Debunked: “Socialism Has Never Worked”

Debunked: “Socialism Has Never Worked”


Socialism has never worked It’s become a “truism”, repeated by right wingers and people who just don’t know much, about political theory It could be something someone tries to say when you tell them you voted for Bernie Sanders. “Pscht, Bernie Sanders, don’t you know that socialism has never worked.” Many don’t know much about the history of socialism or even really understand what socialism actually is. They hear the word socialism and they think of authoritarian regimes like the Soviet Union or North Korea or even worse they might say “Hey, socialism doesn’t work” when they are having a conversation about someone like Barack Obama implying that Obama is himself is a Socialist. Now, it should go without saying that Obama is not a socialist but this actually has to be explained to some people this is true regardless of whether you are for or against socialism or communism or capitalism or social democracy I am not a socialist but I can only understand that if I actually know what socialism is. So, let’s begin there. Defined by a textbook: socialism is the collective ownership of a society’s means of production. Means of production could be non human resources used to produce things of economic value, like real estate or farmland natural resources, equipment buildings, infrastructure, roads and collective ownership of these things meaning workers or the public own them. Some define socialism as a system by which social equality can be achieved. In this broader way of thinking about it socialism could mean any kind of socialistic philosophies or attitudes or tendencies or a system that combines orthodox socialist practices with other constructs like capitalism For instance, you could say that some Scandinavian countries are socialistic by modern standards not because they have a system where the the government or workers own everything but because they have a system where there’s a relative greater amount of intervention by democratic government to protect socialistic ideals like egalitarianism, civil rights, equal education, environmentalism and the prevention of abuse by actors in the free market. These are capitalist societies and they’re definitely not not realizations of socialism as defined in a political science glossary but these are manifestations of socialistic inclinations, especially when compared to what goes on in many other developed countries. Socialism is an extremely broad umbrella term to describe a wide range of political, social and economic systems, movements and ideas. Let’s explore where socialism comes from, some of its variations and how they function in society. Some elements of socialism have ancient roots. Ancient buddhism taught that the individual and all other living beings are interconnected and interdependent and that all humans should be treated equally and with kindness. People often draw parallels between socialism and buddhism And many say that Plato’s republic first articulated the notion of a socialist state, a state that aims to solve social problems by government action, through higher taxes and redistribution of resources There are lots of other aspects of Plato’s Republic that don’t at all align with modern socialism. Socialistic ideals are seen being portrayed in the Hebrew bible, which in many places says that people should be treated equally and that we should be generous to the have nots. The book of Leviticus says “You shall not oppress or exploit your neighbor … love your neighbor as yourself.” Deuteronomy says “[god] enacts justice for orphans and widows, and he loves immigrants giving them food and clothing, that means you must also love immigrants because you were immigrants” “Don’t take advantage of poor or needy workers whether they are fellow israelites or immigrants who live in your land or your cities.” From Ecclesiastes “It is god’s gift to humankind that everyone should eat and drink.” From Psalms “Give justices to the weak and the fatherless; maintain the right of the afflicted and the destitute. Rescue the weak and the needy, deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” Now this might get awkward for anti socialist christian conservatives but the new testament is also chock full of socialist themes. Jesus advocated that all people including government should provide for the poor and distribute resources according to people’s needs. Some quotes of the new testament: “All who believed were together and had all things in common and the sold their possessions and goods and divided them among all men, as every man had need.” “And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own but they had all things in common.” “If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor.” “When you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind and you will be blessed because they cannot repay you.” “Distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.” To take another religious example in Zoroastrianism the prophet Nasdaq the younger in 6 century persia promoted the implementation of social welfare institutions and collective ownership of property. Many ancient religions acknowledged the social nature of humans whether on purpose or by accident and promoted equality, caring for the needy and common ownership. The term socialism itself wasn’t used until the early XIX century in western Europe by philosophers and social critics like Pierre Joseph Proudhon, Henri de Saint-Simon and Robert Owen. At first the word was used not to describe any one political system but as an abstraction, a philosophy that society could or should operate to serve the collective as opposed to just thinking about the individual. This was in the wake of the French revolution and in large part the reaction to the poverty and inequality that was growing out of the industrial revolution and then over the course of the XIX and XX centuries there were many, many different philosophies that branched out of this to form separate socialist intellectual movements; this is where the idea that socialism means any one thing is dispelled, when someone says socialism has never worked be suspicious that they are thinking very narrowly and really not taking into account how many different types of socialism there really are. And how different types of socialism and how different types of socialism have manifested or they might be completely clueless about history too. Many of the different flavors of socialism have some overlap and aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive movements. One of the first schools of socialist thought was utopian socialism which in itself is sort of an umbrella of different theories but in this way of thinking socialists supposed that capitalist, factory owners and others would voluntarily hand over the means of productions to workers. They believed that this would be accomplished by way of education and conversation between socialists and capitalists until all the means of production were controlled by the collective and decentralized democracies. Many utopian socialist drew from christianity to form the rationales for their views. Utopian socialism has often been criticized for focusing too much on theoretical models on how the socialism might work and not enough on how it would be achieved, hence the name: utopian. Then there’s marxism. Now many people refer to marxism colloquially as communism even though communism can actually describe an array of different systems, some of which don’t even involve a state, which I’ll touch on in a second, but marxism is definitely not merely synonymous with socialism the way many people think. Marxism is a type of socialism or a type of communism, something very specific, and it’s not just an economic system it’s an entire philosophical worldview and a way of analyzing politics, and society, economics, history, religion, art, whatever; and there’s much, much more that can be explained about marxism than I’m able to cover in this video but as an ultra simplified overview political marxism is centered around class struggle, revolution and marxist historical theory of materialism. Marxism advocates a revolution wherein a society means of production are taken by force, rather than by reform or negotiation or slower forms of transition; the means of production would then be controlled by a proletarian state which in theory would lead to an egalitarian, stateless society that governs itself without coercive institutions. Really important point here: This is not what the Soviet Union or its quote “communist” successors achieved or were working toward, despite their pretenses Bolshevism, Maoism and the like are inherently right wing totalitarian perversions of Marxism. In direct contrast to marxism and other forms of state socialism is libertarian socialism where there’s an emphasis on having an state that’s either small and decentralized or completely non existent; one version of libertarian socialism is anarchism, which is a set of socialist movements that generally oppose the idea of hierarchies and authority altogether, especially the state really no variation or stage of anarchism involves government by