Nichols: ‘Iowa Caucuses’ Will Help Progressives Choose Between Warren, Sanders | MTP Daily | MSNBC

Nichols: ‘Iowa Caucuses’ Will Help Progressives Choose Between Warren, Sanders | MTP Daily | MSNBC


>>>IT’S LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN.>>>IT’S LIKE ELIZABETH WARREN. I DID THE POCAHONTAS THING. I DID THE POCAHONTAS THING. I HIT HER REALLY HARD, AND IT I HIT HER REALLY HARD, AND IT LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS DOWN AND LOOKED LIKE SHE WAS DOWN AND OUT. OUT. BUT THAT WAS TOO LONG AGO. BUT THAT WAS TOO LONG AGO. I SHOULD’VE WAITED. I SHOULD’VE WAITED. BUT DON’T WORRY, WE WILL REVIVE BUT DON’T WORRY, WE WILL REVIVE IT. IT. IT CAN BE REVIVED. IT CAN BE REVIVED.>>WHEN IT COMES, LIKE I SAID,>>WHEN IT COMES, LIKE I SAID, I’D ALWAYS LOVE TO PLAY POKER I’D ALWAYS LOVE TO PLAY POKER WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE HE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP BECAUSE HE DOESN’T HIDE HIS NERVOUSNESS. DOESN’T HIDE HIS NERVOUSNESS. WELCOME BACK. WELCOME BACK. PRESIDENT TRUMP RENEWED HIS PRESIDENT TRUMP RENEWED HIS ATTACKS ON ELIZABETH WARREN THIS ATTACKS ON ELIZABETH WARREN THIS WEEK INCLUDING AT HIS RALLY IN WEEK INCLUDING AT HIS RALLY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE LAST NIGHT. NEW HAMPSHIRE LAST NIGHT. BUT ABSENT FROM HIS STUMP BUT ABSENT FROM HIS STUMP SPEECH, NO MENTION OF BERNIE SPEECH, NO MENTION OF BERNIE SANDERS. SANDERS. THAT COULD BE ONE WARNING SIGNS THAT COULD BE ONE WARNING SIGNS FOR THE SANDERS’ CAMPAIGN. FOR THE SANDERS’ CAMPAIGN. AT LEAST THAT MEANS THE AT LEAST THAT MEANS THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T FEAR HIM PRESIDENT DOESN’T FEAR HIM ANYMORE. ANYMORE. JOINING ME IS JOHN NICHOLS. JOINING ME IS JOHN NICHOLS. ALWAYS HAS HIS FINGER ON THE ALWAYS HAS HIS FINGER ON THE PULSE OF THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF PULSE OF THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. JOHN ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. JOHN ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU. ELIZABETH WARREN IS HAVING A ELIZABETH WARREN IS HAVING A MOMENT. MOMENT. ELIZABETH WARREN, IT IS FUNNY TO ELIZABETH WARREN, IT IS FUNNY TO WATCH ALL MY PUNDIT FRIENDS GO, WATCH ALL MY PUNDIT FRIENDS GO, ALL RIGHT, THIS BIDEN/WARREN ALL RIGHT, THIS BIDEN/WARREN SHOWDOWN IS COMING. SHOWDOWN IS COMING. BUT THERE IS ANOTHER MEMBER OF BUT THERE IS ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF THIS THE PROGRESSIVE WING OF THIS PARTY, FRANKLY, SOME WOULD CALL PARTY, FRANKLY, SOME WOULD CALL IT THE CURRENT MEMBER OF HIS IT THE CURRENT MEMBER OF HIS ACTIVISM. ACTIVISM. CAN THEY EXIST IN THE SAME CAN THEY EXIST IN THE SAME PRIMARY AND ONE OF THEM STILL PRIMARY AND ONE OF THEM STILL WIN THIS NOMINATION? WIN THIS NOMINATION?>>NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH>>NOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH PROBABLY. PROBABLY. BUT THEY CAN EXIST FOR QUITE A BUT THEY CAN EXIST FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. LONG TIME. AND THAT’S THE SIGNIFICANT THING AND THAT’S THE SIGNIFICANT THING ABOUT THIS MOMENT. ABOUT THIS MOMENT. WHEN I JUST LOOKED AT THE POLL WHEN I JUST LOOKED AT THE POLL YOU HAD, AND AT SOME OF THE YOU HAD, AND AT SOME OF THE OTHER RECENT POLLS, IT’S OTHER RECENT POLLS, IT’S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS ABOUT 20 OR 25% OF THERE IS ABOUT 20 OR 25% OF PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THEY ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING