Jeh Johnson Has Message For All Dems On Immigration | Morning Joe | MSNBC

Jeh Johnson Has Message For All Dems On Immigration | Morning Joe | MSNBC


UNDERSTAND IT, WE’RE GOING TO BE BLIND. BLIND.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING ON THIS MORNING. ON THIS MORNING. WILLIE. WILLIE.>>JOINING US HERE IN NEW YORK,>>JOINING US HERE IN NEW YORK, FORMER SECRETARY OF HOMELAND FORMER SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA, SECURITY UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA, JEH JOHNSON. JEH JOHNSON. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING.>>THANKS FOR HAVING ME.>>THANKS FOR HAVING ME.>>WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT>>WE WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE 18th ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11, THE 18th ANNIVERSARY OF 9/11, AND ALSO GET YOU IN ON SOME OF AND ALSO GET YOU IN ON SOME OF THE MATTERS OF THE DAY, SOME OF THE MATTERS OF THE DAY, SOME OF THE NEWS OUT THERE INCLUDING A THE NEWS OUT THERE INCLUDING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL FIELD. DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL FIELD. THERE’S ANOTHER DEBATE TOMORROW THERE’S ANOTHER DEBATE TOMORROW NIGHT. NIGHT. AFTER THE FIRST DEBATE IN MIAMI AFTER THE FIRST DEBATE IN MIAMI BACK IN JULY, YOU WROTE A COLUMN BACK IN JULY, YOU WROTE A COLUMN IN “THE WASHINGTON POST” IN “THE WASHINGTON POST” EXPRESSING SOME FRUSTRATION WITH EXPRESSING SOME FRUSTRATION WITH WHAT YOU SAW ON THE STAGE THAT WHAT YOU SAW ON THE STAGE THAT NIGHT AROUND THE CONVERSATION NIGHT AROUND THE CONVERSATION ABOUT IMMIGRATION, AND THAT ABOUT IMMIGRATION, AND THAT INCLUDED SOME OF THE CANDIDATES INCLUDED SOME OF THE CANDIDATES ON STAGE SAYING IT SHOULD NOT BE ON STAGE SAYING IT SHOULD NOT BE A CRIME TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY A CRIME TO COME TO THIS COUNTRY ILLEGALLY, THAT YOU SHOULD BE ILLEGALLY, THAT YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO STAY. ALLOWED TO STAY. WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO WHAT IS YOUR MESSAGE TO DEMOCRATS AS THEY TAKE THE STAGE DEMOCRATS AS THEY TAKE THE STAGE AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT ON ISSUES AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT ON ISSUES LIKE IMMIGRATION? LIKE IMMIGRATION?>>ALL RIGHT WELL, FIRST OF ALL,>>ALL RIGHT WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THAT “WASHINGTON POST” OP-ED WAS THAT “WASHINGTON POST” OP-ED WAS PROBABLY VERSION TWO. PROBABLY VERSION TWO. VERSION ONE WAS A LITTLE MORE VERSION ONE WAS A LITTLE MORE ANIMATED. ANIMATED.>>SO WHAT WAS YOUR FRUSTRATION?>>SO WHAT WAS YOUR FRUSTRATION?>>LOOK, MOST AMERICANS WANT TO>>LOOK, MOST AMERICANS WANT TO BE FAIR AND TREAT IN A HUMANE BE FAIR AND TREAT IN A HUMANE WAY THOSE WHO HAVE MIGRATED HERE WAY THOSE WHO HAVE MIGRATED HERE WHO ARE DESPERATE, WHO ARE WHO ARE DESPERATE, WHO ARE FLEEING REALLY BAD CONDITIONS. FLEEING REALLY BAD CONDITIONS. WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE WHO CAME HERE AS CHILDREN. WHO CAME HERE AS CHILDREN. WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE WE WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THE DREAMERS, BUT AMERICANS ALSO DREAMERS, BUT AMERICANS ALSO WANT SECURE BORDERS. WANT SECURE BORDERS. THEY WANT TO GET CONTROL OF THEY WANT TO GET CONTROL OF ILLEGAL MIGRATION, AND THAT’S ILLEGAL MIGRATION, AND THAT’S TRUE, I KNOW FROM LAREDO, TEXAS, TRUE, I KNOW FROM LAREDO, TEXAS, TO DETROIT, MICHIGAN, AND SO TO DETROIT, MICHIGAN, AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT DEPRIORITIZING THE DEPORTATION DEPRIORITIZING THE DEPORTATION OF THOSE APPREHENDED AT THE OF THOSE APPREHENDED AT THE BORDER OR DECRIMINALIZING BORDER OR DECRIMINALIZING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, I KNOW THAT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, I KNOW THAT WE’RE GOING WAY TOO FAR TO THE WE’RE GOING WAY TOO FAR TO THE LEFT OF THE AMERICAN CONSENSUS LEFT OF THE AMERICAN CONSENSUS ON WHERE WE SHOULD BE ON THIS, ON WHERE WE SHOULD BE ON THIS, AND YOU JUST CANNOT HAVE A AND YOU JUST CANNOT HAVE A POLICY WHERE A BORDER PATROL POLICY WHERE A BORDER PATROL AGENT ARRESTS SOMEONE AT THE AGENT ARRESTS SOMEONE AT THE BORDER AND SAYS, IN EFFECT, YOU BORDER AND SAYS, IN EFFECT, YOU GET TO STAY HERE UNLESS YOU GET TO STAY HERE UNLESS YOU COMMIT A CRIME. COMMIT A CRIME.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.