| SOCIAL SQUARE | The mother tongue question | Part 1

| SOCIAL SQUARE | The mother tongue question | Part 1



welcome back of course time not to get into our discussion today on social square it's all about cultural language in 2019 in Kenya how important is your mother tongue what are your thoughts about those who can't speak the mother tongue and of course what's the link between mother tongue and culture remember to to forge tweezers a mess line the hashtag is Debra can we already have one is that tweet on SMS whoever tweet let's put that up on the screen before we engage engineer Lazaro says language automatically reflects your culture and the environment you are brought up in so those who don't have language those who can't speak SEO she hasn't spoken before so let's give her a chance now your thoughts on branding Kenya and the tribes that make up our country spective we realize that as a nation we are made up of 42 different tribes and different cultures what do you two or more 42 43 yeah and that's quite a good thing and these are the ones that fit into a national identity but you have to agree as a matter of national identity it has to be a unifying factor so as a language as a national language it is good for us to have one or two that should unify all of us but that doesn't mean that language does not have a place in international identity if you look at the logo that brand Kenya uses it's a Masai it's a Maasai bead that has been customized to identify what Kenyans value of their own so language is important it should be it should be fostered but it should be a policy that you have to learn its Asia in the law yes that's it's either a language or Nora or you don't have to have one so that's one of the things that you have to consider it's a good thing if you when you're looking at you from a national branding perspective these days the new language to learn is Mandarin why because everything about China is where the business is going here so if you push yourself to a point where you can now even use your language to brand your nation it's a good thing it does it language relate to culture directly from the brand gain a perspective and if such how then do you break it down with all the 43 languages that we have right now what is the unifying factor because if the language a directory is related to my culture and his culture we may be different so what is the unifying car so what is a unifying factor what I'll tell you is that language is a subset of culture it's one way you're expressing your culture and as a country we have to identify what it is that unites us as a people and you'll find that all these aspects are when you look at how canyons are viewed as hard-working interpret your generous all of them have got their their roots in the African culture so you'll find that culture actually has a role in identifying who you are as a nation so as a nation we have identified ourselves as all those factors and there's something to unify us as a nation not an individual yes language is part of it and the language you have chosen to use is Swahili and English your core panelists are eating let's be honest in this nation how do you use language what do you use it for mm-hmm if we can't use it positively why should we entertain that why should we encourage having these many languages and then every day you notice if someone looks at you and they see you gonna run yeah géza wanna switch you notice it's for division it's not for unity mostly these languages I'm too aqui con baño nanokarrin geuman gaza language ananda automatically in critic and Rajat only come and talk with ya so it's not for unity purposes mostly I think if you can't use your phone as let me say as a parent if my kids can't use their phone nicely or more easily I think no away from them these languages mostly in Kenya we use it if we notice post-election violence me are almost dead because of these languages just because they I couldn't I couldn't express myself in vernacular I was being all yoga already or any of the a busca poses a radio or a moose carry or to UM be on a semolina what I do it in the real time I'm from that tribe but since CSG on care I was almost dying so these languages let's be honest yeah well if there's something I'm thinking we should even do away with is this all these other languages look at this the countries that have never experienced election violence due to tribes divisions and all that they've never had let me save it as a which is a sake kabila you got a Tanzania it has more tribes than Ken but jus a machine Delia Cornelia kiswahili more than all these other binoculars there are we are had compared to 2 in terms of unit divisions are the Kavita bit as a key the key to not catching you know who know you get it so I think if we can choose it positively I don't know why we are forcing ourselves look at other nations that are ahead yeah yeah if it's quaint unbaling let's look at example new states could not come to you cannot remote countries cocooned on us but they all have to learn but that English and operate with it there's a lot of squirming in the audience go ahead okay so there's this huge misconception that if we all speak one language then we'll develop it's a misconception because if we look at you mentioned the u.s. right within the u.s. there's Chinese there's Mexicans Mexicans there's all those different ethnic groups within that same us the Chinese have their own economy does Chinatown you go to Chinatown that I can assure you they're Chinese who've lived there in the US for more than 20 years and they do not speak English at all at all how do they get around I am find that hard to believe because everything you must they have they've built the only country in the town GPS you can put Chinese yeah so for them they don't have to it's like when you go to Chinatown they are not in a hurry to sell to you who doesn't speak Chinese you know what you give you their own people yes but is it a problem that it is completely not a bad thing so let's bring it back home in you yes over there the country so do you mean no can we have cute tone blue a town that we can now start speaking in Kiku and whatever else and when you come as whatever tribe I don't care what you want because I'm missus element of my tribesmen no bring it back home we have this idea that oh if we all speak if we if we all speak English and culture I mean in this case caches everything then how we dress the things that we decide to how we decide to eat in our homes a kind of