THEY ARE WITH CANDIDATES OTHER THAN WITH CANDIDATES OTHER THAN BIDEN, SANDERS, AND WARREN. BIDEN, SANDERS, AND WARREN. SO, THE THING TO RECOGNIZE HERE SO, THE THING TO RECOGNIZE HERE IS THAT SANDERS AND WARREN HAVE IS THAT SANDERS AND WARREN HAVE A LOT OF TERRITORY WHERE THEY A LOT OF TERRITORY WHERE THEY CAN STILL PICK UP SUPPORT AND CAN STILL PICK UP SUPPORT AND KIND OF ESTABLISH A POSITION KIND OF ESTABLISH A POSITION BEFORE THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BEFORE THEY HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT GOING AFTER EACH OTHER. GOING AFTER EACH OTHER. NOW THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT NOW THAT DOESN’T MEAN THAT SANDERS DOESN’T WORRY ABOUT IT. SANDERS DOESN’T WORRY ABOUT IT. HE SHOULD. HE SHOULD. BUT THIS THING IS — I DON’T BUT THIS THING IS — I DON’T THINK GETTING QUITE TO THE POINT THINK GETTING QUITE TO THE POINT WHERE YOU’RE GOING TO SEE WHERE YOU’RE GOING TO SEE SANDERS AND WARREN GOING AT EACH SANDERS AND WARREN GOING AT EACH OTHER. OTHER.>>WELL, IN FACT THEY HAVE THIS>>WELL, IN FACT THEY HAVE THIS NONAGGRESSION PACT. NONAGGRESSION PACT. THE CONCERN THAT I’VE HEARD FROM THE CONCERN THAT I’VE HEARD FROM SOME THAT IT’LL BE THE SOME THAT IT’LL BE THE SUPPORTERS THAT START THIS FIGHT SUPPORTERS THAT START THIS FIGHT FIRST AND THAT WILL MAKE IT VERY FIRST AND THAT WILL MAKE IT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE CAMPAIGN. UNCOMFORTABLE FOR THE CAMPAIGN. AND IT’LL ACTUALLY CREATE THE AND IT’LL ACTUALLY CREATE THE TENSION WILL GO FROM THE GROUND TENSION WILL GO FROM THE GROUND UP. UP.>>CHUCK, HAVE YOU BEEN ON>>CHUCK, HAVE YOU BEEN ON TWITTER RECENTLY? TWITTER RECENTLY?>>ACTUALLY, I DON’T THESE DAYS.>>ACTUALLY, I DON’T THESE DAYS. [ LAUGHTER ] [ LAUGHTER ]>>THE FACT IS IT’S ALREADY>>THE FACT IS IT’S ALREADY THERE. THERE.>>I KNOW.>>I KNOW.>>YOU DO SEE PEOPLE PUSHING AND>>YOU DO SEE PEOPLE PUSHING AND PULLING. PULLING. AND OF COURSE THAT IS A REALITY. AND OF COURSE THAT IS A REALITY. BUT HERE’S WHERE IT GETS BUT HERE’S WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING. INTERESTING. WARREN AND SANDERS HAD SUCH A WARREN AND SANDERS HAD SUCH A SUCCESSFUL DEBATE IN THAT SECOND SUCCESSFUL DEBATE IN THAT SECOND ROUND OF DEBATES. ROUND OF DEBATES. IT WORKED VERY, VERY WELL FOR IT WORKED VERY, VERY WELL FOR BOTH OF THEM. BOTH OF THEM.>>WELL, THEY TEAMED UP, RIGHT.>>WELL, THEY TEAMED UP, RIGHT. THEY WERE A TAG TEAM THERE. THEY WERE A TAG TEAM THERE.>>AND THE FACT IS THAT THEY>>AND THE FACT IS THAT THEY BOTH KNOW, AND I’VE BEEN AROUND BOTH KNOW, AND I’VE BEEN AROUND THEIR CAMPAIGNS. THEIR CAMPAIGNS. THEY BOTH KNOW THAT IF ONE OF THEY BOTH KNOW THAT IF ONE OF THEM IS SEEN AS GOING AFTER THE THEM IS SEEN AS GOING AFTER THE OTHER, THAT’S A BAD THING. OTHER, THAT’S A BAD THING. NOW, YOU ARE WISE ENOUGH TO NOW, YOU ARE WISE ENOUGH TO POINT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE POINT TO WHERE, YOU KNOW, WHERE THIS THING HAS TO SORT OUT. THIS THING HAS TO SORT OUT. HERE I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU, HERE I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU, CHUCK, IS THE GENIUS OF THE IOWA CHUCK, IS THE GENIUS OF THE IOWA CAUCUSES BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET CAUCUSES BECAUSE WHEN YOU GET INTO THOSE IOWA CAUCUSES, YOU INTO THOSE IOWA CAUCUSES, YOU COME IN AND YOU SORT OF LOOK COME IN AND YOU SORT OF LOOK AROUND, YOU REGISTER YOU’RE WITH AROUND, YOU REGISTER YOU’RE WITH ONE CANDIDATE OR ANOTHER, AND ONE CANDIDATE OR ANOTHER, AND YOU SEE IF YOU’VE GOT CRITICAL YOU SEE IF YOU’VE GOT CRITICAL MASS. MASS. AND THE FACT IS THAT THE REALITY AND THE FACT IS THAT THE REALITY OF WARREN AND SANDERS MAKES IOWA OF WARREN AND SANDERS MAKES IOWA EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN IT EVER EVEN MORE IMPORTANT THAN IT EVER HAS BEEN. HAS BEEN.