POLITICS IN GERMANY – My View of the German Federal Election

POLITICS IN GERMANY – My View of the German Federal Election

47 thoughts on “POLITICS IN GERMANY – My View of the German Federal Election

  1. Once again dad as much as I hate it the place they call Germany is actually what is what they call America today where my Darnell and my Gowens the father of the Gowens lived when he was here in Berlin with me is the American section in a certain area down here in Berlin I think in the southern Berlin, like I said of technology might of these fools so analyze that and make the necessary move dad. Also the your one son Jones I just described who is wearing you my dads shoes as a Jones is actually a Darnell lol, just to make it clear for you to get me on some of the things that went down foolishly. Have a great one and may God continues to bless you. Bye God bless you.

  2. Comrade Merkel, you got that right, she is a closet communist and received her indoctrination in the DDR, (German Democratic/communist Republic), a leopard does not change its spots. She has fooled Germany for long enough, she is an expert cumming communist mole.

  3. In my country even dead people are voting, I dont know if dead people vote Sunday,they can vote after two weeks doesn't mater

  4. Kam zwar nichts bei raus, die Raute vernichtet immer noch. Aber wenigstens haben wir jetzt eine kontrollierte Opposition

  5. In America the Republican party is in power. Voting is not going to get easier, only harder. With every election comes new restrictions.

  6. In Washington State, EVERY election is mail-in ballot; probably exactly like your expat ballot. No one has to take off work to vote here. It's awesome, actually. 🙂

    The USA has many parties too and they are all on the ballot. Thing is, only the Democrats and Republicans get anywhere near a REAL chance of winning the election. But we do have multiple parties and they are all on the ballot.

    Another thing about US Elections: You NEVER (and I do mean never) hear about the state of Ohio UNLESS it's a Presidential Election year. Then it's "Ohio this" and "Ohio that" every friggin' day.

  7. in the Netherlands you vote by parlemanty elections for a person of a party, last year there where 26 parties, who wanted a seat. Only 13 get in the parlement, 1 new one get in , Forum voor Democratie. A party in a certain way like AFD

  8. It's dumb to complain about too many political ads and too much political campaigning in the U.S. We could ban them like Germany, but we have this First Amendment thing that gets in the way.

  9. 4:41
    Actually, that's not true.
    There's 42 political parties in both countries.
    It's just that in the US the majority of them has no representation at federal level, or they don't even qualify to take part in a presedential election while way more of the german ones do qualify for the federal election.

    Interesting really, compared to Norway where we only have 26 political parties.

    As for representation in Norway we got 9 political parties represented in the national parliament, Germany got 14 at a federal level and the US got 2 at a federal level.

    There's no lower limit for a seat in the Norwegian parliament unlike the German one.
    However our system dissadvantages political parties with less then 4% of the votes as they can only get representatives based on their polularity in a particular election circuit and have to win a seat in that election circuit while parties with more then 4% of the total votes on a national level can compete for seats based on their national popularity.
    Meaning that if a party with a lot of votes gets more seats then their percentage of votes at a national level would give them because of local popularity and another get less then the difference will be compensated for with seats not picked by the individual election circuit but in stead the percentage of the votes they got at a national level, provided that they get at least 4% of the votes, otherwise they can only get representation by being popular enough in an election circuit to gain a seat from there directly.
    Kind of like the US system really except there's no winner takes it all approach.

    Well, one thing I'm not a fan of with the German system is its tendency towards rainbow coalitions.
    When the major parties of a multi-party system have enough distance between them to not be likely to form coalitions between them it's possible for smaller parties to play them up against eachother to gain political party by getting the swing vote in the parliament when voting for a cabiet proposal.

    So for instance here in Norway we have often had a strong political center made up of several small political parties, at times they've managed to form a cabinet with support from other parties who may or may not choose to join them in the cabinet.
    The last few years they have however choosen to join either the left block or the right block for the most part with the green party being the only party that genuinly considers both blocks as equaly valid options for them (in part because they're fairly new on the norwegian political scene as far as actually having parliamentary representation goes).