definition and almost all schools of anarchism see any type of hierarchy as either unnecessary or unethical in any kind of human interaction, a boss at the workplace a leader in a social movement, whatever the case might be. Now, within anarchism, there is anarchist communism which seeks to abolish not only the state but all markets, money and private property in exchange for communal ownership of the means of production and decentralized grassroots direct democracies. There’s anarcho syndicalism which can be thought of as a sort of extension of anarchist communism where the means of production are controlled by confederated trade unions called syndicates, this type of anarchism actually manifested in Catalonia, Spain, right before world war 2; in this instance socialism worked. Almost all industries and aspects of the economy were collectivized and society functioned efficiently without capitalism or money. Catalonia was able to provide quality healthcare for its 2.5 million inhabitants. Under anarcho syndicalism Catalonia saw a growth in wealth and production and absence of poverty, more schools were built all around objectively better public services were provided and they had a highly effective military which they constantly used to protect themselves against the Spanish nationalist forces during the Spanish civil war. George Orwell described what he saw when he visited Catalonia in the 1930’s. “It was the first time I had ever been in a town where the working class was in the saddle. [This] shows you what human beings are like when they are trying to behave as humans beings and not as cogs in the capitalist machine.” Anarcho syndicalist communities also existed in Chiapas, Mexico which first developed in the 1990 under the Zapatista movement, today they successfully provide adequate education and healthcare services for themselves. They have sustainable and ecologically sound agricultural practices which provide more than enough food and they’re champions of women’s right and the rights of indigenous mexicans. And they are many other types of socialist anarchism. By the way socialist anarchism should be redundant because things like anarcho capitalism present oppressive economic hierarchies of authority that are inherently non anarchistic but with all the “ancaps” running around on the internet these days it’s worth just clarifying that point. Beyond anarchism there’s democratic socialism and social democracy which seek to implement the principles of socialism in the context of a democratic and sometimes capitalist state. Principles like equality, social justice, environmentalism, civil liberties, free speach Democratic socialism and social democracy differ from anarchism obviously because there is a state, They differ from Marxism because they are frequently thought of as systems that are thought of as achieved through reform, as opposed to revolution, or they’re thought of as vehicles for reform to something else, and they also don’t carry many of the other characteristics of Marxism. Democratic Socialism and Social democracy are oftenconsidered more centrist than Marxism or anarchism, and according to many, are even compatible with capitalism or at least some elements of capitalism. In other words, in democratic socialism and social democracies, you can have markets, but the state provides a great deal of regulation and social welfare. Distinctions are sometimes made between democratic socialism and social democracy. in that democratic socialist states will ensure that major factions of industry are publicly owned, while social democracies tend to exist within more capitalist frameworks. Currently, no counties in the world really for the description for democratic socialism, Venezuela under Hugo Chavez claimed to be democratic socialist, but it was, and still is by the way, just another right wing, oppressive, authoritarian type of socialism. There are a handful of countries today that can be accurately described as social democracies. Modern social democracies allow egalitarianism, Things like social welfare, universal healthcare, and representative democracy to flourish with in the context of capitalism. Think of countries like Denmark, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Modern social democracy is sometimes referred to as the Nordic model. These countries have free college, free graduate school, free or inexpensive world class health care, paid through taxes. Compared to other developed countries, generally speaking. they have lower rates of crime and a higher quality of life. Socialism has been used to solve economic problems for millennia, in a wide variety of places and in different forms. Sumeria circa 2100 BC, had a state planned economy. Food was directly distributed through the state. Evidence of their bureaucracies can be found written on tens of thousands of clay tablets, excavated in modern day Iraq. The code of Hammurabi in Babylonia, around 1750 BC, fixed the wages of workers and capped how much physicians were allowed to charge their patients. In Egypt, during the Ptolemaic dynasty from 323 to 30 BC, the state controlled the means of production and every aspect of commerce. The government owned all of the land, and decided what crops should be grown and where. It controlled the mines, the production of oil, salt, paper, textiles, and everything was funded through an intricate taxation system. Under emperor Diocletian during the third century BC, Rome responded to harmful monopolies and widespread poverty and unemployment, by nationalizing all major industries and creating tons of public works projects. The Chinese emperor Wu of Han in the second and first centuries BC, to combat growing monopolies and wealth inequality, established an income tax, nationalized natural resources, regulated trade, fixed prices, and established public works. The longest lasting use of socialism is thought to be the Incan economic system between the 13 and 16 centuries, Everyone in the society collectively organized every aspect of agriculture, labor, trade, and transportation, and a census kept track of materials, individuals, and income. The Incan people graciously participated in this system, in exchange for security and food. And it worked, despite the massive size of the Incan territory. And it only fell apart because of the arrival of the Spanish in 1533. Responding to someone claiming that socialism has never worked, I would remind them that, to the extent that socialism has been tried, Where ideas and tendencies of democratic, egalitarian, left-wing socialism, have been woven into political and economic life, and haven’t been nullified by right-wing phenomena like totalitarianism, police states, and oligarchy, the results have been good. The right-wing, or conservative, or classical liberal dogma in the US, is that higher taxes and a strong public sector are just awful. They say these things inhibit economic growth and innovation, or that the welfare state and thorough regulation of markets, is unsustainable, or even that these things endanger individual liberty. As progressives, we know that’s not true, or really anyone who has looked at the data or studied truly democratic applications of socialism, would know, that’s not true. Look at Scandinavian countries today, Or even countries like France, Ireland, Canada, or New Zealand, which share some of the same characteristics. No matter what lens you look at these systems through, they are the best game in town. And again, these are capitalist societies, but they borrow from socialism. In terms of economics, these societies see economic growth at higher rates, lower unemployment, higher rates of job creation, better productivity per work hour, lower poverty, less homelessness. In terms of social issues, there’s greater gender equality, better education, better education equality, more social mobility, better healthcare, better quality of life in general. Socialism doesn’t necessarily mean Marxism or communism, and it doesn’t have to mean abandoning things like individual rights. Entire branches of socialism are centered around individualism as their highest value. In many of its manifestations, socialism just means, allowing government to more efficiently do what we already called upon it to do: protect people’s rights, protect people from abuses of the free market, and provide social safety nets. And neither I, nor any reasonable person, want to achieve those things through the power of one authoritarian person, or small group of people. It should be done democratically, through representative government, or genuine communal ownership, like it’s done on every place on earth where socialism has worked. Socialism, when combined with democratic values, which countries like the US, in principle, hold dear, can give us something desirable, in terms of preventing the working class from being exploited by the rich and corporations, preventing devastating wealth inequality, and providing basic human needs like healthcare and education. Many other societies have shown us that these things can be accomplished without anything reminiscent of the extreme examples often pointed to for people to claim that socialism doesn’t work.

