Heather Mac Donald on Victim Mentality, Identity Politics & President Trump’s Baltimore Tweets

Heather Mac Donald on Victim Mentality, Identity Politics & President Trump’s Baltimore Tweets

what is the world view driving some people to call President Trump's tweets about congressman Elijah Cummings and Baltimore racist and why are they downplaying some of the factual realities described in Trump's tweets how in the view of Heather McDonald do victim mentality intersectionality and identity politics threaten American culture and prosperity and what are the root causes of socio-economic disparities in America and solutions to what she sees as the deep-seated corruption of education and culture today this is American thought leaders and I'm Janiak Alec today we sit down with Manhattan Institute Fellow Heather McDonald who is a contributing editor to city journal an author of the diversity delusion how race and gender pandering corrupt the university and undermine our culture we discussed Trump's unique approach to identity politics and what McDonald describes as the myths of institutional racism and sexism in America the Ferguson effect affirmative action and the proliferation of hatred and public discourse today Heather McDonald it's wonderful to have you on American thought-leaders it's an honor Jan thank you for having me on this is a pleasure it's almost like nothing in society escapes identity politics these days this is something that's you know very stark in my mind I wanted to look at a few kind of current events a few things that are currently happening and just kind of get your perspective on them the most recent one being you know a trump tweet of course we have to start with the truck tweet talking to representative Cummings about Baltimore being you know disgusting rat and rodent infested and the response immediately being this is the most racist thing ever basically in it I even saw nazi-like language referenced and so forth what do you make of this well the the charge of racism today is basically tantamount to saying I got nothing I can't make an argument okay it is it is the all-purpose response to try and shut down evidence that you don't like but it is becoming a almost a mode of hysteria on the part of the Democratic left at this point where every presidential candidate in the Democratic field is struggling mightily to show that he is the most sensitive to this alleged systemic American racism Trump has his major failings but it is tonic that he seems completely oblivious to the racism charge what he was saying is of course factually demonstrably provable and if you if you take it out of a in any other environment the people themselves in Baltimore admit they've not been able to get a handle on the crime problem you have these insane drive-by shootings that are taking lives by the weekend the mayors have one effort after another to try and bring peace it doesn't work so when Trump is pointing out that this is a failed city he's absolutely correct but to then simply say that's simply racist is to say I'm refusing to argue on the facts and and it is becoming the case at this point that anyone who is black has an automatic shield of immunity you cannot do anything to that black person you know the another of the Democratic contenders Pete but eject from South Bend Indiana there was a police shooting there that frankly to me does not look like a bad shooting the man there's been a 911 call to the police as a car thief suspect the guy was trying to get into cars and he he had a an 8-inch gun that he raised over his head at the officer he was shot fatally all of a sudden this becomes a race incident one of the things that has been used against but a Jag against by his Democratic opponents is that he fired a black police chief he did but jag did so on perfectly valid grounds he was worried about the Chiefs management style his honesty but instead because the chief was black he has a shield of immunity and it is assumed that it is racist to fire him this is a very dangerous place to be in in our society it means that you no longer have a single standard of justice of competence of merit but inevitably have have at least two standards if not many more given the rapid fissuring of the various identity categories that go into this ruthlessly competitive totem pole of intersectional victimhood hether so many things to unpackage from what you just said why don't we start with this you mentioned alleged systemic racism huh I'm telling me more well that I think is the defining issue of our time which is how do we explain our current reality at present the Left dominates the narrative and it argues that ongoing socio-economic disparities in the United States are by definition a result of a panoply of bigotry the primary one being race-based bigotry I would say the fundamental divide in a sort of philosophical way between liberals and conservatives is that liberals will only accept structural explanations for disparities that is well the the the society is structured in such a way that it is impossible for people in official victim groups to succeed what is taboo in liberal discourse is to talk about behavior and individual choices a conservative will look at the world and say but I see very vast behavioral disparities right that are in my view far more powerful as explanations of socio-economic disparities when you have tragically an out of wedlock birthrate in the black community of 73 percent that means that 73 percent of black children are being raised by single mothers that is a social catastrophe of a civilization crushing magnitude other behavioral choices that people are making not going to school being truant not studying not taking your textbooks home not paying attention your teacher getting involved in gangs those are vast behavioral disparities that to me are much more important nevertheless the left's narrative that everything is explained by systemic bias is winning and as long as they win on that explanation they are going to control politics and the culture from here on out so I think one of the most important things that conservatives need to do to reclaim the discourse and reclaim some honesty and our ability to accurately analyze the problems America faces is to be able to talk about behavior and not just sweep everything under this this relatively frankly meaningless umbrella term of well it must be systemic racism you can't see it but you look at the outcomes and the only allowable explanation is systemic racism it seems so bizarre to me that we could be in a place where you there's just a blanket charge that can be made just as it as we described in this case to end this course and this is somehow normal in our society how did we get here oh boy that's a tough question obviously we America has a very problematic history when it comes to race we betrayed our founding principles for decades and decades in the most brutal and unthinking way you know you look back and you you ask yourself how did people not see the glaring grotesque contradiction between our founding ideals and the way we determine eyes blacks and and refused to have equal protection under the laws that's very real I would say today that is simply not the problem I think as as hard it is to believe given the deep roots of racism in American society I think we have done a hundred and eighty degree turn I do not know a single mainstream institution whether it's a law firm a bank a corporation a university a foundation a government a newspaper a cable channel a network a publishing house that is not obsessed with diversity that is not made at it as its primary goal hiring and promoting as many people of color as possible if you want to be applying to Harvard today you don't want to be a white male you want to be a person of color that is going to increase your chances four times but I think White's now there's a long guilt and and now it's be it's it's even beyond racial guilt it is that somehow the anti racism has become a sort of national religion and the people who profess it the college presidents who stand up there and preposterous lis claim that they are presiding over a racist institution this is something that is so absurd there never been a more liberal compassionate institution in human history than a college American College today which actively celebrates those very same traits that are still the subject of stoning and Civil War and hatred and murder elsewhere in the world and certainly were so throughout history for a president like the Yale's president Peter Salovey to get up there and say Yale is a racist institution is a form of virtue signaling because you're saying yes I may be white and I may be part of the problem but I know enough to say that there's racism here whereas those bigots out in Trump land the mega hat wearing Yahoo's they're the problem and and so I think that this idea of structural racism making it the central defining issue is is in part a vanity project and in part a discomfort with the fact that the racial achievement gap is not closed there still are some very profound problems in the black community I spend a lot of time in inner-city communities for my writing on police work and and I can tell you I mean there's the things that are normal there that would never be allowed elsewhere and yet the press is so racist that it turns a blind eye when black kids are gunning each other down because it doesn't fit their narrative so so I think it's a it's a mix of things it's virtuous signaling its fear that we're not going to close the achievement gap and it's a way of of again shutting down discourse and turning the conversation away to things that are easier to talk about which is claiming that whites are racist you you actually mentioned just that the press is being racist yes tell me more it's amazing in 2016 in Chicago there were 4300 people shot that's one person every two hours 24 children under the age of 12 were shot in Chicago that year now let's imagine 4,300 white people being shot in Chicago it is unthinkable there would be