The National for June 3, 2019 — Final report of MMIWG inquiry, Trump visits the U.K.

The National for June 3, 2019 — Final report of MMIWG inquiry, Trump visits the U.K.


(*)>>Rosemary: TODAY, A DAMNING REPORT INTO MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS.>>THIS IS COLONIZATION. THIS IS DISCRIMINATION. THIS IS GENOCIDE.>>Rosemary: THE FINDINGS, THE CALLS FOR JUSTICE, AND THE FAMILIES STILL SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS. SO WILL THE GOVERNMENTS TAKE ACTION? I’LL ASK ONE OF THE MINISTERS RESPONSIBLE. (*)>>Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP GETS THE ROYAL TREATMENT INSIDE BUCKINGHAM PALACE. BUT OUTSIDE HERE ON THE STREETS OF LONDON, A VERY DIFFERENT STORY. (*)>>IT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE. SO IT DIDN’T WORK. THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING.>>Ian: AS A DANGEROUS TORNADO TORE THROUGH AN OTTAWA SUBURB, A WARNING WENT OUT. SO WHY DIDN’T EVERYONE GET THE MESSAGE?>>>THIS IS “THE NATIONAL.” (*)>>Rosemary: THIS IS THE MUSEUM OF HISTORY WHERE TODAY HISTORY WAS MADE. JUST ACROSS THE RIVER FROM PARLIAMENT HILL ON TRADITIONAL ALGONQUIN TERRITORY THE FINAL REPORT OF THE INQUIRY INTO MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS WAS PRESENTED TO THE GOVERNMENT OF CANADA. THAT’S WHY “THE NATIONAL” BEGINS HERE TONIGHT. THE COMMISSION THAT PRODUCED THAT REPORT HAS ENORMOUS GOALS FOR THIS COUNTRY, SWEEPING CALLS FOR CHANGE, DETAILED IN MORE THAN 200 RECOMMENDATIONS. AT TIMES TODAY THE PROMISE OF CHANGE FILLED THE HALLS WITH HOPEFUL APPLAUSE BUT HOPE WAS ALWAYS COLOURED BY VIOLENCE AND INTOLERANCE, THE SINS OF THE PAST, AND, YES, THE PRESENT. (*)>>I WANT TO START AS I WAS TAUGHT BY AN ELDER IN SASKATCHEWAN TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPIRITS OF THE MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS AND TO WELCOME THEM.>>Rosemary: IT TOOK NEARLY THREE YEARS TO GET HERE AND MORE THAN 2,000 TESTIMONIALS, LEADING TO THIS. STRONG CONDEMNATION.>>THE SIGNIFICANT, PERSISTENT AND DELIBERATE PATTERN OF SYSTEMIC RACIAL AND GENDERED HUMAN AND INDIGENOUS RIGHTS VIOLATIONS AND ABUSES IS THE CAUSE OF THE DISAPPEARANCES, MURDERS, AND VIOLENCE. AND THIS IS GENOCIDE. [Applause]>>Rosemary: THERE WERE CALLS TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE OF CANADA.>>FIRST, READ OUR REPORT. SPEAK OUT AGAINST RACISM, SEXISM AND MISOGYNY. [Applause]>>Rosemary: MORE POINTEDLY THERE WERE THE 231 CALLS FOR JUSTICE TO GOVERNMENTS AND INSTITUTIONS, DELIVERED TODAY BY FAMILIES OF THE MURDERED AND MISSING.>>ALL GOVERNMENTS MUST FURTHER ENSURE THAT THE RIGHTS OF INDIGENOUS CHILDREN TO RETAIN AND TO BE EDUCATED IN THEIR INDIGENOUS LANGUAGE ARE UPHELD.>>TO IMPROVE THE REPRESENTATION OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES, IN MEDIA AND POP CULTURE.>>TO END RACISM AND SEXUALIZED STEREOTYPES OF INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS.>>WE CALL UPON ALL GOVERNMENTS TO ENSURE THAT PROTECTION ORDERS ARE AVAILABLE TO PROTECT THE SAFETY OF INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS.>>Rosemary: THEN CAME THE CEREMONY’S SYMBOLIC PASSING OF THE REPORT, WRAPPED IN A RED BLANKET, THE COLOUR THAT HAS BEEN USED TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE ISSUE OFFICIALLY HANDED TO THE PRIME MINISTER.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: I REFUSE TO LET OUR PRESENT AND OUR FUTURE MIRROR OUR PAST. TO THE MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS OF CANADA, TO THEIR FAMILIES AND TO SURVIVORS, WE HAVE FAILED YOU. WE WILL FAIL YOU NO LONGER.>>Rosemary: YOU HEARD THE CHIEF COMMISSIONER USE THAT WORD “GENOCIDE” TO DESCRIBE CANADA’S TREATMENT OF INDIGENOUS PEOPLES. NOW SALIMAH SHIVJI TAKES A DEEPER LOOK AT WHAT IT REALLY MEANS AND THE DEBATE OVER WHETHER IT’S DESERVED.>>Reporter: A LOADED WORD MENTIONED AGAIN AND AGAIN. THE REPORT ARGUES THAT THE DEATH AND DISAPPEARANCES OF INDIGENOUS WOMEN IS GENOCIDE, A DIRECT RESULT OF STATE POLICY. WHETHER IT BE RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS, FORCED STERILIZATION OR THE SIXTIES SCOOP OF INDIGENOUS CHILDREN FROM THEIR FAMILIES.>>TO THE PEOPLE THAT DON’T THINK THAT THERE IS A GENOCIDE TODAY WE HAVE 1,200 PAGES.>>Reporter: THE PRIME MINISTER ACCEPTED THOSE PAGES WITH A PROMISE TO ACT, BUT WITHOUT REPEATING THAT WORD, EVEN WHEN CONFRONTED WITH IT.>>GENOCIDE!>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: THIS IS AN UNCOMFORTABLE DAY FOR CANADA, BUT IT IS AN ESSENTIAL DAY.>>I WAS HOPING THAT HE WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT COURAGE TO PUT THAT NEW CHAPTER THAT WE ARE ALL REQUESTING.>>Reporter: BUT IN A CLEAR INDICATION OF HOW CONTENTIOUS THE WORD “GENOCIDE” IS, THE COMMISSIONERS EVEN DISAGREE.>>WE DON’T NEED TO HEAR THE WORD GENOCIDE TO COME OUT OF THE PRIME MINISTER’S MOUTH BECAUSE THE FAMILIES HAVE TOLD US, THE SURVIVORS HAVE TOLD US THEIR TRUTH.>>Reporter: ROMEO DALLAIRE SAW A GENOCIDE UNFOLD IN RWANDA. THE LEGAL DEFINITION THAT HE SAYS THAT REQUIRES INTENT TO DESTROY.>>IS THAT AN ACT OF GENOCIDE? IS IT? I’VE GOT A PROBLEM. I’VE GOT A PROBLEM. IS IT DELIBERATE? DO WE WANT THAT TO HAPPEN? IS THAT WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT WANTS TO HAPPEN? OR IS OUR GOVERNMENT JUST THAT INEPT?