Corey R. Lewandowski, David Bossie and Steve Strang – Liberty University Convocation

Corey R. Lewandowski, David Bossie and Steve Strang – Liberty University Convocation


>>JERRY FALWELL JR: Good morning. this is the last regular Convocation of the
semester, right David?>>DAVID NASSER: One more with Harlem Globetrotters.>>FALWELL: I know the Harlem Globetrotters,
but they had to use their Convo skips by the end of the semester, right? Okay, so I see a lot of them are using them
today. That’s my fault. I gave… Didn’t we give them an extra one? We gave them an extra Convo skip, Corey and
Robert, because they turned out in such big numbers to vote. So, a lot of them are using it today. But don’t take it personally;
It has nothing to do with you guys. It’s just the end of the semester. But we’ve got some very special guests here
today. First, I want to mention there’s an article
that I Tweeted out last night that really compliments you as a student body. It’s from Virginia Business Magazine, and
it’s about how Liberty, how you as students have gone the extra mile to serve others and
to fulfil the Christian mission of the school. I really think you’ll enjoy it if you take
time to read it. It’s by Heather Hayes, a local reporter here
who wrote for that magazine. So, if you get a chance, take a look at that. You’ll be proud of yourselves. First of all, Steve Strang is here. He’s the founder of Charisma Magazine. He’s an award-winning journalist. He’s an entrepreneur, businessman, and author. His newest book is God and Donald Trump. Charisma Magazine, I’ve always heard, has
a bigger circulation than Christianity Today. I believe that’s still true. And he’s just doing an incredible work in
the Christian world in so many ways. Thank you for being here, Steve. And also, we have Corey Lewandowski. He’s a political operative, commentator for
one America News Network, Fox News, CNN. He and I became good friends last year during
the campaign, because he was the former campaign manager for Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential
campaign. He’s the co-author of the book, Let Trump
be Trump, because anybody that’s ever been around him knows if you don’t let him be him,
you’re going to get kicked out. So, I think that’s a good title. David Bossie’s also here. David and Corey have been on news shows all
week, Fox, and other networks talking about their book. But David has served as president of Citizens
United since 2001 as Deputy Campaign Manager of Trump’s 2016 campaign. He was ranked number two in Politico’s top
50 most influential people in American politics. He’s co-author of the book I just mentioned
Let Trump be Trump. David has produced 25 documentaries since
2004. He coproduced six feature-length films. And so, please welcome all three of our guests
to Liberty University-Steve, Corey, and David. We know you’ve got exams coming up, so we’ll
try to get you out early today. Robert, is this the second Convo that you’ve
done with the Center for Law and Government? This is the second Convocation. Robert heads the Center for Law and Government. He’s a former congressman from Southern Virginia,
and he only stayed in, what, four years?>>ROBERT HUNT: Six years.>>FALWELL: Six years, and you got out. I wish they all would get out after six years,
but anyhow. Where do you want me to sit? They told me to sit here, so we’ll sit here. All right, well I’ll let you guys lead off
and just tell us- Steve, start with you-
tell us what you’ve been doing with Charisma Magazine, and tell us about the new book and
anything you like.>>STEVE STRANG: Well, Charisma Magazine is
a spiritual magazine that we devoted our entire October issue to Donald Trump. And we published articles from Christian prophets,
modern-day prophets who predicted he’d win beyond all odds, and he did. And that led one thing to another until I
wrote this book, because I thought it was important to talk about the spiritual aspect
of what’s going on, not just the politics.>>FALWELL: Well, you supported Cruz first,
right? I’ve had so many Christians come up to me
and tell me recently, “I supported Cruz. I thought you were crazy when you supported
Trump, but you turned out to be right.”>>STRANG: You were right.>>FALWELL: And things like Supreme Court
Justice Gorsuch, and you see Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel-
what many presidents have promised to do. Many presidents have promised to do, but never
had the guts or the integrity to follow through. You know, you have to… Mike Evans, who is a big supporter on that
issue, is calling Trump the modern-day equivalent of King Cyrus from the Old Testament. Do you want to comment on that?>>STRANG: Well I agree with that. In fact, for me, that was kind of what made
me vote for Trump, you know? Because he’s not the kind of person that evangelicals
would normally look. Someone more like Mike Huckabee is more my
speed, but a friend of mine said that he believed that God was raising him up like Cyrus. And the Bible says in Isaiah 45, I have called
you even though you do not know me. And it was like, you know, the people in the
Bible were not perfect at all. But yet, God used them, and He used a pagan
king from Persia to send His people back to Jerusalem.>>FALWELL: And so many recent Republican
