Noam Chomsky on Colonialism

Noam Chomsky on Colonialism


What does colonialism mean? well like any term of About human affairs it covers a vast range. There’s all kinds of colonialism [I] mean the worst kind of colonialism is what’s called settler colonialism? like the United States or Australia or Israel now through lesser extent a settler Colonialism like the United States and Australia Means You exterminate the indigenous population Maybe not [100%] but you know pretty close, so that’s a worst kind of colonialism. That’s us There’s other kinds of colonialism. Which are less extreme So take we were talking before [about] Wilson and Haiti and Clinton and haiti as a form of colonialism in which you effectively Take over the country for your own benefit get as much as you can out of it and [drive] the population and to Destroy the agricultural system drives the population in the cities all for the most benign reasons you know of great economic Progressive reasons and you end up with the Say the Earthquake that just happened nothing of the kind of colonialism other kinds are there’s many other kinds and so you know say take take the us and philippines which happen to be an innovation in imperial history The u.s. Invaded the Philippines in about a century ago It killed a couple hundred thousand people It was vicious racism none of these guys unbelievable racism people here weren’t even sure whether the filipinos were humans, or apes they were exhibited in the international Affairs, and that’s sort of I’m going to just over in this when you look back at it Of course all for the most noble reasons were uplifting them christianizing them you know giving them civilization the usual stuff There were scattered Opponents people are not unknown people like mark twain He wrote very sardonic and cutting [anti-imperialist] essays he wasn’t hanged, he didn’t have his brains blown out, but they were suppressed The in fact I think [that] finally came [out] around 20 years ago in some scholarly edition that nobody ever read Syracuse university press But they were there was an anti-imperialist league, but it just… What happened after you conquered it That was at the innovation. It has just been studied in a really magisterial book great book by Alfred McCoy whose historian the Philippines among other achievements He’s the first person to have studied in detail how they dealt with the population after they more or less still haven’t totally conquered them, still going on but Pretty much sort of pacified the country well it turns out there was a major innovation In imperial history which had a lot of consequences right till today in the philippines and everywhere else [what] was instituted was a very sophisticated High-Tech Control and surveillance system now the technology of then was not the technology of [now], but it existed Telegraph radio other surveillance techniques. Every technique was [used] that was [available] to try to control, monitor, subdue the population there were also pretty sophisticated techniques of Undermining resistance that were used, so co-optation of elites Spreading rumors you know using every device you had to try to undermine the nationalists Done very well and of course there’s a metal fist and the background is the philippine constabulary the Something that happens every in colonial imperial system. You have a you know kind of a power military force of Collaborators which should do what you tell them and they usually trained killers, so and you can set it up, so let’s say you pick people from one tribe to kill another tribe You know use a rural population to smash the urban population. It’s done in various ways in fact we do it right now This minute that’s the way the u.s. Is hoping to run the occupied Palestinian territories, there’s a US run army that’s supposed to subdue them And it’s highly praised by Obama and Kerry and the liberals and so on Anyway this array of techniques was worked out with quite impressive detail And applied in a very sophisticated fashion [it] still applies, Philippines is still pretty much under this system, the [Philippines] which remains a kind of a quasi colony is the only part of [Eastern] Southeast Asia that has not been part of the so-called economic miracle, you know take a look at Taiwan, South Korea Even indonesia, and so on has been a lot of economic [development], not the philippines, but pretty much under this system It’s the one part of the region that we still run and there was an immediate blowback Wilson and the British during the first world war used a lot of these techniques domestically Consciously it could apply them at home too. Now. It’s extreme. So you go to Britain. It’s a surveillance society Now cameras on every street corner, you know the allegedly anti-terror devices. Here too the Patriot Act, and the u.s. applied them in other countries right away, so Haiti, Dominican Republic. You know Nicaragua. Well, that’s another kind of Colonialism and very It makes a lot more sense than occupying the country it works much better. It’s cheaper It can work [very] effectively in the philippines, its 100 years And it applies back it develops techniques to apply back home for controlling and subduing Populations and breaking them up and so on, well that’s another kind of colonialism. In any event, to get back to your question, there’s no answer to what is colonialism. It’s just one form in which Powerful systems subdue others, and they subdue their own population There’s nothing new about that I mean, that was pointed out by Adam Smith like He’s not a fool, I mean what he pointed out and what the international affairs specialists don’t seem to understand Is that, you want to understand how a country works you cannot ignore the domestic distribution of power And when he said is pointed out in the wealth of nations, you want to understand England which is his concern you have to recognize that the architects of policy are merchants and manufacturers and they set policy up so that their interests are very Well dealt with even though the impact on the people of England may be grievous and of course elsewhere it’s even worse, what’s called the savage injustice of the Europeans is horrible, and it’s basically a truism, enduring truth about the power systems [Empire in india, the cost of…] There was a cost to the British Empire by the Population there and by the populations of England, who were also kind of colonized Yeah, so it’s a class war [ok] that’s it’s true, and it’s true For just about every imperial conquest, and as I say the most extreme form it’s just extermination like settler colonialism

