Japanese View on Germans in WW2

Japanese View on Germans in WW2



we already looked at what the Germans fought about the Japanese in the late nineteen forties now in this video we'll look what the Japanese fought about the chairman's from pre-war 3 end of World War two so let's get started first we take a short look at the nine fifth century for quite some time the Japanese actually oriented themselves after French for instance using their translated infantryman Arras since the French suffered a serious defeat by the Prussians in the franco-prussian war of 1870 to 1871 the Japanese reoriented themselves in 1884 a delegation for senior officers was sent to tour and investigate European armies for one year they decided that the Prussian military system should be the the new standard for the Japanese and requested a senior instructor from the Prussian war minister soon the Japanese had adapted the military system by 1889 the Prussian draft 1884 Field Service regulations had been scintillated into Japanese and two years later the army completed a transition from the French to the Prussian training regimen and immersed recruits in training and drilling according to the new infantry manual similarly the Japanese held the chairman's in high regard in many ways but there are earrings for the chairman mass in structure which in Japan often lead to over estimation of things German remain one-sided and was not reciprocated but a German side towards the teachable pupil although during the First World War the Chairman and Japanese empires were enemies there was no major change in their long-term views also the Chairman prisoners of war in Japan but treated very well before we move to the interwar years it is important to note that the Japanese are strong into service rivalry between the Imperial Japanese Navy and Army both had sometimes quite different fusing with Germans and these fuels were off me trusted to serve the agenda of the particular service as such in some cases the head quite correct assessments yet in other cases they just went fully overboard additionally it is important to consider that the impure Japanese armies or the Soviet Union as the main enemy versus the Imperial Japanese Navy was focused on the United Kingdom and the United States those are sometimes expressed with the new often first often stretch let's look at the interval yes although the Japanese had very favorable views of the Germans the Germans were less positive about the Japanese additionally German Far East policy in China favored the Chinese to do their resources instead of the Japanese the fact that in German Far East policy China always ranked ahead of Japan for economic reasons and that the Japanese in Berlin was regarded only from the point of view of power politics was a painful experience for the Japanese and led to an underlying mistrust of Berlin's politics by the way this is also related to the fact that the Chairman supplied the Chinese with Panthers something I covered in an older video well I still have here note that the sign of Japanese cooperation only ended in 1938 nevertheless the Japanese were quite forthcoming to the Germans for instance in 1934 a German official of the Air Ministry was granted access to the Japanese carrier Akashi his report was also read by Hitler himself the Germans returned the favor by giving the Japanese access to one of the panzer Scheffer literally armored ship but usually called pocket battleships in English after that the Japanese invited the German specialists for an in-depth study of Japanese carrier design and this was not a small favor the Imperial Japanese Navy's development aid to the chairman's in the field of aircraft carriers was unprecedented in so far that no other foreign power had ever been granted anything comparable yet the chance this time did not return the favor quite to the dismay of the Japanese still the Japanese treated the Chairman never attache better than any other foreign inertia yet what was likely far more important was the angle German naval treaty of 1935 in which the Germans limited the Navy to 35% of the tonnage of the Royal Navy the Japanese bitterly remarked that the regarded the agreement almost as an alliance still the Japanese kept positive relations with the German Navy and there was an intelligence cooperation going on from 1935 onward which was extended 37 and 39 about various powers like the Soviet Union for man's crib Britain and the United States but let's move to the crew from the year of a 1939 as mentioned before the Imperial Japanese Army favored in northern strategy and in late summer 1939 this resulted in a clash between the Red Army and the Japanese army which is also known as the Battle of kayaking gold or no Mohan for the Japanese why is this a crucial Wow in the midst of chuco's offensive with the 23rd division literally fighting for its life Chapman's reputed Ally Nazi Germany concluded a non-aggression pact with the Soviet Union this dramatic turn about caustic fall of the cabinet in Tokyo and consistent throughout the army soon afterwards the Germans invaded Poland and the Japanese likely at this point had lost the trust of the Germans and focused on their own agenda in Asia yet it could also be that they were just cautious in November 1939 Germans were informed that Japanese were not willing to openly compromise the neutrality belonging the German Navy used the port but we're willing to cooperate along the lines that they had been agreed upon in 1938 after the Battle of France the