>>OH –>>OH –>>BECAUSE TO GET TO THAT>>BECAUSE TO GET TO THAT THRESHOLD. THRESHOLD.>>NO, I TOTALLY AGREE.>>NO, I TOTALLY AGREE. AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY’RE AND MORE IMPORTANTLY THEY’RE BOTH NEIGHBORING NEW HAMPSHIRE BOTH NEIGHBORING NEW HAMPSHIRE STATES. STATES. I THINK WE BOTH KNOW WHERE THIS I THINK WE BOTH KNOW WHERE THIS IS HEADED. IS HEADED. IT’S SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WHOEVER IT’S SORT OF LIKE, OKAY, WHOEVER FINISHES SECOND AMONG THOSE TWO FINISHES SECOND AMONG THOSE TWO IN IOWA SUDDENLY IF YOU DON’T IN IOWA SUDDENLY IF YOU DON’T WIN NEW HAMPSHIRE NOW, YOU’RE WIN NEW HAMPSHIRE NOW, YOU’RE DONE. DONE. DO YOU BUY INTO THAT? DO YOU BUY INTO THAT?>>WELL, I THINK IT’S EVEN MORE>>WELL, I THINK IT’S EVEN MORE THAN THAT. THAN THAT. NOT ONLY DO I BUY INTO THAT. NOT ONLY DO I BUY INTO THAT. I THINK THIS IS WHERE IOWA I THINK THIS IS WHERE IOWA BECOMES SUCH A BIG DEAL BECAUSE BECOMES SUCH A BIG DEAL BECAUSE IOWA SENDS A MESSAGE. IOWA SENDS A MESSAGE. OKAY, THERE’S ONE CANDIDATE HERE OKAY, THERE’S ONE CANDIDATE HERE WHO’S GOT A REAL CHANCE TO GET WHO’S GOT A REAL CHANCE TO GET THE NOMINATION IF SOMEBODY COMES THE NOMINATION IF SOMEBODY COMES OUT CLEARLY AHEAD IN IOWA. OUT CLEARLY AHEAD IN IOWA.>>SURE.>>SURE.>>AND THEN THAT HAS A HUGE>>AND THEN THAT HAS A HUGE IMPACT ON NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND IMPACT ON NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND FRANKLY GOING FORWARD. FRANKLY GOING FORWARD. THERE’S ONE OTHER ELEMENT THOUGH THERE’S ONE OTHER ELEMENT THOUGH I’D THROW INTO THE MIX HERE. I’D THROW INTO THE MIX HERE. AND THIS IS WORTH NOTING. AND THIS IS WORTH NOTING. AND THAT IS AMONG ALL OF THOSE AND THAT IS AMONG ALL OF THOSE OTHER CANDIDATES, MANY OF THEM OTHER CANDIDATES, MANY OF THEM HAVE POSITIONED AS PROGRESSIVES. HAVE POSITIONED AS PROGRESSIVES. AND AS THEY DON’T GET POSITIONS AND AS THEY DON’T GET POSITIONS IN THE DEBATES AS THEY BEGIN TO IN THE DEBATES AS THEY BEGIN TO FADE AS SOME OF THEM WILL, FADE AS SOME OF THEM WILL, THERE’S A REAL COMPETITION WHERE THERE’S A REAL COMPETITION WHERE THEIR SUPPORTERS GO. THEIR SUPPORTERS GO. AND FINALLY IF BIDEN FADES, AND FINALLY IF BIDEN FADES, REMEMBER, HIS SUPPORTERS A LOT REMEMBER, HIS SUPPORTERS A LOT OF THEM, THEIR SECOND CHOICE IS OF THEM, THEIR SECOND CHOICE IS BERNIE SANDERS. BERNIE SANDERS.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. THEY’RE IDEALOGICALLY MORE THEY’RE IDEALOGICALLY MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN THEY ARE. PROGRESSIVE THAN THEY ARE. THEY’RE IN THE WIN-FIRST THEY’RE IN THE WIN-FIRST MENTALITY. MENTALITY. AND I BELIEVE THAT BIDEN IS AND I BELIEVE THAT BIDEN IS THAT. THAT. AND IT GETS TO THE SECOND PART AND IT GETS TO THE SECOND PART OF THE QUESTION, WHICH IS OF THE QUESTION, WHICH IS ULTIMATELY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ULTIMATELY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT FOR WARREN AND SANDERS, ONE OF FOR WARREN AND SANDERS, ONE OF THEM HAS TO SUCCESSFULLY MAKE AN THEM HAS TO SUCCESSFULLY MAKE AN ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT TO ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT TO ULTIMATELY BECOME THE ULTIMATELY BECOME THE PROGRESSIVE CHAMPION? PROGRESSIVE CHAMPION?