29 thoughts on “Noam Chomsky on Colonialism

  1. Love Chomsky, a brilliant man. Me NZer, ugh! From one extreme to another we have – early white settler colonialists in Tasmania hunting down Aboriginals for literally sport, and basically exterminating Tasmanian Aboriginals. Cook came and found NZ, first landing in Gisborne, where I live. Cook had specific instructions to do no harm to any native populations he found. But what he found were savage, thieving cannibals, who actually enjoyed human flesh. (My late wife was a very high born Maori – close relative of Sir Charles Bennett, Frederick Augustus Bennett, and so on). One chief was quoted, "The taste of flesh is sweet!" Apparently fingers were the best bits. And of course we finally had the Treaty of Waitangi, which is unique in the world. Downside though? In recent decades we've had a Grievance Industry with Maori claiming even the broadcasting air waves as their own. And our shame is that Maori are over-represented in offending, and our imprisonment per capita is second only to the States. And Maori are extremely susceptible to the worst aspects of American culture. And the last 'full blood' Maori died in 1991, I believe. And NZ is not as 'clean & green' as we'd like to project. Real estate prices have gone off the scale, and NZ ain't what it used be in the fifties. It's still pretty much gun crime-free though, which compares favourably with 600 gun deaths per week in America. "How can a poor man face such times and live?" I dunno. Somehow??

  2. Very interesting talk. Although, he never mentions the Congo or refers to the Philippines as the "black sheep" of south-east Asia although there are countries in a similar economic condition (Cambodia, Laos etc.).

  3. Alfred McCoy wrote a great history book, "The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia," that investigates how the CIA got involved in the heroin trafficking during the Vietnam War.

  4. This is a tangent but I think someone should write a book about the anti-imperialist views of well known figures such as Mark Twain, Einstein, and MLK that are kept out of the classroom and mainstream thought in general. There probably is one for all I know.

  5. throughout history colonialism, slavery and racism have been embedded in all mankind. from the Egyptians to the Christians and Muslims. its part of our nature.

  6. Chinese colonialism in Tibet and Xinjiang province! Muslim colonialism in Europe!. Japanese colonialism in Asia!. chinese colonialism in Africa!. Funny he didn't mention that. Chomsky is a self loather….

  7. Next July 25th – 2017 is going to be 119 years of US invasion and occupation of Puerto Rico and I can not fucking believe that he mentions almost everybody except one of oldest colonies in the world; Puerto Rico. WTF!!?? Amazing!

  8. Just saw the "New Zealand Wars" documentary series. Very well done. Apparently, the tribes there were not so innocent in the whole thing. Some of them willingly joined the invading Brits to fight the "King Movement", a movement to unite tribes. It's not all black and white, but it's pretty dark grey, for sure.

  9. UK+US and Iran, US+UK+UAE/SA and Middle East, US and South America, UK+US+FR and Africa. Add all the corporate colonialism including all the scums "trade organization", pretending to help/invest into economies of poor countries, pushing their governments into making laws to benefit foreign businesses and foreign exploitation before giving them "loans", which in doubt, if country wants to keep own resources, will turn into real wars, after their gouvernements will be overthrown first of course…

  10. Just a thought here- is there a better practical solution to keeping crime in check other than establishing a surveillance system?

  11. There is 3 ! times as many "Indians", or native Americans alive today in what is now the USA, than it was when the first white "EVIL" men came to the "new world". Without the Europeans there would still only be 5-6 millions(often starving) of them in North America, instead of ca 18 millions today. New Zeeland, however is another example of colonialism, the Aboriginies had been living there for thousands of years until the Maories came over the ocean in canoes, About 1000 years ago….And whiped them ALL out ! The same thing has been going on as long as there has been Animals on this planet.

  12. It was known as "migration" for all of human history but weirdly it's "settler colonialism" when practiced by White people.

  13. I'm a Filipino. I can attest that the established elites created by the American imperialist during the commonwealth period was indeed harmful. It created structural problems in our country. The colonial effect affects our country up until today because the elites are still here in the form of political dynasties. Majority of our politicians are landlords and businessmen whose primary concern is not to govern but how to accumulate more wealth and power. And the propaganda worked. It was as if my fellow Filipinos doesn't care, they still keep voting these traditional politicians.

  14. Noam is awesome at moral relativism. He applies modern leftist moral standards to historical events and his opinion is therefore both slanted and useless.

  15. It is not coincidental that India is poor today , because of the genocidal policies of British Colonialism , which is never taught in history books at all !

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    Destruction" The final Fusillade by Paul Watson is the perfect Squint
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    Sea Shepherd Conservation Society is headed by Paul Watson, a
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    Reservation in South Dakota. Native leaders say they don't recall his
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  17. Jews staged a Slave Revolt and are still free: The White Man Still Hates Them, same Hatred toward Haiti, Haiti's slave revolt was 1700's But WHITE MAN Still PUNISHES Haiti and WHITE AMERICA joins eagerly to HATE Slave Revolts and Jews who Enable it.
    Jews are the Only Friend a Enslaved People have.

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