leaders, presidents and otherwise, have made-like Jesus said-
maybe cleaned the outside of the platter, but inside are ravenous wolves. I just keep going back to that passage, and
I think it’s->>STRANG: You’re absolutely right.>>FALWELL: And they seem like they’re good,
decent people, good family people, but when it comes down to, look how they acted when
Trump won. I mean, they’ve been trying to sabotage him
ever since. And they just don’t act anything but Christian.>>STRANG: Yeah, the amazing thing is he has
championed the values that you and I, and most of these students would believe in better
than people who had better credentials like George W. Bush who is a good man, but he just
didn’t come through on a lot of stuff. And Trump is coming through again, and again,
and again, and I believe that gradually, the people who don’t like him are going to come
over.>>FALWELL: See, that’s what I say. When it comes to politics, Jesus separated. He said, “Render unto Caesar the things that
are Caesar’s and to God…” I always say that, I know. But you can’t judge somebody according to
how good they are and decide on who you’re going to vote for based on that, because we’re
all sinners. And Jesus said if you’ve ever lusted after
a man, after a woman in your heart, as you’re just as guilty as the guy who’s had adultery. So, they’re all the same. You vote the way you think is best for your
country, and I think that’s what evangelicals did.>>STRANG: You’re absolutely right. There’s so much hypocrisy of where people
who have things in their own past will point their finger at someone else.>>FALWELL: The only difference is they never
got caught.>>STRANG: That’s right. Well, as Christians, we also believe in redemption. We believe that people can change. And in my book, I documented that about ten
years ago, something happened in Donald Trump’s life. He started cleaning up his act. He started watching Christian television. He started thinking about the future. And I believe that he’s a very different kind
of man than some of the bad stereotypes that we’re familiar with.>>FALWELL: I was the only one willing to
go on TV and say that after the Access Hollywood videotape came out. But, Corey, welcome to Liberty. Welcome back to Liberty. You were here with President Trump last year.>>COREY LEWANDOWSKI: Mr. President was here,
and I was here with what is now our President of the United States, and it is such an honor
and privilege to be here. Thank you for having us.>>FALWELL: Has the campus changed a little
bit since you were here?>>LEWANDOWSKI: It’s amazing, the growth from
a year ago. When I was here, you know, the dorm back behind
us wasn’t completed. What you have done at this school and across
the country, it’s just amazing. Thank you.>>FALWELL: These guys get the credit. If it weren’t for the students and their attitude… You and I were talking backstage about how
you were at Harvard recently. Tell us about that.>>LEWANDOWSKI: You know, I grew up in a town
called Lowell, Massachusetts which is not a town of privilege. I’m a blue-collar guy who had the opportunity
to be on an amazing ride with the most extraordinary guy in the world. And Harvard University called me and said,
would you come up and be one of our visiting fellows? And I went up there, and the difference between
what President Falwell has done here and what they did at Harvard is night and day. It’s amazing how you understand what the real
America is like. And when you go to Cambridge, Massachusetts,
they live in a fantasy world. They are so entitled up there. They think that everybody owes them, that
they are the smartest, the greatest, the best. And what happened and what you guys have here
is so different. And let me just give you one example. You know, about five years ago, they wouldn’t
let me slow my truck down in front of Cambridge, Massachusetts, because they hate everything
that Trump stands for. They hate the fact that he’s a populist, that
he wants to make America great again, that he’s not a globalist, that he wants to make
sure that the premises he made on the campaign trail are fulfilled as a president. That’s not what they want up there. They want rhetoric. They want things that make other countries
great again. And it’s so refreshing to come to a university
where people care about their country again, and it’s okay to say “Merry Christmas.” You know, I’ve got to tell you about your
president. I’ve got to tell you, because this is the
honest to God truth, and Jerry knows, the president knows I’m a truth teller. The day the Access Hollywood tape came out
on Donald Trump, I made one phone call- the only one I made. Because CNN, the president of CNN called me,
and he said, “Corey, I need you to come on TV right away.” And I called Jerry right away, and I said,
“Jerry, I need to go on television in the next three minutes. What do you want me to say?” Because every time, as the campaign manager
to Donald Trump, I called the Falwells and the Falwell family, they showed up. They were there as a steadfast supporter of
this president when nobody else. And Jerry and Becky came out, and they helped
campaign. And they saw in Donald Trump, before anybody