>>Reporter: A DIVISIVE DEBATE THAT COULD OVERSHADOW THE REPORT’S RECOMMENDATIONS.>>PERHAPS THEY HAD TO USE A TERM LIKE “GENOCIDE” TO SOUND THE ALARM AND FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE NOTICE AND FINALLY ACTION WILL RESULT. BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO GUARD AGAINST USING THAT TERM IN TOO MANY WAYS BECAUSE THEN IT WILL CEASE TO HAVE THE SINGULAR IMPORTANCE AND HORROR THAT IT WARRANTS.>>Reporter: THE CURRENT ATTORNEY GENERAL MADE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT THE DAY TO ARGUE SEMANTICS.>>THE IMPORTANT THING TODAY IS NOT ABOUT — ABOUT — ABOUT DEFINITIONS BUT ABOUT ACTION AND THAT’S WHERE WE’RE GOING.>>Rosemary: SO, SALIMAH IS HERE WITH ME NOW. AS YOU SHOWED ME THERE, SALIMAH, THE PRIME MINISTER AND OTHER MINISTERS RELUCTANT TO USE THAT WORD TODAY. WHY WAS THAT?>>Reporter: YEAH, THAT’S RIGHT. BUT NOT AVOIDING IT PER SE. THE PRIME MINISTER JUSTIN TRUDEAU ACTUALLY SAID THE WORD GENOCIDE IN AN EVENT TONIGHT IN A MATTER OF FACT WAY WHEN TALKING ABOUT THE REPORT.>>Prime Minister Justin Trudeau: EARLIER THIS MORNING THE NATIONAL INQUIRY PRESENTED THEIR FINAL REPORT IN WHICH THEY FOUND THAT THE TRAGIC VIOLENCE THAT INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS HAVE EXPERIENCED AMOUNTS TO GENOCIDE. [Applause]>>Reporter: NOTICE HE DID NOT SAY “THE GOVERNMENT CAME TO THAT CONCLUSION.” SO THE LIBERALS ARE WALKING A FINE LINE AS THEY TRY TO HAVE RECONCILIATION WITH INDIGENOUS PEOPLES. AND WHAT THE LEGAL CONSEQUENCES WOULD BE OF CALLING THIS OFFICIALLY GENOCIDE IS AN OPEN QUESTION AND REMAINS AN OPEN QUESTION. BUT THERE COULD BE, CERTAINLY, A DIPLOMATIC EFFECT. OF COURSE, WHEN THAT IS USED, A GOVERNMENT SOURCE ACTUALLY DID SAY THAT THEY EXPECT OTHER COUNTRIES TO BRING UP THE REPORT CALLING THIS GENOCIDE AND USED ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE BY COUNTRIES THAT COULD NOT REALLY APPRECIATE BEING CALLED OUT FOR THEIR OWN HUMAN RIGHTS FAILURES.>>Rosemary: OKAY, SO THE DEBATE CONTINUES ON THAT ISSUE. THANK YOU, SALIMAH. SALIMAH SHIVJI IS WITH ME HERE IN OTTAWA TONIGHT. TODAY THE CEREMONY WAS AN EMOTIONAL ONE BUT FOR SOME FAMILIES THE REPORT WAS DISAPPOINTING, NOT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT SAID BUT BECAUSE OF WHAT IT DID NOT. DOZENS OF CASES REMAIN UNRESOLVED. AND IF THOSE FAMILIES WERE HOPING TO HEAR OF NEW INVESTIGATIONS THEY WERE DISAPPOINTED. OLIVIA STEFANOVICH SPENT THE MORNING WITH TWO OF THEM.>>Reporter: OUTSIDE OF THE NATIONAL INQUIRY’S CLOSING CEREMONY, A FATHER STILL WAITING TO BE HEARD.>>WHAT IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO IS MY DAUGHTER.>>Reporter: CHEYENNE FOX WAS 20 YEARS OLD WHEN SHE PLUNGED 24 STOREYS TO HER DEATH. TORONTO POLICE RULED OUT CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. HER FATHER NEVER ACCEPTED THAT.>>I WANT THEM TO RE-OPEN THAT CASE AND PUT IT THE WAY THAT IT WAS, SHE WAS MURDERED.>>Reporter: AFTER YEARS OF FIGHTING HE FINALLY GOT HIS DAUGHTER’S DEATH RECLASSIFIED AS “UNDETERMINED.” SOMETHING THAT HE WISHES THAT HE SOMETHING THAT HE WISHES THAT HE DIDN’T HAVE TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE.>>THAT’S WHERE THE ROOT PROBLEM IS, THE POLICING, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID OUR CASE IS FIVE YEARS OLD AND I DON’T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO DO.>>Reporter: THE NATIONAL INQUIRY WAS NEVER MEANT TO SOLVE CASES. BUT IN THE FINAL REPORT, THE COMMISSIONERS MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO IMPROVE RELATIONS BETWEEN INVESTIGATORS AND FAMILIES.>>I REALLY LOST TRUST IN THE SYSTEM.>>Reporter: BARBARA SEVIGNY’S SISTER, MARY ANN BIRMINGHAM WAS KILLED MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO IN IQALUIT. SHE SAYS AT THAT RCMP ONLY RECENTLY STARTED TO UPDATE HER FAMILY.>>I WAS NOT EXPECTING UPDATE CALLS JUST TO SAY THAT WE’RE STILL WORKING ON YOUR SISTER’S CASE, YOU HAVEN’T BEEN FORGOTTEN. SUCH A TRAGEDY. WE OFTEN SAY, WHAT WOULD SHE BE IF SHE WERE ALIVE?>>Reporter: DESPITE HAVING APPEARED BEFORE THE INQUIRY THE FAMILY IS HERE, STILL SEEKING ANSWERS FOR THEIR MOM.>>I WANT HER TO HAVE A CLOSURE. SHE’S BEEN WAITING 33 YEARS AND SHE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A CLOSURE.>>Reporter: THEY SAY THAT CLOSURE WILL COME FROM CHANGE IN THE WAY THAT POLICE ARE RESOURCED AND HANDLE THE INVESTIGATIONS. SO THAT LOVED ONES LIKE THEIRS ARE NEVER FORGOTTEN. OLIVIA STEFANOVICH, CBC NEWS, GATINEAU, QUÉBEC.>>Rosemary: IN A STATEMENT TODAY THE RCMP SAID THAT IT’S ALREADY MADE MANY OF THE CHANGES RECOMMENDED BY THE INQUIRY. THEY INCLUDE: IMPROVING COMMUNICATION WITH FAMILIES IN INVESTIGATIONS OF MISSING PERSONS. REVIEWING 30,000 SEXUAL ASSAULT CASES. STRENGTHENING CULTURAL AWARENESS TRAINING FOR ALL EMPLOYEES. AND ENGAGEMENT WITH INDIGENOUS LEADERS AND ELDERS. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS ALSO PROMISING ACTION TONIGHT. BUT AS YOU HEARD EARLIER OFFICIALLY RECOGNISING GENOCIDE WAS NOT AS CLEARLY STATED AS PART OF THAT PROMISE. I DID ASK THE MINISTER OF CROWN AND INDIGENOUS RELATIONS ABOUT THAT EARLIER TODAY. DO YOU AGREE WITH THEIR CHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE AS GENOCIDE?>>I DO AGREE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS NEEDED TO WRITE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO WRITE, BASED ON WHAT THEY HEARD FROM THE FAMILIES.