>>THAT JUST SIMPLY INCENTIVIZES>>THAT JUST SIMPLY INCENTIVIZES MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. MORE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. WE LOSE CONTROL OF OUR BORDERS. WE LOSE CONTROL OF OUR BORDERS. IN THE SAME VEIN, BY TAKING A IN THE SAME VEIN, BY TAKING A FORMAL STEP OF DECRIMINAL USEIZI FORMAL STEP OF DECRIMINAL USEIZI ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, WHAT WE’RE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, WHAT WE’RE SAYING AS A COUNTRY OR SOCIETY SAYING AS A COUNTRY OR SOCIETY IS WE’RE PREPARED TO SEE A LOT IS WE’RE PREPARED TO SEE A LOT MORE OF THIS. MORE OF THIS. SOCIETY IS PREPARED TO SEE THAT SOCIETY IS PREPARED TO SEE THAT BEHAVIOR PERHAPS REGULARLY BUT BEHAVIOR PERHAPS REGULARLY BUT EN MASSE AND I DON’T THINK EN MASSE AND I DON’T THINK THAT’S WHERE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAT’S WHERE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE. ARE. I’M A DEMOCRAT, I’M A LOYAL I’M A DEMOCRAT, I’M A LOYAL DEMOCRAT, AND I WANT TO SEE US DEMOCRAT, AND I WANT TO SEE US WIN IN 2020, BUT TO DO THAT WIN IN 2020, BUT TO DO THAT WE’VE GOT TO APPEAL TO THE WIDE WE’VE GOT TO APPEAL TO THE WIDE CONSENSUS OUT THERE ON CONSENSUS OUT THERE ON IMMIGRATION AND A LOT OF OTHER IMMIGRATION AND A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES. ISSUES.>>THIS IS NO ENDORSEMENT OF THE>>THIS IS NO ENDORSEMENT OF THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S POLICIES TRUMP ADMINISTRATION’S POLICIES AT THE BORDER, YOU’RE JUST AT THE BORDER, YOU’RE JUST WARNING DEMOCRATS NOT TO GO TOO WARNING DEMOCRATS NOT TO GO TOO FAR TO THE LEFT. FAR TO THE LEFT. YOU’VE GOT A LINE WHERE YOU YOU’VE GOT A LINE WHERE YOU WRITE THOSE WHO ASPIRE TO PUBLIC WRITE THOSE WHO ASPIRE TO PUBLIC OFFICE SHOULD NOT ESPOUSE OFFICE SHOULD NOT ESPOUSE CAMPAIGN PROMISES THAT HAVE NO CAMPAIGN PROMISES THAT HAVE NO PROSPECT FOR SUCCESS. PROSPECT FOR SUCCESS. THIS IS A DISSERVICE TO OUR THIS IS A DISSERVICE TO OUR DEMOCRACY AND ASSUMES VOTERS ARE DEMOCRACY AND ASSUMES VOTERS ARE FOOLS. FOOLS. WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO THERE? WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO THERE?>>EVERYBODY.>>EVERYBODY. EVERY CANDIDATE. EVERY CANDIDATE.>>EVERY DEMOCRAT.>>EVERY DEMOCRAT.>>EVERY DEMOCRAT INCLUDING>>EVERY DEMOCRAT INCLUDING ANDREW YANG WHO’S APPARENT RI ANDREW YANG WHO’S APPARENT RI EIGHT POINTS AHEAD OF DONALD EIGHT POINTS AHEAD OF DONALD TRUMP, I THINK THAT’S A REALLY TRUMP, I THINK THAT’S A REALLY INTERESTING POLL. INTERESTING POLL.>>RICHARD HAASS WHAT DO YOU>>RICHARD HAASS WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF HIS ANALYSIS ON THE MAKE OF HIS ANALYSIS ON THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD AND DEMOCRATIC FIELD AND IMMIGRATION. IMMIGRATION.>>IT’S ALSO ON TAKING HEALTH>>IT’S ALSO ON TAKING HEALTH CARE AWAY, PRIVATE HEALTH CARE CARE AWAY, PRIVATE HEALTH CARE CONCEIVABLY FROM 175 MILLION CONCEIVABLY FROM 175 MILLION AMERICANS. AMERICANS. YOU JUST HAVE TO RESIST THE PULL YOU JUST HAVE TO RESIST THE PULL TO THE FAR LEFT THAT WOULD TO THE FAR LEFT THAT WOULD PRECLUDE YOU FROM EVER — THIS PRECLUDE YOU FROM EVER — THIS AT THE END OF THE DAY IS NOT A AT THE END OF THE DAY IS NOT A PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY. PROGRESSIVE COUNTRY. THIS IS A PRETTY MODERATE THIS IS A PRETTY MODERATE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. THE QUESTION IS CAN DEMOCRATS — THE QUESTION IS CAN DEMOCRATS — ON ALL THESE ISSUES. ON ALL THESE ISSUES. WHAT ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY, YOU WHAT ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY, YOU DON’T SEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, DON’T SEE ON NATIONAL SECURITY, THERE’S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN THERE’S A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN THE IMMIGRATION CONVERSATION, THE IMMIGRATION CONVERSATION, WHAT ABOUT MORE BROADLY WHETHER WHAT ABOUT MORE BROADLY WHETHER IT’S TRADE OR ON QUOTE, UNQUOTE IT’S TRADE OR ON QUOTE, UNQUOTE FOREVER WARS, WHAT’S YOUR SENSE FOREVER WARS, WHAT’S YOUR SENSE OF THE FOREIGN POLICY OF THE FOREIGN POLICY CONVERSATION ON THE DEMOCRATIC CONVERSATION ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE? SIDE? TO WHAT EXTENT DOES THAT ALSO TO WHAT EXTENT DOES THAT ALSO MAKE YOU UNEASY? MAKE YOU UNEASY?