MY REMAINING DAYS, BUT I’M SATISFIED WITH THE CHOICES THAT I’VE MADE. AND HOWEVER MUCH TIME THAT I HAVE, I CAN ONLY BE GRATEFUL FOR. >>Reporter: THANK YOU, EDWARD. >>THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>Andrew: AND STILL AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL,” CHANGING LIVES THROUGH DANCE. [*]>>I KNEW AT THE MOMENT THAT I WAS REALLY PROUD OF MYSELF, THAT I DID HELD OF A GOOD JOB.>>Andrew: THE FIRST CANADIAN TALENT COMPETES FOR TALENT AT TONIGHT’S TONY AWARDS. [*]>>Andrew: “AIN’T TOO PROUD: THE LIFE AND TIMES OF THE TEMPTATIONS” WAS NOMINATED FOR BEST MUSICAL PLUS 11 OTHER TONY AWARDS. CANADIAN DEZ MACKINOV WAS NOT ABLE TO SECURE THE TONY FOR BEST DIRECTION. “THE PROM” WAS NOMINATED FOR BEST MUSICAL, BUT CANADIAN BOB MARTIN MISSED OUT ON WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN HIS SECOND TONY FOR WRITING THE BOOK. [*]>>Andrew: AND THE TONY FOR BEST MUSICAL WENT TO “HADESTOWN,” A SHOW WITH A CANADIAN CONNECTION. ON THE RUN TO BROADWAY, IT HAD A RUN AT SCITADEL, THEATRE, AND TONIGHT, THE CITADEL GOT A SHOUTO>>Andrew: WELCOME BACK. 130 FIREFIGHTERS WERE CALLED OUT TO THIS INFERNO IN LONDON’S EAST END. FLAMES QUICKLY ENGULFED ALL SIX STORIES OF THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX. IT BROUGHT BACK MEMORIES OF GRENFELL TRAGEDY THAT KILLED SIX PEOPLE. HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE, IT APPEARS THAT NO ONE WAS SERIOUSLY HURT.>>>AMERICAN AIRLINES IS CANCELLING ITS BOEING MAX JETS FLIGHTS UNTIL SEPTEMBER. MAX JETS WHY GROUNDED WORLDWIDE AFTER CRASHES IN INDONESIA AND ETHIOPIA.>>>AND DISAPPOINTMENT FOR THESE FANS TONIGHT IN ST. LOUIS. THE BLUES HAVE GOT A LONG-STANDING GRAND JUNCTION TO SETTLE HERE. THEY LAST LOST A STANLEY CUP TO THE BRUINS BACK IN 1970.>>>OKAY. NOW, LET’S TAKE YOU BEHIND THE SCENES AS MORE THAN 100 YOUTH FROM NUNAVUT, MANITOBA, AND ONTARIO REHEARSED THE SHOW OF THEIR LIVES. THEY RECENTLY PERFORMED ON ONE OF TORONTO’S PREMIER STAGES, CHARMING A CROWD OF THOUSANDS, BUT BEFORE THAT, WE CAUGHT UP WITH TWO DANCERS AND THEIR MENTORS IN A TRAINING CAMP OUTSIDE OF TORONTO. THEY TOLD US ABOUT THE POWER OF DANCE AND THE IMPACT IT HAS ON THEIR LIVES.>>MY NAME IS SOLOMON HARPER, AND I AM FROM St. THERESA POINT, FIRST NATIONS. I THINK THAT DANCING IS REALLY FUN. WHEN I USUALLY DANCE, I LET GO OF ALL EMOTIONS. >>EVERYBODY’S OH, AND THEN, YOU HAVE A HMM. MY NAME IS NINO VICENTE. I WORK WITH OUTSIDE LOOKING IN AS A CHOREOGRAPHER. THE PLACE I WORK HERE IS ABOUT AN HOUR DRIVE WEST OF TORONTO. THIS YEAR, WE HAVE OVER 114 YOUTH FROM ALL ACROSS CANADA. IT RANGES FROM GRADE 7 ALL THE WAY TILL GRADE 12, AND THESE ARE THE FIRST NATION INDIGENOUS YOUTH OF CANADA DANCING INSIDE THIS BARN, AND THIS IS PRETTY MUCH