>>Rosemary: WE ALSO SPOKE ABOUT WHAT CHANGE WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE GOVERNMENT. SO WATCH FOR OUR IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION, THAT WILL BE A LITTLE LATER ON “THE NATIONAL.”>>FIRST THOUGH TO ANOTHER MAJOR POLITICAL STORY UNFOLDING IN LONDON AND THAT’S WHERE ADRIENNE IS TONIGHT.>>Adrienne: I’M HERE OUTSIDE OF BUCKINGHAM PALACE TONIGHT WHERE JUST BEHIND ME THE ROYAL FAMILY HOSTED THE U.S. PRESIDENT IN LAVISH STYLE. THE SAME DONALD TRUMP WHO KICKED OFF HIS STATE VISIT BRISTLING WITH INSULTS. THIS IS A COUNTRY ALREADY ON EDGE, A POLITICAL HURRICANE JUST BLEW THROUGH HERE. THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER IS ON HER WAY OUT AND MAINSTREAM BRITISH PARTIES JUST HAD AN ELECTORAL WIPEOUT. MORE ON THAT IN A MOMENT. BUT SUFFICE IT TO SAY THIS IS A DELICATE BRITAIN AT A DELICATE TIME AND DONALD TRUMP IS TO MANY NOT A DELICATE MAN. WHILE TRUMP RECEIVED A ROYAL WELCOME, NOT ALL BRITONS ARE KEEPING A STIFF UPPER LIP ABOUT THIS VISIT. MANY ARE PRETTY VOCAL WITH THEIR DISDAIN. MARGARET EVANS TAKES US THROUGH THE FIRST DAY OF TRUMP’S TOUR.>>Reporter: BEFORE HE EVEN SET FOOT ON BRITISH SOIL, THE U.S. PRESIDENT WAS MAKING HIS PRESENCE FELT. SENDING OUT TWEETS FROM AIR FORCE ONE AIMED AT HIS OLD FOE, SADIQ KHAN, THE MAYOR OF LONDON. HE CALLED HIM “A STONE-CALLED LOSER AND A SHORT ONE AT THAT.” NOT THE MOST STATESMAN-LIKE START TO WHAT IS, IN FACT, A STATE VISIT WITH ALL OF THE BELLS AND WHISTLES THAT IMPLIES. BUT HARDLY UNEXPECTED EITHER. AND WHO BETTER THAN THE QUEEN TO DEAL WITH THE POTENTIALLY UNPREDICTABLE GUEST. ALL THE PAGEANTRY DONALD TRUMP REPORTEDLY CRAVES FROM THIS TRIP WAS ON DISPLAY. PRINCE CHARLES GUIDED HIM THROUGH A GUARD OF HONOUR. THERE WAS A 41-GUN SALUTE. HE, WITH CHARLES AND CAMILLA, AND THE CITY OF LONDON ITSELF, DRAPED IN THE COLOURS OF THE STARS AND STRIPES ALONGSIDE THE UNION JACK. THIS VISIT HAS BEEN TOUTED AS A CHANCE TO REINFORCE A FRAYED TRANSATLANTIC ALLIANCE, A MAIN MESSAGE AT TONIGHT’S GLITTERING STATE BANQUET. STATE BANQUET.>>President Donald Trump: I OFFER A TOAST TO THE ETERNAL FRIENDSHIP OF OUR PEOPLE.>>TONIGHT WE CELEBRATE AN ALLIANCE THAT HAS HELPED TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND PROSPERITY OF BOTH OUR PEOPLES FOR DECADES.>>Reporter: BUT THE ROYAL BUFFER CAN ONLY GO SO FAR AND THIS VISIT COMES AT ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT TIMES IN MODERN BRITISH HISTORY AND AT ONE OF THE MOST DIVIDED.>>[CHANTING]>>Reporter: MANY BRITS ARE ANGRY WITH THEIR GOVERNMENT FOR AFFORDING TRUMP AN HONOUR THAT THEY DON’T BELIEVE THAT HE DESERVES, AND THEY PROTESTED TONIGHT.>>HE STANDS FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE STAND AGAINST.>>Reporter: TRUMP HAS SUPPORTERS HERE TOO THOUGH, HARDLY COMFORTABLE WITH DEMONSTRATIONS THEY CALL INSULTING TO AN INVITED GUEST.>>IT’S NOT VERY BRITISH, IT’S A BIT RUDE. AND I THINK THAT THERE’S BETTER WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH THEIR VIEWS ON TRUMP THAN THAT.>>Reporter: BUT EMOTIONS ARE RUNNING HIGH HERE OVER BREXIT IN PARTICULAR. PARTICULAR. AND SO FAR THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT HAS SHOWN NO COMPUNCTION ABOUT WADING INTO THAT DEBATE, NO MATTER HOW PAINFUL FOR THE COUNTRY.>>Adrienne: ALL RIGHT, SO THAT WAS TODAY AND LET’S TALK ABOUT TOMORROW. WHAT KIND OF DAY WILL IT BE?>>Reporter: PEOPLE THINK IF THERE WILL BE FIREWORKS THAT WILL COME TOMORROW. TOMORROW IS THE DAY OF POLITICAL MEETINGS. THERESA MAY IS IN THE DEATH THROES OF HER PREMIERSHIP AND DONALD TRUMP MIGHT BE TEMPTED TO WADE INTO THE POLITICS AS WE HAVE SEEN HIM DO IN THE PAST. AND AS YOU SAID, THIS COUNTRY IS TRAUMATIZED OVER BREXIT. THE POMP AND THE CEREMONY AND THE PAGEANTRY WE SAW TODAY IS NOT IN EVIDENCE TOMORROW DURING THE DAYTIME AND I THINK THAT IS THE TIME WHEN PEOPLE CAN TALK ABOUT THE BIG ISSUES. AND THERE IS DIFFERENCES, CHINA, IRAN, CLIMATE CHANGE, ALL OF THAT. AND WE’LL SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT ON THE STREETS PROTESTING. I THINK THAT YOU’LL BE IN THE MIDST OF THEM TOMORROW.>>Adrienne: WE’LL TALK TO YOU TOMORROW NIGHT. THANK YOU, MARGARET. FOR A LEADER WHO LIKES DISRUPTION, TRUMP HAS CERTAINLY COME TO THE RIGHT PLACE. THE TWO ESTABLISHMENT POLITICAL PARTIES HERE WERE JUST DECIMATED IN EUROPEAN PARLIAMENTARY ELECTIONS. AND NATIONAL POLLS NOW PUT THE TORIES AND LABOUR BEHIND THE NEWLY FORMED BREXIT PARTY. THOSE KINDS OF RESULTS COULD SIGNAL A ONCE-IN-A-GENERATION POLITICAL SHIFT. NOW EYES ARE ON A BY-ELECTION THIS THURSDAY WHERE THE BREXIT PARTY IS TRYING FOR ITS FIRST MEMBER OF PARLIAMENT. IT’S NOT A SURPRISE THAT NIGEL FARAGE, THE BREXIT EVANGELIST, AND NOW THE HEAD OF THE NEW BREXIT PARTY, HAS BEEN GETTING A LITTLE AMERICAN ADVICE.>>NIGEL FARAGE! [Cheers and Applause]>>Adrienne: DONALD TRUMP IS A FRIEND. FORMER TRUMP STRATEGIST, STEVE BANNON, A FAN. CALLS FARAGE “THE NEXT TREMOR IN A GLOBAL POLITICAL EARTHQUAKE.” THEY WOULD SURE LIKE IT TO BE SO.>>THEY SAY THAT THOSE WITH BREXIT ARE ALL BIG, STUPID, LAZY, FAT, IGNORANT RACISTS AND THAT’S ON A GOOD DAY.>>I LIKE SEEING NIGEL FARAGE, I LAZY, FAT, IGNORANT RACISTS AND THAT’S ON A GOOD DAY.