100 thoughts on “Debunked: “Socialism Has Never Worked”

  1. The difference between what Jesus taught and socialism is that Jesus's system doesn't force people to participate. Where socialism does. Voluntary vs. Compulsory.

  2. Bull shit! Socialism works on paper only! It does not take into account true human nature.
    that's why it always fails!

  3. social ism means government takes over everyone's business and gives to the public sector way less than they deserve. work harder….no work smarter and youll out due the collective .Its core principal is equality nd if you work and u do more than average citizen you will not reap a little more. my opinion is the collective will isolate u and teach you that the community is better than just you, any talents, any gifts God bestowed upon your personage is all but indoctrinated or re=educated out of u. all while the collectives elite BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ARE LIVING IT UP AT THE COMMUNITIES EXPENSE.Canadas universal healthcare is very harmful because what your not being told is …if your primary dr finds cancer cells inside your labs you will not be made a priority INSTEAD YOU GET THE MRI/CATSCANi FREE BUT NOT IN THE TIME NEEDED TO ENSURE QUALITY OF LIFE AND TIME AFTER TIME IVE WITNESSED CANADIANS HEADING TO THE LOWER 48 FOR THEIR CARE. NOTHING SHOULD BE FREE THEN PEOPLE BECOME ENTITLED…..IF ITS FREE OR FOR THE BETTERMENT OF OTHERS EXCLUDUNG YOU FUGITABOUTIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FREE MARKETS STIMULATE HEALTHY COMPITITION AND GIVE SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT. CAPITALISM IS GOOD IF DONE RIGHT.

  4. Rozie Rockett wrote
    “CAPITALISM IS GOOD IF DONE RIGHT.”
    ===========
    True.
    But the Oligarchs don’t want it done right
    because that is not in their best interests.

    GAME … SET … AND MATCH !!!!!!!!!!
    MY WORK HERE IS DONE !!!!!!!!!!

  5. Rozie Rockett wrote
    “FREE MARKETS STIMULATE HEALTHY COMPITITION
    AND GIVE SENSE OF ACHIEVEMENT.”
    ==========
    No they don’t. The wealthy soak the 99%.
    The only meaningful competition is between the 1%
    to see who can steal the most from everybody else.

    YOU DON’T THINK STRAIGHT … BOY !!!!!!!!!!

  6. Rozie Rockett wrote
    “Canadas universal healthcare is very harmful because what your not being told is …if your primary dr finds cancer cells inside your labs you will not be made a priority INSTEAD YOU GET THE MRI/CATSCANi FREE BUT NOT IN THE TIME NEEDED TO ENSURE QUALITY OF LIFE”
    ===========
    It sounds like you are speaking from experience
    which raises my hopes
    because that means that you may get your dirt nap pretty soon …

    AND THE WORLD WILL BE A BETTER PLACE !!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Rozie Rockett wrote
    “all while the collectives elite BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ARE LIVING IT UP AT THE COMMUNITIES EXPENSE.”
    ==========
    If they are doing it behind closed doors … how do you know about it?

    DIDN’T THINK THAT ONE OUT FIRST … DIDJA !!!!!!!!!!

  8. Rozie Rockett wrote
    “Its core principal is equality nd if you work and u do more than average citizen you will not reap a little more. my opinion is the collective will isolate u and teach you that the community is better than just you, any talents, any gifts God bestowed upon your personage is all but indoctrinated or re=educated out of u.”
    ============
    Your amazing level of stupidity in your first 2 comments above
    should have tipped us off that you are a Ghost Worshiper.

    MORE DICTIONARY – LESS BIBLE = BIGGER BRAIN !!!!!!!!!!

  9. Rozie Rockett wrote
    “work harder….no work smarter and youll out due the collective .”
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    Study harder. Stay in school – and you wouldn’t have humiliated yourself in front of everyone on YouTube with your 2nd grade spelling.

    AREN’T THEIR FEEBLE LITTLE MINDS PRECIOUS !!!!!!!!!!

  10. Rozie Rockett wrote
    “social ism means government takes over everyone's business and gives to the public sector way less than they deserve.”
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    No. That is NOT what “social ism” (he can’t even spell it!) means.

    CONSERVATIVE COMMENTER CONFIRMED !!!!!!!!!!

  11. Vincent Mileto wrote
    “It does not take into account true human nature.
    =============
    Just because you are a greedy, selfish little prick …
    that doesn’t mean everyone else is.

    LOOK AT ME WHEN I’M TALKIN’ TO YOU … BOY !!!!!!!!!!

  12. Vincent Mileto wrote
    “Bull shit! Socialism works on paper only!”
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    Socialism is working GREAT here in The United States.
    We are the richest country on Earth.

    We have Social Security and Medicare.
    We have subsidies for Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Agriculture,
    and the Military-Industrial complex.
    We also have tons of tax loopholes
    for the Big Corporations and The Rich.

    Ask them how they could have survived without Socialism …
    and then be sure to get back to me with a memo.

    Oh, that’s right, they already confessed
    that they couldn’t survive without Socialism.
    That’s why the Big Banks, Wall Street, and the Big Automakers
    begged for taxpayer bailouts (Socialism)
    and got down on their knees to suck with all their might …
    on the government tit.

  13. Arthur Ramirez wrote
    The difference between what Jesus taught and socialism is that Jesus's system doesn't force people to participate. Where socialism does. Voluntary vs. Compulsory.”
    =============
    No one is interested in your imaginaweeee fwend.

    Advice:
    Go find yourself a nice Jesus channel
    where you can hang out
    with other Ghost Worshipers, like yourself,
    and circle jerk each other
    until the Holy Ghost drops by for a blow job.

    I’LL PRAY FOR YOU !!!!!!!!!!

  14. Das Snek
    “Nothing is free.”
    ===========
    Mentally disabled people get free stuff.

    SO THERE ARE RESOURCES FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU !!!!!!!!!

  15. william white whined
    “bully 380 wrote …Not much of anything really.
    Oh,shit? Is this where I 'BAM!" or something?
    I'm never sure with these things.
    ==============
    You complained about me posting on the main thread
    instead of using the reply feature.
    Yet, look at yourself now. I’ve got you doing the same thing.

    I have so much control over that little peanut head of yours,
    that I bet I could sodomize your mother right in front of you
    and convince you to record the whole thing on your cellphone.

    In the business, we refer to that as …

    BEHAVIOR MODIFICATION !!!!!!!!!!

  16. Michael Reed wrote
    “Socialism always starts slowly, and people think it's good. As time goes by over the generations more regulations over the peoples lives are enacted until eventually everybody will be assigned a position or a job if you will. If there is a socialist society that comes into being eventually a group people who think they deserve more than others will pervert it to their agenda.”
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    Thank you Miss Cleo for looking into your crystal ball
    and then dropping a bucketfull of wet steaming feces on us.

    Keep voting Republican. The rich sure do appreciate …

    YOUR SUPPORT !!!!!!!

  17. William Moeller
    You must have made this for ten year olds that know nothing about Hitler, Stalin, Mao, etc.”
    ==========
    Actually, those 10-year-olds are much smarter than you are
    because at least they know that socialism had nothing to do
    with the horrors committed by your list of dictators.