    So the current cabinet is made up of the conservatives (center-right) and the "progress party" (anti-tax and anti-immigrant populist right wing party although slightly more moderate then many of the far right parties further down in the continent, part of the reason why the conservatives are in a cabinet with them is to try to keep political parties that's more extreme and further to the right from growing), this cabinet managed to gain power by getting the support of two other political parties, the christian peoples party (socially conservatives but also concerned with the welfare of poor people and aiding people in need in other countries, so development aid etc, they tend to focus on things like trying to reduce the abortion of people with downs as well as just abortions in general, making it easier to form families where one of the parents stays at home looking after the child/children, protecting the rights of refugees, helping drug addicts and homeless people and third world countries and so one and so forth, oh, and they care a lot about restricting the access of alcohol, tobaco, weed and anything else of that kind, but actually care about climate change, unlike the progress party and the conservatives as they see humans as stewards of gods creation and man made climate change is the destruction of something god has created), the other political party who supported the conservatives and the progress party in forming a cabinet was the liberals, they're economically right wing but are socially progressive and just in general cares a lot about freedoms and rights both for individuals and organizations, they are the oldest political party in the country while the conservatives is the second oldest political party.

    Both the liberals and the christian peoples party have a very strained relationship with the progress party and decided to decline joining the cabinet with the conservatives when it became clear that the progress party would take part but they also fulfilled their promise to ensure a right wing cabinet this term.

    Yet by having small parties in the middle and the two biggest parties (the labour party and the conservatives) not being willing to enter a coalition together the swing votes actually ends up in the hands of the liberals and the christian peoples party.
    So when the minister of justice, a representative from the progress party who has created scandal after scandal after scandal with her outrageous statements (she's essentially the Donald Trump of Norway) decided to accuse the labour party for prioritizing the rights of terrorists over the rights of citizens just because they voted against her proposal to revoke the citizenship of suspected terrorists without involving a court, something that's extra offensive because the labour party is the only political party in Norway that has ever been directly targeted by terrorism and the statement was released on twitter roughly when a movie about that event was released it ended up with the parliament having enough…

    The Reds (an alliance of multiple far left parties, including the former communist party) proposed a vote of no confidence against the minister of justice and after some time the labour party decided to back the proposal, the socialist left party (left wing party left of the labour party but right of red) and the center party did likewise (the center party was the former pesants party, basically their primary concern is slowing down urbanization and centralisation and increasing local political and economic power), in other words the whole left wing block decided to back the proposed vote of no confidence.
    Forcing the christian peoples party to take a stance.
    After some deliberation they decided to support the proposal as well (the minister of justice making several offensive comments towards the christian peoples party like accusing their leader of "licking imans up their back" certainly didn't help her in this case, nor her failure to understand why all the other parties where upset, she kept trying to appologize but kept appologizing the wrong thing again and again and again)

    So, she ended up resigning.
    And with her resignation the cabinet didn't have to make a choice about demanding a vote of no confidence for the whole cabinet or not.
    (They had indicated that either they'd all go or non of them would go).
    So now she has left the cabinet and returned to the parliament, thanks to the power of a small political party with the swing vote.

    The christian peoples party has had the prime minister more then once despite never being the biggest party in Norway.

  10. I do see your point, if the election day is not on a weekend then people should get time off to vote.

  11. Why does the United States have to be like every other country? Just stay in Germany if you dislike how we do things.

  12. One strategic use of Erst and Zweitstimme (literally first and second voice, meaning first and second vote) are the usual coalitions it seems. So if 2 parties usually create a coalition, it seems to be beneficial to give the first vote for a candidate of the first party and the second vote for a party that usally forms a coalition with the party of the first candidate.

  13. It's a very similiar voting situation in the UK. In a general election you have two votes. 1 for your candidate from your district and 1 for the party you want to have in your parliement. So in Scotland I voted Green Party and SNP-Scottish National Party

  14. In Croatia: Parliamentary elections are run 1 month. We have 151 seats in the multi-party propositional parliament. 140 seats are elected in 14 electoral districts. In each electoral district, 14 MPs are elected according to open list proportional system (you vote for a party and for a person who will represent that party in the parliament). 3 seats are elected by citizens living abroad, and 7 are elected by national minorities. Currently we have around 10 parties in the Parliament. For presidential elections, campaign is run in 2 rounds, in a month and a half.

  15. CDU is CDU/CSU not even telling who is the largest partie is that easy xD It dosent matter who you vote you have the choice of afd or the rest. And the afd will never be the governoument. German politic is complicated all you had to know is Merkel took everyone who got dangerous to her away xD

  16. In Germany they re-designed the voting system after the war. The American system is (sorry it is true) really poor. Only two parties, winning the popular vote but loosing.. way to much power by the president.no system is prefect but America should really change its system. The most undemocratic is that you have to register to vote and that in many states they make it on purpose impossible for black people to vote. Gerrymandering ( sorry if I write it wrong) standing whole day in line, and then being to late to vote… How can people be proud of a country like that.

  17. I feel if it were Sunday the voter turnout would be lower. It seems most people I know, only go out and vote because they are already out working. I stopped voting.