Japanese were quite certain the Great Britain would be defeated run as soon as well although previously the Japanese were reluctant to turn a fall alliance with Germany and Italy to the fields of the United States into meaning this had changed after the successful campaigns in the mistaken assessment the German invasion of the British Isles was on the verge of a successful conclusion Tokyo leadership had finally responded to the German bid for alliance in 1940 nevertheless the Japanese especially the Navy made sure that the three-part ID pact was not a military alliance and allowed for a lot of leeway but let's move forward to 1941 in April 1941 the Japanese on a neutrality pact with the Soviet Union which was probably not the best timing since in June 1941 the way I'm after invaded the Soviet Union as we all know the Japanese did not intervene in this conflict for different reasons something I will cover in the future additionally they became less optimistic about the churun capabilities the fact that the German advance in the Smolensk area had been delayed for more than month in any case cause the Japanese to have initial doubts about the success of the German campaign plan and seem to confirm the decision of the Imperial conference over the course of the war impaired Japanese army became more and more cautious about the Chairman ability to defeat the Soviet Union for the first time the army strategic plans expressed doubt the Germany could defeat the USSR in 1942 but the hell out hope that the German occupation of the Caucasus might cause Stalin's regime to collapse now one might agree that the Japanese had kabadi correct assessment about the German chances yet remember the also assume that the Germans would defeat the British in 1940 and there's a pattern here to these assumptions for the Japanese the Western analysts became the main opponent after 1939 as such they quite often overestimated or amplifies German victories against the Western Allies while the Japanese took a very realistic view of Germany's war against the suffered Union the Japanese lost to their own wishful thinking when assessing the Chairman chances against England and North America this is also reflected by the fact that the Japanese initial peace talks throughout the whole solid German war meanwhile from November 1941 to February 1945 Tokyo pushed to a separate peace between the Germans and the Soviets so that the axis could concentrate on the Western Allies a major shift came after the German defeat at Stalingrad in early 1943 the Japanese also said the delegate to Germany since they were not so happy about their own ambassador Ashima dare which they refer to as the rebel tops messenger boy but Amanda seen the Japanese military did not gain a positive picture of Germany's fighting power this according to cable dated 52 943 was lower than the previously assumed in Japan moreover the Wehrmacht legs man following industrial production gasoline and oil shortages also had a negative impact on Germany's effectiveness the collapse of the last German offensive in the east unternehmen Citadel operation Citadel strengthened the Japanese in the revised assessment of German endurance this led to a further negative chef around 4:00 1943 at this point Japanese newspaper started to print some reports and news from a Swiss newspaper additionally the Japanese now interpreted nearly everything as a German weakness to confirm the own strategy basically at this point there was a limited to no mutual exchange of military information between Japan and Germany probably the final nail in the coffin was the fake coupe at him against Hitler on July 20th 1944 the military coup against Hitler as it had to be present itself from the Japanese point of view completely destroyed the remaining trust in the German army at this point the Japanese just waited for the chairman's to collapse and used the German defeat is a negative motivation for its own population to summarize although Japanese held the Germans in very high esteem the continuous disregard by the Germans before the second world war that the Japanese to be quite as last full of the Germans the various treaties by the Germans with principal enemies of the Japanese namely the anglo-german naval treaty / 1935 and the soldier impact of 1939 we received very negatively inta letter we've brought down a government during the war the Japanese evaluation of Germany and its forces was mostly skewed to the lens of self-interest or better lenses of self-interest since both the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy at points got the estimates correct although usually only when it saw of their own agendas this also reflects our abusive relationship of information within the Japanese military forces furthermore it underlines the fact that the axis is not really an alliance but a bunch of fellow have-nots nations SS Turin 3 refer to them or I scored a Norman put it the axis lacked common statements of purpose common great strategic conceptions and planning and even in some cases common enemies rather was a collection of predators none of which trusted one another well I hope you liked this episode thank you here two microphones ending me in service of the Emperor Peter and an office enemy cheap hands Imperial Army and of course big thank you to all my supporters on patreon and subscribe stuff special thanks to Justin helping me finding resources as always sauce a link the description I hope you enjoyed this episode thank you for watching and see you next time