    I SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR CHILD RAPE !!!!!!!!!!

  18. Tom Noyb wrote
    “Healthy Lee enters the hospital for a routine checkup. Hospital has six terminally ill patients requiring various organ transplants. Lee happens to be a tissue-match for all six. Socialist doctors harvest Lee's organs and save all six at the expense of Lee's life. That's socialism. Universal health care. "Taxing the rich" is nothing more than the mob stealing from Lee.”
    =========
    Nice false analogy,
    but only other low-information conservatives would fall for it.

    Taxing the rich isn’t stealing –
    it’s taking back some of what the rich stole from everyone else.

    I JUST HANDED YOU, YOUR DICK … ON A PLATE !!!!!!!!!!

  19. Das Snek (or whichever sock puppet you are using today)
    I have been beating the holy living DickSnot out of you every day for months
    and the jury is in … and it didn’t go very well for you.

    How do we know?

    About 6 months ago when I began bitch-slapping the crap out of you,
    the like/dislike ratio was below 55%. Now it is over 61%.

    But look at the number of comments.
    There were about 20,000 comments when it was 55%.
    So the ratio applied to the comments = 11,000-9,000.

    There are now over 24,000 comments at 61%.
    So the ratio applied to the comments = 14,640-9,360).

    14,640-11,000=3,640 vs. 9,360-9,000=360.
    3,640 / 4,000 = over 90%!

    But the video didn’t change, so why the huge improvement in the ratio?
    (Hint: scroll back to paragraph 1, line 2).

    The only possible conclusion that can be drawn from that data is …
    the audience is no longer fooled by your bullshit.
    All your efforts have been completely in vain.

    I FEEL LIKE ACHILLES DRAGGING HECTOR’S BODY
    BEHIND HIS CHARIOT AFTER BEHEADING HIM !!!!!!!!!!

  20. There are many valid points, but many that are also misleading.
    much of what is cited (especially the bible verses) falls under the idea of charity rather than socialism. Capitalistic societies also believe these things as they are very heavy on the idea of charity– helping to provide for the less fortunate, but they do not want government to force them to provide charity nor dictate who their charity must go to (socialistic). The idea of current socialist countries is also misleading as their socialism aspects are only successful due to the heavy capitalist foundation supporting it… They are more capitalist than socialist. Also do not forget that other countries capitalist actions (namely America) are what allow other countries to have successful socialist sections of society– it is the capitalist medical technology (including medicine) which advances medicine/healing and is used throughout the world. Without the capitalist industry medical advancements would slow and our medical knowledge would be set back decades. It is also unrealistic to suggest that a capitalist society is not an egalitarian society as they also provide the same rules and opportunities for all…no one is held back.
    I understand the idea of explaining what socialism is…especially with the word being thrown around so much…but please be mindful to try and explain the balance– from what you said I assume you agree that a pure socialistic country in today's world would not be successful (hence the focus about partially socialistic governments), but you need to also let people know that without the heavy capitalist foundation those countries would not flourish…and to be fair they are more capitalist than socialist at their core, plus if there isn't any country providing a capitalist foundation for an industry so the socialist countries can steal the technology then that industry will falter and move forward at a snails pace hindering us more.
    Just a worry about people watching this video and thinking "socialism is great and we don't need capitalism" because I don't think that is what you wanted to say since you seem smart enough to know that we can't have socialism dominate as the main form of government and be successful in today's society.

  21. Ken Colborn wrote
    “Just a worry about people watching this video and thinking "socialism is great and we don't need capitalism" because I don't think that is what you wanted to say since you seem smart enough to know that we can't have socialism dominate as the main form of government and be successful in today's society.”
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    The assertion king has spoken.
    Let’s all hope that we never have to go through that again.

    I think I speak for everyone here when I say
    that we all hope that someday your eyesocket is found …
    in a pile of rattlesnake poop.

    CAN I GET AN AMEN PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!

  22. Ken Colborn wrote
    “plus if there isn't any country providing a capitalist foundation for an industry so the socialist countries can steal the technology then that industry will falter and move forward at a snails pace hindering us more.”
    ===========
    At this point, I think the best thing for you to do is …
    Step away from the keyboard;
    go smoke some dope; have a brewski;
    have sex with your blowup Betty Doll
    (or Bob Doll if that's your thing);
    take a widdle nappie;
    and then when you've gotten your hysterics under control
    and changed into a fresh diaper …
    come back and play.

    JUST TRYIN’ TO HELP THE GUY !!!!!!!!!!

  23. Ken Colborn wrote
    “and to be fair they are more capitalist than socialist at their core”
    ==========
    How in the world do you plan on supporting that assertion?

    I was right earlier … you ARE the assertion king.

    NO CONTEST !!!!!!!!!!

  24. Ken Colborn wrote
    “but you need to also let people know that without the heavy capitalist foundation those countries would not flourish”
    ===========
    And yet, before Capitalism began in the early 17th century …
    somehow countries did flourish. Imagine that!

    THIS GUY IS TOOOOOOOOO EASY !!!!!!!!!!

  25. Ken Colborn wrote
    “from what you said I assume you agree that a pure socialistic country in today's world would not be successful (hence the focus about partially socialistic governments)”
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    There has never existed a “pure socialistic country” in Earth’s history.
    So your point, or position, or whatever it is,
    is nothing more than some delusion in that little peanut head of yours.

    REEEEEEEEEEE-JECTED !!!!!!!!!!

  26. Ken Colborn wrote
    “I understand the idea of explaining what socialism is…especially with the word being thrown around so much…but please be mindful to try and explain the balance—
    ==========
    I’ll be sure to pass your suggestion on to Pakman
    if you google “Grammar Girl” and learn how to use a fuckin’ ellipsis.
    It isn’t all the hard once you get the hang of it.
    And while you are there, check out how to use hyphens.

    I SHOULD BE CHARGING THIS GUY TUITION !!!!!!!!!!

  27. Ken Colborn wrote
    “It is also unrealistic to suggest that a capitalist society is not an egalitarian society as they also provide the same rules and opportunities for all…no one is held back.”
    ==========
    Someone forgot to tell the poor people, and the struggling middle class people, and the … (you get the picture).

    Your lies only fool other low-information conservaties, like yourself.

    THERE’S ANOTHER TURD IN YOUR PUNCHBOWL !!!!!!!!!!

  28. Ken Colborn wrote
    “it is the capitalist medical technology (including medicine) which advances medicine/healing and is used throughout the world. Without the capitalist industry medical advancements would slow and our medical knowledge would be set back decades.”
    ===========
    Ya kinda forgot about all those billions of taxpayer funds
    for research and grants, didn’t ya Bubbles?

    I’VE HAD HARDER DEBATES WITH GOLDFISH !!!!!!!!!!