>>NOT ONLY DO I BELIEVE THAT IS>>NOT ONLY DO I BELIEVE THAT IS THE CASE, I BELIEVE THAT THAT’S THE CASE, I BELIEVE THAT THAT’S WHERE THIS THING IS GOING. WHERE THIS THING IS GOING. I DON’T THINK YOU’RE GOING TO I DON’T THINK YOU’RE GOING TO SEE BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH SEE BERNIE SANDERS AND ELIZABETH WARREN ATTACKING EACH OTHER. WARREN ATTACKING EACH OTHER. I DO THINK THAT THEIR STRATEGY I DO THINK THAT THEIR STRATEGY WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH HEAVY-DUTY MESSAGE ON HEAVY-DUTY MESSAGE ON ELECTABILITY WHO CAN WIN. ELECTABILITY WHO CAN WIN. I EXPECT THAT YOU MAY SEE THAT I EXPECT THAT YOU MAY SEE THAT RARE AD. RARE AD. IT DOESN’T HAPPY VERY OFTEN IN IT DOESN’T HAPPY VERY OFTEN IN POLITICS BUT THE RARE AD IN THE POLITICS BUT THE RARE AD IN THE MAIL AND TV THAT SAYS HERE IS A MAIL AND TV THAT SAYS HERE IS A BUNCH OF POLLING, HERE IS A BUNCH OF POLLING, HERE IS A BUNCH OF INFORMATION THAT TELLS BUNCH OF INFORMATION THAT TELLS YOU THIS IS THE ONE WHO CAN DO YOU THIS IS THE ONE WHO CAN DO IT. IT. AND I THINK THAT’S ACTUALLY HOW AND I THINK THAT’S ACTUALLY HOW THEY GO AT EACH OTHER ON AN THEY GO AT EACH OTHER ON AN ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT. ELECTABILITY ARGUMENT.>>LET’S TALK ABOUT BERNIE>>LET’S TALK ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS. SANDERS. THERE IS THIS PERCEPTION AMONG THERE IS THIS PERCEPTION AMONG PEOPLE THAT HAVE RUN RACES PEOPLE THAT HAVE RUN RACES AGAINST HIM INCLUDING PEOPLE AGAINST HIM INCLUDING PEOPLE THAT HAVE WORKED FOR HIM. THAT HAVE WORKED FOR HIM. I HAVE HEARD THIS A BUNCH OF I HAVE HEARD THIS A BUNCH OF TIMES WHETHER THEY’RE SANDERS TIMES WHETHER THEY’RE SANDERS LOVERS OR SANDERS SCEPTICS AND LOVERS OR SANDERS SCEPTICS AND THEY SAY ONE THING YOU NEED TO THEY SAY ONE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS, HE KNOW ABOUT BERNIE SANDERS, HE NEVER QUITS. NEVER QUITS. BUT ANOTHER THING YOU NEED TO BUT ANOTHER THING YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS BERNIE NEVER UNDERSTAND IS BERNIE NEVER QUITS. QUITS. HE’LL NEVER GET OUT OF THIS HE’LL NEVER GET OUT OF THIS THING. THING. DO YOU BUY THAT ARGUMENT THAT IF DO YOU BUY THAT ARGUMENT THAT IF BERNIE SANDERS IF HE — DO YOU BERNIE SANDERS IF HE — DO YOU REALLY THINK HE WOULD SOMEHOW BE REALLY THINK HE WOULD SOMEHOW BE THE PERSON THAT DENIED WARREN AN THE PERSON THAT DENIED WARREN AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE NOMINEE? OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE NOMINEE?>>NO, I DON’T.>>NO, I DON’T. BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH THAT POINT BUT I ALSO AGREE WITH THAT POINT THAT HE DOESN’T QUIT. THAT HE DOESN’T QUIT. SO THIS IS WHERE IT GETS SO THIS IS WHERE IT GETS COMPLICATED. COMPLICATED. BERNIE SANDERS GOT INTO THIS BERNIE SANDERS GOT INTO THIS THING BACK — REMEMBER, IN 2015 THING BACK — REMEMBER, IN 2015 LONG AGO WHEN NOBODY ELSE WANTED LONG AGO WHEN NOBODY ELSE WANTED TO MAKE A RUN OR VERY FEW PEOPLE TO MAKE A RUN OR VERY FEW PEOPLE DID. DID. AND HE GOT INTO IT WITH AN IDEA AND HE GOT INTO IT WITH AN IDEA OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, RAISING THE OF REALLY, YOU KNOW, RAISING THE PROGRESSIVE FLAG. PROGRESSIVE FLAG. IT WENT BETTER I THINK THAN HE IT WENT BETTER I THINK THAN HE EXPECTED. EXPECTED. AND SO NOT ONLY DID HE RAISE THE AND SO NOT ONLY DID HE RAISE THE PROGRESSIVE FLAG, HE BECAME A PROGRESSIVE FLAG, HE BECAME A VERY VIABLE NATIONAL CONTENDER VERY VIABLE NATIONAL CONTENDER HIMSELF. HIMSELF.