>>I THINK AMERICANS EXPECT>>I THINK AMERICANS EXPECT THEIR GOVERNMENT TO — WHETHER THEIR GOVERNMENT TO — WHETHER IT’S HOMELAND SECURITY OR THE IT’S HOMELAND SECURITY OR THE MILITARY TO KEEP THEM SAFE, TO MILITARY TO KEEP THEM SAFE, TO DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO KEEP THEM DO WHAT’S NECESSARY TO KEEP THEM SAFE. SAFE. WHILE I WAS IN OFFICE, MY GOAL, WHILE I WAS IN OFFICE, MY GOAL, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS SUPPORTED BE WHICH I BELIEVE WAS SUPPORTED BE I I BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS KEEP BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IS KEEP US SAFE BUT LET’S STAY TRUE TO US SAFE BUT LET’S STAY TRUE TO OUR VALUES, PRESERVE OUR CIVIL OUR VALUES, PRESERVE OUR CIVIL LIBERTIES BUT ALSO PRESERVE OUR LIBERTIES BUT ALSO PRESERVE OUR PHYSICAL SECURITY. PHYSICAL SECURITY. SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO IN SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO IN NATIONAL SECURITY, AND YOU KNOW NATIONAL SECURITY, AND YOU KNOW THIS RICHARD, IS STRIKING THE THIS RICHARD, IS STRIKING THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN PRESERVING RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN PRESERVING OUR VALUES AND PRESERVING OUR OUR VALUES AND PRESERVING OUR PHYSICAL SAFETY. PHYSICAL SAFETY.>>MR. SECRETARY, I MEAN, TO>>MR. SECRETARY, I MEAN, TO FOLLOW THE POINT IT SEEMS AS IF, FOLLOW THE POINT IT SEEMS AS IF, YOU KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS ARE, YOU YOU KNOW, THE DEMOCRATS ARE, YOU KNOW, FOCUSED A LOT ON THE KNOW, FOCUSED A LOT ON THE CRITICISM OF THE PRESIDENT’S CRITICISM OF THE PRESIDENT’S POLICY WITHOUT SPECIFICALLY POLICY WITHOUT SPECIFICALLY PRESENTING THEIR OWN IDEAS AND PRESENTING THEIR OWN IDEAS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, ON THE ISSUE OF NOT, YOU KNOW, ON THE ISSUE OF DEMOCRACY AND FOREIGN POLICY, DEMOCRACY AND FOREIGN POLICY, NOT KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE NOT KIND OF ACKNOWLEDGING THE CHANGES THAT BROUGHT TRUMP HERE CHANGES THAT BROUGHT TRUMP HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND YOU IN THE UNITED STATES AND YOU KNOW, BREXIT AND BORIS JOHNSON KNOW, BREXIT AND BORIS JOHNSON AND ALL OF THESE POPULOUS AND ALL OF THESE POPULOUS MOVEMENTS SWEEPING THROUGH, DO MOVEMENTS SWEEPING THROUGH, DO YOU THINK DEMOCRATS ARE PUTTING YOU THINK DEMOCRATS ARE PUTTING FORWARD ENOUGH? FORWARD ENOUGH? WE TALKED ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN WE TALKED ABOUT ELIZABETH WARREN PUTTING FORWARD HER SPECIFIC PUTTING FORWARD HER SPECIFIC PROPOSALS BUT THAT THEY’RE PROPOSALS BUT THAT THEY’RE CAUGHT TOO MUCH IN, YOU KNOW, CAUGHT TOO MUCH IN, YOU KNOW, TRUMP SHOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT? TRUMP SHOULD NOT BE PRESIDENT?>>LOOK, IF WE’RE TALKING ABOUT>>LOOK, IF WE’RE TALKING ABOUT AN AFFIRMATIVE POSITION ON AN AFFIRMATIVE POSITION ON NATIONAL SECURITY, TAKE NATIONAL SECURITY, TAKE AFGHANISTAN, FOR EXAMPLE. AFGHANISTAN, FOR EXAMPLE. I BELIEVE THAT RATHER THAN A I BELIEVE THAT RATHER THAN A TRUE PRESENCE OF SAY 100,000 OR TRUE PRESENCE OF SAY 100,000 OR COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL, WHAT THE COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL, WHAT THE UNITED STATES NEEDS TO DO, AT UNITED STATES NEEDS TO DO, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, IS TO LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING, IS TO KEEP A FORCE IN PLACE THERE AT KEEP A FORCE IN PLACE THERE AT THE LEVELS THAT FAIRLY GUARANTEE THE LEVELS THAT FAIRLY GUARANTEE THAT NO OTHER TERRORIST THAT NO OTHER TERRORIST ORGANIZATION CAN REESTABLISH A ORGANIZATION CAN REESTABLISH A CAL FATE THERE, AT LEAST IN THE CAL FATE THERE, AT LEAST IN THE SHORT-TERM UNTIL THERE’S A MORE SHORT-TERM UNTIL THERE’S A MORE STABLE GOVERNMENT THERE, UNTIL STABLE GOVERNMENT THERE, UNTIL THE CIVIL WAR BETWEEN THE THE CIVIL WAR BETWEEN THE TALIBAN AND THE AFGHAN TALIBAN AND THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT IS SOMEHOW RESOLVED. GOVERNMENT IS SOMEHOW RESOLVED. I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE SOME I THINK WE HAVE TO CONTINUE SOME LEVEL OF PRESENCE THERE TO KEEP LEVEL OF PRESENCE THERE TO KEEP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAFE. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAFE. I AGREE THAT WHEN YOU’RE TALKING I AGREE THAT WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, ABOUT A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT, IT SHOULD BE AMERICA FIRST. IT SHOULD BE AMERICA FIRST. OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS FIRST, OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS FIRST, AND ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT AND ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT IS THROUGH ALLIANCES, AND JIM IS THROUGH ALLIANCES, AND JIM MATTIS TALKS ABOUT THIS A LOT, MATTIS TALKS ABOUT THIS A LOT, THROUGH ALLIANCES ENSURE OUR THROUGH ALLIANCES ENSURE OUR SAFETY AROUND THE WORLD IN SAFETY AROUND THE WORLD IN PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN, IN PLACES LIKE AFGHANISTAN, IN PRAISES LIKE SOMALIA, YEMEN, PRAISES LIKE SOMALIA, YEMEN, PAKISTAN, IRAQ, AND ELSEWHERE. PAKISTAN, IRAQ, AND ELSEWHERE.>>THAT WOULD MEAN, THOUGH, THAT>>THAT WOULD MEAN, THOUGH, THAT YOU WOULD OPPOSE THE CANDIDATES YOU WOULD OPPOSE THE CANDIDATES WHO ARE CALLING FOR WHO ARE CALLING FOR UNCONDITIONAL CALENDAR BASED UNCONDITIONAL CALENDAR BASED WITHDRAWALS FROM AFGHANISTAN WITHDRAWALS FROM AFGHANISTAN BECAUSE WE’RE HEARING THAT. BECAUSE WE’RE HEARING THAT.>>THAT IS CORRECT.>>THAT IS CORRECT. I WOULD OPPOSE ANY SUCH THING. I WOULD OPPOSE ANY SUCH THING. I THINK WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SOME I THINK WE NEED TO MAINTAIN SOME LEVEL OF PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN LEVEL OF PRESENCE IN AFGHANISTAN TO ENSURE THAT AL QAEDA OR THE TO ENSURE THAT AL QAEDA OR THE ISLAMIC STATE DOES NOT ESTABLISH ISLAMIC STATE DOES NOT ESTABLISH A CALLOWPHATE THERE. A CALLOWPHATE THERE.>>LET MANY ASK BOTH OF YOU,>>LET MANY ASK BOTH OF YOU, IT’S SEPTEMBER 11th, 2019. IT’S SEPTEMBER 11th, 2019. THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN EXTREMELY THIS COUNTRY HAS BEEN EXTREMELY FORTUNATE DUE TO THE DILIGENCE, FORTUNATE DUE TO THE DILIGENCE, THE SACRIFICE, THE HARD WORK OF THE SACRIFICE, THE HARD WORK OF MANY AMERICANS ON THE FRONT MANY AMERICANS ON THE FRONT LINES IN THE WAR ON TERROR. LINES IN THE WAR ON TERROR.>>CORRECT.>>CORRECT.>>LET’S SAY FRANCE WIRED WITHIN>>LET’S SAY FRANCE WIRED WITHIN SYRIA, THERE’S A SPECIFIC ISSUE SYRIA, THERE’S A SPECIFIC ISSUE THAT COULD BE EXPLOSIVE LATER THAT COULD BE EXPLOSIVE LATER TODAY OR TOMORROW, SO THE TODAY OR TOMORROW, SO THE NATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTOR FOR NATIONAL SECURITY DIRECTOR FOR MACRON, WHO DOES HE CALL HERE? MACRON, WHO DOES HE CALL HERE?>>THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION.>>THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION. THERE’S BEEN SO MUCH TURN IN THERE’S BEEN SO MUCH TURN IN THIS ADMINISTRATION WE’RE NOW THIS ADMINISTRATION WE’RE NOW CONSIDERING PEOPLE FOR JOBS THAT CONSIDERING PEOPLE FOR JOBS THAT WERE FIRED IN ROUND ONE. WERE FIRED IN ROUND ONE. I SAW TOM BOSSERT WAS ON THE I SAW TOM BOSSERT WAS ON THE LIST. LIST.>>RECYCLING.>>RECYCLING.>>RECYCLING.>>RECYCLING.>>RIGHT, RIGHT.>>RIGHT, RIGHT.>>MARK MORGAN WAS FIRED IN THE>>MARK MORGAN WAS FIRED IN THE EARLY DAYS OF THIS EARLY DAYS OF THIS ADMINISTRATION. ADMINISTRATION. HE’S NOW AT — HE’S NOW AT HE’S NOW AT — HE’S NOW AT I.C.E. SO YOUR QUESTION I.C.E. SO YOUR QUESTION DEMONSTRATES THE VOLATILITY OF DEMONSTRATES THE VOLATILITY OF SO MUCH TURNOVER IN THIS SO MUCH TURNOVER IN THIS ADMINISTRATION, BUT ON THE ADMINISTRATION, BUT ON THE QUESTION OF 9/11, MIKE, A LOT OF QUESTION OF 9/11, MIKE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK ME ARE WE SAFER TODAY PEOPLE ASK ME ARE WE SAFER TODAY THAN WE WERE 18 YEARS AGO? THAN WE WERE 18 YEARS AGO? THE ANSWER IS YES AND NO. THE ANSWER IS YES AND NO. WE’RE SAFER IN THE RESPECT THAT WE’RE SAFER IN THE RESPECT THAT OUR GOVERNMENT DOES A MUCH OUR GOVERNMENT DOES A MUCH BETTER JOB OF DETECTING AND BETTER JOB OF DETECTING AND PREVENTING LARGE SCALE FOREIGN PREVENTING LARGE SCALE FOREIGN DIRECTED TERRORIST ATTACKS ON DIRECTED TERRORIST ATTACKS ON THE HOMELAND. THE HOMELAND. I CAN’T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF I CAN’T TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF OVERSEAS PLOTS THAT WE STOPPED OVERSEAS PLOTS THAT WE STOPPED IN THEIR TRACKS OVER THE LAST 18 IN THEIR TRACKS OVER THE LAST 18 YEARS, COUNTLESS TO KEEP THE YEARS, COUNTLESS TO KEEP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SAFE. AMERICAN PEOPLE SAFE. WHERE WE’RE CHALLENGED NOW ARE WHERE WE’RE CHALLENGED NOW ARE THE SMALLER SCARE TERRORIST THE SMALLER SCARE TERRORIST INSPIRED ATTACKS BY THE INSPIRED ATTACKS BY THE SELF-RADICALIZED EITHER BY