else did, what this country needed. And he said to me, and I repeated it verbatim. He said, “My father always said, we’re not
electing a Sunday School teacher. We’re electing the President of the United
States.” And I went on television, and I said that,
and that hit home to so many people. Because what President Falwell just talked
about is the hypocrisy of the left-all these people who make accusations against other
candidates only to find out that their own house is not in order. And we’re finally seeing that some of those
things are coming back to haunt those very same people. And I am so blessed and so privileged to be
here at Liberty University Thank you, President Falwell, for the invitation.>>FALWELL: Thank you, Corey. I did notice that the only time the president
calls me to go on TV is when he’s in real trouble. He says I’m a warrior. I don’t know where he gets that from. But our students are the ones that deserve
the credit for what’s happened here at Liberty. It’s them that makes Liberty a special place,
and we thank you guys for that.>>LEWANDOWSKI: Thank you.>>FALWELL: Randall Wallace who is from Lynchburg. He made the movies Braveheart, Pearl Harbor,
We Were Soldiers, Secretariat. He spoke at Commencement a few years ago,
and he went to his son’s graduation at Duke the next day. And he said he couldn’t believe the difference
in the attitude of the students. He said the same thing. At Duke it was, we’re entitled. We’re the elite. We deserve the best in life. He said at Liberty was all about what can
we do to serve others? And I think that’s what’s going to make you
guys much more successful when you get out of here, and you get in the real world, because
those are the attributes that really lead to true success. And I just have to believe that those guys
at Duke and Harvard are going to be working for you guys one day.>>LEWANDOWSKI: That’s the truth. President Falwell is so right, and he’s so
smart. And I’ve had the privilege of going to many
of the so-called ivy-league schools. I spoke at Stanford. I spoke at Oxford. It’s the same sense of entitlement that Harvard
had. And what you have here are servants’ hearts. What you have here is something so very, very
special that you don’t have a sense of entitlement. And what you will achieve here because of
your education at this institution, and the values that you come out of here with, are
so much superior than all those entitled individuals at those ivy-league who think that the world
owes them. That’s because the leadership that President
Falwell and the rest of the university has here. So, I am so thankful that you are here. And I have an 11-year-old daughter, and she
said to me, she said, “Daddy, I want to go to Harvard someday.” I said, “Baby, you’ll never go to Harvard,
right?” We don’t care about those ivy-league freaks. It’s never going to happen. I said, what you’re going to do, is you’re
going to the greatest school that I’ve ever known which is Liberty University, and I was
here. Someday, my 11-year-old who I love more than
life, is going to apply for a school. I’m going to call President Falwell, and say,
baby, please let her in, because I love her. And she’s going to sit in these very same
seats that you do and get the faith, and the love, and the blessings that you guys have
here every day. Because without that, you cannot be successful. And that’s what you get at this university,
so thank you.>>FALWELL: You know, Corey called me last
January on a Saturday. Or Corey has people, I’m sure who call, at
11 o’clock in the morning said can you be in Iowa at 5 o’clock. So, we jumped on a plane. I said, you’ve got to pay for the plane. The lawyer says Liberty can’t pay for it. So, they paid for the plane. And we were there. We showed up for the rally, full auditorium
like this. And I said, what am I here for? And they said, you’re the moderator. I said, oh, okay. So, it was just Trump and me went out on stage. And I asked the questions. Luckily, I’d been texting Sean Hannity. He gave me some ideas. But we went on the plane that night, and I
think- I never told you this, Corey. I think I talked too much about Liberty when
I introduced him, because the next morning when we were in another city, we’re getting
to do another rally. He said, “Jerry, after this rally, I’m going
to send you out to De Moines to do some interviews. And I said, oh, I must have talked too much
about Liberty. But then we did the second rally, and I toned
it down a little bit. And afterwards, he was like, “Who the hell
needs Trump? Jerry’s the smartest guy I know.” That’s what he said, so excuse my language,
but he said… After that… After that he said, I want you to do the rest
of the rallies now. So, I learned my lesson after that first one. I never told you that story. But anyhow, David, welcome to Liberty. We’ve not gotten to know each other but tell
me a little bit about. You were here a few weeks ago.>>DAVID BOSSIE: I was just here down for
Constitution Week about a month or so ago and enjoyed my time here. I actually came here the first time in 1987
when I was just a kid. I was in my early 20s. I was working for senate majority leader,
Bob Dole when he was running for president. And came here, and that weekend we had Pat
