Populism, liberal democracy and Russia

Populism, liberal democracy and Russia



so the general question is how come that we are now live in time and what they call populism or whatever you want to call it and more and more offer to of eclectic regimes why is that now to quote more or less becoming the new rule instead of you know old-fashioned liberal democracy based on liberal values I think I would want to ask the question whether whether we may be in the submerge sense but nonetheless in a real sense many people certainly many people in the West and the other parts of the world whether not whether we accept right now the whole package called liberal democracy but do we accept core moral principles on which the liberal democracy is built and core more principles in which it is built or – that is one is the freedom of conscience and that and the other one is equal dignity of every every person an equal voice in running the public affairs and it would seem to me that although it seems that we are in the process of untied democratization so to speak in the world today nonetheless for many people these two core or three core principles they remain stable and I think I would want to build upon these principles and strengthen so that we can build the kind of institutions that are appropriate to local situations but that embody these two principles will have plurality then will have the ability to live together as different let me say something the way I see it no Russia is not a liberal democracy and though it has certain people certainly I would say virtual community of those who say that they share these liberal democratic principles but actually they do not because they have their own little dictatorship and you cannot trust them in no way now what happens Russia is an autocratic state it always has been always it was never interrupted by any democracy at all so you have to take that into consideration talking about this country it's the same thing with many middle eastern countries governments they are based on different principles which Americans who enter the country did not understand they may have been in a horrible in many ways but you should not break these principles or suggest some Western approach you know to Iraq or whatever otherwise you get what you get now about inertia the way there are people in Russia who not being Christians no but having this really loving hearts understand that some huge problems should be dealt with one of them is no doctors and no hospitals for children with oncology right so in order to build these hospitals out of nowhere the government doesn't want to listen about it doesn't want to hear there was a woman and actors Jill pancha whatever is her name she couldn't stand it she couldn't see it she had some money of her own and she was very loved by people she's a good actress and a very nice person she she started this program trying to make the government built this huge hospital for children with an collage occur diseases and in order to get some money to fundraise she went as far as to meet Putin and he was because no one wanted actually to say yes finally here's my signature all money that was promised was somewhere disappeared quickly there were many marathons fundraising marathons but money did disappear so she needed support a real solid support so she went as far as the mid Putin and he helped her so the hospital with all doctors everything was built now this liberal public started hating children they hated her so much they just shamed her they said all kinds of dirty things about her because she did you know to contact Putin and put in his bed and put in as a dictator so to hell with your you know ill children the moral principles are much more important for them this is one extreme case and another one is right now these days yesterday I read more news about it there is another woman on the feather Messer she and her mother her late mother were the founders of the hospices for terminally ill for people who are terminally ill because these people they didn't get any relief they couldn't get painkillers nothing like that they just stayed in their apartments in horrible pain they did a great work and they built hospitals all around the cities and they saved the this pain and there is lost you know sufferings for many people and also she went as high as far as first the mayor of Moscow whom everyone hates for many reasons and then up to Putin so the last I saw yesterday was her photo she and Putin they stood in front of each other and discussing things when they see these photos I know that the people who and it may be me tomorrow you know who will suffer from this in cruciate in pain with no way out because the only way out is dying you know she's she's saving their people you cannot imagine the wave of hatred that this liberal public you know had pushed against her it's like a tsunami so to hell with these people who have moral principles I prefer staying with those who have this heart you know going to children and old people they gain nothing tiny bit but to say the same footin has also been responsible for extraordinary cruelty yes you're giving instances of benevolent that's right no yeah I know the thing is that this this cruelty would have happened anyway sure sure this is my idea that's how this type of countries are how they run Russian lacks is historical perspective and in liberal democracy is what a hundred one hundred fifty years old probably not two hundred years old and it is a kind of miracle that it ever came into existence and no wait wait but one of the things you learn about all forms of progress is that progress is never linear and it's never inevitable and it's never irreversible so that the struggle it's there will never come a time when the whole world will be once and for all Liberal Democratic it's like the beginning of that film mr. incredible when they're interviewing and they say to him aren't you tired of rescuing people and he says yeah I saved the world but the world just won't stay saved I mean you know those those principles of which I spoke earlier are centuries old they have to take political form because they have to have something to do with how political power relates to them right but my point is you're absolutely right my point is Russia is not a liberal democracy it's very very far from it why doesn't it you know try to pick up this you know to have America as a model for different reasons but while it doesn't happen those who the the public you know the community which could have been a community of people who would somehow help transfer the principles of liberal democracy to Russia they spent their time on hatred and hatred towards those who are doing something not being Christians in both cases so do you think that democracy is not a universal concept this is what people say about Muslim societies that they just not I think I am Not sure but I think that Russia is a hybrid society in this respect because the idea of democracy is not completely rejected you know in Russia the the society is loose in this way in many ways religiously loose in many other ways and it is rather good if Russia became a liberal democracy it will not it will not know I'm a liberal democracy no I don't know but when they were efforts of establishing democracy in early 90s then people chose for example the governors of the city the mayors from the bandits because these bandits they already stole killed enough people and stole enough money to give people promises and people are promised okay this is how democracy work they were very democratic it was very democratic procedures and so it happened once and then the second time the third time and of course when you see it and you think ok that these people they are really crazy and it will lose everything and these people will stop let's just go around these principles so you start going around these principles and you end up with autocracy you

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