  18. Is AfD really the anti-immigrant party? I mean, are they against all immigrants or just the illegals ones? Calling a border jumper "undocumented worker" is like calling a burglar an "undocumented guest." I know that Germany needs workers, but why do they have to come from hellholes? Why not Spaniards or Greeks or some European place that has a weak economy?

  19. yeah, I don't think german elections are what would make people go "hum?". I was explaining american elections to a friend while we were walking her dog in the middle of the night (you can walk around in the middle of the night, it's safe here) and she started getting frustrated at how insane they were and screaming about it. word "undemocratic" was used by her too. as for differences between our and german elections, there are none I can see, although I'd probably word it differently. as far as I know almost every democratic country uses same model, germany is not exceptional to the rest of the world. america is the odd one out, but again, america is not a democracy.

  20. Uh Dana… As far as I am remember you are living in barvaria…
    and not a single word about the unique union between CDU and CSU? 😉
    Some people may be unhappy with that ^^ *grin*

  21. Just heard a few words but your German sounds awesome (being a German you know how much that means 😉 ). Keep up the good work. The explanation of our political system was very well made

  22. The Swiss System (very complicated. Swiss people: please correct me if I'm getting anything wrong):
    The parliament consists of two chambers (similar to the US): The "Nationalrat" (National Council) and the "Ständerat" (Council of States). The Nationalrat represents the people, whereas the Ständerat represents the "Cantons" (the states of the Helvetic Confederacy). The actual administration, the "Bundesrat", consists of 7 members that are elected by the "Nationalversammlung" (National Assembly), which consists of the Nationalrat and the Ständerat.

    The Nationalrat election:
    The seats in the Nationalrat are filled proportonally to the people's votes. It is elected as follows: You get one list of candidates per party plus one with independent candidates. You throw one list into the ballot box. On the list you want to elect, you can cross out two candidates and replace them either with another candidate from the list or with a candidate from another list. The former means that you double your vote for someone on this list, the latter means that you give an extra vote to someone from another party you particularly like. The number of times a party's list is voted for decides over how many seats the party gets. The number of votes for individual candidates decides, who gets to fill the seats a party has won. Every party has a full list of a max of 34 candidates, but can only fill the seats they actually win. Those seats, again, are filled with the candidates who won the most individual votes.

    The Ständerat election:
    The Ständerat election takes place on the level of the Cantons. Each canton sends two representatives to the Ständerat, with the exception of a few small cantons who only get one representative. The two candidates who get the most votes from the population of their Canton are sent to the Ständerat, regardless of their party (you could actually vote any Swiss citizen, as long as she/he is unambiguously identifiable. She/he doesn't have to be in a party or even officially apply as a candidate beforehand).

    The Bundesrat election (the actual administration):
    The bundesrat consists of 7 members who are all equal in power. There is a president, but he merely leads the sessions, is rotated every year and has no more power than the others. The Bundesrat is elected by the Nationalversammlung (again, that's the Nationalrat plus the Ständerat). But it is never the entire Bundesrat that is elected, only the seat(s) that become available. Those seats don't become available in a regular frequency. Only if a Bundesrat (yes, the members of the Bundesrat have the same designation as the organ itself :-)) steps down from her/his post, a new candidate has to be elected. The new Bundesrat is elected through majority vote in the Nationalversammlung. The Bundesräte that want to continue in their office usually don't get voted down. That happens only very rarely, when one of them screws up badly. There is no limit to the number of terms. The election is usually followed by a reshuffling of the departments (the ministerial portfolios).
    Now it gets even more complicated: There is a tradition (not a law or an article in the constitution) called the "Zauberformel" (the "magical formula") that describes how many Bundesräte of which of the larger parties are in the Bundesrat. The – most of the times diplomatic – Swiss usually don't disregard that tradition (only if one party suddenly gets a lot more votes, then the Zauberformel is adapted accordingly, given that the Nationalversammlung plays along). At the moment, it is 2 x FDP (neo-liberals), 2 x SP (social democrats), 2 x SVP (right wing, nationalist, anti-immigrant) and 1 x CVP (Christian people's party).
    Now, how does it play out without an actual president? The Bundesräte discuss until they come to a compromise. If they can't, they vote within the Bundesrat. However the vote turns out, ALL 7 Bundesräte have to represent and not criticize the decision towards the public. That's called the "Kollegialitätsprinzip" (the collegiality principle).