  29. Ken Colborn wrote
    “Also do not forget that other countries capitalist actions (namely America) are what allow other countries to have successful socialist sections of society”
    ==========
    See requests above.

    You are an “assertion machine”

  30. Ken Colborn wrote
    “They are more capitalist than socialist.”
    ===========
    I suppose it would be a waste of time to ask you to back up that one, huh?

    I TOLD YA HE COULDN’T DO IT !!!!!!!!!!

  31. Ken Colborn wrote
    “The idea of current socialist countries is also misleading as their socialism aspects are only successful due to the heavy capitalist foundation supporting it”
    ==========
    And your evidence for that is?

    Just as we thought – you haven’t got a clue how to back up that assertion
    that you just pulled out of your ass.

    TOO EASY !!!!!!!!!!

  32. Ken Colborn wrote
    “much of what is cited (especially the bible verses) falls under the idea of charity rather than socialism. Capitalistic societies also believe these things as they are very heavy on the idea of charity– helping to provide for the less fortunate, but they do not want government to force them to provide charity nor dictate who their charity must go to (socialistic).”
    ===========
    Nice self-contradiction.
    Your opening sentence states that
    there is a difference between charity and socialism.

    Then you conclude by calling charity … socialistic.

    (Sports Fans: I don’t even have to debate this guy.
    He debates himself … and loses!)

    SOMEONE HAD TO TELL HIM !!!!!!!!!!

  33. I think social welfare is a good thing but it can go too far especially when it provides incentives or removes the need to work and get married. I love capitalism because making your own money and keeping it is one of the best feelings. Personally, I think taxation is wrong but I understand the need in order to provide basics to those in poverty in a country. However, high taxes destroy the middle class and is morally wrong. A society based on capitalism with some socialist principles to support those that fail under capitalism is necessary in my opinion, I think it's called democratic socialism but am not entirely sure. The term is very broad because I don't know what ratio of socialism to capitalism it involves, it's probably more socialism (because of the name) which I think isnt right because socialism even with democracy demonises those with lots of money, costs an incredible amount of money (for the government to take over all industries) and leads to totalitarianism. I would like to hear other opinions because I have been learning about this for a few years now and would love to gain a better perspective by the time I can vote

  34. izzy khan wrote
    “I would like to hear other opinions because I have been learning about this for a few years now and would love to gain a better perspective by the time I can vote”
    =========
    You don’t need opinions – you need education.
    But how do you know what to believe
    when you’ve got conservatives lying to you about everything
    in order to keep the money rolling in for the wealthy?

    Advice:
    I would start here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formal_fallacy

    GOOD LUCK !!!!!!!!!

  35. izzy khan wrote
    “costs an incredible amount of money (for the government to take over all industries) and leads to totalitarianism.”
    ==========
    Now you are just pulling crap out of your ass.
    I say that we all help him put it back where he got it.

    CAN I GET AN AMEN PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!

  36. izzy khan wrote
    “The term is very broad because I don't know what ratio of socialism to capitalism it involves, it's probably more socialism (because of the name) which I think isnt right because socialism even with democracy demonises those with lots of money”
    =========
    No one has to demonize those with lots of money:
    they do that …

    ALL BY THEMSELVES !!!!!!!!!!!!

  37. izzy khan wrote
    “A society based on capitalism with some socialist principles to support those that fail under capitalism is necessary in my opinion, I think it's called democratic socialism but am not entirely sure.”
    ==========
    Then why don’t you look it up, and after you educate yourself,
    then come back and post it, instead of advertising your ignorance
    to everyone on YouTube?

  38. izzy khan wrote
    “However, high taxes destroy the middle class and is morally wrong.”
    =========
    High taxes are destroying the middle class.
    Don’t you ever read?

    Why are you even here?

  39. izzy khan wrote
    “Personally, I think taxation is wrong but I understand the need in order to provide basics to those in poverty in a country.”
    ===========
    What about the military.
    How you gonna provide for that without taxes?

    Do you think at all?

  40. izzy khan wrote
    “I love capitalism because making your own money and keeping it is one of the best feelings.”
    =======
    Where in the world did you get the idea that working for the government isn’t making your own money?

    And keeping it is “one of the best feelings?” Haven’t you ever had sex?

    YOU DON’T THINK STRAIGHT … BOY !!!!!!!!!!

  41. izzy khan wrote
    “I think social welfare is a good thing but it can go too far especially when it provides incentives or removes the need to work and get married.”
    ==========
    What is wrong with providing incentives?
    Isn’t that what capitalism does?

    Name a social welfare program that removes the need to work.

    Why should getting married have anything to do with it?

    WAITING !!!!!!!!!!

  42. You started by making a point that socialism isn't just Communism then said Communism is a perversion of socialism. At this point I was nodding my head. Then you threw Egypt and ancient cultures that to my knowledge were not egalitarian nor had any sort of joint or communal ownership. A king or Emperor doesn't nationalize something, they take it for themselves
    At this point it seemed off to me because you seemed to be saying socialism is just command economy. Still liked the video. Thanks.

  43. Anyone else want to see this guy talk to Ben Shapiro? A debate between them would be a teriffic thing to watch / litsen to.

  44. Das Snek wrote
    “Bully 380 seems like the kind of edgy white kid
    who would shoot up an elementary school”
    ==========
    Only if I could be absolutely sure that your kids were inside.

  45. Evan Hunt wrote
    “Anyone else want to see this guy talk to Ben Shapiro?
    A debate between them would be a teriffic thing to watch / litsen to.”
    =========
    You must be kidding?
    That would be like Bambi meets Godzilla.
    Shapiro is a climate-denier. He is a loon.
    Bambi would have a better chance against Godzilla.

  46. The title is somewhat misleading. "Debunked: Socialism has never worked". I feel like this is being used to sell Socialism as a viable option. I think anyone would agree that socialism has worked… for an hour, a day, or even a week. I'll even go to say it has probably worked a couple of years. The problem is that it's not sustainable for the long term. Chiapas, Mexico is noted in this video as an example of Anarchist Socialism as a success. I was curious about this and it didn't take me long to find info on Chiapas. The first thing that comes up (wikipedia) states the following:
    "However, Chiapas remains one of the poorest states in Mexico. Ninety-four of its 111 municipalities have a large percentage of the population living in poverty. In areas such as Ocosingo, Altamirano and Las Margaritas, the towns where the Zapatistas first came into prominence in 1994, 48% of the adults are illiterate. Chiapas is still considered[by whom?] isolated and distant from the rest of Mexico, both culturally and geographically. It has significantly underdeveloped infrastructure compared to the rest of the country, and its significant indigenous population with isolationist tendencies keep the state distinct culturally.[73] Cultural stratification, neglect and lack of investment by the Mexican federal government has exacerbated this problem."
    I don't think being one of the poorest states in the Mexico is what I would call a success. If you research any of the examples in this video, you will find that Socialism (no matter what type (because there are so many and they are so complex) may work in theory and in the real world for a very short time, are not sustainable. Don't take my comments as the source of truth, please research this on your own.