>>I LIKE SEEING NIGEL FARAGE, I THOUGHT THAT HE WAS A GOOD MAN AND HE’S A FRIEND OF MR. TRUMP.>>Adrienne: THE WHOLE COUNTRY STARING AT PETERBOROUGH NOW. THE NOT SO ORIGINAL “MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN” SENTIMENT TRIED ON IN THE FOREFRONT OF CHANGE IN THE U.K. PETERBOROUGH WAS AMONG THE FIRST TO THROW OPEN ITS ARMS TO SOUTH ASIAN REFUGEES FROM UGANDA. COUNCILLOR CHARLES SWIFT THEN LEADING THE WELCOME WAGON.>>THE HOUSE IS WARM AND THE BEDS ARE MADE…>>Adrienne: WHEN WE MET NINE YEARS AGO HE COMPLAINED IMMIGRATION WAS EXCESSIVE, MIGRANTS SQUATTING IN SHEDS AND LIVING IN THE FOREST.>>AND I KNOW NOW THAT THE PLACE DETERIORATED BECAUSE IT GOT COMPLETELY OUT OF HAND AND COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL AND WE TOTALLY LOST REALITY.>>Adrienne: NOW RETIRED AND DETERMINED THIS LIFE-LONG LABOUR VOTER WILL VOTE FOR FARAGE’S BREXIT PARTY.>>AT THE END OF THE DAY HE’S SHAKING UP THE ESTABLISHMENT AND THEY WANT TO HAVE A GOOD KICK OF THE BACKSIDE AND THAT’S WHAT I HOPE THAT THEY GET.>>Adrienne: THERE’S NO GUARANTEE THAT THE BREXIT PARTY OR THE ANGER BEHIND IT WILL WIN. PETERBOROUGH’S ECONOMY IS SWELLING, AS IS ITS POPULATION. NOT ALL SEE CRISIS HERE. NOT ALL WANT TO BREAK WITH EUROPE OR A PARTY THAT STANDS FOR LITTLE ELSE. BUT THE VISITING U.S. PRESIDENT MIGHT RECOGNIZE SOME OF WHAT’S HAPPENING. BOMBAST BULLYING ITS WAY THROUGH POLITICAL CONVERSATION.>>NO NEED SHOUTING AT PEOPLE.>>MAYBE SHAKING YOUR BRAINS UP.>>Adrienne: NOW, LISTEN, THIS IS NOT THE POLITICAL DISCOURSE THAT WE EXPECT FROM –>>YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE A MODEL.>>I’M BETTER LOOKING THAN YOU ARE.>>Adrienne: AND HOW DID POLITICS IN YOUR COUNTRY DEGENERATE INTO YOU CALLING EACH OTHER NAMES? YOU DON’T EVEN KNOW EACH OTHER.>>TO BE FAIR, THAT’S POLITICS THE WORLD OVER.>>Adrienne: LET’S HOPE NOT BUT IT MIGHT BE HEADING THERE.>>38% OF YOU VOTED FOR THE BRAND-NEW BREXIT PARTY…>>Adrienne: A BEAMING NIGEL FARAGE WANTS TO MEET HIS FRIEND DONALD TRUMP THIS WEEK, THEY MAY HAVE A LOT TO DISCUSS. IT’S A BIG WEEK HERE FOR ANOTHER REASON TOO. THURSDAY IS THE 75th ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY. SO TONIGHT YOU’LL HEAR FROM A CANADIAN WHO THERE WAS THAT DAY WHO WAS SHARING HIS STORY FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. WE’LL BE BACK WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT LATER. UNTIL THEN BACK TO CANADA.>>Ian: ALL RIGHT, ADRIENNE, SOME PEOPLE IN OTTAWA ARE CLEANING UP TODAY. A TORNADO TOUCHED DOWN IN THE CITY’S EAST END AROUND DINNERTIME LAST NIGHT.>>I WAS IN THE KITCHEN AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I HEARD A CRACK! A BIG CRACK. I SAYS, MY GOD, WHAT’S HAPPENING TO MY HOUSE?>>Ian: SOME HOMES WERE DAMAGED ALONG WITH TREES AND FENCES. NO ONE WAS SERIOUSLY HURT BUT TODAY A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE OTTAWA AREA WERE WONDERING WHY THEY NEVER GOT A TORNADO WARNING BEFORE THE TWISTER TOUCHED DOWN. WE ASKED THE CBC’S STU MILLS TO FIND OUT.>>Reporter: A TOWERING FUNNEL CLOUD STARTED IN OTTAWA’S EAST END AND RACED ACROSS THE VALLEY. ONCE THE WINDS FINALLY DIED DOWN AGAIN, KIM LUSSIER EMERGED FROM HER HOUSE TO SEE THE DAMAGE. IT WAS ONLY AFTER THE TORNADO PASSED SHE GOT AN ALERT AND SHE THOUGHT THAT IT MEANT THAT THE TORNADO WAS COMING BACK AGAIN.>>IT FELT LIKE OH, LOOK OUT, IT’S NOT OVER, THAT’S WHAT THAT MESSAGE FELT LIKE. BUT WE DID NOT GET — I DID NOT GET AN INITIAL NOTICE TO TAKE COVER AT ALL. IT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE.>>Reporter: WARNED LATE AND AFTER IT MIGHT HAVE DONE SOME GOOD, LUSSIER IS NOW ANGRY.>>SO IT DIDN’T WORK, THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING.>>Reporter: ENVIRONMENT CANADA DID ISSUE A SERIES OF ALERTS FOR COMMUNITIES ALONG THE LIKELY PATH OF THAT TORNADO BUT NOT FOR OTTAWA ITSELF. THAT IN SPITE OF THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE DAMAGE WAS DONE HERE IN OTTAWA. NOW THERE WERE PEOPLE HERE WHO DID GET ALERTS ON THEIR PHONE. THOSE WERE ALERTS MEANT FOR PEOPLE LIVING IN GATINEAU. THE MERE FACT THAT THEY WERE RECEIVED HERE WAS DUE TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE’S CELLPHONES WERE CONNECTED TO CELL TOWERS BASED IN GATINEAU. FOR METEROLOGISTS IT UNDERSCORES HOW HARD IT IS TO FORECAST THE DANGEROUS FAST-MOVING STORMS.>>IN SOME PLACES THEY’VE GOT WARNINGS SEVERAL MINUTES BEFORE THE TORNADO HIT, BUT IT IS TRUE IN SOME PLACES THEY GOT THE WARNINGS MAYBE A COUPLE MINUTES AFTER.>>Reporter: THE COMPANY THAT SENDS OUT THE ALERTS, SAYS IT IS AWARE THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS AND IS REVIEWING WHAT HAPPENED. LISA OUIMET WATCHED THE WIND TRY TO LIFT AWAY HER GAZEBO, ONLY 15 MINUTES AFTER THE STORM HAD PASSED DID THEY FIND OUT THAT IT HAD BEEN A TORNADO.>>THAT’S WHEN WE GOT A NOTIFICATION AND MY NEXT-DOOR NEIGHBOUR GOT ONE ON HIS PHONE BUT IT WAS FOR GATINEAU. I NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING ON MY PHONE AND MY SON DIDN’T RECEIVE ANYTHING. AND THE NEIGHBOURS ACROSS STREET, NOTHING.>>Reporter: OUIMET IS AMAZED THAT NO ONE WAS HURT.>>ONCE IT WAS ALL OVER AND I SAT DOWN AND I WAS LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS. I JUST STARTED CRYING BECAUSE IT COULD HAVE BEEN SO MUCH WORSE.>>Reporter: STU MILLS, CBC NEWS, OTTAWA.