>>IT’S GOING TO BE HARD FOR HIM>>IT’S GOING TO BE HARD FOR HIM TO GIVE IT UP, THOUGH. TO GIVE IT UP, THOUGH. I CREATED THIS. I CREATED THIS. I MADE THE ROOM FOR YOU, I MADE THE ROOM FOR YOU, ELIZABETH WARREN. ELIZABETH WARREN. AND NOW I’M SUPPOSED TO HAND YOU AND NOW I’M SUPPOSED TO HAND YOU THE FLAG. THE FLAG. THAT’S GOING TO BE HARD TO HAND, THAT’S GOING TO BE HARD TO HAND, RIGHT? RIGHT?>>IT’S HARD FOR ANYBODY TO DO>>IT’S HARD FOR ANYBODY TO DO THAT IN POLITICS. THAT IN POLITICS. BUT DO UNDERSTAND I INTERVIEWED BUT DO UNDERSTAND I INTERVIEWED BERNIE SANDERS JUST THE OTHER BERNIE SANDERS JUST THE OTHER DAY OR WAS TALKING TO HIM ABOUT DAY OR WAS TALKING TO HIM ABOUT A LOT OF POLITICAL HISTORY AND A LOT OF POLITICAL HISTORY AND STUFF OF THIS NATURE. STUFF OF THIS NATURE. AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT AND THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT IT IS HE IS SO HARDWIRED INTO IT IS HE IS SO HARDWIRED INTO THIS IDEA OF ADVANCING THE THIS IDEA OF ADVANCING THE PROGRESSIVE CAUSE OF REALLY — PROGRESSIVE CAUSE OF REALLY –>>THE MOVEMENT, YEP.>>THE MOVEMENT, YEP.>>YEAH, THE MOVEMENT MATTERS.>>YEAH, THE MOVEMENT MATTERS. SO I THINK IF YOU GOT TO THAT SO I THINK IF YOU GOT TO THAT POINT OF ELECTABILITY, MY SENSE POINT OF ELECTABILITY, MY SENSE IS THAT THE MOVEMENT WOULD BE IS THAT THE MOVEMENT WOULD BE VERY VIABLE. VERY VIABLE. BUT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE BUT I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE IN THIS CONVERSATION BE VERY IN THIS CONVERSATION BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT ASSUMING THAT IT’S CAREFUL ABOUT ASSUMING THAT IT’S NECESSARILY GOING TO BE SANDERS NECESSARILY GOING TO BE SANDERS WHO HAS TO MAKE THOSE TOUGH WHO HAS TO MAKE THOSE TOUGH CHOICES. CHOICES.>>LOOK, I’M WITH YOU.>>LOOK, I’M WITH YOU. ELIZABETH WARREN — THAT’S ELIZABETH WARREN — THAT’S RIGHT, AND ELIZABETH WARREN IN RIGHT, AND ELIZABETH WARREN IN FAIRNESS, SHE HASN’T HAD HER FAIRNESS, SHE HASN’T HAD HER TIME IN THE BARREL AS A TIME IN THE BARREL AS A CANDIDATE YET. CANDIDATE YET. IN THE PRE-SEASON SHE DID. IN THE PRE-SEASON SHE DID. BUT NOT AS A CANDIDATE. BUT NOT AS A CANDIDATE. SO WE DON’T KNOW WHAT SHE’S SO WE DON’T KNOW WHAT SHE’S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER THAT. GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER THAT.>>WELL, THEY ARE BOTH REALLY –>>WELL, THEY ARE BOTH REALLY — I’VE SEEN THEM BOTH IN THE LAST I’VE SEEN THEM BOTH IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. FEW DAYS. THEY ARE BOTH VERY ON MESSAGE. THEY ARE BOTH VERY ON MESSAGE. THEY’RE REALLY AT THE PEAK OF THEY’RE REALLY AT THE PEAK OF THEIR GAME. THEIR GAME. AND SO, AGAIN, THIS IS A AND SO, AGAIN, THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN GO FOR SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN GO FOR QUITE A WHILE AT THE PEAK OF QUITE A WHILE AT THE PEAK OF THEIR GAME WITHOUT REALLY THEIR GAME WITHOUT REALLY POINTING AT EACH OTHER. POINTING AT EACH OTHER. AT SOME POINT, THOUGH, YOU’RE AT SOME POINT, THOUGH, YOU’RE RIGHT. RIGHT. THERE HAS TO BE A SORTING OUT IF THERE HAS TO BE A SORTING OUT IF YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE A YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE A PROGRESSIVE NOMINEE. PROGRESSIVE NOMINEE. JOHN NICHOLS, LIKE I SAID, I JOHN NICHOLS, LIKE I SAID, I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANYBODY DON’T THINK THERE’S ANYBODY BETTER ON THE PROGRESSIVE BETTER ON THE PROGRESSIVE POLITICS OF THIS COUNTRY AND