a national revolution we see what happens when white kids get shot in Columbine or whatever the whole nation freaks out it's completely unacceptable nobody knows about this toll in Chicago because the victims were black and the perpetrators were black we're all told that it's the police who were the biggest threats to black people that year in Chicago the police shot 20 people virtually all armed and dangerous threatening either the officer or our civilians that's point five percent of the total the cops aren't the problem there it's it's individuals who have not been socialized because they don't have parents but the press doesn't give a damn the only time the press cares about black lives is if one has been taken by a police officer which is a minut fraction of the black homicide toll this is sort of turning everything we're hearing about racism kind of on its head what you're saying here yeah it's a defining deviancy down there's complete double standards it's just assumed well that's just normal in black neighborhoods it's not even worth covering I mean it's just it's amazing earlier this summer I can't remove their was a white girl who was abducted I think and this was national news one measly white girl what about all the black kids who were shot and drive-by shootings among those those 24 kids under the age of 12 was a three-year-old shot on Father's Day who's now paralyzed for life a 12 year old the bullet went through his pancreas intestines and spleen again imagine this in the just change races it people would be riding in the streets so this is you know it's so fascinating to me what you're saying because it almost does suggest that kind of racism from another perspective are you saying well the white the whites matter and the blacks don't yes well I don't know what else how else do you how do you explain what's going on I mean and that and the thing is you could say well that's because okay so here's a here's a typically leftist explanation well it's because these these TV shows and the media realized well the white audience doesn't care well the fact is is that the black leaders don't care either they should be screaming bloody murder but we see what's happening now with the Trump tweet about Baltimore everybody is running in circles frantically to try and deny this reality which is bizarre because it's been documented extensively actually even by these media that we're talking about right now and our own their highest per capita homicide rate in their history thanks to something which I've called the Ferguson effect which is police backing off of the essential proactive policing that saves lives intervenes in crime before it ripens into something truly horrific the cops are unwilling to get out of their cars and and question somebody hanging out at a known drug corner at 2:00 a.m. because they're so fearful of another riot happening if they're forced to use force to subdue a suspect so they've they're deep policing and crime is is through the roof and people the good people in Baltimore those good hard-working minority residents that have businesses there they are all begging for the police to up to the plate and start clearing the corners of miscreants and loiterers and drug dealers again but even in the political climate the officers are unwilling to do so and I don't blame them you know something that struck me about these recent kind of mirror I don't know if their daily or every few days accusations against President Trump of racism and so forth it's almost like because it's such a you know phenomenon dominating social media it's almost like this it's almost like losing important it's almost like that the charge is losing importance even though it's the single most I think it's one of the worst things you could say on top of everything else about someone right uh-huh well worst in our current climate that that's that statement is itself an epiphone Amin of our current client right one can imagine there's worse things of course being a murderer being a child abuser of course but now this you're obviously right as of as a factual statement you are correct but that's not true in some sort of platonic sense just someone had I think it was Sebastian Gorka described Trump as the kryptonite to political correctness I thought that was a fascinating thing and it and I just keep thinking of that as I see racism racism racism and wondering is it racism stop is is is the word not meaning anything anymore eteri it's a it's a real question is is our people are more and more people gonna say are you kidding me you know get a grip I'm talking about something real here I'm talking about real problems I don't know I think we're in a race against time demographically the Republicans and conservatives have to stop saying that more people have to go to college as much as I Revere the ideal of college okay the humanistic education passing on the inheritance of Western civilization the ability to the opportunity the privilege to study beauty and greatness and sublimity I aspired to become an academic I can think of nothing more enriching and important in one's life than to be in a university properly defined currently however they are the engines of this toxic victimology and identity politics as long as Republicans some part of them are continuing to say yeah we need more people going to college we are going to get more of this nonsense because we see a generational divide the younger people are the ones that are most committed to the local politics and it's all because they've been brainwashed not just in college but of creasing Li K through 12 and it starts earlier and earlier and earlier so they there's there's dissenters on college campuses there's brave conservatives that are willing to sometimes perhaps be a little too provocative in in just trying to stick their their thumb in the eye of the of the hegemony of narrow discourse but the by and large people I think are come out of that with this view of America as defined by racism so we'll see whether Trump can rally enough people but all I know is that we see in corporations I mean look at how rapidly Nike has folded corporation after corporation right faced with its own absurd charges of racism whether the Betsy Ross shoe or earlier this year adidas brought out a sleek white tennis shoe with black pride logos on the insole in honor of Black History Month and people said it's racist because the shoe is white okay adidas withdrew the shoe so again the mainstream elites the corporate leaders they seem completely count by this if not true believers themselves so gosh so many things I want to ask you the idea of victimology is so closely tied inseparable from identity politics okay when these leaked when I any book you read on entrepreneurship any book any self-help book you read will tell you if you want to be successful if you want to be happy you have to take complete responsibility for yourself and your actions almost to an extreme yeah victimology is the antithesis of that and these so how can these people these extremely successful people who know this mmm-hmm be pushing a victimology agenda I just don't get it ideology I guess is is a blinding force and and yeah I one can hypothesize answers without really knowing I don't know how you would answer that but it's just there is so much status attached in the elite world now to buying that narrative and and by oneself virtue Shelby Steele at Hoover has written about this for decades now of this weird codependency between blacks who play play on their own victims status and and sort of leverage that to induce in black in white sort of a sense of shame and and the the urge to reparations and that the both sides depend on each other but yes I you know again for me the test case always and the the thing that I'm most upset about is what's happening with the universities it is absolute educational malpractice for the college administrators whether it's the presidents are these massive diversity bureaucracies to tell students that they're victims whereas in fact everything is open to them everything every library every classroom every chemistry lab it's all open and if those students are being so lied to that they think of themselves as a just on a college campus which again is filled with liberal well-meaning adults who want all of their students to succeed they are going to carry that chip on their shoulder that prevents them from seizing opportunities because they are angry sullen defensive all the time out in the real world now I would say that one of the drivers of this that is not sufficiently recognized is the practice in every minutely selective college in the country to use vast racial preferences and admissions this is in order to engineer diversity because of the academic skills gap which is very huge and and troubling and this is that that gap is driving a whole lot of our discourse today subtly covertly okay schools are admitting the vast majority of their black students with academic scores that are at least a standard deviation beneath those of whites and Asians the average black twelfth grader today reads the level of the average white 8th grader this is a huge disparity but these schools are so insistent on looking out over their sea of diverse faces that they're admitting these students that are not qualified to compete in that particular school they would a student who's admitted to Duke University with a black student with SATs that are a standard deviation below his white peers he's going to flounder he do perfectly wells I'm not saying he shouldn't go to college he'd do perfectly well if he was at a school where he matched the criteria that 12 games of his peers whether it's North Carolina University or not this is an incredible burden and handicap to put on the so-called beneficiaries of racial preferences but what happens is catapulted into academic environments for which then I prepared and let's take it out of race for a minute Jen let's say it was and MIT decided to admit me in order to get more gender diversity in its freshman