music we decide to listen to so does that mean that because I'm of a certain tribe my child should not I should not be playing music of a certain tribe in my house because my kids don't understand it things like music it's it's like a language that all of us can understand so yes we have used language in very negative ways in this country but we cannot just erase it and say or because now there's tribalism because I cannot get a job I should not speak my language how is that going to help you in this case I totally disagree and differ with echo because when it comes to culture there is total difference with tribalism I think you are bringing in tribalism and we are talking about culture in culture there are some practices there are some teachings that are best addressed in language that once understand better today you woke up you're born in a society where they let's say let's let me use collagen or Kiko that there are some practices that actually doesn't entertain immorality in society and right now the reason why we are having high rate of crime in our society today is because there are some teachings that as the young people we didn't pass through because we were not these things were not conveyed to us in a better language that we understand better met for example the the act of killing most of the people doesn't realize that there is repercussion in it the cast that follows you because we just we just wake up we don't want to learn about culture we don't want to learn about teachings in the past that actually will have us that are lost in time yes the teaching these are the vital things in the society when it comes I don't have fingers and I'll still understand you I've played football in the previous a centering with previous life if I've to be honest in football we mostly speak not actions like uttanasana to body language and understand in this generation want to be thicker because they are not really my emojis Kong's perspective is that we lose it because yes the culture that we think that right now I'm saying that I lied to be honest somehow natural cuckoo understand but scoop adequate our nation you are trying to relate as with the United States of America and that will never work so we cannot be like United States does we can never be ok and for the opinion that we preserve our indigenous languages because language affects society there's something we call social linguistics and it is about how the way we speak the way we learn affects us in the communities that we live in the value belief systems that are there that is how you're able to understand through a native you know an indigenous language and it does not mean that because you don't speak it you may not learn those beliefs but it is easily understood when you know they're not the native language remember we say we speak we think fast in our method tanks there is translated to maybe a Swahili or an English but for me the discussion I hope that we'll be having for that bill is having people land Swahili because I don't know a national language Nagar in as much as we are preserving our native languages our children may not be able to speak Swahili today because in the schools they are taught in English and if today I challenge us here it is our national Africa beer I have free time there are countries that are debating and they are pushing for Swahili to be included so in as much as we want to preserve our Mata tongues which is very important in translating our values and beliefs let us not forget as a nation we have lost our national language and therefore that bill should be revised to also include Swahili to be a mandatory language to be spoken in schools not only in Swahili session but more days we love fat tanzania because they use Swahili but look at them they understand themselves more than we do for us Kenya to call somewhere before fluence comes in and I know she has some reactions we are at a point now where we are about fifty million Kenyans and we still have not found a way to harness our capacity to build the country in terms of resources so many are going abroad looking for opportunities America the United Kingdom et Cie if if you if you teach them kiswahili as their first language will they face disadvantages out there in a world that now has widely accepted English yes or no okay because you become a resource when you go out there in USA they are looking for the poor teachers to teach Swahili okay so you are actually more advantageous because then that is a job opportunity for you in this country you can never just learn Swahili English is the mode of communication okay so you're not just learning Swahili you are learning to national language actually our national language is English let's just be honest it's only that we hide behind brand Kenya what are you pushing for because now you had these arguments around here as brand Kenya the position is that the ignition recognizes two national languages English and Swahili language legally and every other enable a documents cornea documents okay but the business language in the official languages is English because I think for the ease of how things are done with English so again I'll have to agree with us on it here let us have a unified language because as a nation we have to move together moving forward but let us not forget the value that the indigenous languages give to us in distinguishing our brand as our as a country and in the values that it brings to the table in trying to identify ourselves as and as a as a nation of this of this caliber for example when you think about Messiah Messiah is largely associated with Kenyan residence by the fact that they're both in Kenya and Tanzania yeah so there are nice things that can come out from harnessing the language the issue is that let us not be confrontational about how we want this done let us let us let it come as a consensus but how do you draw that balance between Elkanah because Elkanah and a COAG are not seeing eye to eye and language because we have very very different languages in the country so where do you draw that balance such that it is not used in a bad way for me I think that one is something about growing your culture and how people interact and what values you want to to show as a nation as a nation one of the things we have to run away from is this issue of running behind your tribe and that is not what we want but it doesn't mean that the tribe itself and the language that the tribe comes on is wrong there are some values that come out from the