>>Ian: PEOPLE IN OTTAWA WEREN’T THE ONLY ONES DEALING WITH THE AFTERMATH OF SEVERE WEATHER TODAY. RESIDENTS OF FORT SMITH IN THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES ARE CLEANING UP AFTER A POWERFUL STORM RAVAGED THEIR TOWN.>>OH, MY GOD!>>OH, MY GOODNESS.>>Ian: STRONG WINDS AND HEAVY RAINS COMBINING TO UPROOT TREES, COLLAPSE BUILDINGS AND DAMAGED THE VEHICLES IN THE SMALL NORTHERN COMMUNITY. SOME RESIDENTS REPORTED SEEING A TORNADO BUT ENVIRONMENT CANADA SAYS THAT THEY HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THERE WAS ONE. NO INJURIES HAVE BEEN REPORTED.>>WELCOME BACK! YAY!>>Ian: AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO FLED THE MASSIVE WILDFIRE NEAR HIGH LEVEL, ALBERTA, ARE NOW RETURNING HOME. THE TOWN AND THE SURROUNDING AREA HAVE BEEN UNDER AN EVACUATION ORDER FOR TWO WEEKS. THOSE ORDERS WERE LIFTED THIS MORNING. THE FIRE DOES STILL REMAIN VERY MUCH OUT OF CONTROL THOUGH. AND OFFICIALS ARE WARNING THOSE RETURNING THAT THEY BETTER BE READY TO LEAVE AGAIN ON SHORT NOTICE.>>Rosemary: STILL AHEAD ON “THE NATIONAL”… WHAT’S NEXT AFTER THE INQUIRY. AN IN-DEPTH INTERVIEW WITH THE MINISTER OF CROWN AND INDIGENOUS RELATIONS.>>Ian: PLUS, A CANADIAN VETERAN RE-LIVES THE HORRORS OF D-DAY AND RETRACES HIS JOURNEY NEARLY 75 YEARS LATER.>>>AND A LITTLE LATER ON THE SHOW…>>JAMES HOLZHAUER WHOSE 32-DAY CASH WINNINGS TOTAL $2,462,216. [Applause]>>Ian: THAT WINNING STREAK COMING TO A DRAMATIC END TONIGHT. WE’LL SHOW YOU HOW IT ALL HAPPENED. (*) (*) (singing).>>Rosemary: SO THE INQUIRY HAS FINISHED ITS JOB AND NOW THE WORK BEGINS, DEVISING A PLAN OF ACTION TO BREAK THE VIOLENCE AGAINST INDIGENOUS WOMEN AND GIRLS. CAROLYN BENNETT IS THE MINISTER OF CROWN INDIGENOUS RELATIONS, WE SAT DOWN A FEW HOURS AGO TO TALK ABOUT THE INQUIRY AND WHERE WE GO FROM HERE. WE BEGAN WITH THAT WORD THAT HEADLINED THE FINAL REPORT. MINISTER, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME, I APPRECIATE IT.>>GOOD TO BE HERE.>>Rosemary: LET’S START WITH THIS WORD THAT EVERYONE SEIZED HEADLINED THE FINAL REPORT. MINISTER, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THE TIME, I APPRECIATE IT.>>GOOD TO BE HERE.>>Rosemary: LET’S START WITH THIS WORD THAT EVERYONE SEIZED ON TODAY “GENOCIDE” THAT THE INQUIRY FELT STRONGLY THEY NEEDED TO USE THAT LANGUAGE. DO YOU AGREE WITH THEIR CHARACTERIZATION OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE AS GENOCIDE?>>I DO AGREE THAT THE COMMISSIONERS NEEDED TO WRITE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO WRITE BASED ON WHAT THEY HAD HEARD FROM THE FAMILIES. AND THAT THIS WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO FAMILIES. I THINK THAT FOR A LONG TIME THAT WE’VE KNOWN THAT THE COLONIAL POLICIES AND LAWS AND SEXISM, RACISM, KILLED PEOPLE. AND SO IT’S TOUGH BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS IS WHAT THE FAMILIES NEED TO HEAR.>>Rosemary: IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO RECOGNIZE IN SOME FORMALIZED WAY?>>I THINK THAT IT WILL BE IMPORTANT, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN CALL FOR JUSTICE WAS THE NATIONAL ACTION PLAN. AND I THINK THAT AS WE DEVELOP THE PLAN THEN WE’LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT — WHAT OUR PARTNERS WANT US TO DO.>>Rosemary: SO WHAT COMES OUT OF THAT AND HOW YOU ADDRESS THAT TERM WILL BE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION? CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT DISCUSSION A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THIS INQUIRY — I MEAN, FRANKLY, I’M SOMEWHAT SURPRISED THAT WE’RE HERE TODAY. IT GOT OFF TO A VERY ROCKY START AND THERE WERE A LOT OF BUMPS ALONG THE WAY, BUT THEY MANAGED TO COME UP WITH THIS EXTENSIVE REPORT. NOW YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE NATIONAL ACTION PLAN WITH ALL OF THE SAME KINDS OF PLAYERS, WITH ALL OF THE SAME JURISDICTIONS, EXCEPT NOW THE PROVINCES HAVE LOTS OF DIFFERENT GOVERNMENTS THAT MAYBE DON’T THINK THAT THIS IS AS MUCH A PRIORITY AS YOU DO. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? AND WHAT LESSONS HAVE YOU LEARNED FROM HOW YOU GOT THE INQUIRY STARTED?>>SO, I MEAN, YOU’RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND FOR THIS TO BE THE FIRST NATIONAL PUBLIC INQUIRY WITH ALL OF THE PROVINCES AND THE TERRITORIES ONSIDE AGREEING TO THE TERMS OF REFERENCE, AGREEING TO ALLOWING THE COMMISSION INTO THEIR JURISDICTIONS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS — THAT WAS A SIGNIFICANT BREAKTHROUGH. NOW WE HAVE TO WORK WITH ALL OF THE PARTNERS TO ACTUALLY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THE TERMS OF REFERENCE SAID, CONCRETE ACTION TO STOP THIS TRAGEDY.>>Rosemary: THERE WERE SOME VERY — I MEAN, THERE’S SO MANY RECOMMENDATIONS BUT THERE WERE CONCRETE ONES AROUND THE CRIMINAL CODE. AND I JUST WANT TO POINT TO TWO OF THEM. THAT VIOLENCE AGAINST INDIGENOUS WOMEN WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN AGGRAVATING FACTOR AT SENTENCING. SECONDLY, IF THERE’S A PATTERN OF ABUSE IN PREVIOUS RELATIONSHIPS THAT THE CRIME WOULD BE MORE SERIOUS, FIRST-DEGREE MURDER. HOW IMPORTANT IS TO RECHARACTERIZE, REQUALIFY, VIOLENCE AGAINST INDIGENOUS WOMEN AS A DETERRENT?