HOME FOR US FOR THE NEXT TWO WEEKS. >>MAKE SURE THE GARDEN HILL JUNIORS ARE BEHIND. >>MY NAME IS QUEENY, AND I AM A DANCER AND MENTOR. I SPENT FIVE YEARS IN GARDEN HILL. GARDEN HILL IS A FLY-IN COMMUNITY, MEANING EVERYTHING THEY GET NEEDS TO BE FLOWN IN FROM A PLANE. THE MAIN CHANGE THAT I’VE SEEN FROM THE KIDS IS THEY’RE A LOT MORE JUST SELF-CONFIDENT. DON’T GET ME WRONG. THEY STILL HAVE DAYS WHERE THEY FEEL LOW. AND LIVING THROUGH IT, I THINK GIVES ME MORE OF A REASON TO COME BACK BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT DANCE PROVIDES SOME SORT OF ESCAPE AND HAPPINESS AND JOY FOR SOME OF THESE KIDS. SO WHI>>SO WHILE YOU’RE DANCING, YOU FEEL LIKE A NEW PERSON. THIS IS MY FOURTH YEAR, AND I’VE LEARNED A LOT. DURING GROWING UP, I USED TO BE PICKED ON AS A KID BECAUSE OF HOW MY TEETH LOOKED, AND THEY THOUGHT I WAS SCARY, HOW I LOOKED. NOW, I’M ABLE TO MEET NEW PEOPLE, OPEN UP TO NEW PEOPLE, AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE MORE. IT ALSO HELPS ME WITH MY — MY SELF-ESTEEM. >>I WASN’T REALLY INTO SCHOOL THAT MUCH, I WAS KIND OF A SLACKER. BUT WHEN O.L.I. CAME, I WANTED TO KEEP DANCING BECAUSE I LIKED IT SO MUCH. I ENDED UP FINDING OUT THAT I KNEW I REALLY LIKE LEARNING. IT’S LIKE I WANTED TO BE SOMEONE, I WANTED TO BE SOMETHING. I LIKE SCHOOL, AND MY FAVORITE SUBJECT IS MATH. I HAVE, LIKE, ABOUT 80% AVERAGE OF MY GRADE. [*]>>AS A CHOREOGRAPHER, NINO, RIGHT, WANTS US TO PUSH OUR LIMITS UNTIL IT’S REALLY DONE, AND THAT’S WHAT IT TAKES. EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL HAS TO KEEP THAT 100% HIGH. IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME TO BE THAT GOOD.>>SOME OF THE KIDS THAT ARE THE MOST QUIET SHINE THE MOST WHEN THEY’RE DANCING, ESPECIALLY IF IT’S THEIR FIRST TIME, I WOULD HAVE GIRLS MOSTLY COVER THEIR MOUTHS ALWAYS, AND THIS IS HOW THEY WOULD START TO DANCE. BUT AS SOON AS THE WARM UP MUSIC WOULD COME ON, LIKE, YOU CAN SEE THEM, LIKE, OPENING UP, LIKE, BODY LANGUAGE, LIKE, THEY START TO OPEN THEIR SHOULDERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND, LIKE, EVEN THAT ALONE SAYS A LOT ABOUT HOW — JUST HOW THEY FEEL.>>SONY CENTRE STAGE IS THE BIGGEST STAGE IN CANADA. DANCING FOR THEM ON THAT STAGE IS WHAT THEY LOOK FORWARD TO THE MOST. THAT THREE MINUTES OF THEM DANCING IS WHAT THEY GO HOME AND REMEMBER. >>SONY CENTRE IS A HUGE STAGE, BUT IT FILLS UP THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. THEY STEP ON, YOU SEE THEIR EYES JUST OPEN UP, AND YOU SEE THAT THEY’RE, LIKE, OH, THIS IS REALLY REAL. [*]>>I WAS SCARED BECAUSE I DIDN’T REALIZE THAT THERE WOULD BE THAT MANY PEOPLE THERE. [*]>>I KNEW THAT MOMENT THAT I WAS REALLY PROUD OF MYSELF, THAT I DID HELD OF A GOOD JOB. I WAS SO PROUD OF ME. I WAS SO PROUD OF EVERYONE THERE. [*]>>YOU GET SO EMOTIONAL AND SO OVERWHELMED WITH EXCITEMENT THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING. >>AT THAT MOMENT, I REALIZED THERE WAS WAY MORE TO THE WORLD. FOR ME, I’M JUST GOING TO ENJOY IT WHILE I AM HERE, SO WHEN I GO BACK HOME, I THINK I’M GOING TO STRIVE FOR MORE, I GUESS, AND HOPEFULLY COME BACK NEXT YEAR. [Applause]>>Rosemary: LOVE THAT STORY.