House Judiciary Asks If White House Linked To Jeffrey Epstein Decisions | The Last Word | MSNBC

House Judiciary Asks If White House Linked To Jeffrey Epstein Decisions | The Last Word | MSNBC


GOING TO FIND YOURSELVES IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS ONE, IN AGREEMENT WITH THIS ONE, IN AGREEMENT WITH DONALD TRUMP FOR AGREEMENT WITH DONALD TRUMP FOR THIS ONE TIME. THIS ONE TIME. BUT WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE BUT WE BEGIN TONIGHT WITH THE DEATH IN PRISON OF A FORMER DEATH IN PRISON OF A FORMER FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP’S, A MAN FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP’S, A MAN WHO DONALD TRUMP CALLED A WHO DONALD TRUMP CALLED A TERRIFIC GUY, WHO WITH DONALD TERRIFIC GUY, WHO WITH DONALD TRUMP’S FULL APPROVAL LIKED TRUMP’S FULL APPROVAL LIKED GIRLS WHO IN DONALD TRUMP’S GIRLS WHO IN DONALD TRUMP’S WORDS WERE “ON THE YOUNGER WORDS WERE “ON THE YOUNGER SIDE.” SIDE.” IT TOOK THE DEATH OF AN ACCUSED IT TOOK THE DEATH OF AN ACCUSED CHILD RAPIST AND SEX TRAFFICKER CHILD RAPIST AND SEX TRAFFICKER AND FRIEND OF PRESIDENTS TRUMP AND FRIEND OF PRESIDENTS TRUMP AND CLINTON TO UNITE THE AND CLINTON TO UNITE THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ON THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ON THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN THE SEARCH FOR INFORMATION FROM SEARCH FOR INFORMATION FROM DONALD TRUMP AND WILLIAM BARR’S DONALD TRUMP AND WILLIAM BARR’S JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT. CHAIRMAN JERRY NADLER AND THE CHAIRMAN JERRY NADLER AND THE RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE DOUG COLLINS JUDICIARY COMMITTEE DOUG COLLINS CO-SIGNED A LETTER TONIGHT TO CO-SIGNED A LETTER TONIGHT TO THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WITH 23 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WITH 23 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEATH OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEATH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. JEFFREY EPSTEIN. “FROM AN APPARENT SUICIDE ON THE “FROM AN APPARENT SUICIDE ON THE MORNING OF AUGUST 10th, 2019 MORNING OF AUGUST 10th, 2019 WHILE IN YOUR CUSTODY AT THE WHILE IN YOUR CUSTODY AT THE METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER METROPOLITAN CORRECTIONAL CENTER IN NEW YORK.” IN NEW YORK.” THE LETTER IS ADDRESSED TO HUGH THE LETTER IS ADDRESSED TO HUGH HURWITZ, THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF HURWITZ, THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS, WHICH IS THE BUREAU OF PRISONS, WHICH IS AN AGENCY IN THE JUSTICE AN AGENCY IN THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT UNDER ATTORNEY DEPARTMENT UNDER ATTORNEY GENERAL WILLIAM BARR’S CONTROL. GENERAL WILLIAM BARR’S CONTROL. HUGH HURWITTS IS A LIFETIME HUGH HURWITTS IS A LIFETIME GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT WHOSE GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRAT WHOSE CAREER BEGAN IN REPUBLICAN CAREER BEGAN IN REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATIONS BUT AS ALSO ADMINISTRATIONS BUT AS ALSO INCLUDED DEMOCRATIC INCLUDED DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATIONS. ADMINISTRATIONS. HE STARTED AS A LOW-LEVEL HE STARTED AS A LOW-LEVEL ASSISTANT IN THE BUREAU OF ASSISTANT IN THE BUREAU OF PRISONS THE YEAR AFTER HE PRISONS THE YEAR AFTER HE GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE. GRADUATED FROM COLLEGE. HE EVENTUALLY BECAME A LAWYER, HE EVENTUALLY BECAME A LAWYER, SPENT SOME TIME IN PRIVATE LAW SPENT SOME TIME IN PRIVATE LAW PRACTICE, RURNLD TO THE BURE O. PRACTICE, RURNLD TO THE BURE O. OF PRISONS IN 1997 IN A OF PRISONS IN 1997 IN A TECHNICAL CAPACITY AS AN TECHNICAL CAPACITY AS AN ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR ASSISTANT CHIEF FOR CONSTRUCTION. CONSTRUCTION. DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HE WORKED IN A TECHNICAL JOB IN HE WORKED IN A TECHNICAL JOB IN THE FOOD AND DRUG THE FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION, LATER BECAME THE ADMINISTRATION, LATER BECAME THE FDA’S I.T. GUY. FDA’S I.T. GUY. MOVED ON TO ANOTHER TECHNICAL MOVED ON TO ANOTHER TECHNICAL JOB HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH JOB HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH POLICY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF POLICY AND THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DURING THE OBAMA EDUCATION DURING THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HE JOINED NASA ADMINISTRATION HE JOINED NASA AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S AND THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S OFFICE. OFFICE. AND RETURNED TO THE BUREAU OF AND RETURNED TO THE BUREAU OF PRISONS IN 2015 AS AN ASSISTANT PRISONS IN 2015 AS AN ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR. MAY 18th OF 2018 ATTORNEY MAY 18th OF 2018 ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS APPOINTED GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS APPOINTED HUGH HURWITZ THE ACTING DIRECTOR HUGH HURWITZ THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS. OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS. AND BECAUSE THIS IS THE TRUMP AND BECAUSE THIS IS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HE IS STILL THE ADMINISTRATION HE IS STILL THE ACTING DIRECTOR. ACTING DIRECTOR. OVER A YEAR LATER. OVER A YEAR LATER. WHEN YOU SEE HUGH HURWITZ WHEN YOU SEE HUGH HURWITZ TESTIFY TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY TESTIFY TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE BOTH UNDER OATH AND COMMITTEE BOTH UNDER OATH AND UNDER PRESSURE AS HE MOST SURELY UNDER PRESSURE AS HE MOST SURELY WILL, YOU WILL BE SEEING THE WILL, YOU WILL BE SEEING THE LASSIC GOVERNMENT TECHNOCRAT. LASSIC GOVERNMENT TECHNOCRAT. YOU WILL NOT BE SEEING ANYONE YOU WILL NOT BE SEEING ANYONE WHO HAS EVER RUN A PRISON OR A WHO HAS EVER RUN A PRISON OR A JAIL HIMSELF. JAIL HIMSELF. HE HAS NEVER HAD ONE DAY OF HE HAS NEVER HAD ONE DAY OF EXPERIENCE WORKING IN A PRISON EXPERIENCE WORKING IN A PRISON OR A JAIL. OR A JAIL. IT IS POSSIBLE HE HAS NEVER MET IT IS POSSIBLE HE HAS NEVER MET AN INMATE. AN INMATE. BUT IT WAS HIS JOB TO KEEP BUT IT WAS HIS JOB TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. IT WAS ALSO WILLIAM BARR’S JOB IT WAS ALSO WILLIAM BARR’S JOB TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. AND ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR SAID AND ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR SAID TODAY IN EFFECT DON’T BLAME ME. TODAY IN EFFECT DON’T BLAME ME. ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR CLAIMED TO ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR CLAIMED TO BE “APPALLED AND ANGRY.” BE “APPALLED AND ANGRY.” THOSE WERE HIS WORDS. THOSE WERE HIS WORDS. ABOUT THE DEATH OF JEFFREY ABOUT THE DEATH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. AND HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT AND HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT HUGH HURWITZ IS IN LINE TO TAKE HUGH HURWITZ IS IN LINE TO TAKE THE FALL FOR THIS ONE. THE FALL FOR THIS ONE.>>WE ARE NOW LEARNING OF>>WE ARE NOW LEARNING OF SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES AT THIS SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES AT THIS FACILITY THAT ARE DEEPLY FACILITY THAT ARE DEEPLY CONCERNING AND DEMAND A THOROUGH CONCERNING AND DEMAND A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION.>>SO WILLIAM BARR IS CLEARLY>>SO WILLIAM BARR IS CLEARLY GOING POINT DOWNWARD AND BLAME GOING POINT DOWNWARD AND BLAME HUGH HURWITZ OR SOMEONE LOWER HUGH HURWITZ OR SOMEONE LOWER DOWN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AT THE DOWN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND AT THE FEDERAL CORRECTION CENTER IN NEW FEDERAL CORRECTION CENTER IN NEW YORK WHERE JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED. YORK WHERE JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED. MAYBE THE BARR INVESTIGATION MAYBE THE BARR INVESTIGATION WILL ULTIMATELY POINT THE FINGER WILL ULTIMATELY POINT THE FINGER AT THE UNIONIZED GUARDS WHO AT THE UNIONIZED GUARDS WHO FAILED TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN FAILED TO KEEP JEFFREY EPSTEIN ALIVE. ALIVE. OR THE CHIEF PSYCHOLOGIST OF THE OR THE CHIEF PSYCHOLOGIST OF THE CORRECTIONAL CENTER WHO WAS CORRECTIONAL CENTER WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE SUICIDE WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN SUICIDE WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND THE AFTERMATH OF THE SUICIDE AND THE AFTERMATH OF THE SUICIDE WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. WATCH OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. AFTER JEFFREY EPSTEIN REPORTEDLY AFTER JEFFREY EPSTEIN REPORTEDLY TRIED TO KILL HIMSELF LAST MONTH TRIED TO KILL HIMSELF LAST MONTH HE WAS PLACED ON SUICIDE WATCH HE WAS PLACED ON SUICIDE WATCH FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME AND THEN REPORTEDLY TAKEN OFF SUICIDE REPORTEDLY TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH. WATCH. THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS RULES FOR SUICIDE WATCHES WERE RULES FOR SUICIDE WATCHES WERE WRITTEN IN 2007 WHEN HUGH WRITTEN IN 2007 WHEN HUGH HURWITZ WAS WORKING AT THE HURWITZ WAS WORKING AT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION. IT’S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE HUGH IT’S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE HUGH HURWITZ HAD NO IDEA WHAT THOSE HURWITZ HAD NO IDEA WHAT THOSE RULES WERE UNTIL HE GOT THE RULES WERE UNTIL HE GOT THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER TONIGHT. TONIGHT. ONE OF THE RULES SAYS ONCE AN ONE OF THE RULES SAYS ONCE AN INMATE HAS BEEN PLACED ON WATCH INMATE HAS BEEN PLACED ON WATCH “THE WATCH MAY NOT BE TERMINATED “THE WATCH MAY NOT BE TERMINATED UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WITHOUT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE WITHOUT THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR OR THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR OR DESIGNEE PERFORMING A DESIGNEE PERFORMING A FACE-TO-FACE EVALUATION. FACE-TO-FACE EVALUATION. ONLY THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR ONLY THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO WILL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE AN INMATE FROM SUICIDE REMOVE AN INMATE FROM SUICIDE WATCH. WATCH. THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR IS THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR IS USUALLY THE PRISON’S CHIEF USUALLY THE PRISON’S CHIEF PSYCHOLOGIST.” PSYCHOLOGIST.” QUESTION 12 OF THE JUDICIARY QUESTION 12 OF THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER TO THE BUREAU COMMITTEE’S LETTER TO THE BUREAU OF PRISONSIZE, “DOES MCC NEW OF PRISONSIZE, “DOES MCC NEW YORK HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM YORK HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM COORDINATOR? COORDINATOR? DID HE OR SHE AUTHORIZE THE DID HE OR SHE AUTHORIZE THE REMOVAL OF MR. EPSTEIN FROM REMOVAL OF MR. EPSTEIN FROM SUICIDE WATCH? SUICIDE WATCH? IF NOT WHO DID?” IF NOT WHO DID?” QUESTION 13, DID THE PROGRAM QUESTION 13, DID THE PROGRAM COORDINATOR CONSULT WITH ANYONE COORDINATOR CONSULT WITH ANYONE ELSE IN MAKING THIS ELSE IN MAKING THIS DETERMINATION? DETERMINATION? IF SO, WHO? IF SO, WHO? QUESTION 14. QUESTION 14. “WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. “WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. EMSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH BY OUGHT EMSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH BY OUGHT FISHEL WHO MADE SUCH FISHEL WHO MADE SUCH DETERMINATION DISCUSSED WITH OR DETERMINATION DISCUSSED WITH OR DIRECTED BY ANY SUPERVISORY DIRECTED BY ANY SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL OR LEADERSHIP OF THE PERSONNEL OR LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS OR ANY BUREAU OF PRISONS OR ANY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PERSONNEL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE BRANCH PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE BRANCH PERSONNEL OUTSIDE OF THE BUREAU OF OUTSIDE OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS?” PRISONS?” QUESTION 15, “WHO AT THE BUREAU QUESTION 15, “WHO AT THE BUREAU OF PRISONS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OF PRISONS DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND ELSEWHERE IN THE EXECUTIVE AND ELSEWHERE IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH WAS NOTIFIED OF THE BRANCH WAS NOTIFIED OF THE TERMINATION OF MR. EPSTEIN’S TERMINATION OF MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH AND WHEN?” SUICIDE WATCH AND WHEN?” THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE IS THE THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE IS THE CRAZIEST WHITE HOUSE IN HISTORY. CRAZIEST WHITE HOUSE IN HISTORY. IT IS THE MOST RECKLESS GROUP OF IT IS THE MOST RECKLESS GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER WORKED IN A PEOPLE WHO HAVE EVER WORKED IN A WHITE HOUSE. WHITE HOUSE. AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF IS THE AND THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF IS THE MOST RECKLESS OF THEM ALL. MOST RECKLESS OF THEM ALL. THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE’S LETTER SIGNED BY THE TOP DEMOCRAT AND SIGNED BY THE TOP DEMOCRAT AND THE TOP REPUBLICAN ON THE THE TOP REPUBLICAN ON THE COMMITTEE, IS ASKING IF ANYONE COMMITTEE, IS ASKING IF ANYONE IN THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WAS IN THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE WAS INVOLVED OR AWARE OF THE REMOVAL INVOLVED OR AWARE OF THE REMOVAL STEIN. STEIN. THAT’S WHAT’S IN QUESTION NUMBER THAT’S WHAT’S IN QUESTION NUMBER 14. 14. WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. WAS THE TERMINATION OF MR. EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH EPSTEIN’S SUICIDE WATCH DISCUSSED WITH OR DIRECTED BY DISCUSSED WITH OR DIRECTED BY ANY SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL OR ANY SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL OR LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU OF LEADERSHIP OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS OR ANY DEPARTMENT OF PRISONS OR ANY DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE JUSTICE PERSONNEL OR EXECUTIVE BRANCH PERSONNEL? BRANCH PERSONNEL? WAS WILLIAM BARR INVOLVED? WAS WILLIAM BARR INVOLVED? WAS DONALD TRUMP INVOLVED? WAS DONALD TRUMP INVOLVED? THAT’S WHAT IS IN QUESTION THAT’S WHAT IS IN QUESTION NUMBER 14. NUMBER 14. AND THE HOUSE JUDICIARY AND THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS GOING TO GET COMMITTEE IS GOING TO GET ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, TO ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, TO ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS, ALL OF THESE QUESTIONS, INCLUDING PLEASE PROVIDE INCLUDING PLEASE PROVIDE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE INFORMATION PERTAINING TO THE INDIVIDUAL CORRECTION OFFICERS INDIVIDUAL CORRECTION OFFICERS WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHO WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING MR. EPSTEIN ON AUGUST MONITORING MR. EPSTEIN ON AUGUST 9th AND AUGUST 10th SPECIFICALLY 9th AND AUGUST 10th SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO HOW LONG THEY WITH RESPECT TO HOW LONG THEY HAD BEEN ON THEIR SHIFTS AT THE HAD BEEN ON THEIR SHIFTS AT THE TIME MR. EPSTEIN HAD BEEN FOUND TIME MR. EPSTEIN HAD BEEN FOUND NON-RESPONSIVE IN HIS CELL. NON-RESPONSIVE IN HIS CELL. QUESTION 17, “IF MR. EPSTEIN WAS QUESTION 17, “IF MR. EPSTEIN WAS REMOVED FROM SUICIDE WATCH, WHAT REMOVED FROM SUICIDE WATCH, WHAT PRECAUTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE TO PRECAUTIONS WERE PUT IN PLACE TO HELP PREVENT THE POSSIBILITY OF HELP PREVENT THE POSSIBILITY OF SELF-INJURY FROM MR. EPSTEIN SELF-INJURY FROM MR. EPSTEIN GIVEN THAT HE WAS TRANSITIONING GIVEN THAT HE WAS TRANSITIONING FROM SUICIDE WATCH? FROM SUICIDE WATCH? WERE THERE ANY STEPS TAKEN TO WERE THERE ANY STEPS TAKEN TO REMOVE POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTS OF REMOVE POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTS OF SELF-INJURY?” SELF-INJURY?” QUESTION 20, “WERE ANY VIDEO QUESTION 20, “WERE ANY VIDEO SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS PLACED IN SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS PLACED IN OR NEAR MR. EPSTEIN’S CELL? OR NEAR MR. EPSTEIN’S CELL? DO RECORDINGS SHOW THE DO RECORDINGS SHOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO MR. CIRCUMSTANCES THAT LED TO MR. EPSTEIN’S DEATH OR THE PRESENCE EPSTEIN’S DEATH OR THE PRESENCE OF ANY OTHER PERSON DURING THIS OF ANY OTHER PERSON DURING THIS TIME PERIOD?” TIME PERIOD?” THE BIPARTISAN LETTER SENT BY THE BIPARTISAN LETTER