Robertson with your dad, and it was an amazing experience. And I’ve been blessed to be back many times
since. I actually have a junior in high school, so
we’re going to need a little help next year ourselves. And she’s actually a tremendous student, much
better than her dad. And we’re going to be looking to send her
down here. And we’re blessed with four kids. We live right outside of Washington D.C. in
Montgomery County, Maryland. And Maryland usually doesn’t get that big
a round of applause; I’ll be honest with you. It’s a fairly liberal state, but thank you. And so, I had the distinct honor and privilege
of being the Deputy Campaign Manager. I came in with Steve Bannon and Kellyanne
Conway at the end of the campaign in August and ran the general election. And then I was the Deputy Executive Director
for the presidential transition team, so I helped, in my little way, of building the
cabinet and recommending a lot of the folks for jobs and trying to build out the White
House. So, it was a tremendous experience. I was there. I walked into the President’s office in Trump
Tower the night that the Billy Bush tape came out. And I believe the first phone call he made
after he spoke to Governor Pence was to you. He was on the phone with you when I walked
into the office, so I know what a special persona and a special relationship you have
with the president. And it is… You’ve been a rock to him, and it has been
a blessing to him, your relationship with him. So, I just want to say thank you for that,
because you’ve seen him and helped him through a lot of issues over the years. And you could see his courage just this week
with recognizing Jerusalem as the capital. And what he has done… He is the 13th president to say he would recognize
Jerusalem, but he’s the first president to actually do it. And so, it’s been an amazing week of leadership
coming from the White House. So, I’ve had the privilege of knowing the
president a long time, and maybe we’ll get a chance to visit about that. But thank you.>>FALWELL: Robert, you got a question?>>HUNT: Yeah, so Dave, you’ve known, among
the three guests, you’ve known the president longer than anyone. You got to know him in 2010 through Steve
Wynn and kind of being an advisor to him as he approached the 2016 election. I guess my question is, is the message of
nationalism, of America first, was that sincere? What that something…? Because a lot of people say, oh, Trump is
just about making money for himself, about his brand. How sincere is he in that message? Has he been talking about that message from
the beginning? And, obviously, it carried out into success.>>BOSSIE: You know, that’s a great question. And if you look back throughout 20 or 30 years
of videotape that’s out there… Video tape is what we used to use. It’s a… And you watch Oprah Winfrey interviews, and
from 20 years ago, you see this president talking about bad trade deals and what it
takes for America to succeed economically around the world. And you see him talking about these blue-collar
issues. And we called him the blue-collar billionaire,
because he connected with people. And so, this has been something that’s been
true to him for a long time. And you’re right. I got to know President Trump not politically. And that’s one of the things in our book,
Let Trump be Trump, we try to talk about. We try to talk about the man and his incredible
kindness and how generous he is to all those around him. I’m just going to share a personal story. I got a chance to know him. Steve Wynn is a friend of mine, is famous
Las Vegas casino magnate and a successful businessman and another Marylander, I might
add. And he was helping me raise money for Children’s
hospital in Washington DC where my son-not just at that hospital, but at many hospitals-
had a series of four brain surgeries for a brain aneurism and then two open-heart surgeries. And he struggled for life as a baby. And I wanted to be able to help other children
and other parents through raising money for children’s hospitals so that others could
have what my son had, which is the best healthcare in the world. It is through that that Steve Wynn says, Dave,
I’m going to introduce you to Donald Trump who owns the property where you hold that
charity event. He just bought it by coincidence. And so, he introduces me to, then-Mr. Trump,
and I go meet with him. And he is so kind, and in the first meeting,
he gave so much and allowed me to become part of his family, really. And it was an amazing thing that he has befriended
my children over the years, and helped me raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for
Children’s Hospital. HUNT: Why do you think the media doesn’t give
him more credit for that? Why does…>>BOSSIE: The mainstream media wants to build
him into this character, right? This caricature of somebody that they want,
which is somebody who, you know, is kind of a figure that people will dislike. And so, I threw this book, and Corey and I,
through Let Trump Be Trump, really tried to connect people with the man. It’s the behind the scenes stories of the
campaign, so, he does tear our… We say it. In the book, we say it. He tears our faces off on the airplane, and
we were looking with or without a parachute, we would’ve like to have got off the plane