class and let's say that on my math SAT on an 800 point scale I got a 650 and all my peers admitted to MIT unmerited own without reference to gonads had 800 we just probably closed the case what's gonna happen to me my first year I am going to flounder I'm gonna struggle I'm not gonna be able to keep up in freshman calculus now I have two options at that point I can be honest with myself and say I was admitted to a school for which I was not qualified instead of being at MIT I should have been at Boston College or UMass or I could say I'm in a patriarchal rape culture environment and if I'm feeling oppressed it's because I'm facing a wall of sexism the same thing happens with minority students with blacks and Hispanics they are not doing well they end up at the bottom of their class and they blame it on racism so as long as these schools insist on using these destructive racial preferences they are going to continue generating racial complaint and animosity and it is going to be very hard to get out of our situation so what you're describing what I'm hearing is almost like a death knell for our educational system if things continue like this Wow it's tragic it is the thing that breaks my heart the most it's why I write out of sorrow and anger that we are destroying this institution that developed over centuries in the West that should be the repository for passing on an inheritance and instead students and faculty should be down on their knees in gratitude for the opportunity to read the Greek tragedians to read Aeschylus to read Milton to read Mark Twain to read George Eliot this is the greatest privilege one can have and we're betraying it by teaching students too hate to hate the greatest products of civilization and frankly to hate each other earlier this year there was a tirade a student at Williams College which is one of the most privileged cushy environments you're ever gonna see everything is that everything is available to you you know the adults are walking around just saying how can I make you feel better it's a beautiful campus you've got it made if you're there so the black student group wanted funding for doing a blacks only event and the student government was a little bit uncertain as to whether this qualified for student government funds well because it was not this request was not immediately rubber-stamped one student got up and engaged in a tirade that I can't repeat here because there was so many it was so foul-mouthed and filthy but basically claiming that to be a black student at Williams is to be constantly prostituted and to be subject to the racism of whites in this awful institution that destroys blacks and that he's forced basically to engage in a a carnal sex act which I'm not going to go into further but it was astounding this explosion of hatred towards an institution that only wants the best for him and the scary thing is is nobody in that institution is going to correct that student try and bring him to a reality-based understanding of his world and he is going to carry that rage with him into the world at large and and the institutions are being transformed by people like this you know it seems like everyone let's say everyone is accusing each other of hate these days also kind of a broad statement but I see that accusation being flung around by say all sides I you know I try a lot to turn the tape and make sure that I'm not accusing only the other side of violations of neutrality and principle that I'm myself guilt guilty of I have to say though I think that the left has a monopoly in using hate and and this is something that interest me a lot because it is a reflex in discourse today on the left that any position you disagree with you say it grows out of hate so if you if one believes in having border security and having an immigration policy set by Americans rather than by people outside the country who decide to violate our laws that the first thing they don't come in that's hate right no it's not it's a good-faith disagreement about what is in the best interest of this country the place where I see the right do it the most I think is probably with regards to Israel and they will characterize you know criticism good faith or bad faith of Israel is hate but I don't I don't quite see the right doing it the same way and I again I'm very conscious of the hypocrisy zuv the right they are tolerating things that Trump is doing that they called Obama out for all the time whether it's the executive orders you know going around the legislative branch golf you know vacations but but the hate thing I think really is a specialty of the left you know I just did an interview a couple of days ago with Michael Knowles he's someone that's doing campus circuits so to speak he goes to speak like you have to a lot of universities and he's encountered some similar scenarios from what I understand I just want to describe one to you that did he actually described to me at an interview I think we published today actually so he says the moment I opened my mouth to start giving this talk a group of students started shrieking for about 25 minutes someone opens a fire door and some masked weirdo anti-fog I busts and sprays me with some chemical uh-huh okay Wow where was that I can't remember right the second fellow will pull it basically it's almost like violence becomes justified because of someone coming to speak not almost it it is justified in some folks mind and how does that work in your mind yeah I one doesn't want to be apocalyptic you know and what's always was you know you and I know that a little tip for the meetings you're supposed to be optimistic you're supposed to give people hope you know they don't want to have to so this is so dry everything's gonna quit but I'm sorry I'm gonna be honest with you it is kind of time to start sounding some really big alarm bells here I think this growth of violence the tolerance of violence people turning their their eyes away from it anti far it's really worrisome now maybe America just has so much sort of solidity and common sense in it that we're not going to keep going down this path but we have to acknowledge the human being is tribal by nature it it actually kind of loves to hate it it loves to have an enemy and feel like it's us against them and it is one of the accomplishments of Western civilization to try and tamp down that tribalism to have ideals of neutrality a non corrupt civil service that isn't just out for your clan or your tribe and and to aspire towards the rule of law but but this idea that you are justified in using violence we've seen this against Trump officials administration officials write that again maybe it'll just always remain a minority but but we're really playing with fire and again it's like calling racism calling racism is saying I got nothing it's the same with shutting somebody down you know you should want to argue with them if you believe the person has such weak reasons one should welcome the opportunity in a public debate to crush him Steve Bannon was invited for Trump's former advisor was invited by a professor at the University of Chicago Business School to do a debate on immigration and trade policy well the faculty at the University of Chicago wrote this petition saying Bannon should never come on campus because he puts our communities of color at risk you know that's a bizarre claim in itself but but they are again admitting their own impotence to make a good argument they should welcome the opportunity to have Bannon up on a platform so they can grill him Britton is also in the throes of of political correctness it's sort of the whole Anglosphere it seems this is a something that is particularly virulent in the Anglosphere I don't know why it's not quite as bad on the continent but they still have their wonderful tradition of the Prime Minister's Questions and you know there's this great debating tradition in Parliament that's what we should aspire to it's the belief in rational discourse making arguments because once you throw that out your only choice is violence we either argue rationally or we resolve our our disputes by violence there is no middle ground and there's many societies today that are still choosing the violence one these are the civil wars people getting their hands cut off this is an an eternal temptation for human beings and we are playing with fire in in grow mantis sizing this type of violence you know one of the arguments I've heard often is simply that the left doesn't have any answers to some of the there just aren't answers that's why there's they resort to shutting down discourse uh-huh what do you make well they have their answers they certainly do I mean they have a whole panoply of explanations for again the persistent socio-economic disparities in our country and that is the systemic racism one could argue that there are answers which have been the motivators of a lot of government policy now for decades you know Robert rector at the Heritage Foundation has estimated we've spent a trillion dollars at least on welfare entitlement programs redistribution of wealth so it doesn't look like we've it's had much of effect because the racial gaps persist to just revert to what we're saying before I would say the answers have got to be in culture change in behavior change people have to start making different decisions about how they lead their lives so the left is going to say no we have our answers that the right answers we've just never funded them enough which is a little hard to believe like what amount of funding would it take but but that is what they would say so they certainly not going to concede that they don't have answers they would say the right answers are the ones that are in bad faith you've described as this descent into identity politics as a totalitarian power play uh-huh can you break that down for me a little bit it again is a way of using a categorical identity to gain power without doing anything else okay here's a little secret Jen I don't regard being female as an accomplishment I don't regard it as