SELF-RADICALIZED EITHER BY SOMETHING THEY SEE AND READ FROM SOMETHING THEY SEE AND READ FROM A FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION A FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATION OR EXTREME RIGHT WING VIOLENT OR EXTREME RIGHT WING VIOLENT NATIONALISM. NATIONALISM. PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT’S THE PEOPLE ASK ME, WHAT’S THE ANSWER? ANSWER? I SAY THE FIRST THREE ANSWERS I SAY THE FIRST THREE ANSWERS ARE GUN SAFETY, GUN SAFETY, GUN ARE GUN SAFETY, GUN SAFETY, GUN SAFETY SAFETY SAFETY, AND WE JUST HAVE TO SAFETY, AND WE JUST HAVE TO ADDRESS THIS. ADDRESS THIS. IF JOE MANCHIN AND PAT TOOMEY IF JOE MANCHIN AND PAT TOOMEY CAN GET TOGETHER ON THIS — AND CAN GET TOGETHER ON THIS — AND THESE ARE TWO STATES WITH STRONG THESE ARE TWO STATES WITH STRONG POSITIONS ON THE SECOND POSITIONS ON THE SECOND AMENDMENT — IF THEY CAN AMENDMENT — IF THEY CAN EXERCISE THE POLITICAL COURAGE EXERCISE THE POLITICAL COURAGE TO COME TOGETHER ON THIS, THE TO COME TOGETHER ON THIS, THE REST OF THE CONGRESS OUGHT TO BE REST OF THE CONGRESS OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, AND I THINK ABLE TO DO THAT, AND I THINK THAT THE TIME IS NOW FINALLY THAT THE TIME IS NOW FINALLY RIGHT FOR CONGRESS TO DO RIGHT FOR CONGRESS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT GUN SAFETY. SOMETHING ABOUT GUN SAFETY. WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AS A WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THAT AS A MATTER OF OUR PUBLIC SAUFTYFETY MATTER OF OUR PUBLIC SAUFTYFETY HOMELAND SECURITY. HOMELAND SECURITY.>>THERE’S BEEN AN>>THERE’S BEEN AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT, A PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGMENT, A PUBLIC ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM THE DIRECTOR ACKNOWLEDGMENT FROM THE DIRECTOR OF THE FBI THAT THE MAJORITY OF OF THE FBI THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PLOTS DISRUPTED IN THE LAST THE PLOTS DISRUPTED IN THE LAST YEAR WERE DOMESTIC ORIENTED AND YEAR WERE DOMESTIC ORIENTED AND WERE FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST WERE FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST VIOLENCE. VIOLENCE. IS THERE FINALLY NOW A CHANGE IN IS THERE FINALLY NOW A CHANGE IN POSTURE FROM INTELLIGENCE POSTURE FROM INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES? AGENCIES?>>RIGHT WING VIOLENT>>RIGHT WING VIOLENT NATIONALIST ATTACKS NOW OUTPACE NATIONALIST ATTACKS NOW OUTPACE ATTACKS INSPIRED BY FOREIGN ATTACKS INSPIRED BY FOREIGN TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS. TERRORIST ORGANIZATIONS. THE ANTIDEFAMATION LEAGUE AND THE ANTIDEFAMATION LEAGUE AND OTHERS HAVE TRACKED THAT, AND OTHERS HAVE TRACKED THAT, AND LOOK, WHETHER IT’S FOREIGN LOOK, WHETHER IT’S FOREIGN INSPIRED, DOMESTIC INSPIRED, WE INSPIRED, DOMESTIC INSPIRED, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS FIRST AND HAVE TO ADDRESS FIRST AND FOREMOST FOR THE SAFETY OF THE FOREMOST FOR THE SAFETY OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE ABILITY OF A AMERICAN PEOPLE THE ABILITY OF A VIOLENT DERANGED INDIVIDUAL TO VIOLENT DERANGED INDIVIDUAL TO GET HIS HANDS ON A GUN, GET HIS HANDS ON A GUN, PARTICULARLY AN ASSAULT WEAPON PARTICULARLY AN ASSAULT WEAPON IN THIS COUNTRY, AND IF WE DO IN THIS COUNTRY, AND IF WE DO NOT, OUR LEADERS IN CONGRESS AND NOT, OUR LEADERS IN CONGRESS AND IN THE WHITE HOUSE ARE LETTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE ARE LETTING DOWN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. DOWN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THIS CAN’T GO ON. THIS CAN’T GO ON.>>FORMER SECRETARY OF HOMELAND>>FORMER SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY JEH JOHNSON, WE ALWAYS SECURITY JEH JOHNSON, WE ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHTS APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHTS PARTICULARLY ON THE AN RERS RINI PARTICULARLY ON THE AN RERS RINI OF 9/11. OF 9/11.>>>WE’LL TALK TO ANOTHER MEMBER>>>WE’LL TALK TO ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE OBAMA POWER TEAM, FORMER OF THE OBAMA POWER TEAM, FORMER U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS, SAMANTHA POWER. NATIONS, SAMANTHA POWER.>>>BEFORE WE GO TO BREAK, A>>>BEFORE WE GO TO BREAK, A LOOK AT THE PENTAGON JUST LOOK AT THE PENTAGON JUST MOMENTS AGO WHERE THE UNITED MOMENTS AGO WHERE THE UNITED STATES FLAG WAS UNFURLED AHEAD