a few times. But we had an amazing experience with this
man, and he is just so kind and generous. And it’s one of the things that we wanted
to- and I talk about my son’s journey in the book.>>HUNT: Corey, talk about the media. I think it’s safe to say he has an antagonistic
relationship with the media. I don’t think it has always been that way. He’s been the master of the media. How much has Trump been able to take this
anti-media sentiment that is shared, I think, by so many of his supporters, and so many
Americans? Has he been able to turn that into an advantage? And can you talk about the Tweets, and what
that was like from January 15 for 18 months as Trump, sort of established himself as the
front-runner?>>LEWANDOWSKI: Well, look. Someday there’ll be a book that comes out
that says The Tweets that were Never Published, okay? It’ll be the greatest book ever written, because
if you think the ones that he’s put out already are good, you should see the ones that we
never put out. It’s amazing what candidate Trump had the
opportunity to do with the fake news. He held them accountable. For the first time in our lifetimes, we had
a fighter who, through his social media activity-Facebook, Twitter, Instagram-has 100+ million followers,
and he can bypass the fake news. And just this week, not just during the campaign,
we fought back ever time and said- hey, there’s a beauty from NPI. You’re a real beauty. Give me a question, right? He did it all the time. But what he did, and what he has done, is
he’s called out the fake news. This week we saw an ABC reporter give a false
story about Donald Trump and General Flynn. And only through Donald Trump’s sheer veracity
of attacking the media did ABC recant that story and suspend that journalist. This week we saw a story that Bob Mahler has
subpoenaed Deutsche Bank records. Six hours later after Donald Trump said that
is not true though his social media activities did they recant the story. But never in our lifetime have we had such
a fighter in the Oval Office. But what the American people saw-and many
of you were here last year when candidate Trump was here-
was a man who wakes up every day and fights for what he believes in. But I have to tell you one story, because
it’s so important. It’s probably one of the greatest things that’s
ever happened in my life. President Trump is elected, and he gets sworn
in on January 20th, and he calls me. And he says, “Corey?” He says, “Corey?” I said, “Yes, sir?” He said, “You never come visit me.” And this is February of this year. And he says, “Would you come see me in the
Oval Office?” I said, “Absolutely.” And I’d never been to the Oval Office. I’m a poor kid from Lowell, Massachusetts. And I walk into the Oval Office, and there’s
the leader of the free world sitting behind the resolute desk. And to his far right, my left is the vice
president of the United States. And I stand at the precipice of the oval,
right outside. And he looks at me, and he sees me. He says, “Get in here.” And I walk into those hollowed grounds, the
Oval Office, and he says, “My man. Come here.” And he stands up, and gives me a hug. And he turns to the Vice President of the
United States, and he says, “Mike, do you know who this is?” And the Vice President says, “Yes, sir. That’s Corey.” And he says, “Mike, do you know who this?” And the Vice President says, “Yes, sir. That’s Corey Lewandowski.” And he says, “Mike, this is the guy who said
you could be the Vice President of the United States.” And I said, “Well, sir. 16 million people said that, but I’m with
you.” And Mike Pence, since I was the chairman of
the Vice President selection committee stood up. And he said, “Corey, will you take my chair?” I said, “Mr. Vice President, I could not do
that.” And he said, “Would you do me a favor?” I said, “I’ll do anything you ask, sir.” He said, “Would you pray with me?” As we sat in the Oval Office, our leaders
asked for God’s help and forgiveness as they lead this great country. And I have never been so humbled of anything
in my life. And Mike Pence and Donald Trump are such great
leaders. And Mike Pence sat there, and we prayed together-
The President of the United States, the vice president of the United States, myself, and
nobody else in the room. And after the vice president finished praying,
because he was going to go represent our country at a speech, Trump hit him on the shoulder
and said, “Get the hell out of here,” which was the greatest. But I’ll tell you, it’s so amazing->>FALWELL: It’s so uncanny, because we experienced
almost the same thing when we went up there in February. And we went in Vice President Pence’s office
first. And what struck me is he has an open Bible
on his desk all the time, and he reads it every day. And he was so warm and welcoming and personable. And we go into the president’s office, and
the president was the same way. He had a red button on his desk in a box,
and I said, “What’s that for right there?” And he said, “Oh, everybody thinks that’s
the nuclear button.” He reached over and pushed it, and a butler
came in and brought him a Dr. Pepper. And so, my daughter->>BOSSIE: That’s the most important button
in the office.>>FALWELL: My daughter Caroline said, Mr.