    Other votes:
    Switzerland is a direct democracy. This means that the Swiss can make amendments to the Constitution at any time. You just have to gather 100'000 valid signatures for a constitutional initiative within a year and and win the popular vote on it. Also, you can overturn a law that has been passed by the Nationalrat by collecting 50'000 signatures within 6 months and then winning the popular vote on it. This means that we vote over things like credits for public construction projects, specific laws and so on. Also, we have to elect candidates for the schoolboard regularly. We get a nice envelope with lots of different things to vote on every three months or so. 🙂 In my oppinion, this is the reason why the acceptance for decisions made in the parliament is much higher here than in other countries: We have a say in pretty much everything. If your side loses, it has lost in a fair way and you can only blame your fellow citizens, not the politicians. The down side is that our Constitution is full of crappy amendmends that sometimes contradict each other or even the original constitution. Especially (but not exclusively) the right wing parties use this to fuel their election campaigns and to sneak their racism into the constitution (for example, we have an article banning the construction of Minaretts, which, in my opinion, illegaly infringes on the principle of equal rights and maybe freedom of religion, unless the ban would be applied to all other tower-building religions too).

    Oh, I forgot: Similar proceedings as the ones mentioned above apply to all elections on all different levels like Cantonal votes or Communal votes.

    By the way, did you know that Switzerland sometimes calls itself the Sister Republic of the US? Probably because of the similarities in the division of power …

    Easy, right? Questions? XD

  23. Voting is easy, counting the votes and determining the formation of the parliament is what's really complicated.

  24. If you ever watch german TV then watch „extra 3", „Neo Magazine Royale“ or „ZDF Heute Show“

  25. The Zweitstimme is meant to work against such a mess that happened with the American presidential election. To keep it very short, Zweitstimme means, that the popular vote elects the government.

  26. It would be new for me that Die Linke is getting most of the votes from eastern germany….the opposite is the case.

  27. So how does it work? What document/s does Mr Germanman need to show at the ballot in order to vote?

  28. One interesting aspect that I frankly do not know much about in the US is the fact that in Germany elections are executed by the people – not by any officials or professionals. This includes staff at the poll station and mail voting places, which are of course publicly accessible to anyone who wants to observe the procedure and counting after 6 pm. As the US (and Britain) have got constitutions from times when no telegraph lines or railways were in place (just horses!), they implemented that concept of electoral college to which electors had to deliver their parish's voting results (just the candidate who won). That is funny in today's world, where all votes can be counted within 24 hours, and it leads to absurd deviations between public votes (actual majority for a candidate by voters) and electors' votes (representing parishes of different population and voters-size).
    Maybe, some articles in a constitution ought to be updated to modern technology, such as the voting method or the use of firearms for "self-protection" in a world of 911, road networks and police helicopters. Even the Vatican has updated a few dogmatisms (Vatican Council).

  29. Since the US and Germany both allow double citizenship, why don't You apply for the german citizenship. That way You could vote the next elections.

  30. We just had an election here in Japan… and thank freakin' goodness it's over!!!! They drive vans around and SHOUT OUT a bunch of political stuff (idk I don't speak enough Japanese to understand most of it) from 8 am to 8 pm from giant speakers. It's so loud that when they drive by your flat, you have to stop talking because the people next to you can't even hear you shouting. I've had to record videos around it…. ::end of rant::

  31. In czech republic you vote just for one party, but you can give preferential votes ("circles"). We had around 30 parties this election and 9 made it into parlaiment, including anti-immigration party ironically lead by half-japanese entrepreneur and politician Tomio Okamura and Pirate party. We now have first ever representatives with dreadlocks (from the Pirate party, of course) and first representative with an Afro (he is 21 years old activist and social media star).

    There is different ballot for each region and the system is kinda unfair, because the strongest parties need way less votes for one mandate in the Parlaiment. This system was voted in some time ago by parties lead by Klaus (the expresident that steals pens) and Zeman (the president who gets likes to get drunk), because they hoped their parties would be just passing the government back and forth.

    Yeah, young democracy. we a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT to learn. But hey, we got Pirate party, so we are bit awesome, right?

  32. I think it's a law that employers have to allow their employees to leave to vote if they can't make it there by closing after or before work.

  33. I live in Austria and our political system is pretty equal to the german one. But how can you americans stand those campaigning for more than one year? I am even annoyed by the 6weeks campaigning 😅😅

  34. In New Zealand we've just had our election too and the various blocks are starting to enter negotiations with each other to form a government. We also have MMP (Mixed Member Proportional) as in Germany, and have also adopted the 5% threshold for a Party to obtain a seat in Parliament.

  35. In Thailand, on election days selling of alcohol is prohibited – but if you search long enough you will find a small Supermarket selling it to you secretely behind the counter 😉

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