tribe and that is what we should be able to harness as a as a nation brand to push the agenda forward okay so there are two things we need to to we and I think that's one of the things that I is it well alluding to we have tribe tribalism which is a character of its own probably an offshoot of the fact that you have different languages but there is nothing wrong with the language in fact you will agree with me most African languages are nice true like soy only when you hear somebody who speaks good Swahili you you get impressed everybody has like a post area which is put like when you hear somebody speaking about French you're like who your French is good there's a nice idea how people view the French language but it's got nothing to do with their characters or the characteristics of the French person whatever it is that is what like they could show me we need to be able to I want to bring you in a now to make this personal now one do you speak your mother tongue too what do you think about those who don't what are they missing and three what do you do about the perception that mother tongue is old school ask a young press when a young person has an accent a child all the children congregate around that person there's something different about them they stand out how do you make mother tongue popular amongst young people but to start with the second one which is is anyone anything anything anyone is missing if they don't know their mother tongue in your view I think there is a lot that you're missing when you don't know your mother tongue because there is a lot that you learn apart your your culture when you understand your mother tongue there are things that I I mother my mother turned that I cannot even I don't even know them you cannot translate them yet things that have been very hard for you to translate I think what what we want exact or equal you could have an emoji for them I'm very sad ethics he doesn't know but what is important for us as young people and I know we always hide as young people I grew up in in in Kibera and the most important thing you you get youth they don't want to speak in English at savage in their mother and a summation but when they grow up they start adapting their language I think it is just a issue of the generation and this also lighting and the environment and when the environment puts you into a level that you had to speak certain language speak that language if I go home I don't have to speak so really with my my grandmother my mother uncle's at home I speaks away I pick I speak to know that I speak one thing that Kenyans need to know and we always hide there is what we call negative ethnicity that what that is what is hailing Kenya that is what it's eating us I have no problem where he was speaking his mother but what comes to my mind when he speak his mother tongue is that there is something you're hiding or there's a – no there is something that you do want me to know until we start getting comfortable that you can be speaking your mother tongue and you have no problem if that is your business we always give example with tanzania tanzania has got more than 120 tribes and it's not that they don't speak their language they do speak their mother tongue but they don't care whether a guy comes from this mother tongue it is not important when they don't care so they always they only look at what it was what value are you contributing how do we embrace that let us embrace culture culture is very important in language is very important we must caution that bringing this to schools that we it has to be a curriculum somewhere anyway we have any primary schools that are Masai others a Somali so how many teachers are we going to employ to teach Somali in any primary you see the center because they also want to learn because those want to learn their language okay I'm seeing everyone's time together I know we haven't heard from you as well and and you as well so we take that back we have some feedback then we take the Brigham we come back we'll give the others a chance to speak all right let's bring them up all right let's Austin from Nakuru I believe he says I'm a lujah that speaks fluent Kikuyu with a Talon gene name I think making mother tongue monetary at a young age is a bad idea let cultural centers be used to teach culture I'm a Kenyan I have no mother tongue let's embrace unity as a nation we are way past ethnic differences fluently kuyou with a challenging name nearly semi-good okay let's take a look at the next one Victoria from decorating article 7 of the Constitution is clear that Swahili and English of coefficient languages twily osis recognized as a national language and at the same article the state is required to promote and protect the diversity of language of the people of Kenya furthermore it is expected to promote the development and use of indigenous languages because that is who we are as a nation or oil it's still seen as a mess line is 2 to 4 about you too Nixon Doogie Rae from kinder rumors is breaking a culture that was laid down by forefathers is not the way to go however blending cultures in making languages inclusive is quite in order okay thank you Nixon for that faithful view of daybreak okay three tweets first one I am David Betty please be advised that culture cannot be cascaded down to the next generation people should embrace their culture accorded as just trying to justify what he has done in his house okay alright and just B's is the English maintained their native language and spread it to the rest of the world and last one here a Goomba Steve anybody who doesn't feel pride of speaking his or her language to delete Richert ISM Wow okay for his or abuse culture and language go hand in hand that's new okay you know that note we're taking a quick break here on Daybreak keep the hashtag at daybreak SMS to to phone about you to a treble major to a get more at since ek will sample some of yous doing this broadcast about culture don't I am blessed I am blessed I will keep it real that's a tough question is the reaction is when they are hanging out with with oh we know kamau yes simcha bet and then I am blessed and blesses an entire sentence is a sentence rather when we come back

3 thoughts on “| SOCIAL SQUARE | The mother tongue question | Part 1

  1. wacha ujinga hatuwezi acha vernacular languages, we can integrate without eliminating them. The divisions are because of the politicians who are greedy and careful to maneuver their ways

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