>>>NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL,” THE STORY THE COUNTRY IS TALKING ABOUT TODAY, TONIGHT, AND TOMORROW, AN UNEXPECTED ANSWER TO A QUESTION. THAT IS OUR “MOMENT.” >>HOW DOES IT>>Rosemary: SO BEFORE A RAPTORS GAME, THE MEDIA GETS TO HAVE ITS PREGAME, AND YOU KNOW WE SIT THERE, WE PEPPER THE PLAYERS WITH QUESTIONS, AND THEY’RE PREDICTABLE. LIKE, HOW DO YOU STAY CALM? HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT TOMORROW? WHAT ARE YOU EATING? I DON’T KNOW. BUT TODAY, THERE WAS A DIFFERENT KIND OF QUESTION FROM ARJUN RAHM FROM CBC KIDS NEWS, AND TONIGHT, HE GETS OUR “MOMENT.”>>HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE AN ICON OVALL OVER CANADA?>>I DON’T KNOW, MAN. I AIN’T NEVER BEEN ASKED THAT BEFORE. JUST I KNOW THAT I’VE BEEN IN YOUR SHOES. I HOLD MYSELF TO A SUPER HIGH STANDARD, AND I WANT YOU KIDS, AND I WANT YOU TO SEE A MAN THAT’S REALLY PROFESSIONAL, REALLY ABOUT HIS BUSINESS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE’S STILL FUN AND LOVING IT AND EVERYTHING ELSE.>>LAST QUESTION. >>YOU CAN’T BEAT THAT QUESTION. YOU CAN’T BEAT THAT QUESTION. YOU CAN TRY, BUT YOU CAN’T BEAT THAT QUESTION.>>Andrew: HOW IS IT THAT IT DOESN’T SEEM LIKE ARJUN IS EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT NERVOUS. >>Rosemary: NO. >>Andrew: LIKE, I DON’T GET THAT. >>Rosemary: NO. AND I LIKE DOING INTERVIEWS AND ASKING QUESTIONS, AND NOW I’M WORRIED THAT HE’S BETTER THAN ME. WE CAUGHT UP WITH ARJUN AND HERE IS WHAT HE SAID. >>HONESTLY, I DIDN’T EXPECT THAT. HE STARTED OFF, WELL, I’VE NEVER BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION. I WASN’T EXPECTING THAT. THE NEXT PERSON ASKED THE QUESTION, AND HE SAID YOU CAN’T BEAT THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WASN’T REAL. I’M STILL VERY SHOCKED BY HIS QUESTION AND HOW NICE HE WAS TO ME. >>Rosemary: IT’S NICE THAT YOU CAN ASK SOMEONE A QUESTION AND STUMP THEM. SO ARJUN, CONGRATULATIONS.>>Andrew: THE SECRET IS YOU ASK A NICE QUESTION, AND THEN, YOU FOLLOW IT UP WITH A MEAN QUESTION.>>THIS IS HOW I DO INTERVIEWS WITH POLITICIANS. ARJUN, YOU KNOW MY SECRET. >>Andrew: THIS IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR SUNDAY, JUNE 9. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.>>Rosemary: GO RAPTORS, GO.

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