  47. Scandinavian countries "may be socialistic" but "are not realisations of socialism…"
    Later on, says that aspects of socialism have worked.
    Concludes that, therefore, it is wrong to say "socialism has never worked".
    That's what the great philosophers would call a "fallacy".

  48. hfd1 wrote
    “If you research any of the examples in this video, you will find that Socialism (no matter what type (because there are so many and they are so complex) may work in theory and in the real world for a very short time, are not sustainable.”
    ========
    Scroll back up 4 replies and you’ll see why everyone here is laughing at you.

    I have thrashed you around like a lion with a gazelle in its jaws.
    Dude, there isn't enough left of you … to make Road Kill Soup.
    You are hereby Disssssssssss-Misssssssssssed …

    NEXT !!!!!!!!!!

  49. hfd1 wrote
    “I don't think being one of the poorest states in the Mexico is what I would call a success.”
    ==========
    I agree. That’s why you should scroll back up 3 replies
    and refresh your memory of what a success story really sounds like.

  50. hfd1 wrote
    “In areas such as Ocosingo, Altamirano and Las Margaritas, the towns where the Zapatistas first came into prominence in 1994, 48% of the adults are illiterate. Chiapas is still considered[by whom?] isolated and distant from the rest of Mexico, both culturally and geographically. It has significantly underdeveloped infrastructure compared to the rest of the country, and its significant indigenous population with isolationist tendencies keep the state distinct culturally. Cultural stratification, neglect and lack of investment by the Mexican federal government has exacerbated this problem."
    ===========
    Okay, now scroll back up 2 previous replies to remind yourself
    how badly I scorched that little fannie of yours.

  51. hfd1 wrote
    “Chiapas, Mexico is noted in this video as an example of Anarchist Socialism as a success. I was curious about this and it didn't take me long to find info on Chiapas. The first thing that comes up (wikipedia) states the following:
    "However, Chiapas remains one of the poorest states in Mexico. Ninety-four of its 111 municipalities have a large percentage of the population living in poverty.”
    ==========
    For a real success story, you should scroll back up to my previous reply
    where I basically handed you your ass … in a fuckin’ jar.

  52. Pakman and his followers are stupid cunts. I attempted to think of something thoughtful that might be helpful, but I don't give a shit anymore. These idiots are fucking everything up. You people need to grow up.

  53. hfd1 wrote
    “I feel like this is being used to sell Socialism as a viable option. I think anyone would agree that socialism has worked… for an hour, a day, or even a week. I'll even go to say it has probably worked a couple of years. The problem is that it's not sustainable for the long term.”
    =========
    Socialism is working GREAT here in The United States.
    And has been for many, many decades.
    We are the richest country on Earth.

    We have Social Security and Medicare.
    We have subsidies for Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Agriculture,
    and the Military-Industrial complex.
    We also have tons of tax loopholes
    for the Big Corporations and The Rich.

    Ask them how they could have survived without Socialism …
    and then be sure to get back to me with a memo.

    Oh, that’s right, they already confessed
    that they couldn’t survive without Socialism.
    That’s why the Big Banks, Wall Street, and the Big Automakers
    begged for taxpayer bailouts (Socialism)
    and got down on their knees to suck with all their might …
    on the government tit.

  54. TheBaggyT wrote
    “Scandinavian countries "may be socialistic"
    but "are not realisations of socialism…"
    Later on, says that aspects of socialism have worked.
    Concludes that, therefore, it is wrong to say "socialism has never worked".
    That's what the great philosophers would call a "fallacy".
    =============
    Watching you verbally piss all over yourself
    provides an interesting spectacle,
    but nothing tangible to reply to.

    THANKS FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT !!!!!!!!!!

  55. Chris Brown wrote
    “These idiots are fucking everything up. You people need to grow up.”
    ==========
    Aw, did poor widdle boo boo get his widdle fee-wings hurt?
    Waaah Waaah Waaah Waaah Waaah Waaah
    Are you gonna cwy?
    Are tears streaming down your widdle cheekies?
    Is your lower lip trembling uncontrollably?

    Advice:
    CVS is having a sale on Butt Cream.
    I recommend you pick up about 5 gallons …
    before supplies run out.

    SO ARE YA LEAVIN’ NOW !!!!!!!!!!!

  56. Chris Brown wrote
    “I attempted to think of something thoughtful that might be helpful,
    but I don't give a shit anymore.”
    ==========
    Thank you so much!
    Does that mean you will finally be leaving now?

    DON’T LET THE DOOR HIT YA IN DA ASS !!!!!!!!!!!!

  57. Chris Brown wrote
    “Pakman and his followers are stupid cunts.”
    =========
    What a brilliant argument!
    It’s easy to see why no one messes with you.

    So tell us what has you overflowing your little diaper with liquid feces.

  58. So which socialist society truly has a people owned collective where the people own and "control" the businesses and property?

  59. Pete McWade wrote
    “So which socialist society truly has a people owned collective
    where the people own and "control" the businesses and property?”
    ==========
    There is no nation on Earth where that has ever existed.
    Every country has a combination of Capitalism and Socialism.

    This is not something that you should have to be told.

  60. Venezuela: “Right wing authoritarian type of socialism”. The level of contortion you have to go to justify the failures of socialism: put “right wing” in the same sentence😆.

  61. alarriag1 wrote
    "Venezuela: “Right wing authoritarian type of socialism”. The level of contortion you have to go to justify the failures of socialism: put “right wing” in the same sentence"
    ============
    Socialism is working GREAT here in The United States.
    We are the richest country on Earth.

    We have Social Security and Medicare.
    We have subsidies for Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Agriculture,
    and the Military-Industrial complex.
    We also have tons of tax loopholes
    for the Big Corporations and The Rich.

    Ask them how they could have survived without Socialism …
    and then be sure to get back to me with a memo.

    Oh, that’s right, they already confessed
    that they couldn’t survive without Socialism.
    That’s why the Big Banks, Wall Street, and the Big Automakers
    begged for taxpayer bailouts (Socialism)
    and got down on their knees to suck with all their might …
    on the government tit.

  62. Das Snek (or whichever sock puppet you are using today)
    I have been beating the holy living DickSnot out of you every day for months
    and the jury is in … and it didn’t go very well for you.

    How do we know?

    About 6 months ago when I began bitch-slapping the crap out of you,
    the like/dislike ratio was below 55%. Now it is over 61%.

    But look at the number of comments.
    There were about 20,000 comments when it was 55%.
    So the ratio applied to the comments = 11,000-9,000.

