America’s political mess: What experts say is next

America’s political mess: What experts say is next


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>>Good morning and what on>>Good morning and what on
earth is happening in this earth is happening in this
country concerning our country concerning our
politics, it is difficult to politics, it is difficult to
remember a time we’ve been remember a time we’ve been
more divided the Pew research more divided the Pew research
center’s recent report called center’s recent report called
media Porter is Asian and the media Porter is Asian and the
2020 election, a nation divided 2020 election, a nation divided
provided a glimpse of how provided a glimpse of how
divided we are by the way we do divided we are by the way we do
our news when asked about their our news when asked about their
trust in the New York Times, trust in the New York Times,
66% of Democrats said they 66% of Democrats said they
trusted that times while only trusted that times while only
10% of Republicans said they 10% of Republicans said they
did but ask about Fox News 75% did but ask about Fox News 75%
of Republicans said they of Republicans said they
trusted him as a source, trusted him as a source,
77% of Democrats say they 77% of Democrats say they
distrust Fox for their distrust Fox for their
political views. Doctor Mark political views. Doctor Mark
Jones has spent his Jones has spent his
professional life studying professional life studying
politics he the fellow in politics he the fellow in
political science at the Baker political science at the Baker
Institute and professor of Institute and professor of
political science at Rice political science at Rice
University doctor Brandon University doctor Brandon
rottinghaus a political science rottinghaus a political science
professor at the University of professor at the University of
Houston who specializes in the Houston who specializes in the
presidency, which means you’ve presidency, which means you’ve
got a lot going got a lot going
too much. Any of you either see too much. Any of you either see
the division like this and the division like this and
politics in the time you’ve politics in the time you’ve
been in this business. been in this business.
>>I know I think we’re at a>>I know I think we’re at a
high of the highest level high of the highest level
polarization that we’ve seen in polarization that we’ve seen in
the country and I the country and I
think that was already were think that was already were
already on that path and then already on that path and then
with Donald Trump in the White with Donald Trump in the White
House has just been exacerbated House has just been exacerbated
you I think that it’s you I think that it’s
as bad. as bad.
>>As we’ve seen in our>>As we’ve seen in our
lifetime certainly the 60’s we lifetime certainly the 60’s we
have this high point in the have this high point in the
1860’s there was another high 1860’s there was another high
point so we haven’t seen this point so we haven’t seen this
kind of this whole pie politics kind of this whole pie politics
for a very long time when I for a very long time when I
think the president has always think the president has always
embraced the notion that he’s embraced the notion that he’s
a victim that’s what he’s done a victim that’s what he’s done
to me that work when he was to me that work when he was
running he’s done that And running he’s done that And
when he’s been doing that it’s when he’s been doing that it’s
kind of change the way that we kind of change the way that we
look at how things are both look at how things are both
side the political aisle saying side the political aisle saying
things to their colored things to their colored
I would we go from here I would we go from here
politically logistically is politically logistically is
there a way to be able to to do there a way to be able to to do
something different to make something different to make
a progress. a progress.
>>Well the difficulty is is>>Well the difficulty is is
that when politicians are that when politicians are
successful following a route successful following a route
they tend to they tend to
repeat it. And right now the repeat it. And right now the
successful route seems to be successful route seems to be
polarizing with candidates on polarizing with candidates on
the right that is the right that is
Donald Trump and not say more Donald Trump and not say more
moderate people like Jeb Bush moderate people like Jeb Bush
before and Bernie Sanders and before and Bernie Sanders and
even Michael Bloomberg to a even Michael Bloomberg to a
lesser extent. Following a lesser extent. Following a
polarizing agenda. That’s how polarizing agenda. That’s how
you have success if your you have success if your
moderate you can get beaten up moderate you can get beaten up
by both your own party as well by both your own party as well
as the other party makes it as the other party makes it
difficult to move one way or difficult to move one way or
another if you’re in politics, another if you’re in politics,
how do you decide where you’re how do you decide where you’re
going to move it doesn’t even going to move it doesn’t even
the most. the most.
>>Moderate members of both>>Moderate members of both
parties are being pushed to the parties are being pushed to the
polls because that’s where the polls because that’s where the
voters are released. They think voters are released. They think
that they are so that’s that they are so that’s
creating this exacerbated creating this exacerbated
polarization and we don’t talk polarization and we don’t talk
to each other anymore people to each other anymore people
don’t have conversations about don’t have conversations about
what their lives and about the what their lives and about the
things that they value as a things that they value as a
result, you don’t have the result, you don’t have the
ability to find that common ability to find that common
ground like ground like
Mark says the moderates are Mark says the moderates are
being drummed out of the party being drummed out of the party
so as a result, there’s no one so as a result, there’s no one
to talk to because you feel to talk to because you feel
like if I even hint that I’m like if I even hint that I’m
going to side with the other going to side with the other
part then it’s going to be a part then it’s going to be a