SENT BY THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TO THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE BUREAU OF PRISONS SAYS, “THE BUREAU OF PRISONS SAYS, “THE APPARENT SUICIDE OF THIS APPARENT SUICIDE OF THIS HIGH-PROFILE AND IF ALLEGATIONS HIGH-PROFILE AND IF ALLEGATIONS ARE PROVEN TO BE ACCURATE ARE PROVEN TO BE ACCURATE PARTICULARLY REPREHENSIBLE PARTICULARLY REPREHENSIBLE INDIVIDUAL WHILE IN THE FEDERAL INDIVIDUAL WHILE IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT’S CUSTODY GOVERNMENT’S CUSTODY DEMONSTRATES SEVERE MISCARRIAGES DEMONSTRATES SEVERE MISCARRIAGES OF AND DEFICIENCIES IN INMATE OF AND DEFICIENCIES IN INMATE PROTOCOL AND HAS ALLOWED THE PROTOCOL AND HAS ALLOWED THE DECEASED TO ULTIMATELY EVADE DECEASED TO ULTIMATELY EVADE FACING JUSTICE. FACING JUSTICE. ANY VICTIMS OF MR. EPSTEIN’S ANY VICTIMS OF MR. EPSTEIN’S ACTIONS WILL FOREVER BE DENIED ACTIONS WILL FOREVER BE DENIED PROPER RECOURSE. PROPER RECOURSE. THE COMPETENCY AND RIGOR OF OUR THE COMPETENCY AND RIGOR OF OUR CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS BEEN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS BEEN MARRED BY THIS APPARENT MARRED BY THIS APPARENT OVERSIGHT.” OVERSIGHT.” LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION LEADING OFF OUR DISCUSSION TONIGHT MIMI ROCAH, FORMER TONIGHT MIMI ROCAH, FORMER ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY IN THE ASSISTANT U.S. ATTORNEY IN THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK. SHE’S AN MSNBC LEGAL KRIRKT. SHE’S AN MSNBC LEGAL KRIRKT. AND JOHN HEILEMANN, NATIONAL AND JOHN HEILEMANN, NATIONAL AFFAIRS ANALYST FOR MSNBC NEWS AFFAIRS ANALYST FOR MSNBC NEWS AND MSNBC. AND MSNBC. HE IS CO-HOST AND EXECUTIVE HE IS CO-HOST AND EXECUTIVE PRODUCER OF SHOWTIME’S “THE PRODUCER OF SHOWTIME’S “THE CIRCUS.” CIRCUS.” MIMI, YOU KNOW THESE FACILITIES MIMI, YOU KNOW THESE FACILITIES DOWN THERE IN LOWER MANHATTAN. DOWN THERE IN LOWER MANHATTAN. FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY TWEETED FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY TWEETED OVER THE WEEKEND THAT SURELY OVER THE WEEKEND THAT SURELY THERE IS VIDEO THAT WILL TELL US THERE IS VIDEO THAT WILL TELL US SOMETHING IF NOT EVERYTHING SOMETHING IF NOT EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS. ABOUT THIS.>>THERE WILL BE VIDEO THAT WILL>>THERE WILL BE VIDEO THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PUZZLE THAT BE PART OF THE PUZZLE THAT THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO PIECE THEY’RE GOING TO HAVE TO PIECE TOGETHER. TOGETHER. THERE WON’T BE VIDEO IN THE SELL THERE WON’T BE VIDEO IN THE SELL BECAUSE OF PRIVACY RIGHTS. BECAUSE OF PRIVACY RIGHTS. BUT THERE WILL BE VIDEO FROM THE BUT THERE WILL BE VIDEO FROM THE HALLWAYS. HALLWAYS. IN WILL BE — THERE WILL BE — IN WILL BE — THERE WILL BE — I’M SURE THEY’RE ALREADY I’M SURE THEY’RE ALREADY LOOKING — SOMEBODY IS GOING LOOKING — SOMEBODY IS GOING THROUGH WHATEVER VIDEO CAN BE THROUGH WHATEVER VIDEO CAN BE GONE THROUGH. GONE THROUGH. THEY’RE LOOK AT WHO DID EPSTEIN THEY’RE LOOK AT WHO DID EPSTEIN SPEAK TO. SPEAK TO. WHO DID HE HAVE PHONE CALLS WHO DID HE HAVE PHONE CALLS WITH? WITH? WHO DID HE HAVE CONTACT WITH IN WHO DID HE HAVE CONTACT WITH IN THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN HE WAS THE TIME BETWEEN WHEN HE WAS TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH AND TAKEN OFF SUICIDE WATCH AND KILLED HIMSELF PRESUMABLY? KILLED HIMSELF PRESUMABLY? YOU KNOW, EVERY PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, EVERY PERSONNEL, EVERYONE WHO WORKS THERE IS EVERYONE WHO WORKS THERE IS GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED AND GOING TO BE INTERVIEWED AND QUESTIONED SEPARATELY AND QUESTIONED SEPARATELY AND CAREFULLY. CAREFULLY. BUT THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IN MY BUT THE REAL PROBLEM HERE IN MY MIND IS WE NEED ANSWERS AND WE MIND IS WE NEED ANSWERS AND WE NEED BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE NEED BOTH THE PUBLIC AND THE VICTIMS TO TRUST THE ANSWERS VICTIMS TO TRUST THE ANSWERS THAT WE GET. THAT WE GET. AND WITH BILL BARR AT THE HELM AND WITH BILL BARR AT THE HELM AND DOING WHAT HE’S ALREADY AND DOING WHAT HE’S ALREADY DOING, WHICH IS SPINNING THIS, DOING, WHICH IS SPINNING THIS, LIKE HE DID WITH THE MUELLER LIKE HE DID WITH THE MUELLER REPORT, HOW CAN ANYBODY TRUST REPORT, HOW CAN ANYBODY TRUST IT? IT? HE HAD BEEN RECUSED. HE HAD BEEN RECUSED. HE UNRECUSED HIMSELF TO TAKE HE UNRECUSED HIMSELF TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE SOUTHERN RESPONSIBILITY OVER THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT INVESTIGATION. DISTRICT INVESTIGATION. AND NOW HE’S ALREADY DISCLAIMING AND NOW HE’S ALREADY DISCLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY AS YOU SAID. RESPONSIBILITY AS YOU SAID. AND I THINK FOR ANYONE TO HAVE AND I THINK FOR ANYONE TO HAVE FAITH IN WHAT THE FINDINGS ARE, FAITH IN WHAT THE FINDINGS ARE, WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE WHICH ARE SO IMPORTANT TO THE VICTIMS AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM VICTIMS AND THE JUSTICE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE, BILL BARR MUST AS A WHOLE, BILL BARR MUST RECUSE HIMSELF. RECUSE HIMSELF.>>JOHN, THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED>>JOHN, THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL VIEW OF REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL VIEW OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEPARTMENT RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, HEADS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY IF IT’S THE HEAD OF ESPECIALLY IF IT’S THE HEAD OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE THE STATE DEPARTMENT AND THE DEATH OCCURS IN BENGHAZI. DEATH OCCURS IN BENGHAZI. ALL OF THAT WAS BLAMED ON ALL OF THAT WAS BLAMED ON HILLARY CLINTON BY HOUSE HILLARY CLINTON BY HOUSE REPUBLICANS. REPUBLICANS. HERE’S WILLIAM BARR AT THE TOP HERE’S WILLIAM BARR AT THE TOP OF HIS DEPARTMENT. OF HIS DEPARTMENT. BUT THIS LETTER TONIGHT BUT THIS LETTER TONIGHT CO-SIGNED BY THE LEADING CO-SIGNED BY THE LEADING REPUBLICAN ON THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN ON THE HOUSE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS ASKING JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IS ASKING ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS. ALL THE RIGHT QUESTIONS.>>YES.>>YES. DOES THE WORD HYPOCRISY MEAN DOES THE WORD HYPOCRISY MEAN ANYTHING? ANYTHING? THAT’S NOT A NEW THING FOR THIS THAT’S NOT A NEW THING FOR THIS REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THIS AGE OF REPUBLICAN PARTY IN THIS AGE OF DONALD TRUMP TO CAST ASIDE ALL DONALD TRUMP TO CAST ASIDE ALL PRIOR ALLEGED CONVICTIONS OR PRIOR ALLEGED CONVICTIONS OR COMMITMENTS TO HOW COMMITMENTS TO HOW RESPONSIBILITY WORKS, WHERE THE RESPONSIBILITY WORKS, WHERE THE BUCK STOPS IN SITUATIONS LIKE BUCK STOPS IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS. THIS. I THINK IT’S, YOU KNOW — YOU’VE I THINK IT’S, YOU KNOW — YOU’VE SEEN THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE AS SEEN THE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE AS YOU WATCHED BEFORE THE EPSTEIN YOU WATCHED BEFORE THE EPSTEIN EVENT, YOU KNOW, ON FRIDAY YOU EVENT, YOU KNOW, ON FRIDAY YOU HAD THE NAMES OF SOME PROMINENT HAD THE NAMES OF SOME PROMINENT PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPLICATED IN PEOPLE WHO WERE IMPLICATED IN THE EPSTEIN THING. THE EPSTEIN THING. YOU SAW BILL RICHLDSON’S NAME. YOU SAW BILL RICHLDSON’S NAME. YOU SAW GEORGE MITCHELL’S NAME YOU SAW GEORGE MITCHELL’S NAME COME OUT. COME OUT. YOU SAW DONALD TRUMP’S NAME. YOU SAW DONALD TRUMP’S NAME. AND YOU SAW BILL CLINTON’S NAME. AND YOU SAW BILL CLINTON’S NAME. AND YET OVERT WEEKEND YOU HAVE AND YET OVERT WEEKEND YOU HAVE PEOPLE AROUND DONALD TRUMP PEOPLE AROUND DONALD TRUMP BASICALLY POINTING TO BILL BASICALLY POINTING TO BILL CLINTON AS THE PRESIDENT STOKED CLINTON AS THE PRESIDENT STOKED THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY BY THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY BY RETWEETING SOMEONE WHO CLAIMED RETWEETING SOMEONE WHO CLAIMED THAT THIS IS PART OF THE CLINTON THAT THIS IS PART OF THE CLINTON BODY COUNT. BODY COUNT. YET IT IS THE CASE THAT BOTH OF YET IT IS THE CASE THAT BOTH OF THEM ARE — WERE KNOWN THEM ARE — WERE KNOWN HISTORICAL CONSORTS OF JEFFREY HISTORICAL CONSORTS OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS EPSTEIN AND ONLY ONE OF THEM IS THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE THE CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHOSE JUSTICE UNITED STATES WHOSE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RUNS THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT RUNS THE FEDERAL PRISON SYSTEM. PRISON SYSTEM. SO I’M NOT ENDPAJING IN ANY SO I’M NOT ENDPAJING IN ANY CONSPIRACY THEORIES JUST TO SAY CONSPIRACY THEORIES JUST TO SAY IF YOU’RE GOING TO START ASKING IF YOU’RE GOING TO START ASKING ABOUT CULPABILITY AND YOU’RE ABOUT CULPABILITY AND YOU’RE GOING TO START POINT FINGERS THE GOING TO START POINT FINGERS THE PLACE TO START LOOKING IS WITH PLACE TO START LOOKING IS WITH THE GOVERNMENT THAT RUNS THAT THE GOVERNMENT THAT RUNS THAT FACILITY. FACILITY. AND THIS GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO AND THIS GOES ALL THE WAY UP TO THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL, THIS THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL, THIS ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO HAS SHOWN ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO HAS SHOWN OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT HE’S IN OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT HE’S IN THIS GAME FIRST AND FOREMOST TO THIS GAME FIRST AND FOREMOST TO PROTECT DONALD TRUMP ABOVE ALL. PROTECT DONALD TRUMP ABOVE ALL.>>MIMI, TO GO BACK TO YOUR>>MIMI, TO GO BACK TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE BARR POINT ABOUT THE BARR NON-RECUSAL. NON-RECUSAL. BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATIONS IN BECAUSE THE INVESTIGATIONS IN THE SOUTHERN ZRINGT DO CROSS THE SOUTHERN ZRINGT DO CROSS LINES WITH DONALD TRUMP HERE AND LINES WITH DONALD TRUMP HERE AND THERE AND HERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS THERE AND HERE IS SOMEONE WHO IS A FORMER FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP A FORMER FRIEND OF DONALD TRUMP TRUMP’S. TRUMP’S. IRONICALLY, ODDLY, GIVEN HIS IRONICALLY, ODDLY, GIVEN HIS JOB, HIS FIRST JOB IN NEW YORK JOB, HIS FIRST JOB IN NEW YORK AT A PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOL IN NEW AT A PRIVATE HIGH SCHOOL IN NEW YORK BY WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER, YORK BY WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER, WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER AS THE WILLIAM BARR’S FATHER AS THE HEADMASTER OF SCHOOL ACTUALLY HEADMASTER OF SCHOOL ACTUALLY HIRED THIS GUY, THAT’S PLENTY OF HIRED THIS GUY, THAT’S PLENTY OF GROUNDS RIGHT THERE FOR BARR TO GROUNDS RIGHT THERE FOR BARR TO RECUSE HIMSELF. RECUSE HIMSELF. BUT YOU DIDN’T, AS YOU POINTED BUT YOU DIDN’T, AS YOU POINTED OUT IN THIS CASE. OUT IN THIS CASE. WHICH MEANS HE LEFT HIMSELF IN WHICH MEANS HE LEFT HIMSELF IN CHARGE FULLY OF THE CHARGE FULLY OF THE INCARCERATION OF JEFFREY INCARCERATION OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. WHAT EFFORTS DID HE MAKE TO XLNT WHAT EFFORTS DID HE MAKE TO XLNT IMPORTANCE OF THIS PRISONER? IMPORTANCE OF THIS PRISONER?>>EXACTLY.>>EXACTLY. HE’S NOW SAYING IN HIS STATEMENT HE’S NOW SAYING IN HIS STATEMENT TODAY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TODAY THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT CASE. CASE. IF IT WERE THAT IMPORTANT OF A IF IT WERE THAT IMPORTANT OF A CASE, A CASE YOU SAID I’M SO CASE, A CASE YOU SAID I’M SO INVESTED IN THIS CASE AND I’M INVESTED IN THIS CASE AND I’M GOING TO PUT ASIDE THOSE MAYBE GOING TO PUT ASIDE THOSE MAYBE APPARENT CONFLICTS THAT PEOPLE APPARENT CONFLICTS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE ISSUE WITH BECAUSE I MIGHT HAVE ISSUE WITH BECAUSE I WANT TO OVERSEE, IT I WANT TO WANT TO OVERSEE, IT I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT’S DONE RIGHT THIS MAKE SURE IT’S DONE RIGHT THIS TIME AROUND, WELL, THEN YOU TIME AROUND, WELL, THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID FROM THE TOP SHOULD HAVE SAID FROM THE TOP DOWN WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED DOWN WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED TO PROTECT THIS MAN, THE SAME TO PROTECT THIS MAN, THE SAME WAY THEY DID WITH EL CHAPO, WAY THEY DID WITH EL CHAPO, RIGHT? RIGHT? IT’S NOT LIKE THEY AREN’T IT’S NOT LIKE THEY AREN’T CAPABLE OF DOING IT. CAPABLE OF DOING IT. WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED I WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU NEED I WILL GET YOU. WILL GET YOU. I’M NOT SAYING THERE AREN’T I’M NOT SAYING THERE AREN’T SYSTEMATIC PROBLEMS ON A SYSTEMATIC PROBLEMS ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN THE MCC, DAY-TO-DAY BASIS IN THE MCC, OTHER PRISON THAT’S MAYBE WILL OTHER PRISON THAT’S MAYBE WILL COME TO LIGHT AS A RESULT OF COME TO LIGHT AS A RESULT OF THIS AND BE ADDRESSED BUT HE THIS AND BE ADDRESSED BUT HE COULD HAVE REACHED OUT, HE COULD HAVE REACHED OUT, HE SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUT, SHOULD HAVE REACHED OUT, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HIS POSITION, ESPECIALLY GIVEN HIS POSITION, AND SAID I AM GIVING YOU THE AND SAID I AM GIVING YOU THE RESOURCES YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE RESOURCES YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE JEFFREY EPSTEIN GOES TO TRIAL JEFFREY EPSTEIN GOES TO TRIAL AND SEES THAT DAY OF TRIAL. AND SEES THAT DAY OF TRIAL.>>AND SO JOHN, AS MIMI SAID IN>>AND SO JOHN, AS MIMI SAID IN HER FIRST STATEMENT TONIGHT, HER FIRST STATEMENT TONIGHT, WILLIAM BARR IS ALREADY SPINNING WILLIAM BARR IS ALREADY SPINNING THIS. THIS. HE GOES OUT THERE TODAY AND GOES HE GOES OUT THERE TODAY AND GOES WAY BEYOND ANYTHING WE KNOW IN WAY BEYOND ANYTHING WE KNOW IN THE NEWS REPORTS AND SAYS THE NEWS REPORTS AND SAYS SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES IN THIS SERIOUS IRREGULARITIES IN THIS FACILITY WHICH HE SUPERVISES, FACILITY WHICH HE SUPERVISES, WHICH IS UNDER HIS JURISDICTION. WHICH IS UNDER HIS JURISDICTION. AND THAT AGAIN IS WILLIAM BARR AND THAT AGAIN IS WILLIAM BARR STEPPING OUT AHEAD OF WHAT WE STEPPING OUT AHEAD OF WHAT WE KNOW BEFORE WE’RE ALLOWED TO KNOW BEFORE WE’RE ALLOWED TO KNOW. KNOW. AND THEN NOT GIVING US ANY HINT AND THEN NOT GIVING US ANY HINT OF WHAT AN IRREGULARITY IS. OF WHAT AN IRREGULARITY IS.>>WE’VE SEEN BILL BARR DO THIS>>WE’VE SEEN BILL BARR DO THIS BEFORE, STEP OUT AHEAD OF BEFORE, STEP OUT AHEAD OF EVERYTHING WE KNOW AND CAST EVERYTHING WE KNOW AND CAST EVENTS IN A CERTAIN WAY. EVENTS IN A CERTAIN WAY. SPIN THEM IN A CERTAIN WAY. SPIN THEM IN A CERTAIN WAY. IT’S PART OF THE TROUBLING IT’S PART OF THE TROUBLING PATTERN I THINK ON THE PART FRT PATTERN I THINK ON THE PART FRT ATTORNEY GENERAL. ATTORNEY GENERAL. AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE AND I WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON’T KNOW WHEN HE SAYS THERE DON’T KNOW WHEN HE SAYS THERE ARE TROUBLING IRREGULARITIES, WE ARE TROUBLING IRREGULARITIES, WE DO NOT KNOW IF HE’S TALKING DO NOT KNOW IF HE’S TALKING HIFSHLTH HIFSHLTH HISTORICALLY. HISTORICALLY. WE DON’T KNOW IF HE’S TROEFRG WE DON’T KNOW IF HE’S TROEFRG THIS CASE. THIS CASE. THERE CLEARLY ARE IRREGULARITIES THERE CLEARLY ARE IRREGULARITIES WITH RESPECT TO THIS CASE. WITH RESPECT TO THIS CASE. THE QUESTION IS IF HE’S CASTING THE QUESTION IS IF HE’S CASTING AN ASPERSION THAT HE’S TRYING TO AN ASPERSION THAT HE’S TRYING TO CLAIM THESE PROBLEMS ARE CLAIM THESE PROBLEMS ARE SYSTEMIC AND HAVE GONE ON FOR SYSTEMIC AND HAVE GONE ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND SO TALTH YEARS AND YEARS AND SO TALTH HAPPENED ON MY WATCH I CAN’T BE HAPPENED ON MY WATCH I CAN’T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEMS THAT RESPONSIBLE FOR PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN FESTERING IN THIS HAVE BEEN FESTERING IN THIS PRISON FOR MANY DECADES. PRISON FOR MANY DECADES. WE’LL SEE IF THAT’S WHERE HE GO WE’LL SEE IF THAT’S WHERE HE GO BUT DON’T BE SURPRISEED IF THAT BUT DON’T BE SURPRISEED IF THAT IS WHERE WE GO. IS WHERE WE GO.