100 thoughts on “Jeh Johnson Has Message For All Dems On Immigration | Morning Joe | MSNBC

  1. Many Democrats do you want our borders secure, but many of the candidates are running on open borders like Beto and Sanders, Warren, if this is the way it goes I don't think I would even vote, I think they're making a big mistake that's why Joe Biden is a head but I don't think he will make it!!!

  2. Stand up for American Citizens you mental patient demorats. Send all illegals back and help them come legally. Vet them like no other. If you open the borders we will falland fail as a country. Many people came the right way and are waiting as we speak to come legally.

  3. You demorats wanna give all illegals free health care while many many many children, woman and men that LEGAL do not have insurance yet you want to give it to criminals. You people are straight mental patients

  4. Give the millions of immigrants currently living in the US illegally a pathway. Especially if they have not broken laws. They have built lives here and have contributed much to our economy. It is ridiculous to think that we could depart millions of human souls back to a place they know little about anymore. We should expect our Government to have a heart. No more hard core Right Wing hatred of people of color. No more!

  5. Can’t wait for these old fcks to realize how progressive the country actually is. The wealthy have had plenty of time to raise wages and equalize the monetary gap. They’ve decided not to help their countrymen and now the poor will eat the rich

  6. Berryboma and his entire administration…the most treasonous in history.
    That's why MSNBCCCP always brings them in to push their propaganda.
    MSNBCCCP…CIA mockingbird media…look up Operation Mockingbird people.

  7. Republican beliefs are based on emotions and religion. Basically feelings and myths. Neither of which have anything to do with building roads and bridges, securing peace and prosperity, ensuring a healthy population, guaranteeing the earth remains a fit planet to live on. Republicans thrive on hatred, retribution, judgment, manipulation, deception, with death as a punishment and threat. Humanity will not survive the Republican obsession with god, judgment, and punishment. There's no cure for these people, they simply can't be allowed to hold positions of power and responsibility. This truth is self evident. You can't be a public servant if your ideology is delusional, and you have no idea how important the truth is.

  8. DEAR DEMOCRATS, I TOO , LONG FOR FREE STUFF !! BUT , I WANT MY CANCER -FREE UNICORN ( with no GMOs, of course! ) MAGENTA !! 🦄

  9. SOON MSNBC WILL BE GONE , AND WE'LL GET SOME PEOPLE UN- BRAINWASHED !!! NOW GO CHECK OUT OANN !! GET SOME "REAL
    NEWS ", NOT MADE FOR DUMMIES !!