>>I MEAN, I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL — ALL OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE CALLS FOR JUSTICE. AND ALSO I THINK THAT WE KNOW THAT WITH THE ISSUE OF ABUSE AND WHERE CHILD ABUSE LEADS TO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND ANGER, SUICIDE AND VIOLENCE AND INCARCERATION, THAT THERE IS A CONTINUUM WHERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT PEOPLE TO GET HELP. SO AS WE HEARD THROUGHOUT THE INQUIRY, HURT PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE. AND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ALSO WANT US TO REALLY LOOK AT THE — AT THE CAUSES.>>Rosemary: BUT AS YOU READ THROUGH IT IT IS OVERWHELMING A LITTLE BIT TO READ. AND OVERWHELMING TO THINK OF HOW TO SOLVE IT. DO YOU NOW AFTER ALL OF THIS — WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE AT AS A COUNTRY ON THIS ISSUE?>>I THINK THAT WE NEED TO REDOUBLE OUR EFFORTS TO HAVE THE 95% OF CANADIANS NOT FROM AN INDIGENOUS BACKGROUND ONSIDE. I THINK THAT BLAMING AND SHAMING IS — HAS BEEN REALLY BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO THE PROGRESS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE NEED TO READ THE REPORT. THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THESE DARK CHAPTERS IN OUR HISTORY.>>Rosemary: SO LET ME CIRCLE BACK TO THE FIRST QUESTION THEN ABOUT GENOCIDE. DO YOU THINK OF THE USE OF THAT WORD WAS MAYBE IN PART TO SHOCK PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT? NOT THAT IT’S NOT SOMETHING THEY TRULY BELIEVE AND THAT THEY HEARD FROM FAMILIES, BUT MAYBE IT WAS TO WAKE PEOPLE UP IN SOME WAY?MAYBE IT WAS TO WAKE PEOPLE UP IN SOME WAY?>>YEAH, I — I DON’T KNOW IF THAT WAS THE INTENT. I NEVER — BUT I DO KNOW THAT CERTAINLY THERE TODAY AND THAT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE. THEY — THEY FEEL THAT. AND THEY WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY FELT. THAT THEIR LIVES WERE LESS VALUABLE. TO ME, WE CAN’T LET THESE FAMILIES DOWN, WE CAN’T LET THEM DOWN AGAIN AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.>>Rosemary: OKAY, MINISTER, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.>>Adrienne: WE’LL BE BACK FROM LONDON AFTER THE BREAK. PART OF THE REASON THAT WE’RE HERE IN EUROPE THIS WEEK IS TO MARK 75 DAYS SINCE D-DAY. SO UP NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL,” THE STORY OF A CANADIAN WHO WAS ON THE BEACH THAT DAY.>>YOU RECOGNIZE THAT GUY?>>YEAH, YEAH.>>Reporter: HE WAS HANDSOME, WASN’T HE?>>WELL, THAT WAS TANAL,” THE STORY OF A CANADIAN WHO WAS ON THE BEACH THAT DAY.>>YOU RECOGNIZE THAT GUY?>>YEAH, YEAH.>>Reporter: HE WAS HANDSOME (*)>>Adrienne: THOSE FIELDS AND BEACHES IN NORMANDY STILL HAVE THE SCARS OF WHAT HAPPENED THERE 75 YEARS AGO. THE LARGEST SEABORNE INVASION IN HISTORY. MORE THAN 150,000 ALLIED TROOPS, AMONG THEM 14,000 CANADIANS, LANDING ON THE BEACHES, PUSHING THROUGH BRUTAL GERMAN FIRE. THAT DAY, D-DAY, WOULD TURN THE TIDE OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR. MANY OF THOSE CANADIANS WERE YOUNG, SOME TEENAGERS AWAY FROM HOME FOR THE FIRST TIME. THEIR TRIP TO THE BATTLEFIELDS OF EUROPE USUALLY BEGAN ON A TRAIN. AND WHILE THEY MAY HAVE LEFT AS BOYS THOSE WHO CAME HOME RETURNED AS MEN. AS TOM MURPHY LEARNED WHEN HE TOOK A TRAVELLING COMPANION ON A TOOK A TRAVELLING COMPANION ON A TRIP BACK IN TIME. (*)>>Reporter: THE YEARS MAY HAVE TAKEN THEIR TOLL BUT THE MEMORIES, THEY DO NOT FADE FOR 98-YEAR-OLD HAVELYN CHIASSON.>>CANADA DIDN’T HAVE AN ARMY SO THEY STARTED RECRUITING ALL OVER CANADA. EVERY CITY AND TOWN THEY WOULD TRY TO RECRUIT A BATTALION. LIKE THE NORTH SHORE.>>Reporter: THAT’S NEW BRUNSWICK’S NORTH SHORE REGIMENT, WHICH LIKE SO MANY ACROSS THE COUNTRY SUPPLIED A GENERATION OF YOUNG MEN TO A RAGING BATTLE. WHAT WAS IT LIKE TO LEAVE YOUR PARENTS, TO LEAVE YOUR HOME?>>IT WAS OKAY BECAUSE WE WERE ALL LOOKING FOR JOBS. AND WE WERE ALL THINKING THAT IT WOULDN’T LAST.>>Reporter: WERE YOU WORRIED, WERE YOU SCARED?>>NO. ACTUALLY I TOLD ONE YOUNG FELLA IN HIGH SCHOOL, HE SAID, WERE YOU EVER SCARED? AND I SAID YOU WERE SCARED ALL THE TIME. NIGHT AND DAY. YOU HAD NO IDEA THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE LIKE THAT.>>Reporter: NO IDEA?>>NO IDEA. LATER ON IN THE WAR OF COURSE WE REALISED WHAT WAR WAS ALL ABOUT. BUT UP UNTIL D-DAY WE DIDN’T.>>Reporter: ALL THESE YEARS LATER WEIGHED DOWN WITH MEDALS AND MEMORIES, HAVELYN CHIASSON IS RETRACING HIS STEPS, GETTING ON A TRAIN IN HALIFAX TO TAKE US ON A TRIP BACK IN TIME. LET’S GET YOU ON THE TRAIN, HAVELYN. I WANT TO SHOW YOU SOMETHING.>>OH, YEAH.>>Reporter: RECOGNIZE THAT GUY?>>YEAH, YEAH.>>Reporter: HE WAS HANDSOME, WASN’T HE?>>WELL, THAT WAS TAKEN IN 1942.>>Reporter: IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO?>>IT WAS LONG LONG AGO, YEAH.>>Reporter: WHEN YOU WERE GOING TO HALIFAX ON THE TRAIN DID YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU WERE GETTING INTO?>>NO, NO. WE KNEW THAT WE WERE GOING TO ENGLAND BUT AS I MENTIONED BEFORE WE DIDN’T THINK THAT IT WOULD LAST. BUT LITTLE DID WE REALIZE THAT IT WOULD LAST ALMOST FIVE YEARS. WELL, THERE WERE SO MANY SHIPS BETWEEN HALIFAX AND THE BASE THAT YOU COULD WALK RIGHT ACROSS WITH THE SHIPS. THEY WERE SIDE-BY-SIDE ALL THE WAY.>>Reporter: IN FACT, IT WAS A MASSIVE CONVOY ACROSS THE ATLANTIC. TROOP SHIPS LOADED DOWN WITH SOLDIERS HEADED TO ENGLAND. HAVELYN AND SO MANY OTHERS TRAINED FOR THE D-DAY.