particularly interesting and that goes for every other identity base trait these are not accomplishments accomplishment is learning calculus learning German developing a product that other people want to use but the identity politics victimology says just by virtue of checking off various boxes of victimhood and the more the better this is what this whole intersectionality concept you get power you get to silence your opponents and without using arguments so I would say that it is a a source of status-based power one of the ideas in legal history is to describe the transition from feudal Europe to the Renaissance and modernity as a transition from status based relationships to contractual relationships that in a feudal system when you have the land owning Lord and a group of peasants under him their relations are based on their status the nobody contract it's not voluntarily entered into right with an agreement and and that dissolved and gave way to a society where people make relations based on voluntary contracts that each side determines puts his own interests first and it's mutually advantageous well we're kind of moving back towards this feudal system of a status based hierarchy of power that by virtue of being a female I have more power than you do and if I were a black female I would really I'd have twice three times as much power as you do but again these are not based on anything that I've accomplished but just based on my status so it's kind of basically throwing out meritocracy as a concept absolutely it is it's everywhere the assault on meritocracy it's the most worrisome in the scientific sector right where you have Silicon Valley now every big tech firm Google Microsoft Amazon they are all obsessed with diversity and identity focus primarily on females because there are so few black and Hispanic computer engineers the that's not really where the game is the game is is trying to promote more females this got James d'amour fired from Google in August of 2017 because he dared to challenge the reigning feminist orthodoxy which is that only sexism explains the lack of gender 50/50 proportionality at Google and other big tech firms and d'amour said well there may be other factors at play as well such as the average career predilections of males and females he was not talking about the females at Google he was saying why aren't there more females at Google and and he said psychology is known for for decades that there are differences between males and females in their interest in ideas centered work versus hands on human relational work risk appetite for risk appetite for competition this got him fired and and Google and other tech firms have gone on happily on their merry way continuing to privilege employees based on the utterly irrelevant characteristics of gender and to a lesser extent race one guy was working for YouTube and Google and was told that he could only hire females and people of color for entry-level engineering jobs and he refused to go along with it and Phi and was fired so we are putting our competitive edge at risk by this wholesale attack on meritocracy I don't care what the race and gender is of the lab that's going to discover Alzheimer's if they're all female fine as long as they are the best scientists out there but if they're all male or if they're all Asian I really don't give a damn because the only thing that should matter is their scientific expertise that is now under assault at the universities and and in the corporate sector private sector as well it also makes me think that there's all sorts of realms of inquiry that our would be completely off limits here right like for example based based on identity politics you can't look at differences between men and women you can't look at you know gender identity in a in a from an empirical perspective yes this is very serious it's very serious because if the left is wrong that what explains disparities in society is structural racism if they're wrong and and let's say the Conservatives are right or I'm right that it's now there's really behavioral differences and culture and choices that matter we're never going to be able to self correct if that other explanation if the unorthodox radical explanation which is that no you need to everybody should be valuing education they should be waiting until they're married to have kids they should work full-time don't drop out don't join drug gangs if those explanations are right but you're not allowed to talk about them we're never going to be able to self correct and as far as gender I mean I've been looking at what I call these natural experiments to test the sexism hypothesis which is that only sexism explains the fact that if you look at Silicon Valley it is hugely male-dominated the tech entrepreneurs are hugely male-dominated I couldn't care less I'd say go for it guys you know if you guys have the balls to take risks and you have an idea and you're gonna work yourself at you know – I am in a cold computer lab because you have this vision go for it but the the dominant explanation is it's because females are getting there's barriers there's glass ceilings and there's discouragement blah blah blah well there's a bunch of institutions which are barrier free they there's no gatekeepers so here's a natural test to see well is sexism the explanation Wikipedia the online free and Clippy dia a novel institution there's no history attached to it there's no gatekeepers anybody can write and edit and it's anonymous and it's blind 90% of all entries on Wikipedia are written by males fascinating nobody is keeping females out there's no gatekeepers you just do it the fact is is there are differences between males and females on average I'm not talking about anybody's daughter out there I'm not saying your daughter is not going to win a Nobel Prize in Physics I'm talking about distributions and averages which is what James d'amour was trying to talk about in Google before he was fired on average males are more driven to this competitive fact-based obsession whether it's sports or keeping track of every last voting district and and there are differences in high and low end math skills there's a lot more math dummies who are male people who are completely clueless when it comes to to math are male but the very very high end of math skills is as two to one two and a half times one to one male to female so these things matter but again we're not allowed to talk about that Heather I could talk to you for hours and hours and hours this is absolutely fascinating I want to shift gears a little bit here okay you're doing some really important work that we've been doing some of this as well at the epic times around the homelessness situation in San Francisco and some of the realities around that you tell us a little bit you have a big article upcoming in the near future it can tell us a little bit of what you've been doing sure I went up earlier in the summer spent several days on San Francisco spending as much time as possible in these homeless encampments talking to people talking to the drug users and and wrote up my findings for an article in city journal which will come out probably in September fall it'll be online and our people can order a hard copy of it and what I found is that we've known this for decades the central narrative about homelessness that it's a problem of lack of affordable housing is a complete swerve from the truth it's just not the case these people are overwhelmingly drug addicts they are taking advantage of a system that enables their behavior mental illness is also very prevalent and what you have in San Francisco and places up and down the west coast now are our societies that have lost the will to enforce bourgeois norms of behavior and so you have an entire enabling industry for the homeless that free food is everywhere you know that people are eating all the time they're catered to the you know drug use is encouraged they've got the clean needle distribute San Francisco is distributing vitamin C to mix with crack and heroin sterile pads cookers the most grotesque book you've ever seen about judging on the junk that you're using to shoot up this got this whole diagrams about how to properly find your vein it's just amazing nobody is willing to say these are behaviors that are going to destroy your life and so once a society starts tolerating this it's going to get more of it so the idea that somehow San Francisco should be building affordable housing for addicts and mentally ill who many of them come to San Francisco this is true in Los Angeles Skid Row as well because it has a nationwide reputation as a place where you can party and nothing's going to happen to you as long as that is the norm you're not going to solve it and and you cannot build your way out of the San Francisco is among the most expensive housing markets in the country costs about 700,000 dollars to build one unit of affordable housing with 8,000 people in their latest homeless count in San Francisco I think that works out to about 6 billion to create housing for all of those people which is a third of San Francisco's already very large budget it's just not going to happen so I think it's very difficult because at time 2 because of bad decisions the society has taken down before that you do have people that are on the streets what do you do with them you know we should never have allowed it to get to this point okay because there's social disaffiliation that goes on people have broken with families and friends that would otherwise in earlier times have provided social support but if they know they have got that safety valve of being able to live on the streets there's less of incentive to stay on the straight and narrow how you change and get back to a more functional and an a system of values that will help people stay stable and on their feet is difficult I argue for using unused land outside of cities that is cheap to have clean and sober facilities certainly we've got to start enforcing immigration laws I had a very interesting encounter which