  10. U want DESPERATE how about the THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS AMERICAN CITIZENS AND FAMILIES LIVING IN THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS IN DEMOCRAT RUN DISTRICTS AND STATES the FORGOTTEN THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS AMERICAN CITIZENS who the Corrupt Democrats in Congress put I'LLEGALS here I'LLEGALLY FIRST, WHAT A DISGRACE.THOSE THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS AMERICAN CITIZENS AND FAMILIES ARE VERY DESPERATE AND CRYING OUT FOR HELP BUT NO ONE MENTIONS THEM,ITS ALL ABOUT DEMOCRAT VOTER FRAUD USING I'LLEGALS PERIOD.DISGRACEFUL

  11. The US has been keeping the country safe from North Korea since 1953. For the money wasted there, every American could have health care that rivals the members of Congress get for free.

  12. Johnson is reasonable. Democrats have to be careful not to fall too left which many are. Too far left or right is not the reasonable way to go.

  13. How do you keep Americans safe by staying in Afghanistan?

    The last time you went to afghanistan and trained people, you created the taliban and built osama bin laden.

    Without the US involvement in Afghanistan in the 80/90ies there would never have been a 9/11

  14. I'm not sure why he uses the lexicon of Trump. It's good that the Dem tent is big enough for all views but he is certainly on the right-ish side of the party.

  15. Amazing how this panel spews such corporatist crap.
    The American people are so tired of our political leaders sucking up to corporations, and their stranglehold on public media.
    The only people fear progressive ideas, are those who fear change, or those who are making money on the stagnation…

  16. Finally, a fellow democrat that realizes that all of us are NOT for unlimited illegal immigration! Now only if one candidate would focus on the employers, not the individuals… they got my vote

  17. The hot seat, shake'n sizzling Mavis bacon, busy chicken head pecking upon the whiter typewriter, yes just a bit more white out on her that's all folk's, then it's an all out Mavis blizzard chicken stuck gizzards. Brer wabbit wise, uncle Remus never saw a dime. Yes the bug's eyed baptist and the thievin heathen. Can't catch me, on the gypsy breeze, Yes sir run'n down on your "that's all folks" don't seem chicken head rightly somehow. My way a see'n, is believing. Mirror mirror upon the wall the devil's blood wine glass is full and tall, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i0DMbCKnAg the lady of the fire lake is giving me the same song bird again.

  18. So…this is what I don't understand… The problem that people seem to have with 'open borders' is that they fear that immigrants will come to this country and wind up taking advantage of on our stronger economy without having to pay for any of those benefits. But here's the thing – the only way that that scenario can happen is with CLOSED borders because the illegal status of the immigrants is what allows employers to pay immigrants less than legal citizens, and is also what prevents these same immigrants from paying taxes. If we opened our borders and allowed these people to work here legally, this would nullify both of those issues.

  19. TOUPEE tRump is a Chump, he blows cover of assets and squeals like a snitching pig about Intel. We can't have a traitor like that in our midst. tRump is anti-American.

  20. Crossing the border illegally previously was not a crime. It was a civil matter. Criminalizing it is the way Trump is able to justify separating families and keeping them locked up.

  21. Wow, MSNBC is worried about Universal healthcare gaining popularity. I've heard it framed multiple times as the left taking away people's healthcare when, we know in actuality, it is about giving everyone healthcare. Plus, not one mention of Bernie. Hopefully that means there is a real possibility (a real 'threat' in their eyes) for healthcare for all and progressive leadership!

  22. Honestly? My experience with illegal immigrants has not been detrimental in any way. I don’t understand the vehemence expressed here and by the Republicans. They(immigrants ) are the people making our food, building our homes, tending our yards and caring for our children. They avoid breaking the law, they pay taxes and are mostly family oriented. The hubbub about immigration was a Republican non-issue used to bully voters, much like abortion. Most Americans do not really care about this issue, because they don’t own the businesses hiring illegal immigrants and aren’t in competition for the jobs that undocumented workers typically hold. They don’t care who is in the restaurant kitchen or who is cleaning their doctors’ office, or who is baking in the hot sun putting the roof on their home. If our government really wants to stop illegal entry into our country, the people and businesses that employ undocumented workers should be punished so severely that they are forced to stop the practice or serve jail time. If our government really cared about job creation, they would punish every American company that moves production overseas, or anywhere out of the country, and then sell their products here. It should be completely cost-prohibitive to move production out of the country of origin. This is why so many patents and inventions and intellectual properties have been stolen or copied (reverse engineered) by our trading partners. We shouldn’t be arresting and caging desperate asylum seekers, we should be arresting the corporate enablers.

  23. What kind of lives do people live that they're more afraid of illegal immigrants over randomly getting shot or the cost of healthcare and education? Must be nice to be rich, powerful, and ignorant.

  24. Founding Fathers were VERY smart men that saw this coming:
    “A free people ought not only be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them. Which would include their own government.” – George Washington

  25. Soon as any candidate goes slightly left of center, the money interests mobilize legions to unleash the S-word, the I-word, and sometimes the old C-word (Communist.) Can't let the peasants see what's really going on, or let them gain any power. Keep 'em divided and scared. Works for Trump, too.

  26. Why do Democrats think that they need to appeal to the right

    The right literally never does that and yet they keep on winning

    Also this country is leaning way more left, don't they notice the voters under 40 are left.

    And that's why they'll lose

  27. People need to quit wasting time and energy talking about taking away private health insurance. With rates and deductibles increasing and coverage shrinking, once the US has a viable universal health care system, the private health insurance companies will evaporate without any outside help. They will shrink to a small market for upper middle class folks who want to pay extra for luxury care.