100 thoughts on “Nichols: ‘Iowa Caucuses’ Will Help Progressives Choose Between Warren, Sanders | MTP Daily | MSNBC

  1. Warren’s foreign policy positions are troubling. To me, Bernie’s focus on foreign policy puts him on top. Not to mention his dedication to his policies and principles for more than 40 years.

  2. Elizabeth Warren is establishment whether people want to see it or not.
    Also, Bernie is still rising in the polls.

  3. I have a hard time watching chuckie toad, but John Nichols made it worth it. These corporate tools are always trying to find something negative to say about BERNIE, but don't bring up that BERNIE always outperforms the polls. Reference the nyt donors map and you have to wonder why these questions are being asked. BERNIE 2020.

  4. If the title of this clip had said that Chuck Todd was the presenter, I would not have clicked it. Todd has made a very failing career of trying to bash Bernie.

  5. A few big differences between Warren & Bernie:

    Bernie
    has been committed to Medicare for All from the beginning. Warren
    only recently declared she is fully supportive of Medicare for all.

    Unlike
    Warren, Bernie is committed to small donor fundraising even in the
    General election. Warren has said she would only do small donor
    fundraising in the Primary, so Bernie won't feel any sort of pressure to
    bend on his policy stances once elected.

    She originally planned on voting for Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing, but then flip flopped when she was criticized.

    Warren
    worked to repeal the 'Medical Device Tax' which helped fund the ACA,
    in order to appease the Medical Device Industry in her state.

    Unlike
    Warren, Bernie has a long history of progressivism dating back to the
    60s. Warren was a staunch Republican up until the late 90s.

    Bernie
    has also been one of the longest serving members of congress, he was a
    mayor in Vermont, and has a lot of experience in governance compared
    to Warren.

    Warren's
    plan to fund her policies through a wealth tax is potentially
    unconstitutional, therefore harder to implement than Bernie's Wall
    Street speculation tax and higher income taxes on wealthy entities.

    Warren voted twice
    to increase the Military budget brought forth under Pres. Trump,
    which appropriated over $81Billion for purchase of Aircraft, Weapons,
    Missiles, and Combat Vehicles. On top of that it appropriated several
    Billion dollars toward other parts of the DoD.

    Bernie
    wants to cancel all student debt, Warren wants to implement a
    means-tested solution. A Means-tested program will likely further split
    people into the "haves" vs. "have-nots" and are easier to attack,
    dismantle, and weaken.

    There
    is also a more nuanced distinction between them I'd like to make,
    with all the political differences aside. The one area I think Bernie
    absolutely dominates where Warren doesn't, is with rhetoric.
    They both are offering tons of plans, but to me Bernie is the only
    candidate with a strong message of how it will all be executed. If you
    want to implement even a fraction of either Warren's or Bernie's plans
    you need a radical change in voter engagement in this country, and I
    have never seen a
    politician who can rally young people and apathetic people into the
    political process as well as Bernie has. In 2015 he was nothing but a
    small Independent Senator from Vermont, and he went on to win 23
    contests against the establishment backed former First Lady, Secretary
    of State, and Senator of New York. Now he is arguably one of the most
    popular politicians in America, and he has changed the political
    rhetoric among leading Democrats. Just look at the incredibly
    influential organizations that stemmed out of his 2016 campaign:

    Justice Democrats

    Brand New Congress

    Our Revolution

  6. What's also interesting about this video is that Chuck Todd is not poo-poohing the idea of a Sanders presidency anymore. The corporate media is starting to grind its teeth and accept a possible Sanders' nomination. My hunch is that the Joy Reids, Neera Tandens, and Jennifer Rubins are going to start tempering their criticisms. In other words, less "Bernie has a problem with black women," and more, "If single-payer health insurance is passed in 2021, what will happen to the pharmaceutical ads on this station, and will it affect my salary?"

  7. Your bias is showing. Why would he give it up, he’s going to win unless the DNC and corporate media cheats him again like last election

  8. My hope is that Sanders and Warren become President and Vice President with a Progressive agenda, and in that the “top” job is unimportant. Getting to that position is. As you say electability is. Also though it is vital that Moscow Mitch hits the ditch.

  9. Poco or Al Zheimers? That's your choice, Iowa? The Commiecrats should change from blue to red, because they are the Reds.

  10. If they compete, "STOP THE INFIGHTING!!!"
    If they just run their campaign and don't diss anyone, "THEY'RE TEAMING UP!! THIS CAN'T GO ON TOO LONG!!!"
    Chuck Todd is a corporate mouthpiece.

  11. The gift that keeps on giving from liberals. Showing how disgusting and mentally ill they are. Thanks MSNBC, are school board has banned you. We all support 🇺🇸 USA President. MAGA

  12. I'm eager to see if Bernie will bring up the fact that Warren claimed to only accept grassroots small donor contributions, yet she's having fundraisers where people can donate $10K, $50K up to $175K from wealthy corporate donors.

  13. Losing one senator from republican governed states will be hard, but losing two is too high a price.

     It cant be both Warren and Sanders, and tactically speaking, Sanders is a safer bet because Charlie Baker will still be governor of MA in 2021 while Vermont might have a democrat there.

    We dont even know if someone like Biden or Buttigieg will win.

  14. There is Bernie!!!! Thanks Chuck. Good segment! I'll just add, we need more Bernie & Warren and much less liar-in-chief Trump.