President, you look like you’ve lost weight. And he said, “Yeah. They won’t feed me anything here. I don’t know if I’ve lost weight or all, but
there’s no scale in the white house, so I don’t know.” And he said he used to snack all day long,
but he said now they give me two- Remember on the plane he ate three cheeseburgers
and a large fry? Yeah, I remember on the plane, president… He was a candidate then. He asked me what I thought of President Obama. Well, it just seems like he’s trying to bring
America to his knees. He stopped, and he said, “Corey!” He yelled back for you. “Jerry thinks Obama wants to bring the country
to its knees!” I don’t know if you remember that, but I’m
getting off the subject. But anyway, at the end of our meeting with
Trump after about 30 minutes, he said the same thing. He said, “Y’all get out of here. Go home.” But that’s the way he is. He makes everybody feel like he’s their best
friend.>>LEWANDOWSKI: But Jerry, the fact that they
prayed in the Oval Office- they asked for God’s blessing and God’s forgiveness-
should never be understated. That’s the side of our leaders that the media
doesn’t want to show. That is the side where they ask for the strength
of God to give them the ability to lead our great country into a path which it has not
been led in for the eight years of the previous administration. The media doesn’t want to talk about that,
but Donald Trump and Mike Pence are men of faith, and they have God in everything they
do. And it is never reported how important that
is to this administration.>>FALWELL: Faith-that’s right. Our faith is really what unites us across
all political lines. You were talking about redemption earlier. I was with Pat Caddell a few weeks ago back
in Mar-a-Lago. He said that Martin Luther King was asked,
back in the sixties, why are you a Southern Baptist? After the Southern Baptists had been for segregation
and haven’t been on your side? He said, I am, and I always will be, because
it’s a redemptive religion. It really is what unites us all, and I think
that’s what… The media tries to divide us. Tries to divide blacks from whites, rich from
poor, you know. Name it, every category-women from men. And it’s something, if we as Christians can
get pas that and love each other, love everybody, then I think we will see our country really
change. And I just truly believe that. But Steve, tell us about your book.>>STRANG: Well, first, let me say Let Trump
be Trump is a great book. I’m about a third of the way through it, and
some of the stories that you’ve heard today are in the book. And so, you’ll want to get it. Their book is really more of lift the hood
and look under, and see what’s going on. Mine is more of an overview. And Hillary Clinton wrote a book called What
happened? And my book answers the question, and that
is that God intervened in this election, in the direction that our country was going. There were millions of Christians praying,
and God answered our prayers in a way we did not expect with a person we didn’t even necessarily
like initially until we got to know him more. And I’m trying to say that God is sovereign. You talk about the mainstream media. They don’t talk about God at all unless it
has something to do with right wing politics. But God is sovereign no matter who’s in the
White House. He lifts people up. The Bible says that, and I believe that God
put him in the White House. In fact, former congressman Bob McEwen said
this week… I was in a meeting, and he got up and said,
“If you cannot see God’s hand on Donald Trump, you are deaf, dumb, and blind.” And I believe that.>>FALWELL: Bob McEwen has spoken here several
times. You’re talking about Bob McEwen the former
congressman? Yeah, he’s one of our favorite speakers here. But Robert?>>HURT: I guess this is for both of you all,
Corey and Dave. It’s been said that “Trumpism” is bigger than
Trump. And I wonder what you think about that. This president will be up for reelection in
2020, and you see what is happening to him in the approval rating and those sorts of
things. It remains to be seen what happens between
now and then. But my question is, is after he’s gone-
whether he runs again and serves out a second term or not-
does what his message, does it go beyond him? It is bigger than he is?>>BOSSIE: I’m going to go quickly, and then
maybe you can. Donald Trump was elected as a change agent,
and I think that’s going to continue to be that movement, the Trump movement, is that
Washington D.C. has been broken for a long time, and it doesn’t work for the American
people. And I think we can all see it. No matter what age you are, you can be just
as frustrated as anybody else that Washington D.C. is not working for us. And Donald Trump told the American people
during the campaign that I am a change agent, and I’m going to go and fix the broken status-quo. And I am going to kick in a couple of doors,
and I’m going to flip over a couple desks. And I’m going to make the establishment uncomfortable. And we can see that that’s the pushback that
he gets around Washington D.C. for the last ten months. They’re a little bit afraid of him and what
he will do. And so, I believe this tax reform package,
which just passed the senate last week, is really the first big legislative victory of