I'm going to write about and am I going to spill the beans now with the Honduran drug dealers in in San Francisco who control much of the drug trade there San Francisco of course is famously one of the most left-wing sanctuary policies but the city should use immigration laws to get rid of these dealers that are there preying on people so there's there's things we can do but the other thing that I came away with is just a sense of traditional social structures in the United States are disintegrating families are disintegrating people of forgetting how to be parents this is something Charles Marie has written about with the white working-class and coming apart Jim Carney has a book about this as well there's something going on this is even beyond identity policy although it may be part of it you know when you have a culture now that has decided to be a get so against itself to hate its own accomplishments the only analogy I can think of is the Chinese Cultural Revolution I can imagine that that starts to eat away at people's self-respect and certainly to be a male in the culture today is to be the target of constant rhetoric about your toxic masculinity so I don't know but but these talking these people's lives it's their chaotic disorderly and the traditional structures above all family that kept people stable are breaking down in a very worrisome way so I got a chill up my spine as you referenced the Cultural Revolution which is of course the wholesale destruction of traditional culture yeah I mean as China by Mao's edict essentially this is something we are very familiar with at the epoch times are you saying that there's almost a kind of a cultural revolution happening in America as this yes well yes I you know he he turned on the great Chinese civilization and and said it's just a source of oppression you know throw out now the difference there is I think I think he actually did go after the elites the difference in America is it's the elites who are staying in power at the same time that they are trashing the past but again I don't know any civilization that can go forward without giving its members a sense of pride and as far as this trashing of Western civilization are you kidding me I mean others there's other great civilizations but as far as the exploration the explosion of scientific experimentation and progress that began in the 17th century in Europe with the Royal Society of London amateur scientists for centuries thereafter tinkering you know discovering the chemistry electricity the movement of the blood the the the intake of oxygen it's astounding it's astounding and yet we're told that this is somehow the source of oppression in the world today it's insane so we'll see where this ends up I don't know but we're getting close to burning books it's you know maybe they're not actually torched but certainly they're banned there are things that you're not supposed to read or say so as I said maybe we're still we're play-acting at the ethnic hatreds that are very real in the rest of the world but there may come a point when the play-acting becomes very real and that's something to be worried about extremely worried it would seem well so there's two fundamental questions here one is as a typical person someone that's watching this show this is an extremely bleak picture uh-huh right but I would feel motivated I I feel motivated to do something what can I do well I know that people with a amplifier I do believe this I've I've concluded this over the last six months is that the thing that needs to be done is to rebut the myth of bias that that is what's driving it that is what's driving a whole lot of nonsense across the left which is the the idea that racism is the is the primary driver of American society and that explains everything that is troubling in our culture today so people that have an amplification system have to cut back have to push back against that narrative because as long as that narrative holds they win if you don't have that amplification system I would say teach your kids to love greatness give them the great books read them the children's classics developing them an ear for language give them respect for beauty for music for Mozart for Chopin for Schubert to inoculate them against this this hatred and self-loathing and and if you can and it's very hard I realize if you yourself are the target of one of these phony racism accusations try and withstand it you know don't don't go in and deliver your your you know false show trial self indictment and the the more courage people can have again I'm not going to hold Trump up as a model for everything because I don't think in some respects he's the greatest model for what manly virtue should be I think he's thin-skinned and vindictive but on some things he is admirable and his ability to continue speaking the truth went under these charges of racism is is very refreshing and and more of us have to be able to do that and the next question is now now that you mentioned the President or the administration what about policy because somehow whatever policy has been out there has allowed this kind of political correctness victimology to fester to grow on campus to dominate in fact that's what your are the central to your argument mm-hmm now as a society we need to transform from that not just at the individual level but also at a societal level what kind of policy would you recommend you know I'm not a big believer in policy I think this is a cultural issue I I don't think there's a whole lot of policy levers there's some standard evergreens in the conservative our mandatory 'm of you know tying welfare-to-work to a reciprocal contract I would certainly say government's got to stop driving tuitions up in which is part by the Student Loan debacle of encouraging more and more people to go to college and allows this the schools to bulk up on their diversity bureaucracy because they've got all this free federal money coming in I certainly would change immigration policy I think we have to move away from low-skilled mass immigration that is creating competition for jobs is putting enormous fiscal burdens on cities when it comes to education and health care and criminal justice costs but I I don't think in fact I was skeptical Trump issued an executive order earlier this year on on higher education and said that schools should create an atmosphere of open inquiry well this sounds good you know as somebody who's been the target of an open inquiry I certainly understand the need for it but I'm I'm reluctant to have this tool placed in the hands of the federal government just because I'm all too conscious that the political pendulum can swing and you can imagine a Elizabeth Warren or Kamala Harris or Ilhan Omar administration defining open inquiry in the usual Orwellian terms which is that you can only be open by closing down speech so I would say again it's it's really up to people to make arguments to – I hate to use this terrible academic word but to valorize the accomplishments of Western culture to refuse the idea that we remain today a bigoted culture and to to be able to say bourgeois habits matter self-control matters the way that parents raise their kids matters so we need obviously we need better schools we I would get rid of progressive education I would get rid of most ed schools all of them I guess but those are those are things more on how we understand what it means to be human and what society needs to to raise children that are capable of realizing their gifts you know it sounds to me a little bit like it's on the influencers the people that have the ability to transmit as you were as you were describing earlier and frankly also on the media on us on me in your prescription yes you know I can think of one other thing I've not written about this yet or even visited one but I keep hearing about these classical academies they're being started and these are K through 12 schools that are dedicated to the great books this is a thing of beauty right and if there's if if there's parents out there that have the opportunity to send their children to one of these I would seize it because again I mourn the fact that I'm going to die before having heard all the great music that exists or having read all the amazing 19th century novels that have been written and now education is all about rubbing kids nose and dysfunction and premature sexuality awareness which is child abuse so as a parent preserve that zone of innocence and imagination for your children as long as possible I I think I I would probably homeschool because I I think it's just absolutely heartbreaking and tragic that the left-wing identity-based hating mob is taken over K through 12 education and is already telling students to think of themselves as either victims are oppressed is celebrating various forms of dysfunction it's it's a it's such a shame because childhood should be a time of imagination and play and learning and and free from the adult world of of sexuality and it's it's no longer that and that's just tragic classical academies I hadn't actually heard that term but that sounds that sounds super interest sounds like a bit of the education I had that privilege of having really you know back when way back when but and home schooling and hope schooling clearly among the classics or well yes I mean obviously you do math and science but I would certainly not choose any book based on anything other than the greatness of its language and imagination I don't think diversity of author I've I'm very grateful that I was in college in the 70s before multiculturalism hit so I was allowed to read in my freshman year Chaucer Spencer Milton Wordsworth without anybody thinking to complain that these were dead white males so I don't think books should ever be chosen on the basis of the race and gender of their authors it's completely irrelevant so yes homeschooling should be the foundation in the classics because it's the only time you're going to get it powerful place to finish up heaven thank you so much thank you my pleasure you