40 thoughts on “Japanese View on Germans in WW2

  1. Axis wasn't much of an alliance, there was no real cooperation between the 3 and was simply a pact of not to attack each other.
    US-Br >> US-Soviet > US/Brit – China >> Ger-Ita > Ger-Jpn

  2. This was a fascinating topic, but surely Japan-German cooperation improved after Japan's disillusionment in 1943. Afterall, we know they had communications regarding amphibious imvasion information and Germany gave Japan rocket technology for their Okha rocket powered suicide planes. Then there was the Tiger tank the Japanese got.

  3. I thought Germans sent Tiger's blueprints to Japan and also after Germany's surrender, submarines were found ready to be sent to Japan with full of nuclear material. Japan too had nuclear plans in North Korea probably lacked the required amount. ( Also i think Germany ,after Brits destroyed the heavy water facilities in Norway, couldn't process the uranium ore so they decided to send it to Japan not sure if Japan had any ways to process it )

  4. Tanya Degurechaff from Youjo Senki, Pandora's Actor from Overlord and other similar characters in anime have strongly indicated to me that the Japanese were really impressed by the Germans, which is easy to understand. In MOBA terms, the Germans nearly carried the whole team, Italy fed and Japan was barely holding on, gg.

  5. My favorite detail about this relationship was when the Japanese diplomat was returning by train from Germany and passed through the obvious preparations for Barbarossa that the German's had not told them about.

  6. The old fellas I worked under when I was an apprentice considered those who grow beards [of which I am now one] were 'cultivating' on their face that which grows 'wild' around their arse !!!!

  7. Poor Japan, actually it seems like he was the one who wanted to alliance… and the germans only tought them as "friends*" thats the same thing she did to me the last year….

  8. Japanese inter-service rivalry was simply disastrous for the country’s long-term war aims.

    This is why army men should never dabble in international politics. It isn’t their area of expertise.

  9. The Japanese actually surrendered; the Germans fought till the literal end. Shouldn’t they have revered that level of dedication to the struggle?

  10. Although this is not the point of your video, there is the statement about the "Battle of Britain" which I actually have some issues with. Some time ago I read "Interrogations with Göring" by the Swedish author Niclas Sennerteg. Göring stated categorically that if the Luftwaffe wasn't forced to divert planes to the Eastern front, they would have won. I got kind of confused, but read some British intelligence assessments and even a great documentary (link lost), that confirmed this fact.

    In the spring of 1941, the British losses began to rise to critical levels, and if the Luftwaffe had been allowed to keep going for another half a year or so, Germany would actually have gained air superiority, and Britain may have been forced to sue for peace. This goes against the general idea of those critical few weeks in the fall of 1940, when Hitler in rage diverted the bombers to civilian targets in retribution. I would love to hear your take on that.

    I do believe that Stalin eventually would've attacked Germany, but not for another year at least. This may also be contentious, but I do not claim to the myth that Operation Barbarossa was a direct preemptive strike.

  11. THE JAPANESE SHOULD HAVE PUSHED FROM BURMA INTO TIBET AND FURTHER TROUGH KAZAKHSTAN ALL THE WAY TO MOSCOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    NARUTO RUN TROUGH CENTRAL ASIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    all of China encircled!!! gg EZ win!!!

  12. But why did the Japanese regard the German attachés like allies when the Germans didn't see it the same way? Why were the Japanese so high on the Germans? A few reasons perhaps. Maybe first and foremost that the Germans would never threaten the interests of Japan? This maybe falters when considering the warm Sino-German relations. The second reason would be the style of Prussian military tradition? Is it a cultural thing? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, just wanted to lay my thoughts out and help your algorithm. Cheers man, always wishing I could take a class taught by you.

  13. In case you're having issues with demonetization and what not with YouTube your German neighbor, Jorg Sparve just posted up a video that you might find interesting.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZZ5Kouj_hQ

  14. Both Jap strategies make sense for each branch, striking North or South.
    The Allies also lacked many things the Axis did, America ran the show which annoyed UK so they got to run a single operation, they screwed it up Operation Market Garden. FDR and Church hated one another, Stalin used this. A Polish office stated The devil (Stalin) played a tune and FDR and Churchill danced along

  15. AFAIK, more Japanese were able to speak German than English (due to Germans being needing in many domains in science) and what really amazes me is that to this day like every second anime has references to German culture and they even cover German songs that Germans forgot about…

  16. The German/Japanese alliance can be favorably compared to that of the Western Allies/USSR to the extent that the alliance was one of realpolitik hampered by mutual distrust if not hostility.

  17. It's also possible Japan was disappoined by Germany's attack on Poland because they were allies in espionage against Soviet Union

  18. I look forward to a video on Japan's decision not to join in on an invasion of the Soviet Union after the Germand did. Once the US embargoed oil to Japan, they required resources that could only be found in the south and so attacking north was off the table. But there was a good 5 weeks between the start of Barbarossa and the embargo. Did Japan consider joining in during that time, especially when they saw Sovuet resistance to be so weak?

  19. I feel the Japanese got plenty of bang for their buck later in the relationship: I doubt the East Indies, Indochina and Malaya would have been such easy pickings without those Colonial countries having their hands full with Germany, and Germany went out of its way to declare war on the US. The Japanese on the other hand weren’t that useful to the Germans at all during the war.

  20. To be fair to the Germans there wasn't a lot that Japan could offer Germany at the time. Other than being a pupil of their military system there's really nothing Japan can give back.

  21. Keep scrolling bois, don't mind me I'm just leaving a comment for the algorithm. This high quality dude deserves it.

  22. I was very surprised when I learned that during the Treaty Period, the only Europeans the Chinese liked were the Germans. The enclave at Tsing Tao was considered a model city and the Germans and Chinese seem to have gotten on quite well with one another. Also, bald is cool.

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