>>WE KNEW THAT A BLITZ WAS ON. WE KNEW THAT. SO THAT WAS QUITE A LOT TO THINK ABOUT AT THE TIME.>>Reporter: A LOT ON YOUR MIND?>>YEAH.>>Reporter: WHAT WAS D-DAY LIKE FOR YOU?>>WELL, WE HAD TRAINED FOR FIVE YEARS FOR D-DAY. WE WERE ALL LANDING AND THERE WAS ABOUT 3,000 TO 4,000 MEN WHO FELL IN THE WATER. SOME OF THEM HIT MINES AND WERE BLOWN UP. OTHERS HIT THE BEACH AND GOT STUCK THERE. SOME OF THEM GOT A QUARTER MILE OFFSHORE AND A LOT OF THEM WERE DROWNED. AND WE WERE LUCKY THAT SEVERAL OF OUR CRAFTS, INCLUDING OURS, HIT RIGHT ON THE BEACH. IT’S ONLY ABOUT A FOOT OF WATER. AND SO THAT’S WHAT D-DAY WAS LIKE.>>Reporter: WHAT DID YOU SEE? WHAT DID YOU HEAR?>>WELL, THE FIRST THING, OF COURSE, THAT HAPPENED WE LOST A HUNDRED MEN IN OUR REGIMENT, KILLED OR WOUNDED. SO THAT WAS THE BIGGEST SHOCK OF ALL. WE KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. BUT WE HAD NO IDEA THAT MANY MEN WOULD BE KILLED OR WOUNDED. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE NEXT DAY IT DIDN’T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. YOU JUST KNEW THAT SOMEBODY WAS KILLED, JIM WAS KILLED, YOU DIDN’T PAY MUCH ATTENTION TO IT.>>Reporter: YOU HAD TO KEEP ON GOING?>>YOU HAD TO KEEP ON GOING. THAT’S THE WAY IT HAPPENED. THAT HAPPENED QUITE A BIT.>>Reporter: YOU LOST A LOT OF GOOD FRIENDS?>>YEP, JUST THAT WAY, YEP.>>Reporter: TELL ME ABOUT YOUR FAVOURITE MESSAGE THAT YOU HAD TO SEND OUT?>>WELL, THAT WAS — THAT WAS MAY THE THIRD, THE WAR ENDED, AND THE OFFICIAL ENDING WAS MAY THE 8TH. AND BUT THE COLONEL HAD A MESSAGE AND SAID SEND THIS MESSAGE OUT. AND SO I LOOKED AT IT AND IT SAID CEASEFIRE, DON’T FIRE UNLESS YOU’RE FIRED ON BY THE ENEMY.>>Reporter: HOW DID YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?>>OH, IT WAS A GOOD FEELING.>>Reporter: YOU WERE GLAD THAT IT WAS OVER?>>YEAH, YOU WERE HAPPY THAT IT WAS OVER.>>Reporter: HAVELYN IS ONE OF THE LAST SURVIVING MEMBERS OF HIS BATTALION. HIS DUTY NOW HE FEELS IS TO TELL HIS STORY.>>A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T WANT TO TELL THEIR STORY BUT I THINK THAT IS WRONG. I THINK THEY SHOULD GO BACK AND GO TO THESE CEMETERIES AND READ A LOT OF THESE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE THAT I KNEW, A LOT OF THEM. AND I SAY TO MYSELF WAS IT REALLY NECESSARY? WHY — WHY COULDN’T PEOPLE JUST BE ABLE TO TALK SOME SENSE INTO ONE ANOTHER? BUT THEN I SAY TO MYSELF, WELL, THE SAME THING IS GOING ON THE SAME TODAY. THEY’RE STILL FIGHTING IN ALL OF THESE COUNTRIES AND THEY HAD MORE KNOWLEDGE THAN THOSE PEOPLE BACK IN THOSE DAYS. I DON’T KNOW WHY. I DON’T KNOW. IT’S A MYSTERY. (*)>>Reporter: WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT YOURSELF IN THE WAR?>>WELL, YOU LEARNED THAT YOU>>WELL, YOU LEARNED THAT YOU THINK ONE THING — YOU WENT IN AS A THINK ONE THING — YOU WENT IN AS A BOY AND YOU CAME OUT AS A MAN.>>Reporter: SO WE’RE GETTING CLOSE TO HALIFAX. HAVELYN, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR GETTING ON THAT TRAIN MORE THAN 75 YEARS AGO AND DOING WHAT YOU DID.>>YEP, YEP, I KNOW. IT WAS QUITE — QUITE A THING.>>Reporter: WE HAD QUITE A TRIP, HAVEN’T WE?>>I SAW SOME OF KANSAS TODAY I HAVEN’T SEEN BEFORE. [laughter]>>Reporter: TOM MURPHY, CBC NEWS, HALIFAX.>>Adrienne: WE HAVE A LOT MORE COVERAGE PLANNED FOR YOU THIS WEEK. WEDNESDAY NIGHT WE WILL BE IN NORMANDY WITH A STORY OF THE CANADIAN WOMEN WHO HAD A CRITICAL BUT DIFFERENT WARTIME MISSION — TO DECODE AND LISTEN. (*) IF PEOPLE COULD BE NATIONAL TREASURES, THEN 96-YEAR-OLD ELSA LESSARD IS ONE OF CANADA’S. SHOUTING FROM THE ROOFTOPS NOW ABOUT WHAT SHE DID DURING THE SECOND WORLD WAR AND WAS ORDERED TO KEEP QUIET ABOUT FOR DECADES. ELSA WAS A LISTENER.>>THE LISTENERS AROUND THE WORLD SHORTENED THE WAR BY TWO YEARS AT LEAST AND SAVED A QUARTER OF A MILLION LIVES. SO THAT MAKES ME FEEL PRETTY IMPORTANT AND IN GOOD COMPANY.>>Adrienne: WORK SO CRUCIAL FOR D-DAY FOR ENDING THE WAR.>>THIS IS ELSA LESSARD…>>Adrienne: RECOGNITION HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. “ELSA AND THE LISTENERS” THIS WEEK ON “THE NATIONAL.”>>AND ON THURSDAY THE 75th ANNIVERSARY OF D-DAY. JOIN US FOR A CBC NEWS SPECIAL STARTING AT 5:00 a.m. EASTERN. YOU CAN WATCH IT ON CBC TELEVISION, CBC NEWS NETWORK AND STREAM IT LIVE ON cbcnews.ca AND ON GEM.>>Ian: UP NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL”… A MONCTON COUPLE’S DESPERATE SEARCH FOR ANSWERS IN NATIONAL”… A MONCTON COUPLE’S DESPERATE SEARCH FOR ANSWERS IN THE DEATH OF THEIR BABY. WHY YEARS LATER THEY’RE STILL LEFT WONDERING WHETHER THE HOSPITAL COULD HAVE DONE MORE.>>AT FIRST I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHERE IS SHE? AND I DIDN’T BELIEVE ANYONE WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT SHE DIDN’T MAKE IT. (*) (*)>>Ian: JESSICA LeCLAIR AND ANDREW RANDALL’S DAUGHTER WAS BORN WITHOUT A HEARTBEAT, GONE BEFORE THE YOUNG COUPLE COULD SPEAK TO HER. NOW THEY WANT ANSWERS. AS GABRIELLE FAHMY EXPLAINS, THE HOSPITAL THAT DELIVERED THEIR BABY ALONG WITH THE HEALTH SYSTEM, IS STRUGGLING WITH STAFF SHORTAGES.>>Reporter: AN ULTRASOUND SHOWING A HEALTHY BABY GIRL STUCK TO THE FRIDGE IS A DAILY REMINDER FOR JESSICA LeCLAIR AND ANDREW RANDALL OF THE DAUGHTER THEY LOST.>>AT FIRST I WAS LIKE, WELL, WHERE IS SHE? AND I DIDN’T BELIEVE ANYONE WHEN THEY TOLD ME THAT SHE DIDN’T MAKE IT.