44 thoughts on “Heather Mac Donald on Victim Mentality, Identity Politics & President Trump’s Baltimore Tweets

  1. Hello everyone, and welcome to Jan Jekielek's interview with Heather Mac Donald! Please let us know if you have any questions about the interview—it's the BOMB! Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE and RING the BELL so you don't miss a thing!

  2. The KKK, LBJ’s so-called Great Society, the destructive impact of the welfare system, the encouragement of victimology, diversity-driven chaos, the destruction of the family, rising Black abortion rates…the list goes on…all of these things including increasing societal ignorance are ideological efforts to take down America. And the Leftist K-through-College educational system is at the very heart of it.

    Blacks are starting to wake up, as are other Americans, but the truth is clear; the Left requires an expanding minority underclass and its victims to justify ever-more government intrusion into our collective lives. WWG1WGA

  3. Great interview Jan! It is refreshing to listen to what Heather has to say about how diversity is destroying the social fabric of so many societies, predominantly in the Westeren hemisphere.

  4. 09:10 You can literally replace black with babies and you can easily find out how slavery occurred. We are living in a time of barbarity just like they did back then. Except we kill innocent babies.

  5. We don't listen to commentators who say President TRUMP has failings, when he's been delivering on his promises while being attacked like her type. Failings? The former presidents were full of failings, media is nothing but a failure, Democrats are failures. How dare her be such dubious mouthpiece. KEEP AMERICA FREE from these half truthers.

  6. At 9:45 Ms. MacDonald starts listing the various areas where Black people are pushed ahead which culminates with "If you want to apply to Harvard today, you don't want to be a white male."

    Maybe it time we all should start to claim ourselves Black Females. I'm going to change my name to LaQuisha Jefferson. And yous bedder gets dem pronoun correxs tou!

  7. I knew a white girl that went to the welfare office to apply for help, and they told her, she was the wrong color.
    That is racist. This was when Obama was President.
    Racist does not have a color.
    When a person that works in our government, calls a President racist, without reason, is just crazy.
    Black people that live in the USA, have it made. I have seen black people get jobs, without skill. Black people can go to college because they are black.
    We live in the greatest country in the world, the USA.
    Even if you are very poor, you are better off, because you live in the USA.
    Being poor has nothing to do with crime. Having the right parent or parents, to teach their children the honorable way. Teach your children the Bible, and how to pray.

  8. The cops idk about that when do the cops save someone? Because I don't no of anytime were a cop got a call that someone was shoot you think they can make it there to stop him from being shoot agian ? Lol .you want to no why we the people don't like the cops .rich people do not experience this only poor and they make it a race thing when it's not a race thing it's a poor thing delete politicians that run this country have a war against the poor people and they used to police in legislation and laws to kidnap and lock up and fine and still money from poor to make an even poorer makes me sick when I see rich people defend police officers because I live in an area where the police treat you like cockroaches everybody it's the way the train you're trained under the way these rich people want them to act towards us change mean to wake up for the reason why I probably doesn't like the police it ain't just because they don't like the police might people want to be a cop when they're little and then they realize when they come in contact with one of them later on in life after ye don't want to be a f**** a**** cop no I'm good cops but they don't they're not good When Something's Happened it's breaking the law breaking someone's constitutional rights which they do on a regular basis if they're training teaches him to do that just like the politicians break or unconstitutional all the time they break our rights all the time. He's handed over to the police to give them authority to Frank I'm even more the same thing the Nazis dead but we were already Nazi policies before Trump trump is trying to change all that he's not even a republic any energy been a lifelong Democrat

  9. I think the race card is the Democrats ultimate admission that they are a party of failure.
    People who fail need excuses.
    The race card is an excuse.

  10. HOme Schooling should be the First thing and Creating Home Schools with just a few parents taking the time to teach a class…

  11. High Voltage Political Power! It might even be possible to apply electrical engineering formulas to politics. There is a potential difference, right- wing versus left-wing. There is resistance to various Bills. Capacitance pent-up animosities between parties. Inductance influencing others and transformers converting others to their political beliefs. And there is the Federal Reserve the battery (accumulator)storing the electric charge (money). The generator is the workforce. And even electromagnetic radiation is the Media. Flip- Flopping and many other ideas could also be included such as digital logic etc. Add some statistical information figures and facts, put it all into a supercomputer and see what it comes up with. Possibly more confusion, but who knows? Politics seems to be an art as well as science, and computers aren't too good at the art of doing things yet. But maybe AI (artificial intelligence) computers will be. If they can come up with ideas such as this one.