>>MIMI, “NEW YORK TIMES”>>MIMI, “NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTING THAT THIS MEANS THAT REPORTING THAT THIS MEANS THAT PROSECUTORS WILL PROBABLY START PROSECUTORS WILL PROBABLY START CONCENTRATING MORE HEAVILY ON CONCENTRATING MORE HEAVILY ON THE FINANCIAL LIFE OF JEFFREY THE FINANCIAL LIFE OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN SINCE THEY CAN’T EPSTEIN SINCE THEY CAN’T PROSECUTE ANY OF THESE CRIMINAL PROSECUTE ANY OF THESE CRIMINAL CASES AGAINST HIM. CASES AGAINST HIM. WE HAVE ANOTHER REPORT IN THE WE HAVE ANOTHER REPORT IN THE “NEW YORK TIMES” TONIGHT FROM “NEW YORK TIMES” TONIGHT FROM JAMES STEWART. JAMES STEWART. HE REPORTS OF AN INTERVIEW HE HE REPORTS OF AN INTERVIEW HE HAD WITH EPSTEIN LAST YEAR WHERE HAD WITH EPSTEIN LAST YEAR WHERE EPSTEIN POINTS TO A PICTURE EPSTEIN POINTS TO A PICTURE SAYING THAT’S MBS, REFERRING TO SAYING THAT’S MBS, REFERRING TO MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN, THE CROWN MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN, THE CROWN PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA. PRINCE OF SAUDI ARABIA. THE CROWN PRINCE HAD VISITED HIM THE CROWN PRINCE HAD VISITED HIM MANY TIMES AND THEY SPOKE OFTEN, MANY TIMES AND THEY SPOKE OFTEN, MR. EPSTEIN SAID. MR. EPSTEIN SAID. MIMI, IF THAT’S TRUE, THAT’S MIMI, IF THAT’S TRUE, THAT’S JUST ONE INDICATOR OF THE KINDS JUST ONE INDICATOR OF THE KINDS OF PEOPLE WHO MAY BE EXPOSED IN OF PEOPLE WHO MAY BE EXPOSED IN THE CONTINUING OF THIS THE CONTINUING OF THIS INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. LOOK, THE FACT THAT JOFFREY LOOK, THE FACT THAT JOFFREY BERMAN PUT OUT A STATEMENT ON BERMAN PUT OUT A STATEMENT ON SATURDAY, THAT’S UNUSUAL FOR SATURDAY, THAT’S UNUSUAL FOR THEM TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT AT THEM TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT AT ALL ABOUT A CASE SO QUICKLY OVER ALL ABOUT A CASE SO QUICKLY OVER A WEEKEND, AND THE FACT THAT HE A WEEKEND, AND THE FACT THAT HE MADE THAT POINT ABOUT THERE MADE THAT POINT ABOUT THERE BEING A CONSPIRACY AND WE’RE BEING A CONSPIRACY AND WE’RE GOING TO CONTINUE INVESTIGATING GOING TO CONTINUE INVESTIGATING AND WE WANT VICTIMS TO COME AND WE WANT VICTIMS TO COME FORWARD, I DON’T THINK HE WOULD FORWARD, I DON’T THINK HE WOULD HAVE DONE THAT IF THERE WERE HAVE DONE THAT IF THERE WERE JUST SORT OF LET’S THROW IT UP JUST SORT OF LET’S THROW IT UP AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. THAT WOULD BE PRETTY RISKY ON THAT WOULD BE PRETTY RISKY ON HIS PART. HIS PART. THEY CLEARLY HAVE ALREADY I THEY CLEARLY HAVE ALREADY I THINK SOME IDEA WHERE THIS IS THINK SOME IDEA WHERE THIS IS GOING IN TERMS OF GOING IN TERMS OF CO-CONSPIRATORS. CO-CONSPIRATORS. WHETHER THAT TURNS OUT TO BE WHETHER THAT TURNS OUT TO BE GHISLAINE — I CAN’T PRONOUNCE GHISLAINE — I CAN’T PRONOUNCE HER NAME. HER NAME. MAXWELL MAXWELL MAXWELL MAXWELL MAXWELL. MAXWELL. AND OTHER MORE HIGH-PROFILE AND OTHER MORE HIGH-PROFILE PEOPLE I DON’T KNOW. PEOPLE I DON’T KNOW. BUT THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP BUT THEY ARE GOING TO KEEP PURSUING THIS I THINK CRIMINALLY PURSUING THIS I THINK CRIMINALLY AND CIVILLY IN TERMS OF AND CIVILLY IN TERMS OF FORFEITURE OF HIS ASSETS. FORFEITURE OF HIS ASSETS.>>THE U.S. ATTORNEY SAID TO>>THE U.S. ATTORNEY SAID TO MIMI’S POINT ON SATURDAY O’”TO MIMI’S POINT ON SATURDAY O’”TO THOSE BRAVE YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE THOSE BRAVE YOUNG WOMEN WHO HAVE ALREADY COME FORWARD AND TO THE ALREADY COME FORWARD AND TO THE MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE YET TO DO MANY OTHERS WHO HAVE YET TO DO SO, LET ME REITERATE THAT WE SO, LET ME REITERATE THAT WE REMAIN COMMITTED TO STANDING FOR REMAIN COMMITTED TO STANDING FOR YOU IN OUR INVESTIGATION OF THE YOU IN OUR INVESTIGATION OF THE INVESTIGATION OF THE CONDUCT INVESTIGATION OF THE CONDUCT CHARGED IN THE INDICTMENT, WHICH CHARGED IN THE INDICTMENT, WHICH INCLUDED A CONSPIRACY COUNT, INCLUDED A CONSPIRACY COUNT, REMAINS ONGOING.” REMAINS ONGOING.” SO JOHN, THAT’S THE ESSENCE OF SO JOHN, THAT’S THE ESSENCE OF WHAT WE KNOW CONTINUES. WHAT WE KNOW CONTINUES.>>CONSPIRACIES ARE RARELY>>CONSPIRACIES ARE RARELY CONDUCT ADD LOAN. CONDUCT ADD LOAN. CONSPIRACIES USUALLY INVOLVE CONSPIRACIES USUALLY INVOLVE CO-CONSPIRATORS, AND WE HAVE CO-CONSPIRATORS, AND WE HAVE SOME IDEA ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO SOME IDEA ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE CLOSE TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. WERE CLOSE TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN. MISS MAXWELL IS ONE OF THE MISS MAXWELL IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE POINTED TO FREQUENTLY. PEOPLE POINTED TO FREQUENTLY. IT IS THE CASE NOT BEING A IT IS THE CASE NOT BEING A LAWYER BUT HAVING LISTENED TO A LAWYER BUT HAVING LISTENED TO A LOT OF SMART LAWYERS OVER THE LOT OF SMART LAWYERS OVER THE WEEKEND THAT THE ONE POSITIVE WEEKEND THAT THE ONE POSITIVE ELEMENT OF THEN TIRE THING AND ELEMENT OF THEN TIRE THING AND THERE ARE REALLY — IT’S THERE ARE REALLY — IT’S OBVIOUSLY A REALLY DARK FURNISH OBVIOUSLY A REALLY DARK FURNISH OF EVENTS. OF EVENTS. BUT THE NOTION THAT THERE WILL BUT THE NOTION THAT THERE WILL NO LONGER BE STANDING OR THE NO LONGER BE STANDING OR THE ABILITY TO CHALLENGE THE ABILITY TO CHALLENGE THE SEARCHES OF ALL OF GEOFFREY SEARCHES OF ALL OF GEOFFREY EPSTEIN’S PROPERTIES, OF ALL OF EPSTEIN’S PROPERTIES, OF ALL OF HIS BANK RECORDS, THAT HE WON’T HIS BANK RECORDS, THAT HE WON’T HAVE LAWYERS WHO HAVE STABBEDING HAVE LAWYERS WHO HAVE STABBEDING ING ING STANDING TO FIGHT, SO IF THERE STANDING TO FIGHT, SO IF THERE ARE CASES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT ARE CASES THAT WILL BE BROUGHT AGAINST CO-CONSPIRATORS IT AGAINST CO-CONSPIRATORS IT SHOULD BE FOR A COMMITTED SET OF SHOULD BE FOR A COMMITTED SET OF PROSECUTORS EASIER TO GET PROSECUTORS EASIER TO GET EVIDENCE OF THAT CONSPIRACY THAN EVIDENCE OF THAT CONSPIRACY THAN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN PREVIOUSLY WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S LAWYERS FIGHTING AT EVERY TURN. FIGHTING AT EVERY TURN. AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE AND THAT WILL BE ONE OF THE TESTS OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS TESTS OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS INVESTIGATION IS SERIOUS OR NOT. INVESTIGATION IS SERIOUS OR NOT. ARE WE NOW GOING TO SEE ARE WE NOW GOING TO SEE PROSECUTORS OR INVESTIGATORS PROSECUTORS OR INVESTIGATORS JUST RANSACKING EVERY L JEFFREY JUST RANSACKING EVERY L JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S LIFE IN ORDER TO TRY EPSTEIN’S LIFE IN ORDER TO TRY TO FIND WHATEVER EVIDENCE EXISTS TO FIND WHATEVER EVIDENCE EXISTS OF ANYONE WHO IS COMPLICIT OF ANYONE WHO IS COMPLICIT WHETHER THEY’RE A CO-CONSPIRATOR WHETHER THEY’RE A CO-CONSPIRATOR OR JUST COMPLICIT IN THIS OR JUST COMPLICIT IN THIS BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE VICTIMS ARE OWED. THE VICTIMS ARE OWED.>>MIMI, ARE WE GOING TO KNOW>>MIMI, ARE WE GOING TO KNOW HOW JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED AND WHY HOW JEFFREY EPSTEIN DIED AND WHY HE DIED AND WHO’S RESPONSIBLE? HE DIED AND WHO’S RESPONSIBLE?>>WELL, LOOK, THE INSPECTOR>>WELL, LOOK, THE INSPECTOR GENERAL’S REPORT I THINK THEY GENERAL’S REPORT I THINK THEY GENERALLY MAKE THEIR FINDINGS GENERALLY MAKE THEIR FINDINGS PUBLIC. PUBLIC. AND HER REASONABLY INDEPENDENT AND HER REASONABLY INDEPENDENT FROM BILL BARR ALTHOUGH PART OF FROM BILL BARR ALTHOUGH PART OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD CHANCE OF KNOWING THAT. KNOWING THAT. THE FBI INVESTIGATION — AND BY THE FBI INVESTIGATION — AND BY THE WAY, I’M NOT CASTING THE WAY, I’M NOT CASTING ASPERSIONS ON THE FBI AGENTS ASPERSIONS ON THE FBI AGENTS THEMSELVES. THEMSELVES. THIS IS ABOUT BARR OVERSEEING THIS IS ABOUT BARR OVERSEEING IT. IT. THAT IF IT’S A CRIMINAL THAT IF IT’S A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION WE WOULD ONLY KNOW INVESTIGATION WE WOULD ONLY KNOW ABOUT IF THEY BROUGHT CRIMINAL ABOUT IF THEY BROUGHT CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST SOMEONE. CHARGES AGAINST SOMEONE. AND I THINK IT’S JUST TOO EARLY AND I THINK IT’S JUST TOO EARLY TO SAY THAT. TO SAY THAT. I THINK ALSO THROUGH HOUSE I THINK ALSO THROUGH HOUSE OVERSIGHT WE WILL GET SOME OVERSIGHT WE WILL GET SOME ANSWERS. ANSWERS. SO YES, I THINK WE WILL GET THE SO YES, I THINK WE WILL GET THE ANSWERS. ANSWERS. I THINK IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO I THINK IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN PEOPLE WANT, TAKE LONGER THAN PEOPLE WANT, WHICH IS WHY BILL BARR SHOULD WHICH IS WHY BILL BARR SHOULD NOT BE DOING WHAT HE’S DOING NOT BE DOING WHAT HE’S DOING ALREADY, WHICH IS PUTTING OUT A ALREADY, WHICH IS PUTTING OUT A FEW LITTLE SELECT CRYPTIC FACTS FEW LITTLE SELECT CRYPTIC FACTS WITH HIS SPIN ON IT.