>>Reporter: LeCLAIR WAS PUT ON OXYTOCIN TO INDUCE LABOUR. BECAUSE THE DRUG CAUSES STRONG CONTRACTIONS, THE BABY’S HEART RATE HAS TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY.>>SO THEY MONITORED FOR LIKE 30 MINUTES AND, BOOM, THEY STOPPED, NOTHING, NOTHING.>>Reporter: IN THE MEDICAL FILE THERE ARE GAPS FOR PARTS OF THE NIGHT WHERE THE BABY’S HEART RATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE RECORDED. AND A NOTE THAT SAYS THAT SHE SHOULD BE TAKEN OFF OF THE DRUG BECAUSE THERE WASN’T ENOUGH STAFF TO MONITOR HER.>>AS THE NIGHT PROCEEDED I NOTICED THAT THE HEART WAS GOING DOWN AND I COULD HEAR THE BELL GOING OFF. AND I SAYS IS THAT NORMAL?>>Reporter: BY MORNING LeCLAIR WAS BLEEDING. RUSHED TO THE OPERATING ROOM, BABY MACKENZIE WAS BORN WITHOUT A HEARTBEAT. THE COUPLE MET WITH THE HOSPITAL OFFICIALS MANY TIMES BUT THEY STILL QUESTION WHAT HAPPENED. HORIZON HEALTH SAYS THEY CAN’T DISCUSS CASES. IT S THEY SAY THEY HAVE CONTINGENCY PLANS IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT PATIENTS GET PROPER CARE BUT THEY ADMIT THAT LIKE MANY OTHER HOSPITALS IN THE PROVINCE THE LABOUR AND DELIVERY UNIT DOES STRUGGLE WITH UNDERSTAFFING. NEW BRUNSWICK IS GRAPPLING WITH A CRITICAL NURSING SHORTAGE. WITH NEARLY 400 NURSING POSITIONS VACANT. IT’S ESPECIALLY BAD ON MATERNITY WARDS WHICH IN SOME PLACES HAVE HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE SERVICES. IN ONE CASE FOR MONTHS. THE AUTOPSY SAYS THAT BABY MACKENZIE DIED FROM LACK OF OXYGEN. FOR HER PARENTS THAT’S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.>>I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A COUPLE HOURS EARLIER.>>Reporter: THEY’RE CONSIDERING THEIR LEGAL OPTIONS.>>Ian: NEXT ON “THE NATIONAL,” FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS NO ONE HAS BEEN ABLE TO CRACK THIS MYSTERY IN A SMALL ALBERTA TOWN UNTIL NOW.>>NOW IT’S JUST TOTAL DISBELIEF. KIDS WERE EXCITED AND A LITTLE BIT OF DUST FELL TO THE FLOOR AND I’M LIKE, OH, MY GOODNESS.>>Ian: WHAT THIS FORT MCMURRAY FATHER DISCOVERED NEXT IN OUR “MOMENT.” BUT FIRST… (*) “IN CASE YOU MISSED IT,” FOR WEEKS “JEOPARDY!” FANS HAVE BEEN ASKING WHEN JAMES HOLZHAUER WILL SHATTER THE ALL-TIME WINNINGS RECORD.>>WE COULD SEE A NEW RECORD SET HERE TODAY. ALEX, FALLING SHORT FOR $1,000.>>Ian: WHEN IS NEVER? YEP, THE 34-YEAR-OLD’S WINNING STREAK CAME TO AN END IN TONIGHT’S EPISODE. IT ALL CAME DOWN TO FINAL JEOPARDY.>>THE LINE “A GREAT RECKONING IN A LITTLE ROOM” IN “AS YOU LIKE IT” IS USUALLY TAKEN TO REFER TO THIS AUTHOR’S PREMATURE DEATH.>>Ian: HE DIDN’T EVEN GET IT WRONG.>>OVER TO JAMES. NOW HE HAD $23,400 AND HIS RESPONSE WAS? CORRECT.>>Ian: BUT HE MUST HAVE KNOWN THAT WOULDN’T BE ENOUGH, EVEN IF HE BET EVERYTHING HE’D STILL FALL SHORT OF THE LEADER IF SHE GOT IT RIGHT AND SHE DID.>>WHAT A GAME, OH, MY GOD.>>Ian: HOLZHAUER WAS A PHENOMENON, CHASING THE RECORD BY JENNINGS. HE TOOK HOME MORE THAN $2 MILLION IN 27 GAMES AND JENNINGS’ RECORD, $2.5 MILLION BUT IT TOOK HIM 74 GAMES. IN AN INTERVIEW, HOLZHAUER SAID THAT NOBODY >>Ian: FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS A SAFE HAS SAT UNOPEN IN THE VERMILION HERITAGE MUSEUM IN ALBERTA. LOTS OF VISITORS AND EMPLOYEES HAVE TRIED TO OPEN IT BUT FOR THE LONG EFFORT ON TIME NO ONE SUCCEEDED. UNTIL NOW. STEPHEN MILES WAS VISITING WITH HIS FAMILY WHEN THE TOUR GUIDE GAVE THE SPIEL ABOUT HOW THE SAFE WAS UNOPENABLE. AS A JOKE MILLS GOT DONE, PRESSED HIS EAR TO THE SAFETY AND FIDDLED WITH THE COMP DIINATION. AND WHAT HAPPENED NEXT IS OUR “MOMENT.”>>HE GOT DOWN ON HIS KNEES AND WITHIN TWO MINUTES THE SAFE WAS OPEN.>>I CRACKED IT OPEN. AND IT WAS TOTAL DISBELIEF. IT WAS QUITE AMAZING. AND TOM WAS EQUALLY SURPRISED, THE WHOLE FAMILY WAS. IT WAS GREAT. THE KIDS GOT EXCITED. THEY WERE LIKE, WE BEAT IT! WE BEAT THE CODE.>>IT SURPRISED EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM, PARTICULARLY MYSELF BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN SO MANY PEOPLE TRY AND NOTHING WORKS.>>IT WASN’T A POT OF GOLD AND WE WERE ALL KIND OF EXCITED — AND YOU WERE NERVOUS WHEN YOU OPENED UP THE DOOR BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.>>A RECEIPT FROM A HOTEL EMPLOYEE — AND A WAITRESS PAD.>>WE WERE ALL CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT WAS INSIDE, THOUGH IT WAS JUST A FEW ODDS AND ENDS IT WAS STILL A ONCE-IN-A-LIFETIME THING FOR SURE.>>Rosemary: AMAZING, RIGHT? SO ACTUALLY THE SAFE HAD NOT BEEN OPENED SINCE 1978. SO A LITTLE YOUNGER THAN MY CURRENT AGE — I LIKE TO GET THAT IN THERE — AND THE COMBO THAT STEPHEN PUT IN, NOT A MAGICAL COMBO — 20, 40, 60. IT SEEMS THAT ANYONE COULD HAVE FIGURED THAT OUT BUT HE DID.>>Ian: THAT IS THE 1960s SAFE EQUIVALENT OF PASSWORD AS YOUR PASSWORD, 20, 40, 60 AS THE COMBINATION. ALTHOUGH HE POINTS OUT HE’S NOT ENTIRELY SURE IF THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE COMBINATION THAT UNLOCKED IT OR MAYBE THIS OLD SAFE JUST KIND OF GAVE UP AND ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS PRETEND TO FIDDLE WITH IT AND OPEN IT. EITHER WAY I LOVE OLD SAFES AND I CAN’T WAIT TO GO TO A MUSEUM AND TRY 20, 40, 60. THAT IS “THE NATIONAL” FOR JUNE 3. GOODNIGHT.>>Rosemary: GOODNIGHT.

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