    There are now over 24,000 comments at 61%.
    So the ratio applied to the comments = 14,640-9,360).

    14,640-11,000=3,640 vs. 9,360-9,000=360.
    3,640 / 4,000 = over 90%!

    But the video didn’t change, so why the huge improvement in the ratio?
    (Hint: scroll back to paragraph 1, line 2).

    The only possible conclusion that can be drawn from that data is …
    the audience is no longer fooled by your bullshit.
    All your efforts have been completely in vain.

    I FEEL LIKE ACHILLES DRAGGING HECTOR’S BODY
    BEHIND HIS CHARIOT AFTER BEHEADING HIM !!!!!!!!!!

  63. “Socialism: collective ownership of the means of production” This is exactly the problem with socialism. The definition itself is so broad, relative and ambiguous that opens wide the door to snake oil salesmen to use it for their own gain, always in the name of the “people”. Next thing will be renaming democratic Capitalism as Socialism and scream that Socialism has always worked!

  64. Amazing how every time something in this video was oppressive, it was preceded by right wing. Goddamn libtards.

  65. I've lived socialism. It never worked and it never will. Who ever claims the opposite is a dangerous idiot that we should a run away from. Like this one here.

  66. Chris Irinoiu wrote
    “I've lived socialism. It never worked and it never will. Who ever claims the opposite is a dangerous idiot that we should a run away from. Like this one here.”
    ===========
    Socialism is working GREAT here in The United States.
    We are the richest country on Earth.

    We have Social Security and Medicare.
    We have subsidies for Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Agriculture,
    and the Military-Industrial complex.
    We also have tons of tax loopholes
    for the Big Corporations and The Rich.

    Ask them how they could have survived without Socialism …
    and then be sure to get back to me with a memo.

    Oh, that’s right, they already confessed
    that they couldn’t survive without Socialism.
    That’s why the Big Banks, Wall Street, and the Big Automakers
    begged for taxpayer bailouts (Socialism)
    and got down on their knees to suck with all their might …
    on the government tit.

    I JUST SHIT ALL OVER YOUR PROPAGANDA !!!!!!!!!!

  67. President Megtawma wrote
    “Goddamn libtards.”
    ==========
    (Sports Fans: that’s always the sign that you’re dealing with a high IQ person. For conservatives, a high IQ is anything in the double digits)

    AREN’T THEIR FEEBLE LITTLE MINDS PRECIOUS !!!!!!!!!!

  68. alarriag1 wrote
    “Socialism: collective ownership of the means of production” This is exactly the problem with socialism. The definition itself is so broad, relative and ambiguous that opens wide the door to snake oil salesmen to use it for their own gain, always in the name of the “people”. Next thing will be renaming democratic Capitalism as Socialism and scream that Socialism has always worked!”
    =============
    Calm down Bubbles and get your hysterics under control.
    We know how big words really bother you conservatives,
    but spending some quiet time with Mr. Webster
    wouldn’t hurt that little peanut head of yours
    nearly as much as you think it would. Try it!

    JUST TRYIN’ TO HELP THE GUY !!!!!!!!!!

  69. This young man speaks well but he is very condescending and elitist. His use of the Bible is way off base. The Bible tells the individual to do this not force others to contribute. His dialogue on the Bible misses the point. Obama was defiantly more socialist than others. ‘Spread the wealth” is a socialist mantra. All government has social programs but it quickly becomes a way to purchase support from the populace by stealing money from another part of the populace. Methinks this young man learned this in college and has no real experience.
    The term “libertarian socialist”is like saying “short tall”.
    I believe Catalonia would have failed in time.
    To the average citizen all these forms of government would seem the same, fascist, Marxist, socialism, communism etc.
    The best phrase would be Balkanization ie. Trying to make something the same different.

  70. 🤔 If socialism works so wonderfully, then why are all socialist countries in dire straits, with their citizens fleeing to HERE , the US?
    😐 The idea of socialism works. Socialism put into effect in this world with it's many greedy, power hungry, corrupt individials makes for a swift downward spiral into hell on earth.

  71. The Right is correct when they say Socialism has never worked. However, Social Democracies have and do work. Every country has a socialistic bent to it. Even the US does(I won't bore you w/ the many examples the US has.) However, the right slides into obtuseness by equating it w/ Communism(either by design or ignorance.) Capitalism unchecked inevitably leads to a Great Depression or the Great Recession(once controls were loosened by Bubba with overwhelming GOP support.) Regulation of the US economy led to the greatest expansion of the middle class the world has over seen. With it emerged Social Security, Medicare(""git your government hands off my Medicare"), unemployment insurance, ect.. Now all of that has been whittled down while the gap between the rich and poor has grown to level's unseen since right before the Great Depression. Coincidence? Now the same people who love SS and Medicare vote for people who want to cut it. WTF? Learn your history from other sources than Fox news. Jesus Christ

  72. Kevin McMichael wrote
    “To the average citizen all these forms of government
    would seem the same, fascist, Marxist, socialism, communism etc.
    ==========
    The average citizen has one testicle.

    Come on Dude, keep your guard up.
    You are making this …

    WAAAAAAAY TOO EASY !!!!!!!!!!

  73. Kevin McMichael wrote
    “All government has social programs but it quickly becomes a way to purchase support from the populace by stealing money from another part of the populace. Methinks this young man learned this in college and has no real experience.”
    ==========
    Methinks thou art an ignorant buffoon
    who isn’t the mindreader that you perceive yourself to be.

    YOU FAILED AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!

  74. Kevin McMichael wrote
    “Spread the wealth is a socialist mantra.”
    ==========
    Actually, it is pretty much a universal human mantra …
    except among the rich.

    THERE … FIXED THAT FOR YA !!!!!!!!!!

  75. Kevin McMichael wrote
    “Obama was defiantly more socialist than others.”
    =======
    “defiantly?”

    Spelling alert! Spelling alert!

    CONSERVATIVE COMMENTER CONFIRMED !!!!!!!!!!

  76. Kevin McMichael wrote
    “His use of the Bible is way off base. The Bible tells the individual to do this not force others to contribute. His dialogue on the Bible misses the point.”
    ===========
    No one is interested in your ancient book of immoral fairy tales.
    If you have an argument … let’s hear it.

    CHOP CHOP !!!!!!!!!!

  77. Kevin McMichael wrote
    “This young man speaks well but he is very condescending and elitist.”
    ==========
    My, we are a judgmental little prick, aren’t we?

    Guess he didn’t tell you what you wanted to hear, huh Bubbles?

    TRIGGERED !!!!!!!!!!

  78. She Who Knows All wrote
    “If socialism works so wonderfully, then why are all socialist countries in dire straits, with their citizens fleeing to HERE , the US?”
    ==========
    There is no such thing as a “socialist” country.
    So your comment is destroyed before it even begins.