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  1. MSNBC IS UP TO THEIR LYING, DISINGENIOUS PROPAGANDA AGAIN. LOOK AT HOW THIS CORRUPT COMMENTATOR TRIES TO SPIN FAKE INFORMATION INTO MAKING IT LOOK AS IF PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH SCUM LIKE EPSTEIN. WE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEAL IN TRUTH AND FACTS . GIVE IT UP DUMMYCRATS WE CAN SEE RIGHT THRU YOUR CRAP REPORTING. RE -ELECT PRESIDENT TRUMP IN 2020 FOR TRANSPARENCY AND HONESTY. LET'S KEEP DRAINING THE SWAMP AND FAKE NEWS EVERYONE.

  2. I have often wondered what Barr's motivation has been to be the bagman to cover up political crimes. Does he hate this country? Is Putin paying him? Is he the Epstein of government corruption? Has he taken on jobs, saved conversations etc so he can extort people like Trump? Why is he so brazenly thumbing his nose at our country and its rule of law?

  3. Yeah, right Epstein killed himself. I'm not buying it. Someone told Epstein he was going to be swimming with the fishes. Absolutely incredible.

  4. Yes Bill, blame everyone and take no responsibility, it fits your slimy low but obviously corrupt tenure in Trump’s circus. By the way Bill Barr, does your head have its own moon?