  15. A few big differences between Warren & Bernie:

    Bernie has been committed to Medicare for All from the beginning.
    Warren only recently declared she is fully supportive of Medicare for all. her answer to NYT has put big question mark over all her claims on medicare for all : https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/us/politics/2020-candidate-interviews.html

    Bernie sanders is very strong on israel and use aid as leverage to make them sign peace instead of taking US to start new wars
    Warren is very weak on israel, watch same like above, her response on Israel was disgusting

    Unlike Warren, Bernie is committed to small donor fundraising even in the General election.
    Warren has said she would only do small donor fundraising in the Primary, so Bernie won't feel any sort of pressure to bend on his policy stances once elected.

    Bernie has army bigger than US military (2 millions Volunteer ) which are united and get together for any purposes to let him push his policy.
    Warren does not have the left support as Bernie has, so she may face issue pursuing her agenda after getting to power.

    Third concern, I feel in debates, Warren will be crashed by Donald, you know the guy has no principles

    She originally planned on voting for Ben Carson as Secretary of Housing, but then flip flopped when she was criticized.

    Warren is progressive with playing lots of dirty politics, , I do not consider her as honest person.Her biggest problem to me is her general trait of playing politics as she did in 2016 by supporting Hillary. what sets her apart from Bernie is her lack of support and playing politics.

    Warren worked to repeal the 'Medical Device Tax' which helped fund the ACA, in order to appease the Medical Device Industry in her state.

    Unlike Warren, Bernie has a long history of progressivism dating back to the 60s.
    Warren was a staunch Republican up until the late 90s.

    Bernie has also been one of the longest serving members of congress, he was a mayor in Vermont, and has a lot of experience in governance compared to Warren.

    Warren's plan to fund her policies through a wealth tax is potentially unconstitutional, therefore harder to implement than Bernie's Wall Street speculation tax and higher income taxes on wealthy entities.

    Warren voted twice to increase the Military budget brought forth under Pres. Trump, which appropriated over $81Billion for purchase of Aircraft, Weapons, Missiles, and Combat Vehicles. On top of that it appropriated several Billion dollars toward other parts of the DoD.

    Bernie wants to cancel all student debt,
    Warren wants to implement a means-tested solution. A Means-tested program will likely further split people into the "haves" vs. "have-nots" and are easier to attack, dismantle, and weaken.

    There is also a more nuanced distinction between them I'd like to make, with all the political differences aside. The one area I think Bernie absolutely dominates where Warren doesn't, is with rhetoric. They both are offering tons of plans, but to me Bernie is the only candidate with a strong message of how it will all be executed. If you want to implement even a fraction of either Warren's or Bernie's plans you need a radical change in voter engagement in this country, and I have never seen a politician who can rally young people and apathetic people into the political process as well as Bernie has. In 2015 he was nothing but a small Independent Senator from Vermont, and he went on to win 23 contests against the establishment backed former First Lady, Secretary of State, and Senator of New York. Now he is arguably one of the most popular politicians in America, and he has changed the political rhetoric among leading Democrats. Just look at the incredibly influential organizations that stemmed out of his 2016 campaign:

    Justice Democrats

    Brand New Congress

    Our Revolution

  16. Also Another important question, why there is no Warren supporters watch or comment on youtuve but all top comments belong to Bernie's supporters. is not it weird ?

  17. Your brain tells you that the President isn’t picking on Bernie cause he doesn’t fear him??? Trump just said his strategy is to wait. Trump is afraid of Bernie and knows he’ll need to hit hard later. MSNBC you’re constantly belittling Bernie despite the facts before you

  18. @0:36 is the proof the media makes these jabs at Bernie. Why do they need to plant that kind of negativity in ppls heads without any evidence.

  19. Why do “progressive” , Dems, call themselves progressive when they are really socialists? They also have nothing to do with progress.

  20. chuck is such a hack for the establishment. all his questions imply a Warren/Biden rivalry. at least his interviewee did not bite. Bernie will be the victor in the end.

  21. Bull#$&@ Chuck . You know how Bernie doesn't quit. He lost the primary in 2016. Hillary lost the general. Bernie did Town Halls for his agenda in deep red States and introduced Medical for all.
    He doesn't quit because he always strives for the agenda.
    He doesn't quit because he doesn't say that was my turn so no more working for minimum wage, free college, free health care, green new deal, anti war propaganda etc. He fought for is as a candidate to get into Hillary's plan. He fought for it as a senator. He fights for it still. Fingers crossed he will do it as the 46th. But I know if he doesn't become one he will still fight for it. That's how he doesn't quit. #FeelTheBern #Hindsight2020 #HeWroteTheDamnBill

  22. It's like Harry Porter Chuck, Trump fears Bernie so much he can't say his name. MSDNC would know that considering they employ the same tactics!

  23. Warren and Sanders should join forces and run as a team. one or the other will have to give way on being on the top of the ticket. They would be a formidable team if they ran together.

  24. Millionaire Warren is only there to take votes away from Bernie so Corporate Biden wins. He has no chance against Trump of course.

  25. Warren supports Military Military Industrial complex and endorsed Hillary Clinton. So it is doubtful that she would do what she says. she can be another Obama, who would like to become a president to gain fortune and fame.