problem right in a great problem right in a great
example of that is congressman example of that is congressman
will Hurd who is the most will Hurd who is the most
moderate Republican member of moderate Republican member of
Congress from the Congress from the
Texas delegation isn’t running Texas delegation isn’t running
for office and the most for office and the most
moderate Democrat who require moderate Democrat who require
is being heavily challenge by a is being heavily challenge by a
far Democrat that is the far Democrat that is the
moderate again even from within moderate again even from within
their own party. their own party.
>>And now we look at what’s>>And now we look at what’s
going going
on with the politics in the on with the politics in the
Democrats because they’re Democrats because they’re
trying to run and that’s really trying to run and that’s really
a battle for the soul of the a battle for the soul of the
Democratic Party as well as a Democratic Party as well as a
moderate and far leaning left moderate and far leaning left
progressives which the progressives which the
Republicans call socially. Republicans call socially.
It always seems to work for It always seems to work for
them, it’s like a catch phrase them, it’s like a catch phrase
that’s a challenge as well is that’s a challenge as well is
it not for the Democrats to it not for the Democrats to
define how they’re going to be define how they’re going to be
perceived going into the 2020 perceived going into the 2020
elections, right we have really elections, right we have really
stark choices you have Bernie stark choices you have Bernie
Sanders and to a lesser extent, Sanders and to a lesser extent,
Elizabeth Warren on Elizabeth Warren on
one side. You have Mike one side. You have Mike
Bloomberg who’s many Democrats Bloomberg who’s many Democrats
don’t even use don’t even use
a dead the kratt along with Joe a dead the kratt along with Joe
Biden on the other with Pete Biden on the other with Pete
buttigieg sort of hanging out buttigieg sort of hanging out
in the middle but those are 2 in the middle but those are 2
very stark options that the 2 very stark options that the 2
parties had that the Democratic Party has. Party has.
>>And I think a lot of>>And I think a lot of
Democrats even are you who are Democrats even are you who are
supporting Bloomberg and Biden supporting Bloomberg and Biden
are doing it because they agree are doing it because they agree
with the with the
logically they just want Trump logically they just want Trump
out of the off the Oval Office out of the off the Oval Office
and I think he gives them the and I think he gives them the
best option best option
is DEC that key that’s what’s is DEC that key that’s what’s
going on the Democrats are just going on the Democrats are just
driven by hey we driven by hey we
just want. just want.
>>This guy out I think that’s>>This guy out I think that’s
right and that’s what the polls right and that’s what the polls
say that all Democrats want a say that all Democrats want a
Democrat who can beat Donald Democrat who can beat Donald
Trump if they don’t agree on Trump if they don’t agree on
what that is right they all what that is right they all
want the nation in Texas to want the nation in Texas to
turn blue, but they don’t know turn blue, but they don’t know
what shade so that’s the what shade so that’s the
debate, the identity crisis the debate, the identity crisis the
Democratic Party is what are we Democratic Party is what are we
going to look like and we’ve going to look like and we’ve
seen for serve hints of that in seen for serve hints of that in
2018 the Democratic primaries 2018 the Democratic primaries
and like marks and we’re seeing and like marks and we’re seeing
it in primaries now where the it in primaries now where the
parties trying to battle for parties trying to battle for
its own soul and if they can’t its own soul and if they can’t
figure it out then the winner figure it out then the winner
will be Donald Trump because will be Donald Trump because
he’s the only one who can step he’s the only one who can step
back and say well look at this back and say well look at this
chaos right on the one who can chaos right on the one who can
give you a clear vision even give you a clear vision even
though sometimes though sometimes
it’s flawed. it’s flawed.
>>For what to do I’ve always>>For what to do I’ve always
said it’s it’s it’s really said it’s it’s it’s really
important for us to discuss our important for us to discuss our
differences but it’s important differences but it’s important
for us to discuss those for us to discuss those
differences based upon truth. differences based upon truth.
Yes my post to spend which is Yes my post to spend which is
happening happening
here so I’ve got here so I’ve got
report up a little fact which report up a little fact which
is from the Poynter Institute is from the Poynter Institute
is a non-partisan source for is a non-partisan source for
truth and this is something truth and this is something
they did of 766 recent comments they did of 766 recent comments
made by President Trump they made by President Trump they
determine that for percent were determine that for percent were
true 10% true 10%
mostly true. 14% have true 21% mostly true. 14% have true 21%
mostly farce 34% false and mostly farce 34% false and
14% pants on fire how to put 14% pants on fire how to put
this on the Web I now want all this on the Web I now want all
of you to go to the website for of you to go to the website for
yourselves. So you can see and yourselves. So you can see and
analyze what’s going on say a analyze what’s going on say a
very in-depth and how they very in-depth and how they
analyze these things and I analyze these things and I
really would not recommend it really would not recommend it
to you if I didn’t think it was to you if I didn’t think it was
a nonpartisan Street on the a nonpartisan Street on the
middle kind of thing but talk middle kind of thing but talk
about the isn’t that one of the about the isn’t that one of the
issues as well because all issues as well because all
these things that are coming these things that are coming
out of the bully pulpit out of the bully pulpit
sometimes are spread out just sometimes are spread out just
so wrong for the difficult for so wrong for the difficult for
