Bataille’s anti-authoritarianism Vs. liberalism

Bataille’s anti-authoritarianism Vs. liberalism


whereas i used to think of my particular
psychological conundrum as an issue relating to authoritarianism i can now
see that it is a rather more specific although although I do think that in
many ways my experience of the world is very similar to that of georges bataille
at least in the map that he traces out because he talks about things in a
manner that i can understand in a way that makes psychological good sense to
me and I by the way also realized that Bataille does not seem to speak to
people that are in a liberal society so well I think that fundamentally they… well, it’s
my opinion of course but they misunderstand him it’s not to do with
what they think it is to do with they seem to re-interpret him within an
existing Christian paradigm not understanding the radical nature of his
critique and his principles that to these principles and the critique were
intended to overthrow the Christian paradigm that by using it by working
within it by operating within what exists and then pushing it out until the
boundaries become larger larger and eventually disappear uh well that’s that that we should leave
his mind to invitation i am not want to go in for a very detailed academic
analysis just because most of the time uh it’s speaking at cross-purposes it’s
really down to watch inside your psyche what’s inside your own head and like I
said it does seem to be a big wall of consciousness between those brought up
within authoritarianism and liberal society and and just too i
conclude on my point here the the way for example that liberal society
interprets the ties injunction to embrace guilt is very different it seems from the way that somebody in
an authoritarian society would probably interpreted because in liberal society
they say well let’s just go around feel guilty feel small blame myself was
another people whereas the injunction with authoritarian ism to feel guilt is
much more i understand the heavy nature of existence take on the responsibility
for it don’t shirk it and understand that all basically you are in a
relationship with the powerful forces that will make you feel something and
what they will make you feel is guilt so if you can feel that rather than not
feel it then you’re on your way to emerge the liberation so the point is not that oh you feel
guilty and you make other people feel shamefaced and guilty that was nice I think be the liberal misunderstanding it’s more like you understand your
relation ality to power and you understand what it makes you feel and
then you give yourself permission to feel it and not deny it and that you
understand politics you understand the relationship better and eventually you
feel more of your emotion you understand more of your emotion and you overcome
the guilty feeling so are very very different interpretations are very very
different interpretation of the emotion depending on how you were brought up and I had my project has been as I i I’m
not getting back to a certain type of authoritarian upbringing but it’s not as
I have previously thought maybe a very general blanket type and maybe your
secretary anism itself has to be on understood in name no announced way and
I i had made response recently to somebody who commented on one of my
videos now I must act that son in relation to correct emotional
interpretation it really does help to have people of a
similar cultural and historical background in marketing or commenting
because they can actually help you to shed light yourself whereas if it’s somebody have a very
very different cultural background they often maybe always but very often will
have the effect of making you misunderstand your emotions more
misunderstanding your actual situation more and giving it a false
interpretation so these of late have been very happy that I’ve had some
people of about my generation brought up in the colonial societies who can
understand what I’m more or less getting it and consider eyes and that has the
effect of helping me shed light on something that otherwise it’s very
difficult to do because one is basically outside of many cultural context that
could help you make sense of things that are emotional this video is about the emotional sense
of things but it’s also about the very difficult project that i had embarked on
which as I’ve mentioned before I understood instinctively but I really
couldn’t articulate and it takes a longer time to articulate it than it
does to perform it or two do what feels necessary to do and the
contradiction that I had to face when i was doing what it felt necessary to do I
now believe really came back in large part of my father’s character structure
and I i think it’s important to try to name it ought to give it some sense of
solidity know that is in itself dangerous because of course you’re
borrowing terms from a totally different cultural context and sometimes there’s
really don’t fit and then people misunderstand you more but if I may I
would say that my father’s tendency was very “Borderline” (BPD) he had a state of
being extremely rageful in an infantile manner extremely out of
control in such a manner and I think he felt that a new that too and as a result
of that he embraced a very dogmatic Christianity that was also very infantile
— but it was a stopper, it was a brake on his painful out-of-control emotionalism
so he had two layers one this is out control stuff very painful i’m sure
emotional out-of-control stuff and the other layer was the dogmatic brake, the
stopper, this is how we avoid the pain of far being emotionally or talking about
him not me being emotionally out of control by putting on the stopper
stoppers we don’t feel emotion we embraced Christianity in a very rigid
very limited dogmatic and infantile since the reason i could not feel
emotion was because I was treated by my father is my emotions were
extreme provocations… dangerous to him because his own emotions were dangerous
to him so he thought mine would be as well that in any case our he had to stop
to my emotional feeling or experiencing emotion and he did that with don’t
matter Christianity so this was what I was you know what gave me chronic
fatigue syndrome made me very physically unwell for much of my twenties because i
was so emotionally repressed and what was beneath the the level of this rigid
in position of self-control that my father taught me to have was the fear of
his here is not line is borderline personality suddenly descending on me
with extreme infantile rage and I felt it intrinsically I felt that it–that if I
questioned Christianity or didn’t comply with it i would invoke this (similar) borderline
rage from the authorities…. from those above me I was not so much afraid of my
emotion i just couldn’t experience it but what I was afraid of was provoking
the authorities by on experiencing my own emotion so you can see i guess a
little bit of how that works as a mechanism and that’s why it was very
very hard for me for a long time (because) every time I felt something, I felt guilty that
I felt something and I felt the authorities would tear me apart and
destroy me and oftentimes they kind of did oftentimes they did, so not to feeling
emotion was my way from stopping the authorities from attacking me and kind
of warning them up sometimes in the almost superstitious manner I guess although sometimes it was a real
thing it’s a it would happen it had happened according to that pattern as I
was maturing and growing up and that’s the link to Bataille for me is like to
be able to transgress means to express the emotions that you’ve been forbidden
from experiencing to go against the Heavenly Father to go against the
Christian dogma and to risk the wrath of that deity or indeed of one’s own father
by experiencing emotion and therefore pushing out the boundaries of what one
can or cannot experience when I speak of Bataille it seems to me that the liberal
society really can’t understand it’s not something that is part of their
emotional makeup or their psychology and as I say the misinterpretations do seem
to abound about transgression (that it is) about being naughty or a teenage rebellion or something that it simply
isn’t it’s much more serious than that it’s … it’s about personal liberation
and it’s about self understanding and it’s about self-respect but the liberal
society will turn it into something else and make it out to be something really
entirely different and that’s another aspect that I had to contend with as I
was writing my PhD and trying to understand my own project, since I
had to kind of really ward off these misinterpretations of the project all
the time it was quite confusing to me and very very difficult when one is
trying just to create enough from leeway enough wiggle room to allow one’s
emotions to have expression of some sort and i should add to that liberal society
was very hostile to me right from the start because … the good
Christians of slightly left and leftist liberalism would basically view my emotions
as being extremely dangerous because they were “fascism” or they were you know
from a right-wing culture and they were you know they had to be excommunicated
or else “we’re all gonna die” no this wasn’t helpful to me that made
me feel really like a very very bad person like a very stigmatized person so
these are some interesting differences between people of my background and
people of the contemporary Western world who will embrace liberalism