  5. Slick Willy Barr is a LIAR. He thinks of himself as a brilliant lawyer but he is really just a piece of garbage that betrayed the United States during the Iran Contra scandal as he did with the Mueller report. That is what Barr is…a liar and a cover up artist. Barr will be held to account with his boss Adolph Donald Twitler.

  6. JUST '' ANOTHER'' FAKE NEWS STORY..WHAT A SCAM TO AMERICA…WE ARE SOOO SICK OF YOU'RE DISGUSTING BEHAVIOR TO ''OUR'' COUNTRY. YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOU'RE DISGRACFUL ACTIONS AND BEHAVIOR.

  7. Just read a post on another channel. Some raving lunitics saying Epstein didn't exist just a made up man. Most of the post was so bad as to be unreadable but the gist was the mass shootings, market crass, Epstein was all so Trump could look bad. I am telling you folk THEY are crazy.

  8. Hugh Hurwitz, if you are listening, AG Fred Flintstone is landing the plane on your head.Start updating your CV

  9. –HE"S bashing CITIES IN RALLY! WHY? HE knows those cities are not TO BACK SUSHI A CRAZY SIMPATICO! HITLER WANT A BE!! HE'S AMBITION FOLLOW THE MODEL! HE'S ADMIRING! A NORTH COREA DICTATOR! THAT: HE"S MODEL ON A GOVERNMENT IDEAL! AS HE WANT TO DO! HERE IN OUR USA! – JUST IMAGEN THAT DICTATOR! GOVERNING "AMERICA" CAN YOU?—-IF THERE IS NOT OTHER CHOICE!! YEST DON'T!!! DON'T!!! DON'T!!!! VOTE!! DON'E VOTE!! DON'T UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE DON'T VOTE!—–TRUMP & BARR! BARR! WERE FULLY RESPONSIBLE ON THE INCARCERATION ON JEFFREY EPSTEIN! SO HE IS TO SOLE RESPONSIBLE ON THE ""SUICIDE"" OR KEELING OF JEFFREY> WHAT ABOUT THE SECRET VISIT WILLIAM BARR DO! ON JAIL TO JEFFREY EPSTEIN?????

  10. WARNING: The CONTROL GROUP that dominates the Mainstream Media is largely related to the CONTROL GROUP that dominates the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. If it looks like Trump is going to win 2020, these two control groups could very easily CONSPIRE to crash the economy. If the economy is crashed, stupid and ignorant votors in Trump's base could defect. If, on the other hand, voters in Trump's base are well aware of this possible conspiracy, Trump's re-election will be assured. So spread this message and watch this movie: https://youtu.be/evYyDsmSzdo The Mainstream Media only "hates" conspiracy theories because it is THEY who most PROFIT from them.

  11. MAKING A GREAT BUSINESSES IN THE PRESIDENCY SINCE BEFORE AND AND DURING And AFTER! THE ELECTIONS!! SO IT HAS BEEN CONSTANTLY!! A BUSINESS AFTER BUSINESS IN ALL HE CAN EXCHANGE FOR FAMILY DOLLARS AND POWER!!——–the USA is full on government traitor! to our country! !! Binning wit Trump! ( MOCU_MITCH)Mitch Mc Connell and LINDSEY GRAHAM! baking Trump insulting all races! except he"s own! And the other traitors! Baking what he's saying KEEPING SILENT!!! Trump fells he"s German! Or Northern Europeans Descendant???? Trump want to do! as HITLER ! WANT A BE! HITLER RAZE! FEELS HE"S RACE WERE SUPERIOR TO OTHER AS TRUMP! THINK HE"S!—-ALL RACIST TOO! A DODGE MILITARY DRAFTER! (DONALD TRUMP) UNPATRIOTIC! PATRIOT BETRAYER! SELLING AMERICA IN DIFFERENT WELL KNOWN WAYS! TO THE BEST POSTER! NAMELY AMERICA"S ENEMIES! LIKE NORTH COREA! BUT THE AMERICA MOST DANGER ENEMY! PUTIN"S RUSSIA! HE'S ACCUSING ONE OF THO MOST WELL KNOWN! AND ALWAYS PATRIOTIC! BEHAVIOR THE AMERICAN NEW YORK TIMES ! NEWS PAPER ! prove their Patriotism! for many year

  12. If Republicans are investigating any possible ties between Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein it’s probably to bury it.

  13. What do you mean Former, how convenient. Epstein turned Trump on to his first Virgin 13 yr old child. Hear it from the girl herself now an Adult. www.justiceforkatie.com 3rd screen down have a listen to her and read for yourself.

  14. The negativity of this station is palpable. Every time I try to watch it I have to change. If they can't blame the president then there is no other explanation.

  15. It happened on orders from Trump to Barr. We all know Epstein was Trumps boy when it came to supplying Trump with 13 yr old Female Children who looked like his Daughter.

  16. Epstein had some scandal about this so called leader, and he all of a sudden was put to sleep. By mysterious reasons.Trump assuming it was Clinton did this, but is he using this theory to throw the shade off hisself.

  17. You can no longer trust American institutions ,justice , epa fda, agriculture , immigration , …..Supreme Court, ,thank you donnie

  18. Barr had Epstein killed! Barr was in charge and his father and Trump were involved with Epstein! We the public are not stupid! Too many irregularities in the guards getting lost conveniently and broken neck! Sheets have been reported as paper there! He did not commit suicide! Now his FBI raise the island and Barr get to get rid of evidence! No cameras??? This is something Trump and Barr and the others famous pedophiles would get murder for hire their Russia connected friend Erik Princes organization to take of Epstein! Barr went before the American people and lied about the Mueller report he is lying again here! Be needs to be arrested for contempt of Congress and kept away from everything on this case! This Barr is a criminal! His father was involved with Epstein and he had good reason to set this murder up and threaten the ME!