  12. Post structuralism, which was proudly brought to us by those mother effers at the Frankfurt School at Columbia University. The antithesis to the American school. These grievance merchants took the Have and Have-not friction and turned it into the oppressors v. oppressed. This was then taken up by post 60's (hippie) academic faculty at other universities and has held on, despite It being anti-American at its core.

    It's even more nefarious than this. Look up how William J Donovan, from a certain three letter agency, brought these thoughtful, caring people into his agency. The wonderful "research" they did brought us really useful stuff. Like, when they took a very intelligent 16 year old, who enrolls at the wonderful Harvard University and they did psychological studies on him. Not just any study though. This one was designed to break him. And others too, but this intelligent 16 year old went onto becoming very famous. Some would say that they didn't break him because he would, before becoming famous, go onto becoming the youngest assistant professor at Berkeley. He taught there for two years before going home to live with his parents. He even wrote a book, or manifesto, 'Anti-Tech Revolutio: Why and How'.
    He described leftism as a danger. That the leftist mindset with technology is a severe danger. He was right. Look who controls big tech and what they are doing. They're attempting to impose their will on society.
    Anyway, I actually think that they broke that very intelligent 16 year old, because that kid went onto becoming the very famous unibomber. Ted Kaczynski. Awesome work 3 letter agency and Harvard!

    Those powerful families that funded this awesome shit are pretty interesting in their own right, but you have to go down the rabbit hole to see that.

    People would call me a conspiracy theorist if I suggested this might be part of the "cabal" we hear so much about these days. I wouldn't dare suggest it. But it is interesting how certain groups are interconnected if you look close enough.

  13. If President Trump were truly thin-skinned, he would have crumbled long long time ago. He is only susceptible to the charge of being thin-skinned because he is an intuitive counter puncher. What many little boys are taught by their mommy's unfortunately, when they first begin School, is to ignore the other little boys when they tease them or picked on them, because they are only jealous. The truth of the matter is that if that little boy Bloody the nose of the first other little boy who said he look like his mama dressed him, then all the other little boys would be lining up to be his friends, instead of picking on him mercilessly. But, only Daddy's give such advice, never mommies. When the whole world is Allied against you, including 93% of your own media oh, it isn't thin-skinned to fight back oh, and to give better than you got! If Trump were not what's Heather and others refer to as vindictive, he would have been destroyed a long time ago.b the truth is that's what Heather refers to as being thin-skinned and vindictive are the manners in which men have built armies amongst themselves for thousands of years. Men challenge each other, and if the men they challenge don't fight back, they are considered unworthy adversaries and even less worthy allies. It may be true that women are often the recipients of his verbal Jabs, but it is only because they have entered the man's realm of politics. Women should not enter men's jobs and still be afforded the Privileges of femininity.

  14. She didn’t bring up the Frankfurt school and other Ashkenazi commie left wing think tanks that have created this take over of the education as a whole in America and the western world

  15. "The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists." – Winston Churchill.
    Because their goal is to undermine the occidental system, to bring about a socialist revolution, they attack key elements: men, white, christian occidental, capitalism… They will topple the system when the undermining is done. It all belongs to the identity politics project of social globalization that requires the erosion of the foundations of the nation-states, and their capitalistic system.

    Divide the citizens in groups by identity of gender, faith, class, race, orientation, political views… have the national society become a multi-tribal society, have them clash and confront each other, fragment the cohesion, erode the religion, control the education, the media, the judiciary system, flood the country with non-citizens with other races and faiths to accelerate the decomposition.All that would bring their desired collapse of the national systems. Upon those ruins they will build their Utopian Global Marxist/Socialist System.
    National Socialist= Nazis, Global Socialist= Glozis. Neonazis=Neomarxist. Same dogs and very look alike collars. (In Orwell's book Ingsoc =English Socialism).

    Antifa and these mob groups operate like the SA(Sturmabteilung), Nazi Party's original paramilitary, also called the "Brownshirts", similar to Benito Mussolini's "Blackshirts".
    "The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists."

  16. It doesn't matter what your academic preparation is to get into Harvard, for example, because at Harvard all undergraduate students get A's in all of their classes, regardless of the work they hand in or don't. So, Joe is being cheated? The person who wasn't academically prepared for a rigorous ivy league college education still receives the most coveted ivy league credential, but the person who is prepared, although he receives the same credential as is unprepared classmates, is cheated out of an actual education.

  17. I understand why Heather feels she has to say what she saying, and that the left is certainly vulnerable to the charge of racism, which day so freely playing at their opposition, as a substitute for having to make an actual argument, but what's she saying isn't exactly true. When white people kill white people, in Acts of mass violence, the media uses to characterize white people as inherently violent, and to demonize firearms. When black people murdered black people with firearms, it is ignored, because the media doesn't want to address the much bigger problem of black violence. Similarly, when white people kill black people, even if the white people are cops and the black people are criminals, it is hyped by the media, to support the leftist argument that white people are inherently racist. Conversely, when black people kill white people, even when it's black criminals murdering innocent victims or police, it is downplayed or ignored by the media, to support the leftist narrative that it is white men who are inherently violent and racist oh, and that all blacks are victims of white violence and racism.

  18. Bring back more music and literature and orchestral performances and live theatre. Bring back speech and debate and academic olympics.

  19. You are a breath of fresh air Heather. I wish you were in charge of the educational system because it desperately needs help. Rational discourse is almost impossible now. And yes, political correctness is a big part, plus this pushing white guilt is really gone crazy. Identity politics is crazy as well. I look at AOC and Justin Trudeau and Angela Merkel and Macron in disbelief. Insanity worldwide. The word meritocracy is treated like a four letter word. I think those pushing Totalitarianism rule are deliberately pushing identity politics and racism and chaos and violence to destroy America and our educational system and religious freedom and nationalism and traditional values.

  20. Hi,

    Great content, I thank you for it. On that note I would like to enquire on Miss Donald as if she is planning to publish her book in audio format for us dyslectics.

    Many thanks,

  21. As I recall the very first thing that the Democrats an their news out- let CNN did was to accuse Trump of being a Sex, pervert and it was a fact that Adam Schiff had evidence that he was staying in a hotel and that there were photographs of Trump having young girls peeing on him while Putin had been taking photographs of Trumps's sexual abilities. To this day Adam Schiff is still walking free an has not produced all this evidence!!! If anyone else did that you would never ever have heard about them again! Why is Adam Schiff being treated like another fake government protected minister of God like Al Sharpton?????