4 thoughts on “Bataille’s anti-authoritarianism Vs. liberalism

  1. I feel like I went through a similar thought/emotional process with Foucault. In the United States, it's almost as if his work was used to aid and abet neoliberalism by mining "identity politics" for "diverse faces" with which to sell American corporate hegemony– whereas in his own country, his work was understood to be absolutely revolutionary; i.e., a study of the use and abuse of power, with an eye toward dismantling both the literal and cultural structures through which authorities and authoritarian societies wield their abuses.

    Your perspective on your own life within the macrocosm and microcosm of authoritarian abuse, is amazingly wise. That you understand where, when and how those abuses effected and affected your mind and health, is a clarity few people achieve– you have clearly done quite a bit of hard work, both intellectually and emotionally. Kudos to you for your indefatigable spirit, and your phenomenal inner strength!

  2. I felt that same emotional repression brought on by the Vatican I Catholic Church upbringing I had with corporal punishment which mirrored the same repression in the home. Then quite suddenly, my mother left the church and joined the Evangelical Born Again Christians. They rolled in the isles and screamed and cried. They laid hands on one another and felt they were saved. It was pure insanity to experience this abrupt shift that I was forced to embrace as a child. It was like going from nothing you feel is good or okay to go ahead and feel it and cry and scream and chant and show it all in front of everyone, but you're still dirty and evil.

  3. You talk about your father borderline personality and the damage that this caused you, how about your mother was she scared/enabler or protector? It seem we are living now the times where the agenda is to pull down all known religions toward a more let say Eastern religions and finally i assume no religion but passing from religions and deities to the making the State/Government/Power the only "deity".

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