  19. Melanie trump sold girls to Epstein and also Steve Bannon infected with his DISEASED gonorrhea and syphilis the got from his prostitution he's in Europe getting treat

  20. Trump said he was not a fan but trump is like Satan if you turn your back on him he go against you or when you get in trouble he don't know you you have to turn back to God

  21. Can these two Mafiosos be stopped? Can't congress do anything about these criminals? We will never get any crimes solved with barr and trump n everything. I think , America, we are royally screwed.

  22. Hang them all. Civilized people dont behave like that. They dont deserve to dirty up these beautiful world.
    Give them what the deserve

  23. Did Epstein fake the earlier suicide attempt to get on suicide watch to protect himself from an 'assisted' suicide?

  24. Makes me SICK! 🤮 All the Born-Agains, a Fad that started in 1980's – NOW saying EPSTEIN in 30 seconds said a Prayer
    and he is Now SAVED & in Heaven!

  25. If there was a psychologist involved with Epstein's care, you can best believe that that was the extent of it: Involvement. Actual and ultimate responsibility FOR Epstein's care inescapably resides primarily with custody staff. They get the credit. They get the blame.

    I take some exception to the wording in this report that tends to suggest something different with respect to the participation of mental health professionals in this debacle. There is certainly enough blame to go around. Just, don't forget who is really in charge, has the power and authority, and will ALWAYS be ultimately responsible no matter who else also might be 'involved'.

  26. Stop Jawing, you sound ridiculous. There is NO WAY Epstein was going to trial. He was a dead man as soon as he was arrested. Just imagine the plea deal this man could have made.

  27. MR. BAR WENT SECRETLY! TO VISIT JEFFREY EPSTEIN IN JAIL! WHAT FOR?? AN WHY SECRETLY??–THIS WERE VERY ESTRANGE! WHAT FOR HE WENT THERE SECRETLY????

  28. -MR. BARR WENT SECRETLY! TO VISIT JEFFREY EPSTEIN IN JAIL! WHAT FOR?? AN WHY SECRETLY??–THIS WERE VERY ESTRANGE! WHAT FOR HE WENT THERE SECRETLY????

  29. What a horribly tragic embarrassment our administration has become. The Pig is impeachable on basis of incompetence.

  30. Obviously you don't know there is no privacy in a cell and camera can and are present. da you are on camera you are in prison. I suspect that the cameras were turned off for a reason. and there is no video

  31. Why isn't anyone asking what the Russians were aiming at with that nuclear powered ballistic missile?
    That reactor power would equip it for a very distant west coast target if it travelled over the North Pole.
    It blew up on the coast of the White Sea near Finland.

  32. I think Barr is strong enough to break a neck! or at least he brought the money for the person who did it! TRUMP had JEFF killed and anybody who think otherwise — Please go to FOX news FAIR and ????? There is a camera every where and when you walk in you are on camera. This is a failed take over of a country by PUTIN all we have to do is get rid of trump and his crime family and cohorts!

  33. Here we go again, junk news and "get Trump" syndrome. Ignore the facts of Clinton's association, MSNBC should be seeking the truth to find true justice, but nooo, …. raping children is not as important as "get Trump", disgraceful.

  34. Investigation of william barr!! Investigate everything about him. He probably got epstein killed America is paying close attention and America is aware of this cover up and trump barr and the rest of them is not fooling no one. Investigat william barr. He has to reacuse himself. You cant act like you had no idea what happen if your are the top person in charge. Investigation of william barr he is like Acosta. We shouldn't allow higher ups who seem to hide the truth and cover things up to handle situations like this

  35. Guess you folks aren't fans of President Trump. Great hit piece you did. Your anti Republican bias is transparent. I suppose you have listeners, but I won't be listening to your brand of slanted journalism again. Takes a lot of brass, but you people are apparently shameless.

  36. The Dude NEVER worked, knew or had training on running a Prison??? This Guy…..I thought he hired the Best??? Jeff Epstein was The Token–Expendable!!

  37. I love the comments below…….the stupidity that is represented by democrats is stunning……
    Liberal democrats are far too ignorant to even be allowed to have an opinion…..
    They want gun control………!!! We need stupidity control forced upon liberals……..

  38. Epstein was unqualified to teach at the Dalton School yet Barr's father hired him.
    Barr, Sr. was later forced out.

    Epstein was dismissed by Barr, Sr.'s replacement.

    Epstein procured women from eastern Europe for wealthy men in the US. Epstein supposedly "introduced" the 21 year old, nude "model" Melania to Trump.

    Barr, Jr. was involved in getting the infamous lenient sentence in 2008.
    Predictably, Barr, Jr., now the Attorney General, has declared Epstein's death a suicide.

    Sorry, but no: Epstein was silenced.
    Barr and Trump played a role in this.

  39. People on the right point the finger at the Clintons. People on the left point at trump. Independents like me point the finger at both of them but also understand trump's lap dog Barr is in control of the DOJ and trump is directly related to the Epstein case so hmm 🤔🤔🤔.

  40. Trust n believe they have KNOWLEDGE of the DEATH OF Epstein!!! They were scared to death what he KNEW n might say n had them scared, that’s why that bas**rd, fRump keeps pushing Clintons’ name in reference to Epstein. Lock Barr azz UP n get him out of there LIKE YESTERDAY!!!

  41. This whole thing is just so wrong! ——-Everything about this is wrong!! ————-I don't trust Barr at all. ——————————-WolfSky9, 72 y/o

  42. Most important, who ever did this deed gave Creator's judgment. He died in pain, terror, knowing for a little time that he was dying. As his brain was dying, being starved of oxygen, he had great pain. He died appropriately,

  43. Look beyond the question of how Epstein died, folks. The blame will be laid at the door of the BofP, and used as an excuse to turn that over to a private corporation. Watch for GEO or CXW stock to rally.

  44. Call it out Laurence that is what they do, That evil WICKED Barr will blame the gards or the doctor's , I do not think the Congress should take Barr's word or are lieing so called president. Now we just finding out the truth mr.epstean introduce Trump to the 1st lady lol this is funny. So the 1st lady speaks 5 different languages lol but. Cant speak English fluently , right lol and im sure she did say she was a underwear model but the man who owns Victoria secret gave this man power of attorney, lol , WOWY this is unraveling right before are eyes, omg s… has hit the fan lol i can't stop lol this is to funny, is this craziness real, now Laurence do not let that news room try and jave you spin it differently I watch you every night I need the truth and I already see your leaving out serten thing's..just saying..✌❤ keep it 💯

  45. Show of hands. Will Fred Fintstone recuse himself from Epstein Investigation ? No. Are AHOTUS and Fred conspiring to bury the Investigation. Yes. Will Hugh Hurwitz take the fall. Double Yes

  46. Please Get it right wasn’t suicide he was murdered wake up people were sure that naive or gullible
    Barr will cover up this murder to protect trump !

  47. Correction: there will be no answers to this mystery.
    Just like every other crime perpetrated by the Trump crime syndicate, this event will get swept under the rug and ignored until some other Trump fiasco takes its place.

  48. Barr is doing his job and isnt spinning anything—that offends them. I can see why this Mimi chick was fired. Barr's father having admininistered the school where Epstein worked forty years ago is NOT grounds for Barr recusing himself. And I think Heilmann, O'Donnell, and the jittery needlenosed blond know this.
    O'Donnell, a Harvard guy, has already given suspected pedophile Dershowitz airtime to vent and there are reasons he would seek to protect other Harvard faculty with Epstein connections e.g. the archatheists Pinker and Krauss. O'Donnell himself is an hysteric antiTrump bigot.

  49. Dont try to make President Trump „ Friend „ of jeff Epstein …just because of one sentence President describes this criminal as a nice guy. Why , Epstein was well known to a Lots of wealthy people. President TRUMP was one to coordinator of peagents, young models. You are obnoctious fakes to spread dirt on our President .

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