  26. The Oligarchs and Corporatist those that own the mass media will spend billons against Bernie. They know Bernie is educating the working citizens. They know they have a favored position. They will promote their propaganda and lie to keep the working citizens from getting universal healthcare.

  27. Why is this host automatically assuming warren is going to outdo bernie in his analysis Jesus Christ. “ I made it passing the flag” aren’t you jumping the gun? Seem alittle skittish their in your seat buddy. The media is scared shitless of a bernie nominee

  28. Biden is an old ignorant, almost embarrassing (not as 45 but still a weirdo) who only polls high because the stupid mass knows him in a picture with Obama that's it..

  29. Any combination of Sanders, Warren, Gabbard, Yang, Booker and Castro would do the trick. The DNC needs to wake up. Why would Bernie want to quit? He's leading. And besides, it's the movement that matters.

  30. Spoiler alert, they're running on the same ticket & Marianne Williamson is gonna be the Sec of state, Yang is running the Treasury, Kamala is AG…I think Cornel West was the Senate majority, but it went to commercial

  31. Silly MSNBC. You think a political candidate campaign is the same thing as a mass political revolution. Anyone dumb enough to buy into this false equivalency deserves the cold shock they get when they don't see the inevitable coming. Everyone knows your agenda and no one is buying this "Oh gee, Warren and Sanders are allllmost identical but what people really want is Warren who will move the same pieces around the same neoliberalism chessboard while pretending to be progressive- HOW WILL THE PEOPLE DECIDE??" Millions of dollars to pay these anchors to spew propaganda which could go to support REAL journalism. Go home, Chuck. You're drunk.
    BETTER reporting on this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5LH_c4QaXo

  32. i want bernie because bernie never quits. he has always been for regular people, he will continue to fight for regular people.

  33. The first book I ever read as a child was Pinocciho. Fifty years later I am watching him on TV as he is the American president.

  34. Trump, you’re a weak coward and Elizabeth would leave you speechless because she’s an intelligent human being.

  35. I don't recall Bernie ever having to apologize for anything. His policies have been his beliefs for the past 30 years. They don't change. Warren used to be a republican. Bernie/Tulsi !!

  36. Im a Bernie and Warren supporter, donate to both their campaigns, want Tulsi as VP. Exited to have theses two candidates 💙❤️💙❤️💙

  37. Sanders and Warren are hitting different demographics and expanding the progressive voter base. They are not cannibalizing each other. Whoever wins will make the other the running mate.

  38. Trump is a bully.
    Bullies attack weaker people.
    They avoid stronger people.
    Trump is avoiding Bernie Sanders.
    Trump is terrified of Bernie Sanders.

    VOTE! Bernie Sanders 2020
    Do the decent thing, for once…please.

  39. Once again, I feel that Chuck Todd doesn't get it. Don't let the CNN/MSNBC pundits tell you that Warren is "more electable" than Sanders. The elites like her better, because she is more compromising. Bernie will hold his values front and center always, for the people. Elizabeth, she will be more inclined to accept watered-down agreements. Of course I appreciate what she says. But what will she do?

  40. Sanders and Warren should not be on the Democrat ticket. They are not a Democrat, they are a socialist Sanders even ran as an Independent and was elected. He knows he is not a Democrat. The problem is the ignorance of their followers which believe a Democratic Socialist is a Democrat that leans socialist. Well for the uneducated masses, let me clarify.
    A "Democratic Socialist" is a Socialist that believes in a Democracy based government. You are not a Democrat but are leeching off of the Democrat party. Get the f__k out because you don't belong.

  41. Bernie doesn’t care if he’s President! He only cares about what’s best for ordinary Americans! He would take VP if he thought he could help Americans! This is what makes me laugh at Chuck Todd or anybody else who tries to label him or paint him in dim light. When you care about others more than yourself is the quality of a GREAT LEADER!

  42. Bernie with Warren as VP and humanity might yet be saved from extinction. Last chance tho. 4 more years of Trump and human's history book will end with "and then the United States of America killed the world – the end".

  43. Chuck tried his hardest to be condescending to Sanders and this guy basically told him, not so fast, buddy!! I like this guy! Finally MSNBC has someone on that is unbiased.

  44. Bernie is 100% progressive & Warren is 70% progressive (she says she will take corporate money if nominated, boo). This makes Bernie the ONLY choice❣

  45. MSNBC are really out of touch with the American people..always so snarky about having a real progressive to win the nomination…they were wrong about Hillary beating Trump and they are wrong now

  46. By that logic, trump was “afraid” of “low energy” Jeb and “little” Marco as well, but oh wait. He doesn’t make fun of Bernie because he fears Bernie.

  47. Bernie Sanders 2020!!!
    Bernie has been in the forefront talking about these progressive values for decades now. He just didn't come up with these values in 2015, but since he ran in the last election, these values have become mainstream, thanks to Senator Sanders. There are a lot of videos on YouTube as proof. He has stood up for civil rights and people's rights since his college days in Chicago. Bernie is the true fighter and champion of the people!!!

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