the president’s, but it’s kind of the straw that might break the camel’s back. That maybe with one big victory, the president
is going to be able to succeed at very big ways over time. And I think that the “Trumpism” continues
well after President Trump is gone.>>LEWANDOWSKI: Look, I talk about this, we
talk about this a lot in the book, right? Let Trump be Trump. What he did during that election was unparalleled. The way that he saw the pulse of the American
people, the way that he tapped into that, not just here at Convocation, which he came
to, but across the country. People would turn out in droves, and in the
book, we talk about how the mainstream media never gave him the credit. And I heard this all the time as the campaign
manager. People would wait in line in eight hours in
a blizzard to get into a Donald Trump rally in Tyngsborough, Massachusetts. Those people aren’t going to show up on the
polls. These people aren’t real. Donald Trump isn’t going to be successful. Jeb Bush is a little rusty, because he hadn’t
run for office in eight years. Well, Donald Trump hadn’t run for office in
70 years. He had never been part of the system. And what we talk about in the book is how
he completely disemboweled the Republican establishment, how he destroyed all the geniuses
by the sheer veracity of his schedule- six, seven, eight stops a day, four time zones. And what that did, is it ignited people who
had not been involved in politics for 30 years. You go to Michigan. You go to Pennsylvania. You go to Wisconsin-places where Republicans
don’t win anymore. And you know what they said? We’re tired of the lies in Washington. And what we write in the book is exactly what
Dave said. Washington has been so broken that Donald
Trump saw it and said I will fix it. And for the first time in my lifetime, and
yours as well, we have a business man in the Oval Office who is not stymied by 30 years
of Washington D.C. dogma of the way it’s always been done. And one quick story is we have this great
trading partner. It’s called Taiwan. Maybe you’ve heard about it, right? And the president of Taiwan, she calls up
the White House. She calls Donald Trump in Trump tower right
after he’s elected. And he’s sitting at his beautiful desk on
the 26th floor. And president Falwell knows it, and I’ve been
there many, many times. And the woman from the front desk says, “I’ve
got the President of Taiwan on line one!” And 19 other guys from Foggy Bottom, the state
department would say, sir, we do not recognize Taiwan. You cannot take that phone call. He said, “Excuse me?” It’s the President of Taiwan. What do they want?” “Sir, she’d like to congratulate you on your
election win. Sir, please do not take that phone call. We cannot have you take that call with Taiwan. It will destroy our relationship with China.” He goes, “Hello!”
Bing! Because he doesn’t care, right? Because we’re putting America first now, and
he’s not holding to those special interests in Washington. That’s what we write about. He is the blue-collar millionaire. He’s the man who funded his own campaign. And he doesn’t care the way it used to be
done, because he wants to do what’s right for America. And that’s what the book’s all about.>>FALWELL: And another example of that,
he was meeting with a group of evangelicals early last year, maybe late 2015. And they said, we like you Mr. President,
but we can’t support you, because of the Johnson Amendment. We’re not allowed because of the IRS. We all head tax exempt organizations. We can’t endorse you. He said, “What are you talking about?” And they explained to him the Johnson Amendment
that I guess Lyndon Johnson added to another bill in the 50s. And it basically took away the free speech
rights from people like me and pastors. And he said, well, I’m going to get rid of
that. And sure enough, he kept his promise. And it’s another big thing he did for evangelicals
is he gave pastors and heads of non-profit organizations like this one the right to speak
out, to have political free speech. You might have something to comment about
that.>>STRANG: You know, this is significant,
because I’ve never even heard of a president talking about the Johnson Amendment, but it’s
very… You’re in the non-profit world. You know about it. And isn’t it interesting how fast Donald Trump
got it. You didn’t have to draw him a picture. He figured it out real quick and said it’s
wrong. And he fixed it with executive actions, but
he also says he’s going to get legislation through-
and I believe he will- to fix it permanently. And this is just an example of the leadership
that he is giving this country which just confounds everybody. But it gets back to what I’ve said in my book
is that God had a plan, and He raised him up for such a time as this. And he’s continuing to bless him.>>FALWELL: The Johnson Amendment was one
of the first things he talked about when he came here last time. Did you want to add something about that?>>LEWANDOWSKI: And “Two” Corinthians. Other than “Two” Corinthians.>>FALWELL: Actually, a lot of people say
it though.>>BOSSIE: And I don’t know if John Luke Robertson’s
here, but his family influenced the president’s thinking on the Johnson Amendment a lot. Phil Roberson, his grandfather, spend a lot
of time in his ear about it. And I was there a lot when they were talking