  28. Keep pushing Biden. He represents the established government that people hated and voted for trump because of their corruption. We, the people, do NOT want more of the same corporate run government!

  29. America is, fundementally, a PROGRESSIVE nation, we are NOT centrist, in any way shape or form, please stop spouting this corporate propaganda bs.

  30. If Healthcare acess for all of us is some radical fantasy, I defy you to find and present any person who will say publicly "I do not deserve healthcare. My family does not deserve Healthcare." Anyone who argues against universal Healthcare has coverage for himself and his family. I bet you a dallar.

  31. MSNBC does not want change. They just want the status quo. They don’t want what’s best for the common man. Health care for all, says in it’s name, health care for ALL! What are these people talking about? That’s the second time someone said 170 million people will lose there health care! It makes no sense! These are supposed to be intelligent people. They obviously have a hidden agenda.

  32. So, if you are a migrant castaway, and you survived the journey it took to get here, you're automatically a criminal? Screw that!

  33. Liberals’ TDS is ramping up after 2 overnight GOP special election wins in NC. Cry it up snowflakes! Your tears are proof positive that our campaigns are effective in thwarting your absurdity.

  34. showing up at the border and asking for asylum is NOT illigal. it is covered by US law and the constitution. the only ones who act illigally are Trump and the border control. he, by imposing illigal orders. them, by taking water from the refugees instead of providing them with. once upon a time, US soldiers offered the enemy(!) water in war. now the US fears women and toddlers. under leadership of a strange coward. MAGA? c'mon on!!

  35. I have no idea what Jeh Johnson is trying to achieve here, building a great wall is helping nobody, the American low wage industry needs Mexicans and paedophile trump is all about building a wall and not immigration control, ask Jeh Johnson was President Obama policy the right policy ship the all out, the deporter in chief. What does Jeh Johnson propose is the right immigration policy, Jeh Johnson does a lot of talking but I di not know what his immigration policy is?

  36. Healthcare results from around the world prove that universal healthcare works better than the private for profit only USA model.
    And at 1/2 the cost per capita of the USA.
    So sad, so much sad pathetic winning.
    Update! The USA 35th! Down one. Behind Cuba!
    Bloomberg released it's 2019 World Health Index
    Spain #1, Australia #7, Canada #16, UK #19, Cuba #30, USA #35
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-02-24/spain-tops-italy-as-world-s-healthiest-nation-while-u-s-slips
    https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/canada-ranks-16th-in-world-s-healthiest-nations-index-1.1219071

  37. Is Jeh Johnson trying to be President Obama-esck, next we know Jeh Johnson will be a late runner for the presidency or looking to getting back into the next Democrat government.

  38. Jeh Johnson is living in cloud cookoo land concerning gun control, gun control is easy if Jeh Johnson can disable the NRA, it is that simple, America is ready to go but Moscow Mitch and paedophile trump are in the hands of the NRA who are in the hands of Putin GRU Kremlin. Jeh is an easy to talker.

  39. not a progressive country…….we NEED a progressive country. if we dont progress, we either are stagnating or moving backwards.

  40. I'm so glad all the Democrats raised their hands at the debate to give them free health care. They should get $1,000 a month, unlimited food stamps and a hybrid car for free as well. We obviously can't survive without them overwhelmingly working in minimum wage jobs. Just enough with the bigotry, let them in and give them voting rights.

  41. I laugh looking at all the “moderates “ who used to be right wing republicans, kicked out of their own party, now telling democrats how everyone around them make a moderate country. They need to get out of their ivory towers

  42. Omg. What part of UNIVERSAL healthcare do these guys not get?
    They aren't going to take healthcare away from 10 million, they're giving it to the OTHER 20 Million who DONT HAVE IT.
    Every major country has it.
    RIDICULOUS, Republican BS talking point, that one.

  43. Here's a logic for these deranged dems, while u are concern on the plight of illegal immigrants?… The people in Baltimore are living in a shithole

  44. Jeh talking until Taliban stops fighting with a U.S. puppet Afghan government, that will never happen even the Russians knew when to cut bait. Fuck7ng know it alls given a platform to protect the military industrial complex.
    #sellouts

  45. "This is not a progressive country" – Keep getting your electoral advice from "former" Republicans, HRC, Clair McCaskill, and Third Way who lost 2016 to an "unelectable" buffoon. None of you deserve your careers in media. Majority support for M4A, GND, etc. means you are wrong. Look at some polls and substantiate your (incorrect) thesis (you can't) #SandersWarrenYang2020

  46. I love how excuses are made about how socialized health care is impossible. The United States is the ONLY developed western country WITHOUT socialized health care.

  47. I think the danger for Democrats right now is to throw the baby out with the bathwater – this never solves anything – it only creates new turmoil with both parties digging in their heels. Even a greater possibility now if Trump loses – republicans will never forgive "anyone" that put them to shame.

  48. Obama deported more people in 1 year, than Trumps been able to deport in 2.
    The moderates don’t like illegal immigration and you need to take it seriously.

  49. Johnson is right on the money. "Decrimininalizing" illegal immigration is a worthless euphemism. Illegal immigration is criminal, period, by definition, and you cannot take the criminality out of it.

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