people to figure out what people to figure out what
stance they want to try and stance they want to try and
there’s so much noise. there’s so much noise.
President Trump creates the President Trump creates the
most of it as as the the most of it as as the the
Poynter Institute political Poynter Institute political
back showed that 2 thirds of back showed that 2 thirds of
the statements are false to the statements are false to
some degree. some degree.
>>Democrats do it as well but>>Democrats do it as well but
to a much lesser to a much lesser
stand but then you get that stand but then you get that
this thing that’s a false this thing that’s a false
equivalency that is one equivalency that is one
Democratic false equates 10 Democratic false equates 10
Trump also to many voters in Trump also to many voters in
the end just tune to the other the end just tune to the other
side out you based on motivated side out you based on motivated
reasoning where they tend to reasoning where they tend to
believe their side and believe their side and
disbelief the disbelief the
other side. Do you sense that other side. Do you sense that
based upon the impeachment based upon the impeachment
process that this president is process that this president is
really Boldin I mean we’ve been saying that the differences saying that the differences
between the way President between the way President
Clinton responded his Clinton responded his
impeachment in this that impeachment in this that
there’s just no there’s just no
didn’t know. didn’t know.
>>There’s no similarity what’s>>There’s no similarity what’s
going to happen going forward going to happen going forward
based on what we’ve seen over based on what we’ve seen over
the last week and a the last week and a
half I. half I.
>>Call it. The angry Rose>>Call it. The angry Rose
Garden strategy and he’s Garden strategy and he’s
pursuing kind of unilateral pursuing kind of unilateral
tactics, he’s retreating to the tactics, he’s retreating to the
Oval Office he’s exercising Oval Office he’s exercising
commander-in-chief commander-in-chief
responsibilities. These are all responsibilities. These are all
things incoming presidents too things incoming presidents too
successful and I think just now successful and I think just now
the president is getting to the the president is getting to the
point where he can use these point where he can use these
tools is kind of political plus tools is kind of political plus
instead of a political minus instead of a political minus
because now he’s in Boulder because now he’s in Boulder
like you say, and he can do on like you say, and he can do on
his own party and he can his own party and he can
frankly no right with the other party so he’s effectively stuck party so he’s effectively stuck
in middle this whole process in middle this whole process
now as we look at the National now as we look at the National
a picture. How do you think a picture. How do you think
this kind of impact this kind of impact
what’s going on locally. what’s going on locally.
I mean did not clearly the I mean did not clearly the
way them Kratz are emboldened way them Kratz are emboldened
they typically want to get out they typically want to get out
and vote. No matter what the and vote. No matter what the
least against this president least against this president
has in effect local elections has in effect local elections
will see high turnout in the will see high turnout in the
Democratic primary I think the Democratic primary I think the
the key point for November, the key point for November,
though is who is the Democratic though is who is the Democratic
standard-bearer. standard-bearer.
>>It’s somebody that’s to the>>It’s somebody that’s to the
left say Bernie Sanders are left say Bernie Sanders are
made Elizabeth Warren that’s made Elizabeth Warren that’s
going make it really tough for going make it really tough for
Texas Democrats to achieve the Texas Democrats to achieve the
goal of flipping the Texas goal of flipping the Texas
House and taking the majority House and taking the majority
there and picking up more us there and picking up more us
House seats if on the other House seats if on the other
hand it’s a less polarizing hand it’s a less polarizing
figure like Michael Bloomberg figure like Michael Bloomberg
and and
Joe Biden. Joe Biden.
>>In Texas Republicans could>>In Texas Republicans could
really see the risk of losing really see the risk of losing
control the Texas House and control the Texas House and
losing control of redistricting losing control of redistricting
in 2021, read the last 30 in 2021, read the last 30
seconds seconds
for you. for you.
>>Yeah, I think this is going>>Yeah, I think this is going
to be a pivotal election. to be a pivotal election.
I mean this is a state that’s I mean this is a state that’s
in transition and the Democrats in transition and the Democrats
would very much like to find would very much like to find
the right rhythm here, but they the right rhythm here, but they
haven’t and frankly for 20 haven’t and frankly for 20
years they have been so they’re years they have been so they’re
looking to be able to make some looking to be able to make some
moves and I think that the moves and I think that the
candidate that’s going to be candidate that’s going to be
the the the candidate that’s the the the candidate that’s
going to be able to unseat them going to be able to unseat them
both, but the Republicans the both, but the Republicans the
top and bottom top and bottom
the ticket. It’s going to be a the ticket. It’s going to be a
more moderate version that’s more moderate version that’s
the way typically the Texas the way typically the Texas
Democrats have been successful Democrats have been successful
talking about issues to not talking about issues to not
talking about the sort of talking about the sort of
Donald Trump and in all that Donald Trump and in all that
chaos, there’s a way to get chaos, there’s a way to get
that to people and that’s the that to people and that’s the
key to winning lot of issues

One thought on “America’s political mess: What experts say is next

  1. What's next? More ushering in of totalitarian communist police state, theft, enslavement and extermination of course. The management of that masonic pyramid matrix shown on back of $1 worship Lucifer. So, expect hell.

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