about it. It was always a wonderful thing to have that
family around him.>>FALWELL: And back to something you said,
Corey, about career politicians. I think the American people have figured those
guys out, and they don’t want them anymore. But the question was whether the Republican
party is going to be smart and stop running them against Democrats. In Virginia, they ran one against a Democrat,
and he lost. And I think it’s going to keep happening over
and over. We need some more non-traditional candidates. How are we going to recruit people from the
private sector? Steward Robert Hurt did. Come and serve for six years, then get out
of there.>>BOSSIE: Well, I can tell you, first of
all, that’s a great idea, Robert. Get you off this campus maybe again one day. But look, I actually got my start in politics
on a college campus in 1984- which makes me really old, I know. But I was there for Ronald Reagan’s reelection
campaign at the University of Maryland. And it was a tremendous, tremendous thing
to cut my teeth and get interested in the conservative movement. And I hope that each of you will consider
getting involved in your communities, getting involved in… It doesn’t have to be, you know, in politics. But figure people out. Think about it. Ask questions. That’s the most important thing you can do
as young folks. And be active and engaged. And so, look, you know… I’m just going to wrap up. You know, Corey and I talk about in our book,
the ferocity of the campaign and the schedule, but it was run by…. Well, it was six or ten of us that were the
core group. And the president was 70 or 71 when he was
running, and he drove us into the ground. His physical stamina and his motor ran at
an unbelievable speed. And it was fed by fast-food. I don’t know if any of you have seen the media
explosion over his diet of McDonalds. We had four food groups on the plane, basically:
McDonalds, Kentucky Fried Chicken, Pizza, and Diet Coke. That basically was the fuel for the campaign. And we thought, you know, look. We have a lot of really funny stuff in the
book about whether it’s about us pressing the president’s pants on the plane while he’s
still wearing them. Which, you had to be very careful. Or our diets, or how we would fill five or
six stadiums a day-10, 15, 20,000 people a day, three different time zones across the
country day in and day out. And Hillary Clinton was having trouble filling
a High School cafeteria. And that was when we knew, we knew we had
the finger on the pulse of the American people and what the election might hold when we saw
those types of things.>>FALWELL: That’s great advice, David. All you should take note. Get your careers established. Do something outside politics, and then when
you’re ready, go in and serve for just a short time and go back to what you’re doing. Because you’ll have a better perspective for
what’s needed for the country than anybody who spends their whole life in politics.>>LEWANDOWSKI: President Falwell, you’re
so right. Look, career politicians have destroyed our
country. It was never meant to be a lifestyle. You know, we just saw, you know, Congressman
Conyers resign in disgrace. He was elected in 1962 or something, right?>>BOSSIE: 1965>>LEWANDOWSKI: I mean, this is insane. This is not what it’s supposed to be. Go out. Have a productive career. Create jobs. Do something of value. Don’t go to Washington and say this is the
best job I’ve ever had, because that’s what happens. And they take these guys out of Washington
in pine boxes, because they leave when they’re 97-years-old if they’re lucky, right? All they want to do is be career politicians
and they’ve done nothing. And what the Donald Trump revolution has showed
us is that when you create jobs, and you create value, and you create a business, and you
employ people, the American people respect that, and that what’s they want in Washington. So, go out and do something different than
spend your life in politics.>>BOSSIE: And I just… That’s exactly right, and one of my colleagues
up in Washington who is a true hero of the conservative movement and a 25-year friend
of mine is Amy Paul. And I don’t know if Maggie is in the audience. She’s a sophomore here. Your mom is one of the greatest leaders of
the conservative movement and a tremendous patriot. And I don’t know if you’re here, but I’d love
to say hi to you afterwards if possible.>>FALWELL: Yeah, okay. Well also, Hannah Langford’s a student here,
and her dad Senator James Langford was in the ministry. And he ran for senator, won in Oklahoma. My guess is he probably will go back to what
he was doing before. But that’s what we need is more of that. But I just realized we’re completely out of
time, and I promised them I’d get them out early. I was having too much fun, sorry. But we’ve got both of the books-Steve’s, and
Dave’s, and Corey’s. We’re going to give a special deal for students,
five bucks a piece. No, six bucks a piece or two for 10 bucks. I came up with that idea before Convo. But anyhow, the books are great, and we hope
you…>>STRANG: We’re going to be here to sign
them I hope. We’re here to sign them for you.>>FALWELL: They’re signing on both sides,
right? Or maybe only over there. Anyhow, God bless. You’re dismissed. Thank you.>>ALL: Thank you!

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