  22. Most blacks can't run a family and then they are put in charge of a city or state and we expect it to work?

  23. It is unbelievable that the creators of the KKK, the Jim Crow Laws, & etc. are now weaving the racism narrative when the ones who are truly racist are the Dems who are the present creators, mantainors, & promoters of the urban-plantations where, like in "Hotel California," once minorities or the poor are in, everything is done by the Dems not to let them out.

  24. The proverbial made-up shield of immunity is not only given or made available to African-Americans by the Dems. It is also bestode on Islamist & others. The lawless Dems are running rampant on the halls of Congress!

  25. The great taboo no one can admit is the difference in racial I.Q." on average "as the reason for the gap in academic performance. Therefore, the only answer is systemic racism, and we have spent billions on a problem that needs to be addressed some other way. Sorry, but I am not going to bemoan the fact that on average males have more upper body strength than females. There are some facts one just has to face and put your energy and efforts in a different direction! She is also right about self-sabotaging behaviors. Common sense has gone out the window.

  26. Most communities clean themselves up. Why don't black communities?
    If all the Blacks in Baltimore suddenly turned into Jews, you can bet, within a few weeks,
    the streets would be cleaned, the homes would be cleaned. Community watch groups
    would be formed. The community would clean itself up. But, not Blacks.

  27. I am very sorry, I always watch your video, but this lady is using you, you know it, because according to you, you are the son of people who had to leave the homeland because communism, this lady is part of that devisory mechanism…..

  28. Incredible the narrative of something that is believed to be known … Of course, it is difficult for anyone who does not know in their flesh … See the psychological game, I certainly understand it, because I have children, women and friends whose roots are totally Americans who, despite telling them about the game, cannot understand it, but I see that it is already widespread, according to the guest, the liberals cannot understand what it is or means to "behave", but of course. ..! That is always the fact, not communist, liberal, democratic, socialist, radical, etc., knows what it is to behave because it is part of the tactics of asymmetric warfare, but if they know more about the account, what it is to behave when they are in power, they are applied in such a severe way that they are capable of killing even their family to set an example and that Americans do not want to understand it, because today they are even in Congress.
    By the way I tell you something, this lady can not understand what is race, according to her, if the dead were white there would be a national revolution … she is also totally blind… and the white dead that have been… where are those dead for her…? THOSE DEAD HAVE BRING THAT NATIONAL REVOLUTION…? DO NOT…!
    Then don't cry tomorrow… when it's too late… When they take power they don't leave with protests or revolutions… They know how to end the protests by using each other… how your guest is deliberately doing with her problem definition…
     I already learned this rhetoric from moralists, I learned it very well, I can assure you that because I lived it in my flesh.

  29. Incredible the narrative of something that is believed to be known… Of course, it is difficult for anyone who does not know in their flesh… See the psychological game, I certainly understand it, because I have children, women and friends whose roots are totally Americans who, despite telling them about the game, cannot understand it, but I see that it is already widespread, according to the guest, the liberals cannot understand what it is or means to "behave", but of course…! That is always the fact, not communist, liberal, democratic, socialist, radical, etc., knows what it is to behave because it is part of the tactics of asymmetric warfare, but if they know more about the account, what it is to behave when they are in power, they are applied in such a severe way that they are capable of killing even their family to set an example and that Americans do not want to understand it, because today they are even in Congress. Then don't cry tomorrow… when it's too late… When they take power they don't leave with protests or revolutions… They know how to end the protests by using each other…
    I can assure you that because I lived it in my flesh.

  30. Wow! What a dynamic and intellectually stimulating conversation! Really a treat, Thank you both so much. I think something that shuts down so much valuable discovery is that, so far, we haven’t learned how to value the gifts of one culture without devaluing those of a completely different culture. We don’t seem to know how to honor and celebrate the feminine without dishonoring & putting down the masculine. & visa versa. We can’t seem to appreciate the beauty of classical music and also appreciate the beauty & power of blues.
    Why constantly compare, contrast and judge? Perhaps this whole issue about college comes from valuing only the work of the mind and not that of the hands. Why can’t intellectual intelligence and emotional intelligence receive equal respect? All the various parts of the human body are of value, each cell has its own function. It all works together. I can’t just value the brain, for example, and denounce the liver. I see the body as a living example of unity in diversity. Diversity without the unity of the whole body would be simply a collection of organs, bones, skin, blood, etc. Not a living breathing functioning body. While a body without the remarkable diversity of form and function couldn’t exist at all. Poop may not be pretty or smell very good, but if we couldn’t poop, we couldn’t live. & then there’s the spirit, breathing life into the body. It’s all such a mystery!

  31. I am not guilty. My dad was a farmers son sitting on A farm truck wearing clothes made lovingly by my grandma with burlap sacks and whatever materials she could scratch up. I never saw her sit idle even playing scrabble she was knitting A pair of mittens for a great grandchild. I didn’t get to got other collage I was accepted to ( no money) . Now I hounded the personnel department so when I turned 17 I worked at A factory until I graduated at 18 1/2 . When they went bankrupt the way they did every 7 years Like clockwork. I was lucky I got A job in a defense contractor . I did in Maine everything they did at Lockheed Martín in Atlanta Georgia. So when even with a security clearance. The company in Maine lost There contract. I moved to Atlanta because Lockheed Martín was hiring 1200 people I just knew with great references I was A shield in! Until I didn’t get hired? Line maintenance, general maintenance, punch presses, minute electrical connections? And I didn’t get hired with great references? I met the CEO at a friends birthday party. I had to ask? He told me straight up I had the wrong skin color ( white) I was working on A job the company had subs to Atlanta Gas company. I worked probing all day for the equipment operator, running A jack hammer all day with 4 black guys I called the naacp crew. They would play dice on the curb all day wile I would wrap towels around the jackhammer to keep it from burning my hide . When I worked I just saw it as work. I had no hate towards the guys who saw themselves victims . In fact I being raised by civil rights activists . I thought of it as my patriotic duty. Until I was next in line for A extra $2.00 per hour to be the next equipment operator because of my being next up . They hired A black guy who never even saw the backhoe operated . Paid him $2.00 more per hour to train him. Now I have to jump out of the hole between location of other utilities because one wrong move with the lever and I can be seriously hurt. Not because he would do it on purpose it’s just that it takes time to get smooth. Even with All the reverse discrimination I went through in my life I still started A tree service besides trying to compete ,with the many cheats I still feel I was better off selling my work to white housewives as A white middle age man. Now I get cards where they are auctioning off tree service company’s who hired cash, and had to cheat to have 10 cash workers. Who hid the cash ,they paid their help. So I kissed my work so I didn’t have to cheat. So I wouldn’t have to subject my life’s work to the IRS.

  32. I don't buy into the the new way. Call me a racist and i look at where its coming from and i say no your the racist go away

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