    TOO EASY !!!!!!!!!!

  79. Socialism can only work if the world population is small. Why kill off billions of people when you can have hundreds of billions strive? This is why I'm a laissez-faire capitalist.

  80. this video was so helpful and informative. thank you david pls keep making content like this! i am here for it !!

  81. Gaming With Noah wrote
    “This is why I'm a laissez-faire capitalist.”
    ==========
    Let’s be honest: you are a laissez-faire capitalist
    because you are a greedy, selfish prick.

    GO BACK TO YOUR VIDEO GAMES !!!!!!!!!!
    https://www.newser.com/story/275681/gaming-disorder-now-an-official-illness.html

  82. Gaming With Noah wrote
    “Why kill off billions of people
    when you can have hundreds of billions strive?”
    ==========
    Hundreds of billions don’t thrive.
    Only the very top thrive.
    Everyone else pays for it.

    That is something you should not have to be told.

    YOU AIN’T ALL THAT BRIGHT … ARE YA SON !!!!!!!!!!

  83. Gaming With Noah wrote
    “Socialism can only work if the world population is small.”
    ===========
    Socialism is working GREAT here in The United States.
    We are the richest country on Earth.

    We have Social Security and Medicare.
    We have subsidies for Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Agriculture,
    and the Military-Industrial complex.
    We also have tons of tax loopholes
    for the Big Corporations and The Rich.

    Ask them how they could have survived without Socialism …
    and then be sure to get back to me with a memo.

    Oh, that’s right, they already confessed
    that they couldn’t survive without Socialism.
    That’s why the Big Banks, Wall Street, and the Big Automakers
    begged for taxpayer bailouts (Socialism)
    and got down on their knees to suck with all their might …
    on the government tit.

  84. Das Snek (or whichever sock puppet you are using today)
    I have been beating the holy living DickSnot out of you every day for months
    and the jury is in … and it didn’t go very well for you.

    How do we know?

    About 6 months ago when I began bitch-slapping the crap out of you,
    the like/dislike ratio was below 55%. Now it is over 61%.

    But look at the number of comments.
    There were about 20,000 comments when it was 55%.
    So the ratio applied to the comments = 11,000-9,000.

    There are now over 24,000 comments at 61%.
    So the ratio applied to the comments = 14,640-9,360).

    14,640-11,000=3,640 vs. 9,360-9,000=360.
    3,640 / 4,000 = over 90%!

    But the video didn’t change, so why the huge improvement in the ratio?
    (Hint: scroll back to paragraph 1, line 2).

    The only possible conclusion that can be drawn from that data is …
    the audience is no longer fooled by your bullshit.
    All your efforts have been completely in vain.

    I FEEL LIKE ACHILLES DRAGGING HECTOR’S BODY
    BEHIND HIS CHARIOT AFTER BEHEADING HIM !!!!!!!!!!

  85. So capitalist is f you I want to be better and have more then you so I can feel better about my self and thank God I'm not you Capitalism. Is that right?

  86. Kelly Cole wrote
    “So capitalist is f you I want to be better and have more then you so I can feel better about my self and thank God I'm not you Capitalism. Is that right?”
    ============
    Google “Straw Man” logical fallacy.

    Your picture should appear somewhere near the top of the page.

    TOO EASY !!!!!!!!!!

  87. 🖕Socialism 🖕 Free market is the only society that works. I bet this man used power point bought on a computer that had Microsoft software. What a socialist hypocrite.

  88. John Dough wrote
    “I bet this man used power point bought on a computer
    that had Microsoft software. What a socialist hypocrite.”
    ==========
    How convenient of you to leave out the billions of dollars
    in socialism that Microsoft steals from American taxpayers
    in the form of rebates, loopholes, incentives, subsidies, etc.

    I JUST SHIT ON YOUR FACE !!!!!!!!!!

  89. Most any ism will work in a 100% light skinned society … start adding melanin … and the whole thing goes to poo poo.

    What? You doubt?

    Just look up the "worst cities in the world to live" … the darker the skin of the population … the more poverty and crime.

    Good day.

  90. Joe Citizen wrote
    “Most any ism will work in a 100% light skinned society … start adding melanin … and the whole thing goes to poo poo.What? You doubt? Just look up the "worst cities in the world to live" … the darker the skin of the population … the more poverty and crime.”
    ============
    It’s always nice to hear from THE KLAN before bedtime.

    When your friends see a cowboy hat
    sitting on top of a pair of boots,
    they naturally assume
    that you got the shit kicked out of you …
    again.

    CLEANING UP THE CESSPOOL OF LIFE …
    ONE TURD AT A TIME !!!!!!!!!!

  91. i agree there are plenty of examples where socialism has worked but i wouldnt say stalin and mao were right wing totalitarians because it implies they were corporatists which they werent. They are preversions of marx’s original ideas where a dictator saw an opportunity to rise to power after the revolutions which created these systems

  92. KLJF wrote
    “BULLY 380 , IS A TOTAL TWAT …. AND I'M VERY LEFT WING .
    THE HOMEBOUND SPASTIC HAS BEEN STOPPED FROM PARTICIPATING .”
    =============
    What I would have given
    to be sitting right next to KLJF at his keyboard
    when his water broke and tears flooded down his widdle cheekies
    and he ran screaming to Mommy YouTube to save him.

    “Mommy YouTube! Mommy YouTube!
    Help me Mommy YouTube!
    Big Bad Man hurt widdle boo boo fee-wings!
    Block him Mommy YouTube! Pleeeeeeze …
    BLOCK HIM!”

    THANKS FOR WAVING THE WHITE FLAG SNOWFLAKE !!!!!!!!!!

  93. Evan wrote
    “Hitler's NAZI Germany actually worked pretty well”
    =============
    The Nazis can call themselves whatever they want.
    But that doesn’t make them Socialists.
    https://www.abc.net.au/religion/nazism-socialism-and-the-falsification-of-history/10214302

    The official name of North Korea
    is the “Democratic People's Republic of Korea.”

    You buy that? Do you see any Democracy there?
    (hint: No … you don’t)

    I JUST BUTT FUCKED YOUR FACE !!!!!!!!!!

  94. Klaus Menendez wrote
    “i agree there are plenty of examples where socialism has worked but i wouldnt say stalin and mao were right wing totalitarians because it implies they were corporatists which they werent.”
    ===========
    Nice demonstration of the “Straw Man” logical fallacy
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

    It’s obvious that logic … isn’t in your toolset.

    MULTIPLE ORGASMS CONFIRMED !!!!!!!!!!

  95. Methane wrote
    “Eventually, you'll run out of people's money under socialism.”
    =============
    Then why hasn’t it happened yet?

    Can’t answer, canya Dipshit?

    I TOTALLY ASS FUCKED THIS DUDE !!!!!!!!!!

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